Why does Pearl Jam totally disregard Binaural?

B-Girl

mcgruff10 said:

B-Girl said:

.....and Lightning Bolt is their worst album by far

LOl. To each their own. Binaural was the first time I was ever disappointed in a pj album (along with literally everyone one of my friends who had followed pj since ten). The 2000 tour was kind of flat.  Denmark had something to do with it and anything post yield tour was sure to be a let down. Riot act was an even bigger disappointment for many of us.  Self titled was a nice come back but man oh man, I was not a huge fan of albums 6-7.  

Hats off to you.  To each their own indeed.  We listen to alot of music in our house, and we are quite fond of experimental, ambient, krautrock, etc. In addition to our rock staples.  So, I appreciate the album quite a bit for that moody/atmospheric feeling it has.  I would ask you...would you still be the fan you are if they kept cranking out iterations of Ten and Vs for the last 28 yrs?   God bless those albums, they put the band on the map, but I don't think that's their finest work, even though they give me warm fuzzies for memories back in the day lol.

mcgruff10

B-Girl said:

mcgruff10 said:

B-Girl said:

.....and Lightning Bolt is their worst album by far

LOl. To each their own. Binaural was the first time I was ever disappointed in a pj album (along with literally everyone one of my friends who had followed pj since ten). The 2000 tour was kind of flat.  Denmark had something to do with it and anything post yield tour was sure to be a let down. Riot act was an even bigger disappointment for many of us.  Self titled was a nice come back but man oh man, I was not a huge fan of albums 6-7.  

Hats off to you.  To each their own indeed.  We listen to alot of music in our house, and we are quite fond of experimental, ambient, krautrock, etc. In addition to our rock staples.  So, I appreciate the album quite a bit for that moody/atmospheric feeling it has.  I would ask you...would you still be the fan you are if they kept cranking out iterations of Ten and Vs for the last 28 yrs?   God bless those albums, they put the band on the map, but I don't think that's their finest work, even though they give me warm fuzzies for memories back in the day lol.

I personally think their greatest work was no code and yield.  I agree with you though, I would not be as big a fan if they did keep producing ten and vs over and over again. I respect your opinion on binaural however that riot act just aren’t my cup of tea and it seems the band feels the same way. Just my two cents.  I liked binaural and riot act enough to see them 16 times in 00 and 03 so I guess they aren’t that bad lol. 

B-Girl

mcgruff10 said:

B-Girl said:

mcgruff10 said:

B-Girl said:

.....and Lightning Bolt is their worst album by far

LOl. To each their own. Binaural was the first time I was ever disappointed in a pj album (along with literally everyone one of my friends who had followed pj since ten). The 2000 tour was kind of flat.  Denmark had something to do with it and anything post yield tour was sure to be a let down. Riot act was an even bigger disappointment for many of us.  Self titled was a nice come back but man oh man, I was not a huge fan of albums 6-7.  

Hats off to you.  To each their own indeed.  We listen to alot of music in our house, and we are quite fond of experimental, ambient, krautrock, etc. In addition to our rock staples.  So, I appreciate the album quite a bit for that moody/atmospheric feeling it has.  I would ask you...would you still be the fan you are if they kept cranking out iterations of Ten and Vs for the last 28 yrs?   God bless those albums, they put the band on the map, but I don't think that's their finest work, even though they give me warm fuzzies for memories back in the day lol.

I personally think their greatest work was no code and yield.  I agree with you though, I would not be as big a fan if they did keep producing ten and vs over and over again. I respect your opinion on binaural however that riot act just aren’t my cup of tea and it seems the band feels the same way. Just my two cents.  I liked binaural and riot act enough to see them 16 times in 00 and 03 so I guess they aren’t that bad lol. 

I agree with you that Riot Act wasn't their strongest, I am a Vitalogy/No Code/ Binaural fan myself, Yield finishes a strong fourth.

dimitrispearljam

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

its sad they dont play more of binaural..its a masterpiece...

It is impossible to be a masterpiece when evacuation is on it. 

  its a masterpiece when this song has the best druming of matt

  I don’t care what type of drumming there is it is still a crappy song.  There wasn’t too much crowd energy when they played it in 2000. I d ask your personal opinion on that but only one of us saw them that tour.

this song has the best drumming of matt,,enough said

What did you think of Matt s drumming of this song in 03? Wait a second, you didn’t see them that tour either huh?   I ll give you a first hand account: it still wasn’t good live. If it was they’d play it more often. 

    saw them more times than u tho..nanana nanana

mcgruff10

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

its sad they dont play more of binaural..its a masterpiece...

It is impossible to be a masterpiece when evacuation is on it. 

  its a masterpiece when this song has the best druming of matt

  I don’t care what type of drumming there is it is still a crappy song.  There wasn’t too much crowd energy when they played it in 2000. I d ask your personal opinion on that but only one of us saw them that tour.

this song has the best drumming of matt,,enough said

What did you think of Matt s drumming of this song in 03? Wait a second, you didn’t see them that tour either huh?   I ll give you a first hand account: it still wasn’t good live. If it was they’d play it more often. 

    saw them more times than u tho..nanana nanana

lol.  I'm stuck on 58, what are you two ahead of me?  

dimitrispearljam

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

its sad they dont play more of binaural..its a masterpiece...

It is impossible to be a masterpiece when evacuation is on it. 

  its a masterpiece when this song has the best druming of matt

  I don’t care what type of drumming there is it is still a crappy song.  There wasn’t too much crowd energy when they played it in 2000. I d ask your personal opinion on that but only one of us saw them that tour.

this song has the best drumming of matt,,enough said

What did you think of Matt s drumming of this song in 03? Wait a second, you didn’t see them that tour either huh?   I ll give you a first hand account: it still wasn’t good live. If it was they’d play it more often. 

    saw them more times than u tho..nanana nanana

lol.  I'm stuck on 58, what are you two ahead of me?  

62,woot

dimitrispearljam

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

its sad they dont play more of binaural..its a masterpiece...

It is impossible to be a masterpiece when evacuation is on it. 

  its a masterpiece when this song has the best druming of matt

  I don’t care what type of drumming there is it is still a crappy song.  There wasn’t too much crowd energy when they played it in 2000. I d ask your personal opinion on that but only one of us saw them that tour.

this song has the best drumming of matt,,enough said

What did you think of Matt s drumming of this song in 03? Wait a second, you didn’t see them that tour either huh?   I ll give you a first hand account: it still wasn’t good live. If it was they’d play it more often. 

    saw them more times than u tho..nanana nanana

lol.  I'm stuck on 58, what are you two ahead of me?  

the biggest problem is,,we didnt saw them together ,,that sucks!

mcgruff10

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

its sad they dont play more of binaural..its a masterpiece...

It is impossible to be a masterpiece when evacuation is on it. 

  its a masterpiece when this song has the best druming of matt

  I don’t care what type of drumming there is it is still a crappy song.  There wasn’t too much crowd energy when they played it in 2000. I d ask your personal opinion on that but only one of us saw them that tour.

this song has the best drumming of matt,,enough said

What did you think of Matt s drumming of this song in 03? Wait a second, you didn’t see them that tour either huh?   I ll give you a first hand account: it still wasn’t good live. If it was they’d play it more often. 

    saw them more times than u tho..nanana nanana

lol.  I'm stuck on 58, what are you two ahead of me?  

the biggest problem is,,we didnt saw them together ,,that sucks!

THis is true!! Should I start saving for Australia?

mcgruff10

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

its sad they dont play more of binaural..its a masterpiece...

It is impossible to be a masterpiece when evacuation is on it. 

  its a masterpiece when this song has the best druming of matt

  I don’t care what type of drumming there is it is still a crappy song.  There wasn’t too much crowd energy when they played it in 2000. I d ask your personal opinion on that but only one of us saw them that tour.

this song has the best drumming of matt,,enough said

What did you think of Matt s drumming of this song in 03? Wait a second, you didn’t see them that tour either huh?   I ll give you a first hand account: it still wasn’t good live. If it was they’d play it more often. 

    saw them more times than u tho..nanana nanana

lol.  I'm stuck on 58, what are you two ahead of me?  

62,woot

62 since 2006....nice!!!

PJNB

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

its sad they dont play more of binaural..its a masterpiece...

It is impossible to be a masterpiece when evacuation is on it. 

  its a masterpiece when this song has the best druming of matt

  I don’t care what type of drumming there is it is still a crappy song.  There wasn’t too much crowd energy when they played it in 2000. I d ask your personal opinion on that but only one of us saw them that tour.

this song has the best drumming of matt,,enough said

What did you think of Matt s drumming of this song in 03? Wait a second, you didn’t see them that tour either huh?   I ll give you a first hand account: it still wasn’t good live. If it was they’d play it more often. 

    saw them more times than u tho..nanana nanana

lol.  I'm stuck on 58, what are you two ahead of me?  

the biggest problem is,,we didnt saw them together ,,that sucks!

THis is true!! Should I start saving for Australia?

I already told Jess about Australia. Travel time alone is going to kill this possible trip for us I think. Over 32 hrs to get to Sydney. 

mcgruff10

PJNB said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

its sad they dont play more of binaural..its a masterpiece...

It is impossible to be a masterpiece when evacuation is on it. 

  its a masterpiece when this song has the best druming of matt

  I don’t care what type of drumming there is it is still a crappy song.  There wasn’t too much crowd energy when they played it in 2000. I d ask your personal opinion on that but only one of us saw them that tour.

this song has the best drumming of matt,,enough said

What did you think of Matt s drumming of this song in 03? Wait a second, you didn’t see them that tour either huh?   I ll give you a first hand account: it still wasn’t good live. If it was they’d play it more often. 

    saw them more times than u tho..nanana nanana

lol.  I'm stuck on 58, what are you two ahead of me?  

the biggest problem is,,we didnt saw them together ,,that sucks!

THis is true!! Should I start saving for Australia?

I already told Jess about Australia. Travel time alone is going to kill this possible trip for us I think. Over 32 hrs to get to Sydney. 

Wow that’s a lot of travel time.  Yeah I seriously doubt Australia will happen. 

dimitrispearljam

PJNB said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

its sad they dont play more of binaural..its a masterpiece...

It is impossible to be a masterpiece when evacuation is on it. 

  its a masterpiece when this song has the best druming of matt

  I don’t care what type of drumming there is it is still a crappy song.  There wasn’t too much crowd energy when they played it in 2000. I d ask your personal opinion on that but only one of us saw them that tour.

this song has the best drumming of matt,,enough said

What did you think of Matt s drumming of this song in 03? Wait a second, you didn’t see them that tour either huh?   I ll give you a first hand account: it still wasn’t good live. If it was they’d play it more often. 

    saw them more times than u tho..nanana nanana

lol.  I'm stuck on 58, what are you two ahead of me?  

the biggest problem is,,we didnt saw them together ,,that sucks!

THis is true!! Should I start saving for Australia?

I already told Jess about Australia. Travel time alone is going to kill this possible trip for us I think. Over 32 hrs to get to Sydney. 

im going even if its 150 hours travel

PJNB

dimitrispearljam said:

PJNB said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

its sad they dont play more of binaural..its a masterpiece...

It is impossible to be a masterpiece when evacuation is on it. 

  its a masterpiece when this song has the best druming of matt

  I don’t care what type of drumming there is it is still a crappy song.  There wasn’t too much crowd energy when they played it in 2000. I d ask your personal opinion on that but only one of us saw them that tour.

this song has the best drumming of matt,,enough said

What did you think of Matt s drumming of this song in 03? Wait a second, you didn’t see them that tour either huh?   I ll give you a first hand account: it still wasn’t good live. If it was they’d play it more often. 

    saw them more times than u tho..nanana nanana

lol.  I'm stuck on 58, what are you two ahead of me?  

the biggest problem is,,we didnt saw them together ,,that sucks!

THis is true!! Should I start saving for Australia?

I already told Jess about Australia. Travel time alone is going to kill this possible trip for us I think. Over 32 hrs to get to Sydney. 

im going even if its 150 hours travel

Festivals only would you? If they are straight up shows instead of Big Day Outs I am going to seriously consider this though doubt we can swing it. I have always wanted to go to Australia but feel like that ship has sailed or we will have to wait for our kids to get older to make the trip worth it for all of us. 

dimitrispearljam

PJNB said:

dimitrispearljam said:

PJNB said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

its sad they dont play more of binaural..its a masterpiece...

It is impossible to be a masterpiece when evacuation is on it. 

  its a masterpiece when this song has the best druming of matt

  I don’t care what type of drumming there is it is still a crappy song.  There wasn’t too much crowd energy when they played it in 2000. I d ask your personal opinion on that but only one of us saw them that tour.

this song has the best drumming of matt,,enough said

What did you think of Matt s drumming of this song in 03? Wait a second, you didn’t see them that tour either huh?   I ll give you a first hand account: it still wasn’t good live. If it was they’d play it more often. 

    saw them more times than u tho..nanana nanana

lol.  I'm stuck on 58, what are you two ahead of me?  

the biggest problem is,,we didnt saw them together ,,that sucks!

THis is true!! Should I start saving for Australia?

I already told Jess about Australia. Travel time alone is going to kill this possible trip for us I think. Over 32 hrs to get to Sydney. 

im going even if its 150 hours travel

Festivals only would you? If they are straight up shows instead of Big Day Outs I am going to seriously consider this though doubt we can swing it. I have always wanted to go to Australia but feel like that ship has sailed or we will have to wait for our kids to get older to make the trip worth it for all of us. 

yes,im going to australia even for festivals,i dont mind

mcgruff10

PJNB said:

dimitrispearljam said:

PJNB said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mcgruff10 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

its sad they dont play more of binaural..its a masterpiece...

It is impossible to be a masterpiece when evacuation is on it. 

  its a masterpiece when this song has the best druming of matt

  I don’t care what type of drumming there is it is still a crappy song.  There wasn’t too much crowd energy when they played it in 2000. I d ask your personal opinion on that but only one of us saw them that tour.

this song has the best drumming of matt,,enough said

What did you think of Matt s drumming of this song in 03? Wait a second, you didn’t see them that tour either huh?   I ll give you a first hand account: it still wasn’t good live. If it was they’d play it more often. 

    saw them more times than u tho..nanana nanana

lol.  I'm stuck on 58, what are you two ahead of me?  

the biggest problem is,,we didnt saw them together ,,that sucks!

THis is true!! Should I start saving for Australia?

I already told Jess about Australia. Travel time alone is going to kill this possible trip for us I think. Over 32 hrs to get to Sydney. 

im going even if its 150 hours travel

Festivals only would you? If they are straight up shows instead of Big Day Outs I am going to seriously consider this though doubt we can swing it. I have always wanted to go to Australia but feel like that ship has sailed or we will have to wait for our kids to get older to make the trip worth it for all of us. 

No way I d entertain the trip if it was a festival. I might have enough frequent flyer for one ticket but definitely not two. 

Vedd Hedd

I have heard Evacuation botched more than once.   But that said...I would generally prefer a few less cover songs and a few more Binaural/RiotAct/Avocado songs per show.   I love a greatly timed "Woah, I cant believe they are playing this" cover song, though.   Like when they played Surrender, or The Boys are Back in Town, or something unusual like that. But yeah, overall, I want to hear their stuff.  They have great songs and a great catalog.   

Lerxst1992

Don't understand the Binaural disrespect.

1.8% in 2018? Keep playing Jeremy and ruin Corduroy with yeah yeah yeah. Makes one think.

Was thrilled back in y2k that Binaural tour was my first ever show at Jones Beach, except Ed telling me that night to vote for Nader.Thanks Ed, Nader cost us Supreme Court for 40 years.

Even during Binaural tour Binaural had to fight it out to be the most album played that night, 8.23.2000. This was before the days of 9 covers, At least there was only one , one of their absolute best-

Long Road

Corduroy

Grievance

Gods' Dice

Animal

Faithful

Nothing as It Seems

Wishlist

MFC

Habit

Even Flow

Daughter @Info[with "Hold On" tag]

Better Man

Leatherman

Nothingman

Not for You

Rearviewmirror

Soon Forget

Present Tense

Sleight of Hand

Last Exit

Do the Evolution

State of Love and Trust

Black

Fuckin' Up 

100 Pacer

To borrow a line from Emek:

”Binaural is the thinking man’s/woman’s/gender neutral’s PJ album.”

Gern Blansten

100 Pacer said:

To borrow a line from Emek:

”Binaural is the thinking man’s/woman’s/gender neutral’s PJ album.”

I don't know....I would put Riot Act as that album.  But yeah, they don't play nearly enough Binaural (or RA). 

And I really want Corduroy to be pure.  And I don't want to ever hear RITFW again.  Ever.

PB11041

Lerxst1992 said:

Don't understand the Binaural disrespect.

1.8% in 2018? Keep playing Jeremy and ruin Corduroy with yeah yeah yeah. Makes one think.

Was thrilled back in y2k that Binaural tour was my first ever show at Jones Beach, except Ed telling me that night to vote for Nader.Thanks Ed, Nader cost us Supreme Court for 40 years.

Even during Binaural tour Binaural had to fight it out to be the most album played that night, 8.23.2000. This was before the days of 9 covers, At least there was only one , one of their absolute best-

Long Road

Corduroy

Grievance

Gods' Dice

Animal

Faithful

Nothing as It Seems

Wishlist

MFC

Habit

Even Flow

Daughter @Info[with "Hold On" tag]

Better Man

Leatherman

Nothingman

Not for You

Rearviewmirror

Soon Forget

Present Tense

Sleight of Hand

Last Exit

Do the Evolution

State of Love and Trust

Black

Fuckin' Up 

Nader had zero material impact on the makeup of the supreme court.  There were no openings in the court during the period of January 20, 2001 thru January 20, 2005.   Impossible to tell had Gore won in 2000 that he would have been reelected in 2004.  

Back to Binuaral, it would be beneficial for the band to get back to playing a bit more of the 1998 through 2003 material at this point.