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BS44325 said:rgambs said:Is dragon energy the same as very stable genius?
Because Kanye and Trump are definitely known for their stability lol
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BS44325 said:dignin said:BS44325 said:dignin said:
Wow, he really went after Kanye's free speech.
https://www.nme.com/news/music/pearl-jam-jeff-ament-interview-trump-kanye-west-2307764
What do you think of someone like Kanye West recently coming out in support of Trump?
“I love Kanye, I saw the last Kanye tour and I thought it was one of the greatest things ever, but then when he opened his mouth, I swung the other way. I think he’s just, you know, with the Kardashians and that whole thing. All of it is just a big publicity stunt. He’s been out of the news for a few months, so I think he’s looking to generate some. He says something about dragons, I don’t know, dragon energy, whatever that is.”
Does this affect your enjoyment of his music?
“I have a hard time separating the art from the artist. There’s certain artists where I don’t read their interviews because it really affects me enjoying their music. I wish I hadn’t opened that text that had the article about dragon energy and Donald Trump. It’s unfortunate.”
This has nothing to do with nuance, you are way out in foul territory here. Admit you have no point and try to argue a different point that makes some kind of sense.0 -
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BS44325 said:Halifax2TheMax said:BS44325 said:dignin said:
Wow, he really went after Kanye's free speech.
https://www.nme.com/news/music/pearl-jam-jeff-ament-interview-trump-kanye-west-2307764
What do you think of someone like Kanye West recently coming out in support of Trump?
“I love Kanye, I saw the last Kanye tour and I thought it was one of the greatest things ever, but then when he opened his mouth, I swung the other way. I think he’s just, you know, with the Kardashians and that whole thing. All of it is just a big publicity stunt. He’s been out of the news for a few months, so I think he’s looking to generate some. He says something about dragons, I don’t know, dragon energy, whatever that is.”
Does this affect your enjoyment of his music?
“I have a hard time separating the art from the artist. There’s certain artists where I don’t read their interviews because it really affects me enjoying their music. I wish I hadn’t opened that text that had the article about dragon energy and Donald Trump. It’s unfortunate.”
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BS44325 said:rgambs said:Is dragon energy the same as very stable genius?
Because Kanye and Trump are definitely known for their stability lol0 -
i agree with the person who said its just another ugly poster.0
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Halifax2TheMax said:Next thing you know, he'll want Jeff to embrace Ted Nugent, as an artist.
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PJ_Soul said:dignin said:BS44325 said:dignin said:
Wow, he really went after Kanye's free speech.
https://www.nme.com/news/music/pearl-jam-jeff-ament-interview-trump-kanye-west-2307764
What do you think of someone like Kanye West recently coming out in support of Trump?
“I love Kanye, I saw the last Kanye tour and I thought it was one of the greatest things ever, but then when he opened his mouth, I swung the other way. I think he’s just, you know, with the Kardashians and that whole thing. All of it is just a big publicity stunt. He’s been out of the news for a few months, so I think he’s looking to generate some. He says something about dragons, I don’t know, dragon energy, whatever that is.”
Does this affect your enjoyment of his music?
“I have a hard time separating the art from the artist. There’s certain artists where I don’t read their interviews because it really affects me enjoying their music. I wish I hadn’t opened that text that had the article about dragon energy and Donald Trump. It’s unfortunate.”
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Go Beavers said:BS44325 said:Go Beavers said:BS44325 said:Go Beavers said:BS44325 said:dignin said:"Love, from the First Amendment, Jeff Ament."
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rgambs said:BS44325 said:rgambs said:Is dragon energy the same as very stable genius?
Because Kanye and Trump are definitely known for their stability lol0 -
Wait a minute, did Jeff say Kanye didn't have the right to say what he said or just didn't like what he said?
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dignin said:BS44325 said:dignin said:BS44325 said:dignin said:
Wow, he really went after Kanye's free speech.
https://www.nme.com/news/music/pearl-jam-jeff-ament-interview-trump-kanye-west-2307764
What do you think of someone like Kanye West recently coming out in support of Trump?
“I love Kanye, I saw the last Kanye tour and I thought it was one of the greatest things ever, but then when he opened his mouth, I swung the other way. I think he’s just, you know, with the Kardashians and that whole thing. All of it is just a big publicity stunt. He’s been out of the news for a few months, so I think he’s looking to generate some. He says something about dragons, I don’t know, dragon energy, whatever that is.”
Does this affect your enjoyment of his music?
“I have a hard time separating the art from the artist. There’s certain artists where I don’t read their interviews because it really affects me enjoying their music. I wish I hadn’t opened that text that had the article about dragon energy and Donald Trump. It’s unfortunate.”
This has nothing to do with nuance, you are way out in foul territory here. Admit you have no point and try to argue a different point that makes some kind of sense.0 -
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BS44325 said:dignin said:BS44325 said:dignin said:BS44325 said:dignin said:
Wow, he really went after Kanye's free speech.
https://www.nme.com/news/music/pearl-jam-jeff-ament-interview-trump-kanye-west-2307764
What do you think of someone like Kanye West recently coming out in support of Trump?
“I love Kanye, I saw the last Kanye tour and I thought it was one of the greatest things ever, but then when he opened his mouth, I swung the other way. I think he’s just, you know, with the Kardashians and that whole thing. All of it is just a big publicity stunt. He’s been out of the news for a few months, so I think he’s looking to generate some. He says something about dragons, I don’t know, dragon energy, whatever that is.”
Does this affect your enjoyment of his music?
“I have a hard time separating the art from the artist. There’s certain artists where I don’t read their interviews because it really affects me enjoying their music. I wish I hadn’t opened that text that had the article about dragon energy and Donald Trump. It’s unfortunate.”
This has nothing to do with nuance, you are way out in foul territory here. Admit you have no point and try to argue a different point that makes some kind of sense.
You lost this point. Let it go.0 -
brianlux said:Wait a minute, did Jeff say Kanye didn't have the right to say what he said or just didn't like what he said?0
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BS44325 said:PJ_Soul said:dignin said:BS44325 said:dignin said:
Wow, he really went after Kanye's free speech.
https://www.nme.com/news/music/pearl-jam-jeff-ament-interview-trump-kanye-west-2307764
What do you think of someone like Kanye West recently coming out in support of Trump?
“I love Kanye, I saw the last Kanye tour and I thought it was one of the greatest things ever, but then when he opened his mouth, I swung the other way. I think he’s just, you know, with the Kardashians and that whole thing. All of it is just a big publicity stunt. He’s been out of the news for a few months, so I think he’s looking to generate some. He says something about dragons, I don’t know, dragon energy, whatever that is.”
Does this affect your enjoyment of his music?
“I have a hard time separating the art from the artist. There’s certain artists where I don’t read their interviews because it really affects me enjoying their music. I wish I hadn’t opened that text that had the article about dragon energy and Donald Trump. It’s unfortunate.”
But besides that, FWIW, I fucking loved it when the conservatives wanted to boycott the Dixie Chicks, lol, and I also love it if someone wants to boycott Kanye (I personally boycotted him years ago because he's a massive douche who I wouldn't want to give my money to, and I don't like that kind of music anyhow). I got a real kick out of people getting upset with Bu$hleaguer too. I enjoy it when people react to the actions of artists, particularly when they are freaking out about artistic content (which isn't the case with Kanye - his problem is his terrible personality and mental case/bullshit/attention whore political position). Boycotting doesn't impinge on anything besides what the people boycotting are choosing to enjoy or not. I definitely do not like how people seem so ignorant about art and its purpose, meaning, intent, etc, and many also seem to refuse to acknowledge the difference between free speech and hate speech, and also seem to refuse to acknowledge the definition of free speech altogether ... That is just frustrating to me. It reflects a widespread stupidity that makes me worry about the future in general, you know, in the idiocracy kind of way. But besides that, I don't give a flying fuck when people get worked up because they're offended by someone else's opinion or artwork, aside from the entertainment it provides.... Well, okay. I do also personally enjoy seeing the Trump supporters get upset, just because they're objectively assholes IMO.
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dignin said:BS44325 said:dignin said:BS44325 said:dignin said:BS44325 said:dignin said:
Wow, he really went after Kanye's free speech.
https://www.nme.com/news/music/pearl-jam-jeff-ament-interview-trump-kanye-west-2307764
What do you think of someone like Kanye West recently coming out in support of Trump?
“I love Kanye, I saw the last Kanye tour and I thought it was one of the greatest things ever, but then when he opened his mouth, I swung the other way. I think he’s just, you know, with the Kardashians and that whole thing. All of it is just a big publicity stunt. He’s been out of the news for a few months, so I think he’s looking to generate some. He says something about dragons, I don’t know, dragon energy, whatever that is.”
Does this affect your enjoyment of his music?
“I have a hard time separating the art from the artist. There’s certain artists where I don’t read their interviews because it really affects me enjoying their music. I wish I hadn’t opened that text that had the article about dragon energy and Donald Trump. It’s unfortunate.”
This has nothing to do with nuance, you are way out in foul territory here. Admit you have no point and try to argue a different point that makes some kind of sense.
You lost this point. Let it go.0 -
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PJ_Soul said:BS44325 said:PJ_Soul said:dignin said:BS44325 said:dignin said:
Wow, he really went after Kanye's free speech.
https://www.nme.com/news/music/pearl-jam-jeff-ament-interview-trump-kanye-west-2307764
What do you think of someone like Kanye West recently coming out in support of Trump?
“I love Kanye, I saw the last Kanye tour and I thought it was one of the greatest things ever, but then when he opened his mouth, I swung the other way. I think he’s just, you know, with the Kardashians and that whole thing. All of it is just a big publicity stunt. He’s been out of the news for a few months, so I think he’s looking to generate some. He says something about dragons, I don’t know, dragon energy, whatever that is.”
Does this affect your enjoyment of his music?
“I have a hard time separating the art from the artist. There’s certain artists where I don’t read their interviews because it really affects me enjoying their music. I wish I hadn’t opened that text that had the article about dragon energy and Donald Trump. It’s unfortunate.”
But besides that, FWIW, I fucking loved it when the conservatives wanted to boycott the Dixie Chicks, lol, and I also love it if someone wants to boycott Kanye (I personally boycotted him years ago because he's a massive douche who I wouldn't want to give my money to, and I don't like that kind of music anyhow). I got a real kick out of people getting upset with Bu$hleaguer too. I enjoy it when people react to the actions of artists, particularly when they are freaking out about artistic content (which isn't the case with Kanye - his problem is his terrible personality and mental case/bullshit/attention whore political position). Boycotting doesn't impinge on anything besides what the people boycotting are choosing to enjoy or not. I definitely do not like how people seem so ignorant about art and its purpose, meaning, intent, etc, and many also seem to refuse to acknowledge the difference between free speech and hate speech, and also seem to refuse to acknowledge the definition of free speech altogether ... That is just frustrating to me. It reflects a widespread stupidity that makes me worry about the future in general, you know, in the idiocracy kind of way. But besides that, I don't give a flying fuck when people get worked up because they're offended by someone else's opinion or artwork, aside from the entertainment it provides.... Well, okay. I do also personally enjoy seeing the Trump supporters get upset, just because they're objectively assholes IMO.0
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