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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 18,974
    PJPOWER said:
    this poster does not depict anything violent. I'm not sure how anyone can make that claim. if tester was standing over trump with Negan's baseball bat, then sure, but all it shows is his skeleton. this is so not a big deal. 
    I agree.  I can see how some might see it as “distasteful” on a artistic personal preference level, but otherwise I believe it falls under the 1st Amendment rights category.  But I also agree with your previous comment about the outrage by thin skinned individuals if the tables were turned.  It’s just a fucking politically inspired concert poster at the end of the day, not a call for violence or threat or anything that would take it out of the realm of 1st Amendment protected rights.  
    It most likely wouldn’t be one that I would hang on my wall due to the political nature (I prefer to display more light hearted artwork in my house), but could see it being a cool “signs of the times” piece of artwork in the future.
    anyone on the left claiming there wouldn't be absolute outrage and condemnation if this was Obama is kidding themseleves. even if it somehow, miraculously, couldn't be misconstrued as racially motivated, the left would still go apeshit over it. 
    If Obama acted, spoke, tweeted and governed like Team Trump Treason, no. It’s not like Team Trump Treason and his Administration have been inclusive or concerned.
    not relevant.  
    If Team Trump Treason acted/governed more like a Bush or traditional repube, you’d see JA come up with this kind of poster?

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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo FacePosts: 4,780
    edited August 2018
    PJPOWER said:
    this poster does not depict anything violent. I'm not sure how anyone can make that claim. if tester was standing over trump with Negan's baseball bat, then sure, but all it shows is his skeleton. this is so not a big deal. 
    I agree.  I can see how some might see it as “distasteful” on a artistic personal preference level, but otherwise I believe it falls under the 1st Amendment rights category.  But I also agree with your previous comment about the outrage by thin skinned individuals if the tables were turned.  It’s just a fucking politically inspired concert poster at the end of the day, not a call for violence or threat or anything that would take it out of the realm of 1st Amendment protected rights.  
    It most likely wouldn’t be one that I would hang on my wall due to the political nature (I prefer to display more light hearted artwork in my house), but could see it being a cool “signs of the times” piece of artwork in the future.
    anyone on the left claiming there wouldn't be absolute outrage and condemnation if this was Obama is kidding themseleves. even if it somehow, miraculously, couldn't be misconstrued as racially motivated, the left would still go apeshit over it. 
    I agree, it almost seems as though people are desperate to find something to be offended by these days and the media LOVES playing off of it.  I’m sure Rachel Maddow and her followers would be the first to launch.  But again, from either side of the spectrum, it’s ridiculous to be “outraged” over this.  We’ll probably get a chance to see as I can totally picture imitation posters being made with any number of Democrats being portrayed as some sort of “revenge” for this poster since it has been so trending.
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 9,519
    this poster does not depict anything violent. I'm not sure how anyone can make that claim. if tester was standing over trump with Negan's baseball bat, then sure, but all it shows is his skeleton. this is so not a big deal. 
    Is that a UFO in there on the left? Maybe the Aliens did it? Maybe Trump could turn this into support for his space force! 
    On one of the other threads on this topic, someone suggested the space ship represented illegal aliens. Sounds good to me ;) 
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Now that I had a long look at the poster in person, I think it would have been much better (sorry if this was already suggested) if instead of the vote in the blue sky, a giant blue wave about to crash over the WH was depicted. It would signify the impending blue waves of 2018 and 2020 putting out the WH fire and 5 deferment Don along with it. Vote could have been scribed at the top of the wave and Big Pharma Jon could have been riding it to victory.
    I hope JA didn't spend too much thought on his version, either way he could incorporate my expressions and have a second release. Permission granted.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 18,974
    brianlux said:
    unsung said:

    The Republican Party and Fox News are upset about a poster.

    Let the simplicity and the pettiness and irony of that sink it briefly before I launch into the pure fuckery that is our Government. 

    A poster. 
    A poster.

    No... 
    Listen... 
    A poster.

    A rock n' roll poster has made NATIONAL news. 

    Not a group of Nazi's with tiki torches marching at a college. 
    Not a car plowing through protesters.
    Not a madman with an assault rifle killing children.
    Not a president who has pulled out of the Paris Accords.
    Not children being caged.
    Not when the President cut funding for Public Television. 
    Not native Americans being forced off their land for a pipeline.
    Not a president who openly admitted to sexually assaulting females.
    Not a president who had a sexual relationship with a porn star. 
    AND COVERED IT UP WITH HUSH MONEY!!!!
    Not a proven relationship with a foreign government who influenced the American voting process.

    No... they aren't upset or outraged about ANY of those things.

    Do you hear what I'm saying?

    A poster.

    A rock n roll poster...

    A POSTER for a ROCK CONCERT has literally upset the the Republican Party.   
    The Republican Party is the the group who has coined the phrase "snowflake" and who has admonished millennials for being overly sensitive.

    What kind of twisted, bizarro alternative fucking universe are we living in?  

    You've got your panties allllllll twisted because of a poster.

    Let me get out this tiny violin for you multi-millionaires.

    All of that has been national news for months.
    This poster and the news around it has been around for months?  Really?
    Before Alex Jones had his time out, he was reporting that a cabal of artists were conspiring against Team Trump Treason through a soon to be released stealth campaign in a surprising and disturbing location because of its vast importance to control of the senate, one that you wouldn't think would be attacked as its the heart of the conservative homeland and that it had to be stopped. He was sworn to secrecy by Q but was going to be given all the information required prior to tell his listeners when and how they could stop it. But first they had to donate whatever they could afford so he could pay the clergy to pray for their souls, so horrific this mission would be. But now, the 4th estate corrupted their heroic plan and the plot has proceeded. You see folks, Jeff Ament’s poster (see his early art work that predicted Comet Pizza, Elvis' disappearance, the Kennedy assassinations, Mt. St. Helens' eruption and his band mate plays a song called Eruption-further evidence) is really a magic mirror into the future and the deep state has the assistance of aliens as evidenced by the spaceship in the lower left of the image. This is serious folks and if you don’t donate to the cause, to stop the mind enslavement of conservatives and the gutting of their values by removing their dear leader, you will suffer in the flames and be lost. Donate now, donate now, I beg of you to donate now and stop this smelly, stinky, unwashed artists plot of the sweat of Satan and his minions. I beg of you, donate now! #alexjonessavesmontanaandthustheUSA
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,485
    JC29856 said:
    rgambs said:
    300 priests, 1000 known sexual abuse victims in Pennsylvania alone.
    Catholic Church had full knowledge, performed complete cover up.

    How in the fuck is this poster bigger news than that?
    Or the oddities surrounding the New Mexico kid training compound?
    Already has been razed.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 20,467
    mace1229 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I don’t get calling them conservative snowflakes for not liking this.
    If some country band had the same poster with Obama, do you not think there’d be 10 times the outrage? With accusations of racism and everything else.
    im not offended, but I get why some would be.
    What did Obama do to be hated so much that he would be depicted on a poster in such a way? Other than be black?
    I’m not saying he did.
    i just find it funny that conservatives get made fun of for being offended for something like this, but if the shoe was on the other foot there’s probably be marches and boycotts over it.
    I also think it’s very understandable to be upset that a current president is depicted as dead with a bird eating him. Also why I don’t get the poking fun at them.
    Having racist undertones isn't comparable. There is nothing racist about this poster. And yeah, as mentioned, Trump DESERVES this kind of reaction. He's created it himself. I think it's pretty crazy for conservatives to think that Trump is going to get away with what he does without any kind of backlash, including through artistic expression.
    That was basically my point. No one mentioned racism, I just said I find it funny that many are making fun of those who are offended, when I know for a fact there would be even more outrage if this poster came out a few years ago depicting Obama.
    Your response is that having racist undertones isn’t comparable. All I said was if this has Obama instead, and now that is suddenly racist?
    Why are conservatives “snowflakes” for getting offended, but it’s okay to accuse anyone who doesn’t like obama as a racist?
    I think the poster is sort of ugly, but the symbolism doesn’t bother me. I’d buy it if it actually said “Pearl Jam” anywhere one it and I was there.
    I just find the difference funny. All the lashing towards anyone who is offended, but imagine a poster made of Hilary? Facebook would crash from all the responses and protests over it. I have no doubt the hysteria would be 10 times what it is if this depicted anyone on the left, so let’s just stop poking fun at everyone who doesn’t like it. Or not, because it’s actually amusing to me when they do.
    Really where was the outrage when the racist pigs were hanging Obama in effigy or when idiot in chief had Nugent as his guest at the WH even after he referred to 1st lady Obama as a monkey ? No the hypocrisy is evident ..
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 3,342
    Can we define "outrage"?
    I haven't really seen what I call outside, outside of comments on Fox. Maybe some think it is in poor taste, but that isn't the same as outrage.  Didn't even Tester say it was poor taste, so I think that is a reasonable reaction.
    Ignore some Fox broadcasters and there isn't much outrage that I've seen.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 20,467
    I guess the giant P & J on the poster stand for who ? 
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  • blackhawksblackhawks Posts: 174
    I have had to set a few friends in place over the poster.  A couple were just busting balls and others were really giving me the biz.  I just said Trumps tweets don’t register to me why would something like this bother me?  It is art.  I also reminded a couple Metallica fans their members were pretty liberal so pump the brakes on all the hate.
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  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ONPosts: 7,388
    JC29856 said:
    Now that I had a long look at the poster in person, I think it would have been much better (sorry if this was already suggested) if instead of the vote in the blue sky, a giant blue wave about to crash over the WH was depicted. It would signify the impending blue waves of 2018 and 2020 putting out the WH fire and 5 deferment Don along with it. Vote could have been scribed at the top of the wave and Big Pharma Jon could have been riding it to victory.
    I hope JA didn't spend too much thought on his version, either way he could incorporate my expressions and have a second release. Permission granted.
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 9,519
    mace1229 said:
    Can we define "outrage"?
    I haven't really seen what I call outside, outside of comments on Fox. Maybe some think it is in poor taste, but that isn't the same as outrage.  Didn't even Tester say it was poor taste, so I think that is a reasonable reaction.
    Ignore some Fox broadcasters and there isn't much outrage that I've seen.
    Some “outrage” in comments on various news articles online across the spectrum 
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    unsung said:
    JC29856 said:
    rgambs said:
    300 priests, 1000 known sexual abuse victims in Pennsylvania alone.
    Catholic Church had full knowledge, performed complete cover up.

    How in the fuck is this poster bigger news than that?
    Or the oddities surrounding the New Mexico kid training compound?
    Already has been razed.
    A bit odd given a 3 year old was found dead on site, no? Pre teens were armed with automatic weapons, allegedly.
    Has David Hogg had any comment on the school shooting training site? 
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  • I have had to set a few friends in place over the poster.  A couple were just busting balls and others were really giving me the biz.  I just said Trumps tweets don’t register to me why would something like this bother me?  It is art.  I also reminded a couple Metallica fans their members were pretty liberal so pump the brakes on all the hate.

    Trump's tweets do not compare with art in any way shape or form.

    They are the authentic utterings of a president and more often than not they are disturbing and hardly 'presidential'. If you are okay with how he conducts himself in the public eye... you should probably do a bit of soul searching.
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  • blackhawksblackhawks Posts: 174
    I think you are trying to make nothing into something with my reply.  Social media doesn't impact or influence my life.  I don't have twitter, instagram, etc.  I don't like that 45 tweets the crap he does but I live my life very differently than you do.  I sense you are easily swayed, impacted, emotional, etc. over social media stuff.  I don't give two fucks.  We are different.   I have no reason to 'soul search' to be more like you.  In fact, I guarantee I am waaaaaay happier than you living my life the way I do.  Perhaps you should take a lesson from me and craft a happier life not connected to people who don't give a squirt if you are alive or dead on social media.
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 3,342
    mace1229 said:
    Can we define "outrage"?
    I haven't really seen what I call outside, outside of comments on Fox. Maybe some think it is in poor taste, but that isn't the same as outrage.  Didn't even Tester say it was poor taste, so I think that is a reasonable reaction.
    Ignore some Fox broadcasters and there isn't much outrage that I've seen.
    Some “outrage” in comments on various news articles online across the spectrum 
    I've seen some of that. I just dont think that equates to the amount of outrage many are claiming they see.
    Yeah, I've seen a couple news reports outraged over it (but only when I go out of my way and search for it, haven't seen any just watching evening news) and some comments online in response to articles about the poster.
    But I have yet to know anyone in person who is actually upset over it. Not one. 
    I just think by the way us snowflakes are being described and mocked at how easily we are offended, I'd at least know some in real life that exist. But I don't know a single one.
    I think the outrage is just in the media and no where else.
  • I think you are trying to make nothing into something with my reply.  Social media doesn't impact or influence my life.  I don't have twitter, instagram, etc.  I don't like that 45 tweets the crap he does but I live my life very differently than you do.  I sense you are easily swayed, impacted, emotional, etc. over social media stuff.  I don't give two fucks.  We are different.   I have no reason to 'soul search' to be more like you.  In fact, I guarantee I am waaaaaay happier than you living my life the way I do.  Perhaps you should take a lesson from me and craft a happier life not connected to people who don't give a squirt if you are alive or dead on social media.
    Damn.

    If only I could be like you. You sound like you're the best.

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 18,974
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Can we define "outrage"?
    I haven't really seen what I call outside, outside of comments on Fox. Maybe some think it is in poor taste, but that isn't the same as outrage.  Didn't even Tester say it was poor taste, so I think that is a reasonable reaction.
    Ignore some Fox broadcasters and there isn't much outrage that I've seen.
    Some “outrage” in comments on various news articles online across the spectrum 
    I've seen some of that. I just dont think that equates to the amount of outrage many are claiming they see.
    Yeah, I've seen a couple news reports outraged over it (but only when I go out of my way and search for it, haven't seen any just watching evening news) and some comments online in response to articles about the poster.
    But I have yet to know anyone in person who is actually upset over it. Not one. 
    I just think by the way us snowflakes are being described and mocked at how easily we are offended, I'd at least know some in real life that exist. But I don't know a single one.
    I think the outrage is just in the media and no where else.
    Tester’s opponent seemed pretty outraged by it as evidenced by his comments. But hey, if you don’t see it, it doesn’t exist.
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  • blackhawksblackhawks Posts: 174
    edited August 2018
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Can we define "outrage"?
    I haven't really seen what I call outside, outside of comments on Fox. Maybe some think it is in poor taste, but that isn't the same as outrage.  Didn't even Tester say it was poor taste, so I think that is a reasonable reaction.
    Ignore some Fox broadcasters and there isn't much outrage that I've seen.
    Some “outrage” in comments on various news articles online across the spectrum 
    I've seen some of that. I just dont think that equates to the amount of outrage many are claiming they see.
    Yeah, I've seen a couple news reports outraged over it (but only when I go out of my way and search for it, haven't seen any just watching evening news) and some comments online in response to articles about the poster.
    But I have yet to know anyone in person who is actually upset over it. Not one. 
    I just think by the way us snowflakes are being described and mocked at how easily we are offended, I'd at least know some in real life that exist. But I don't know a single one.
    I think the outrage is just in the media and no where else.
    Tester’s opponent seemed pretty outraged by it as evidenced by his comments. But hey, if you don’t see it, it doesn’t exist.
    Tester's opponent moved to Montana from Maryland sometime in the early 2000s.  I don't think the locals would like a transplant as their senior regardless of a poster.  
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 7,102
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Can we define "outrage"?
    I haven't really seen what I call outside, outside of comments on Fox. Maybe some think it is in poor taste, but that isn't the same as outrage.  Didn't even Tester say it was poor taste, so I think that is a reasonable reaction.
    Ignore some Fox broadcasters and there isn't much outrage that I've seen.
    Some “outrage” in comments on various news articles online across the spectrum 
    I've seen some of that. I just dont think that equates to the amount of outrage many are claiming they see.
    Yeah, I've seen a couple news reports outraged over it (but only when I go out of my way and search for it, haven't seen any just watching evening news) and some comments online in response to articles about the poster.
    But I have yet to know anyone in person who is actually upset over it. Not one. 
    I just think by the way us snowflakes are being described and mocked at how easily we are offended, I'd at least know some in real life that exist. But I don't know a single one.
    I think the outrage is just in the media and no where else.
    Tester’s opponent seemed pretty outraged by it as evidenced by his comments. But hey, if you don’t see it, it doesn’t exist.
    Tester's opponent moved to Montana from Maryland sometime in the early 2000s.  I don't think the locals would like a transplant as their senior regardless of a poster.  
    Which is why on the poster, he has a crab claw hand and is waving a Maryland flag. So you can relate to the poster?
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 3,342
    edited August 2018
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Can we define "outrage"?
    I haven't really seen what I call outside, outside of comments on Fox. Maybe some think it is in poor taste, but that isn't the same as outrage.  Didn't even Tester say it was poor taste, so I think that is a reasonable reaction.
    Ignore some Fox broadcasters and there isn't much outrage that I've seen.
    Some “outrage” in comments on various news articles online across the spectrum 
    I've seen some of that. I just dont think that equates to the amount of outrage many are claiming they see.
    Yeah, I've seen a couple news reports outraged over it (but only when I go out of my way and search for it, haven't seen any just watching evening news) and some comments online in response to articles about the poster.
    But I have yet to know anyone in person who is actually upset over it. Not one. 
    I just think by the way us snowflakes are being described and mocked at how easily we are offended, I'd at least know some in real life that exist. But I don't know a single one.
    I think the outrage is just in the media and no where else.
    Tester’s opponent seemed pretty outraged by it as evidenced by his comments. But hey, if you don’t see it, it doesn’t exist.
    Yes, because I know him personally.
    Read what I said. Other than the media, does anyone actually know anyone who is "outraged"?
    I don't.
    I didn't say it doesn't exist, but that it is just over-hyped.
    But apparently I'm wrong since you can point to one politician who is. And a guy who was actually in the poster too, so no wonder he was offended. Yeah, that counts, I'm wrong and everyone is outraged.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 18,974
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Can we define "outrage"?
    I haven't really seen what I call outside, outside of comments on Fox. Maybe some think it is in poor taste, but that isn't the same as outrage.  Didn't even Tester say it was poor taste, so I think that is a reasonable reaction.
    Ignore some Fox broadcasters and there isn't much outrage that I've seen.
    Some “outrage” in comments on various news articles online across the spectrum 
    I've seen some of that. I just dont think that equates to the amount of outrage many are claiming they see.
    Yeah, I've seen a couple news reports outraged over it (but only when I go out of my way and search for it, haven't seen any just watching evening news) and some comments online in response to articles about the poster.
    But I have yet to know anyone in person who is actually upset over it. Not one. 
    I just think by the way us snowflakes are being described and mocked at how easily we are offended, I'd at least know some in real life that exist. But I don't know a single one.
    I think the outrage is just in the media and no where else.
    Tester’s opponent seemed pretty outraged by it as evidenced by his comments. But hey, if you don’t see it, it doesn’t exist.
    Yes, because I know him personally.
    Read what I said. Other than the media, does anyone actually know anyone who is "outraged"?
    I don't. But apparently I'm wrong since you can point to one politician who is.

    No because you don't, outrage must not exist. And apparently I'm wrong because you haven't personally experienced it. Which is where you argue from on almost every point. If you don't personally experience it, its not significant, it doesn't matter or you're dismissive of the argument being made. We had two posters on here, while not claiming outrage, sure as hell acted like it was the worst thing they've ever encountered. Read the comments section on right leaning news sites. See the Faux news story. Read the comments made by repubes. It all reads like outrage to me. 
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 3,342
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    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Can we define "outrage"?
    I haven't really seen what I call outside, outside of comments on Fox. Maybe some think it is in poor taste, but that isn't the same as outrage.  Didn't even Tester say it was poor taste, so I think that is a reasonable reaction.
    Ignore some Fox broadcasters and there isn't much outrage that I've seen.
    Some “outrage” in comments on various news articles online across the spectrum 
    I've seen some of that. I just dont think that equates to the amount of outrage many are claiming they see.
    Yeah, I've seen a couple news reports outraged over it (but only when I go out of my way and search for it, haven't seen any just watching evening news) and some comments online in response to articles about the poster.
    But I have yet to know anyone in person who is actually upset over it. Not one. 
    I just think by the way us snowflakes are being described and mocked at how easily we are offended, I'd at least know some in real life that exist. But I don't know a single one.
    I think the outrage is just in the media and no where else.
    Tester’s opponent seemed pretty outraged by it as evidenced by his comments. But hey, if you don’t see it, it doesn’t exist.
    Yes, because I know him personally.
    Read what I said. Other than the media, does anyone actually know anyone who is "outraged"?
    I don't. But apparently I'm wrong since you can point to one politician who is.

    No because you don't, outrage must not exist. And apparently I'm wrong because you haven't personally experienced it. Which is where you argue from on almost every point. If you don't personally experience it, its not significant, it doesn't matter or you're dismissive of the argument being made. We had two posters on here, while not claiming outrage, sure as hell acted like it was the worst thing they've ever encountered. Read the comments section on right leaning news sites. See the Faux news story. Read the comments made by repubes. It all reads like outrage to me. 
    So the answer to my question of "do you personally know anyone outraged?" would be a "no" then, right?
    I'm not sure what your beef is, but you seem to attack anyone who has a different opinion than yours.
    I asked an honest question, made a fair point that others have already pointed out in other forums. This outrage seems to only be on the media or social media. PJ basically said the same thing and made a comment that she hasnt heard of it anywhere else or at work. If this level of outrage really existed, I would think it would come up. Its a fair question, who knows people who are actually outraged.
    You decide to turn that into an insult and attempt to belittle every comment I make. I have no idea where this comes from. But I've made the decision not to reply to you unless it was a direct comment towards me. Maybe its time for you to do the same.

    Getting ready to fly to Chicago, peace everyone.

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 18,974
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Can we define "outrage"?
    I haven't really seen what I call outside, outside of comments on Fox. Maybe some think it is in poor taste, but that isn't the same as outrage.  Didn't even Tester say it was poor taste, so I think that is a reasonable reaction.
    Ignore some Fox broadcasters and there isn't much outrage that I've seen.
    Some “outrage” in comments on various news articles online across the spectrum 
    I've seen some of that. I just dont think that equates to the amount of outrage many are claiming they see.
    Yeah, I've seen a couple news reports outraged over it (but only when I go out of my way and search for it, haven't seen any just watching evening news) and some comments online in response to articles about the poster.
    But I have yet to know anyone in person who is actually upset over it. Not one. 
    I just think by the way us snowflakes are being described and mocked at how easily we are offended, I'd at least know some in real life that exist. But I don't know a single one.
    I think the outrage is just in the media and no where else.
    Tester’s opponent seemed pretty outraged by it as evidenced by his comments. But hey, if you don’t see it, it doesn’t exist.
    Tester's opponent moved to Montana from Maryland sometime in the early 2000s.  I don't think the locals would like a transplant as their senior regardless of a poster.  

    Are you arguing that a red state that opposed Obama by 66,000 votes, 80,000 if you count the other candidates and Hillary by 101,000 or 139,00 if you count the other candidates, wouldn't elect a repube senator because he wasn't born and raised in the state and has only lived there for 15 or 16 years? That's crazy talk.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 7,102
    Speaks volumes that they didn’t show the poster itself. There’s so much wrong in one place in that link. 
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 9,519
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Can we define "outrage"?
    I haven't really seen what I call outside, outside of comments on Fox. Maybe some think it is in poor taste, but that isn't the same as outrage.  Didn't even Tester say it was poor taste, so I think that is a reasonable reaction.
    Ignore some Fox broadcasters and there isn't much outrage that I've seen.
    Some “outrage” in comments on various news articles online across the spectrum 
    I've seen some of that. I just dont think that equates to the amount of outrage many are claiming they see.
    Yeah, I've seen a couple news reports outraged over it (but only when I go out of my way and search for it, haven't seen any just watching evening news) and some comments online in response to articles about the poster.
    But I have yet to know anyone in person who is actually upset over it. Not one. 
    I just think by the way us snowflakes are being described and mocked at how easily we are offended, I'd at least know some in real life that exist. But I don't know a single one.
    I think the outrage is just in the media and no where else.
    Maybe. I have seen it pop up news feeds. I haven’t asked anyone about it, but then again I don’t live in Montana. 

    But when you say “just in the media”, that covers a lot. Some of the online articles have hundreds of comments, so obviously some people have thoughts on it. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 18,974
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Can we define "outrage"?
    I haven't really seen what I call outside, outside of comments on Fox. Maybe some think it is in poor taste, but that isn't the same as outrage.  Didn't even Tester say it was poor taste, so I think that is a reasonable reaction.
    Ignore some Fox broadcasters and there isn't much outrage that I've seen.
    Some “outrage” in comments on various news articles online across the spectrum 
    I've seen some of that. I just dont think that equates to the amount of outrage many are claiming they see.
    Yeah, I've seen a couple news reports outraged over it (but only when I go out of my way and search for it, haven't seen any just watching evening news) and some comments online in response to articles about the poster.
    But I have yet to know anyone in person who is actually upset over it. Not one. 
    I just think by the way us snowflakes are being described and mocked at how easily we are offended, I'd at least know some in real life that exist. But I don't know a single one.
    I think the outrage is just in the media and no where else.
    Tester’s opponent seemed pretty outraged by it as evidenced by his comments. But hey, if you don’t see it, it doesn’t exist.
    Yes, because I know him personally.
    Read what I said. Other than the media, does anyone actually know anyone who is "outraged"?
    I don't. But apparently I'm wrong since you can point to one politician who is.

    No because you don't, outrage must not exist. And apparently I'm wrong because you haven't personally experienced it. Which is where you argue from on almost every point. If you don't personally experience it, its not significant, it doesn't matter or you're dismissive of the argument being made. We had two posters on here, while not claiming outrage, sure as hell acted like it was the worst thing they've ever encountered. Read the comments section on right leaning news sites. See the Faux news story. Read the comments made by repubes. It all reads like outrage to me. 
    So the answer to my question of "do you personally know anyone outraged?" would be a "no" then, right?
    I'm not sure what your beef is, but you seem to attack anyone who has a different opinion than yours.
    I asked an honest question, made a fair point that others have already pointed out in other forums. This outrage seems to only be on the media or social media. PJ basically said the same thing and made a comment that she hasnt heard of it anywhere else or at work. If this level of outrage really existed, I would think it would come up. Its a fair question, who knows people who are actually outraged.
    You decide to turn that into an insult and attempt to belittle every comment I make. I have no idea where this comes from. But I've made the decision not to reply to you unless it was a direct comment towards me. Maybe its time for you to do the same.

    Getting ready to fly to Chicago, peace everyone.

    I’ll poll my right leaning and conservative friends for their reaction. I’ll send them the image and ask them to share their thoughts. Granted I don’t have a large sample size so I’ll ask a friend who has many Team trump Treason supporters as colleagues or friends to do the same. Then I’ll report back. However, outrage doesn’t have to be personally experienced for it to exist. It just has to be expressed, whether on social media or via other methods.

    Have a safe flight and enjoy the show. I’ll continue to respond to arguments I disagree with whether directed at me or not. Don’t try to quash my freedom of speech because you disagree with my opinion. Fair enough?
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 11,592
    MayDay10 said:
    I agree with the Canadian's last 3 posts.  I wish we had more Canadians living in the USA
    No thanks! 

    Im kidding .... kinda
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 11,592
    PJPOWER said:
    this poster does not depict anything violent. I'm not sure how anyone can make that claim. if tester was standing over trump with Negan's baseball bat, then sure, but all it shows is his skeleton. this is so not a big deal. 
    I agree.  I can see how some might see it as “distasteful” on a artistic personal preference level, but otherwise I believe it falls under the 1st Amendment rights category.  But I also agree with your previous comment about the outrage by thin skinned individuals if the tables were turned.  It’s just a fucking politically inspired concert poster at the end of the day, not a call for violence or threat or anything that would take it out of the realm of 1st Amendment protected rights.  
    It most likely wouldn’t be one that I would hang on my wall due to the political nature (I prefer to display more light hearted artwork in my house), but could see it being a cool “signs of the times” piece of artwork in the future.
    anyone on the left claiming there wouldn't be absolute outrage and condemnation if this was Obama is kidding themseleves. even if it somehow, miraculously, couldn't be misconstrued as racially motivated, the left would still go apeshit over it. 
    If Obama acted, spoke, tweeted and governed like Team Trump Treason, no. It’s not like Team Trump Treason and his Administration have been inclusive or concerned.
    not relevant.  
    If Team Trump Treason acted/governed more like a Bush or traditional repube, you’d see JA come up with this kind of poster?

    Yup. Cause the left over exaggerated their hate of republicans and now it’s bitting them in the ass.

    just like the republicans over exaggerated their hatred of obama.
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