The only comparison is that the people who dismissed Till and Ford's equality are entitled white men.
What? This makes zero sense to me.
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The age of entitled white men is going to end. They (or we since
you could, I suppose, consider me an entitled white man but, damn, how I
hate those all-encompassing labels) are in the minority on this small
planet- both males and whites.
But while were at it, if we are going to admonish entitled white men we might well admonish entitled Americans, as even the poorest of us live like royalty compared to a poor peasant in Myanmar. Certainly those of us who can afford our electronic devices and high priced tickets to mega rock star concerts and drive our shiny beast vehicles. Who among us here is not entitled?
Sorry, not meaning to cause offense, but I HATE labels!
If Kavanaugh is proven guilty, fuck him! But don't pigeon hole all us white guys. We aren't all motherfuckers and rapists.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
The age of entitled white men is going to end. They (or we since
you could, I suppose, consider me an entitled white man but, damn, how I
hate those all-encompassing labels) are in the minority on this small
planet- both males and whites.
But while were at it, if we are going to admonish entitled white men we might well admonish entitled Americans, as even the poorest of us live like royalty compared to a poor peasant in Myanmar. Certainly those of us who can afford our electronic devices and high priced tickets to mega rock star concerts and drive our shiny beast vehicles. Who among us here is not entitled?
Sorry, not meaning to cause offense, but I HATE labels!
If Kavanaugh is proven guilty, fuck him! But don't pigeon hole all us white guys. We aren't all motherfuckers and rapists.
Any father rapists amongst us? Thanksgiving is coming up.
The age of entitled white men is going to end. They (or we since
you could, I suppose, consider me an entitled white man but, damn, how I
hate those all-encompassing labels) are in the minority on this small
planet- both males and whites.
But while were at it, if we are going to admonish entitled white men we might well admonish entitled Americans, as even the poorest of us live like royalty compared to a poor peasant in Myanmar. Certainly those of us who can afford our electronic devices and high priced tickets to mega rock star concerts and drive our shiny beast vehicles. Who among us here is not entitled?
Sorry, not meaning to cause offense, but I HATE labels!
If Kavanaugh is proven guilty, fuck him! But don't pigeon hole all us white guys. We aren't all motherfuckers and rapists.
Agree with this. "White" should not be an insult or pejorative term.
The age of entitled white men is going to end. They (or we since
you could, I suppose, consider me an entitled white man but, damn, how I
hate those all-encompassing labels) are in the minority on this small
planet- both males and whites.
But while were at it, if we are going to admonish entitled white men we might well admonish entitled Americans, as even the poorest of us live like royalty compared to a poor peasant in Myanmar. Certainly those of us who can afford our electronic devices and high priced tickets to mega rock star concerts and drive our shiny beast vehicles. Who among us here is not entitled?
Sorry, not meaning to cause offense, but I HATE labels!
If Kavanaugh is proven guilty, fuck him! But don't pigeon hole all us white guys. We aren't all motherfuckers and rapists.
Agree with this. "White" should not be an insult or pejorative term.
Totally agree with you bud but on these forums it is almost looked down upon if you are white and successful.
The only comparison is that the people who dismissed Till and Ford's equality are entitled white men.
What? This makes zero sense to me.
Till was a black boy in a land ruled by the KKK. His word didn't matter because he was not considered an equal, not worthy of listening to and certainly not of believing. Ford alleges that she was sexually assaulted by a Prep School boy in the 1980's who is now a federal judge about to be on the Supreme Court and she comes before the Senate and the entitled white Republican Senators do not consider her testimony or collaborating evidence or request for an FBI investigation to be important enough to believe and certainly not worthy of ruining Kavanaugh's 'right' to become a SCOTUS.
Not all men are entitled white men but the ones who are sitting in judgement of Ford and those who sat in judgement of Till are of the same ilk - they consider themselves to be superior to the other party.
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The age of entitled white men is going to end. They (or we since
you could, I suppose, consider me an entitled white man but, damn, how I
hate those all-encompassing labels) are in the minority on this small
planet- both males and whites.
But while were at it, if we are going to admonish entitled white men we might well admonish entitled Americans, as even the poorest of us live like royalty compared to a poor peasant in Myanmar. Certainly those of us who can afford our electronic devices and high priced tickets to mega rock star concerts and drive our shiny beast vehicles. Who among us here is not entitled?
Sorry, not meaning to cause offense, but I HATE labels!
If Kavanaugh is proven guilty, fuck him! But don't pigeon hole all us white guys. We aren't all motherfuckers and rapists.
Agree with this. "White" should not be an insult or pejorative term.
The age of entitled white men is going to end. They (or we since
you could, I suppose, consider me an entitled white man but, damn, how I
hate those all-encompassing labels) are in the minority on this small
planet- both males and whites.
But while were at it, if we are going to admonish entitled white men we might well admonish entitled Americans, as even the poorest of us live like royalty compared to a poor peasant in Myanmar. Certainly those of us who can afford our electronic devices and high priced tickets to mega rock star concerts and drive our shiny beast vehicles. Who among us here is not entitled?
Sorry, not meaning to cause offense, but I HATE labels!
If Kavanaugh is proven guilty, fuck him! But don't pigeon hole all us white guys. We aren't all motherfuckers and rapists.
Agree with this. "White" should not be an insult or pejorative term.
Totally agree with you bud but on these forums it is almost looked down upon if you are white and successful.
And yet it used thusly, even here in these threads. That is a slippery slope because some of the bands that some people here are fans of are comprised of members who are, technically speaking, "privileged white men" and if someone has an issue with "privileged white men" and yet supports those groups, they make of themselves hypocrites. Or maybe just stop with the hating all white guys who happened, as an accident of birth, to not be born into poverty.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
There is nothing wrong with being white male and successful. When you also think that minorities and women are not as important or easily dismissed, then that is an entitled white male. I didn't speak of anyone on here, I am speaking of those who killed Till and who listened to Ford, only to dismiss her. Kavanaugh is entitled because he can come before the judiciary committee for a job interview after an extremely credible and humble woman, who struggled to please the committee, and act like a toddler throwing a tantrum. He is seen as rightfully angry for what he has been through but if a woman had acted as he had, she would have been removed from the room.
The only comparison is that the people who dismissed Till and Ford's equality are entitled white men.
What? This makes zero sense to me.
Till was a black boy in a land ruled by the KKK. His word didn't matter because he was not considered an equal, not worthy of listening to and certainly not of believing. Ford alleges that she was sexually assaulted by a Prep School boy in the 1980's who is now a federal judge about to be on the Supreme Court and she comes before the Senate and the entitled white Republican Senators do not consider her testimony or collaborating evidence or request for an FBI investigation to be important enough to believe and certainly not worthy of ruining Kavanaugh's 'right' to become a SCOTUS.
Not all men are entitled white men but the ones who are sitting in judgement of Ford and those who sat in judgement of Till are of the same ilk - they consider themselves to be superior to the other party.
Till was from Illinois and was visiting his cousins in Mississippi. A little different than your portrayal. He was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Ms Bryant was and will always be a pos in my eyes.
Take them one case at a time. Gather the information, maybe give a lie detector test, go to court, make a determination. Why complicate the situation? Why make assumptions? Get the facts. Make a judgement. If guilty, apply appropriate punishment and make an example of inappropriate behavior. Men, be cool, set a good example, treat women as equals. Women, be truthful, don't fabricate bullshit.
Damn, this is such a crazy mixed up world. Maybe that's what make's my head spin? (Sure wish I had an answer to that vexing issue. Sorry- I know, it's not all about me.)
Agree with a lot of this, except the lie detector test. Can’t use in court...and really not a great method to determine truth.
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There is nothing wrong with being white male and successful. When you also think that minorities and women are not as important or easily dismissed, then that is an entitled white male. I didn't speak of anyone on here, I am speaking of those who killed Till and who listened to Ford, only to dismiss her. Kavanaugh is entitled because he can come before the judiciary committee for a job interview after an extremely credible and humble woman, who struggled to please the committee, and act like a toddler throwing a tantrum. He is seen as rightfully angry for what he has been through but if a woman had acted as he had, she would have been removed from the room.
I think most of us would agree with what you say here, NJN. Obviously many here think highly of a certain successful white male who likes to sing, surf, throw hatches, climb lighting fixtures and bash holes into the floor of stages. I would also venture to guess that most of us here think highly of minorities and women like Rosa Parks Ida B. Wells, Shirley Chisholm, among many others.
And I think most of us here would agree that if Kavanaugh is proven guilty, he should pay the penalty and be made an example of inappropriate behavior.
I would also hope that maybe we could avoid all-encompassing terms like "privileged white men" because in using such a term, the singer and the sinner are placed in the same grouping.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
It is kinda sad how much white and man are used as derogatory comments here. I generally know the people using them are really just referring to specific people they don’t like....but it’s still not a great thing imo.
Does no one on here believe that the whiteness of your skin and being male doesn’t allow you certain “perks?” “Entitled” qualified “white male.” It wasn’t a blanket statement unless you believe all white males think of themselves as “entitled.” Kavanaugh certainly thinks that of himself as he busted his ass. And worked out. And likes beer.
It is kinda sad how much white and man are used as derogatory comments here. I generally know the people using them are really just referring to specific people they don’t like....but it’s still not a great thing imo.
Well said and more succinctly than my blathering on. Thank you!
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
The age of entitled white men is going to end. They (or we since
you could, I suppose, consider me an entitled white man but, damn, how I
hate those all-encompassing labels) are in the minority on this small
planet- both males and whites.
But while were at it, if we are going to admonish entitled white men we might well admonish entitled Americans, as even the poorest of us live like royalty compared to a poor peasant in Myanmar. Certainly those of us who can afford our electronic devices and high priced tickets to mega rock star concerts and drive our shiny beast vehicles. Who among us here is not entitled?
Sorry, not meaning to cause offense, but I HATE labels!
If Kavanaugh is proven guilty, fuck him! But don't pigeon hole all us white guys. We aren't all motherfuckers and rapists.
Any father rapists amongst us? Thanksgiving is coming up.
This could be one of the dumbest comments I have ever read on this forum. Be better than this.
The age of entitled white men is going to end. They (or we since
you could, I suppose, consider me an entitled white man but, damn, how I
hate those all-encompassing labels) are in the minority on this small
planet- both males and whites.
But while were at it, if we are going to admonish entitled white men we might well admonish entitled Americans, as even the poorest of us live like royalty compared to a poor peasant in Myanmar. Certainly those of us who can afford our electronic devices and high priced tickets to mega rock star concerts and drive our shiny beast vehicles. Who among us here is not entitled?
Sorry, not meaning to cause offense, but I HATE labels!
If Kavanaugh is proven guilty, fuck him! But don't pigeon hole all us white guys. We aren't all motherfuckers and rapists.
Any father rapists amongst us? Thanksgiving is coming up.
This could be one of the dumbest comments I have ever read on this forum. Be better than this.
C’mon McGruff, get the cultural reference and stop being so sensitive.
The age of entitled white men is going to end. They (or we since
you could, I suppose, consider me an entitled white man but, damn, how I
hate those all-encompassing labels) are in the minority on this small
planet- both males and whites.
But while were at it, if we are going to admonish entitled white men we might well admonish entitled Americans, as even the poorest of us live like royalty compared to a poor peasant in Myanmar. Certainly those of us who can afford our electronic devices and high priced tickets to mega rock star concerts and drive our shiny beast vehicles. Who among us here is not entitled?
Sorry, not meaning to cause offense, but I HATE labels!
If Kavanaugh is proven guilty, fuck him! But don't pigeon hole all us white guys. We aren't all motherfuckers and rapists.
Any father rapists amongst us? Thanksgiving is coming up.
This could be one of the dumbest comments I have ever read on this forum. Be better than this.
C’mon McGruff, get the cultural reference and stop being so sensitive.
You were referring to "Alice's Restaurant", correct?
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
The age of entitled white men is going to end. They (or we since
you could, I suppose, consider me an entitled white man but, damn, how I
hate those all-encompassing labels) are in the minority on this small
planet- both males and whites.
But while were at it, if we are going to admonish entitled white men we might well admonish entitled Americans, as even the poorest of us live like royalty compared to a poor peasant in Myanmar. Certainly those of us who can afford our electronic devices and high priced tickets to mega rock star concerts and drive our shiny beast vehicles. Who among us here is not entitled?
Sorry, not meaning to cause offense, but I HATE labels!
If Kavanaugh is proven guilty, fuck him! But don't pigeon hole all us white guys. We aren't all motherfuckers and rapists.
Any father rapists amongst us? Thanksgiving is coming up.
This could be one of the dumbest comments I have ever read on this forum. Be better than this.
C’mon McGruff, get the cultural reference and stop being so sensitive.
Father rapists is a cultural reference? Do explain and don’t be vague like your original sentence.
The age of entitled white men is going to end. They (or we since
you could, I suppose, consider me an entitled white man but, damn, how I
hate those all-encompassing labels) are in the minority on this small
planet- both males and whites.
But while were at it, if we are going to admonish entitled white men we might well admonish entitled Americans, as even the poorest of us live like royalty compared to a poor peasant in Myanmar. Certainly those of us who can afford our electronic devices and high priced tickets to mega rock star concerts and drive our shiny beast vehicles. Who among us here is not entitled?
Sorry, not meaning to cause offense, but I HATE labels!
If Kavanaugh is proven guilty, fuck him! But don't pigeon hole all us white guys. We aren't all motherfuckers and rapists.
Any father rapists amongst us? Thanksgiving is coming up.
This could be one of the dumbest comments I have ever read on this forum. Be better than this.
C’mon McGruff, get the cultural reference and stop being so sensitive.
You were referring to "Alice's Restaurant", correct?
I knew you’d get it but then again you’re liberal and listen to the devil’s music. Feeling better, Mr. Lux? I, for one, hope so.
The age of entitled white men is going to end. They (or we since
you could, I suppose, consider me an entitled white man but, damn, how I
hate those all-encompassing labels) are in the minority on this small
planet- both males and whites.
But while were at it, if we are going to admonish entitled white men we might well admonish entitled Americans, as even the poorest of us live like royalty compared to a poor peasant in Myanmar. Certainly those of us who can afford our electronic devices and high priced tickets to mega rock star concerts and drive our shiny beast vehicles. Who among us here is not entitled?
Sorry, not meaning to cause offense, but I HATE labels!
If Kavanaugh is proven guilty, fuck him! But don't pigeon hole all us white guys. We aren't all motherfuckers and rapists.
Any father rapists amongst us? Thanksgiving is coming up.
This could be one of the dumbest comments I have ever read on this forum. Be better than this.
C’mon McGruff, get the cultural reference and stop being so sensitive.
You were referring to "Alice's Restaurant", correct?
I knew you’d get it but then again you’re liberal and listen to the devil’s music. Feeling better, Mr. Lux? I, for one, hope so.
Haha! Yes!
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
The age of entitled white men is going to end. They (or we since
you could, I suppose, consider me an entitled white man but, damn, how I
hate those all-encompassing labels) are in the minority on this small
planet- both males and whites.
But while were at it, if we are going to admonish entitled white men we might well admonish entitled Americans, as even the poorest of us live like royalty compared to a poor peasant in Myanmar. Certainly those of us who can afford our electronic devices and high priced tickets to mega rock star concerts and drive our shiny beast vehicles. Who among us here is not entitled?
Sorry, not meaning to cause offense, but I HATE labels!
If Kavanaugh is proven guilty, fuck him! But don't pigeon hole all us white guys. We aren't all motherfuckers and rapists.
Any father rapists amongst us? Thanksgiving is coming up.
This could be one of the dumbest comments I have ever read on this forum. Be better than this.
C’mon McGruff, get the cultural reference and stop being so sensitive.
Father rapists is a cultural reference? Do explain and don’t be vague like your original sentence.
The age of entitled white men is going to end. They (or we since
you could, I suppose, consider me an entitled white man but, damn, how I
hate those all-encompassing labels) are in the minority on this small
planet- both males and whites.
But while were at it, if we are going to admonish entitled white men we might well admonish entitled Americans, as even the poorest of us live like royalty compared to a poor peasant in Myanmar. Certainly those of us who can afford our electronic devices and high priced tickets to mega rock star concerts and drive our shiny beast vehicles. Who among us here is not entitled?
Sorry, not meaning to cause offense, but I HATE labels!
If Kavanaugh is proven guilty, fuck him! But don't pigeon hole all us white guys. We aren't all motherfuckers and rapists.
Any father rapists amongst us? Thanksgiving is coming up.
This could be one of the dumbest comments I have ever read on this forum. Be better than this.
C’mon McGruff, get the cultural reference and stop being so sensitive.
Father rapists is a cultural reference? Do explain and don’t be vague like your original sentence.
The age of entitled white men is going to end. They (or we since
you could, I suppose, consider me an entitled white man but, damn, how I
hate those all-encompassing labels) are in the minority on this small
planet- both males and whites.
But while were at it, if we are going to admonish entitled white men we might well admonish entitled Americans, as even the poorest of us live like royalty compared to a poor peasant in Myanmar. Certainly those of us who can afford our electronic devices and high priced tickets to mega rock star concerts and drive our shiny beast vehicles. Who among us here is not entitled?
Sorry, not meaning to cause offense, but I HATE labels!
If Kavanaugh is proven guilty, fuck him! But don't pigeon hole all us white guys. We aren't all motherfuckers and rapists.
Any father rapists amongst us? Thanksgiving is coming up.
This could be one of the dumbest comments I have ever read on this forum. Be better than this.
C’mon McGruff, get the cultural reference and stop being so sensitive.
Father rapists is a cultural reference? Do explain and don’t be vague like your original sentence.
No code is my favorite album but do me a favor and don’t talk in code.
Ha! Mine too. Would you have preferred a hissy fit as it was within a quote responding to someone else and was misconstrued as I had originally intended? Posters post in code all the time, lots of dog whistles for example.
The age of entitled white men is going to end. They (or we since
you could, I suppose, consider me an entitled white man but, damn, how I
hate those all-encompassing labels) are in the minority on this small
planet- both males and whites.
But while were at it, if we are going to admonish entitled white men we might well admonish entitled Americans, as even the poorest of us live like royalty compared to a poor peasant in Myanmar. Certainly those of us who can afford our electronic devices and high priced tickets to mega rock star concerts and drive our shiny beast vehicles. Who among us here is not entitled?
Sorry, not meaning to cause offense, but I HATE labels!
If Kavanaugh is proven guilty, fuck him! But don't pigeon hole all us white guys. We aren't all motherfuckers and rapists.
Any father rapists amongst us? Thanksgiving is coming up.
This could be one of the dumbest comments I have ever read on this forum. Be better than this.
C’mon McGruff, get the cultural reference and stop being so sensitive.
Father rapists is a cultural reference? Do explain and don’t be vague like your original sentence.
No code is my favorite album but do me a favor and don’t talk in code.
Ha! Mine too. Would you have preferred a hissy fit as it was within a quote responding to someone else and was misconstrued as I had originally intended? Posters post in code all the time, lots of dog whistles for example.
Just tell me like it is. I don’t like Kavanaugh at all but I have a problem with someone coming out with a story 30 years later. That s me. If there was an altercation then report it so at least there is some sort of paper trail and maybe he ll think twice about doing it again. Listened to no code on vinyl today, pure bliss.
I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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No Code! Now were talking some devil music- all those guts 'n teeth 'n stitches and stuff. Oh yeahhhhhh!
OK, break's over. Everybody back on your heads.
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Not all men are entitled white men but the ones who are sitting in judgement of Ford and those who sat in judgement of Till are of the same ilk - they consider themselves to be superior to the other party.
And yet it used thusly, even here in these threads. That is a slippery slope because some of the bands that some people here are fans of are comprised of members who are, technically speaking, "privileged white men" and if someone has an issue with "privileged white men" and yet supports those groups, they make of themselves hypocrites. Or maybe just stop with the hating all white guys who happened, as an accident of birth, to not be born into poverty.
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What a fucking joke.
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Listened to no code on vinyl today, pure bliss.