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  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    unsung said:
    njnancy said:
    unsung said:
    Here is another fact, for every white man that rapes a black woman 30 black men rape white women.  30 to 1.

    I guess those white guys must just be racist.
    A guy who commits a rape may be many things. But most importantly they are disgusting criminals & cowards. Rape is a violent crime that has nothing to do with sex, simply power. 
    It just happens at a 30:1 rate when given the circumstances that I presented.  But white supremacy.
    Yeah, white supremacy - ain't seeing any of that going on in the world currently. Sheesh, what are the snowflakes talking about?
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Sheesh is right.  Nobody has said it doesn't exist but it certainly is not to blame for the woes of the world.
  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    unsung said:
    Sheesh is right.  Nobody has said it doesn't exist but it certainly is not to blame for the woes of the world.
    I guess that depends on what your sexuality, ethnicity and religion are. Other than that - white supremacy is a harmless blip.

    I'm still waiting for you to school me on the 30 to 1 comment.

  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    The information has already been given.  
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    But it is hard to take someone seriously when they challenge me to “school” them.  Are you 14?
  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    I know how to show statistics and back up my claims. We are all free to have different opinions but to just throw out ridiculous stats is irresponsible. 

    unsung said:
    The information has already been given.  
    Nope
    .unsung said:
    But it is hard to take someone seriously when they challenge me to “school” them.  Are you 14?
    You into little girls?
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,123
    my2hands said:
    Yeah, because I dont know the facts, but you do? You rank of elitism, brother

    And thanks for the data, from Canada. I'm more than familiar with it. 

    When unsung provides the data that blacks commit a largely disproportionate amount of crime its crickets, or blame whitey lol

    You guys make mountains out of molehills... are judgemental...  assuming... elitist... condescending... and preachy... im not your enemy, so back off... trust me, I'm speaking for more than myself on that one

    But I still like you, just thought I would keep it real for a second. Have a nice day
    Preach!!!  Love it and agree. 
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    njnancy said:
    I know how to show statistics and back up my claims. We are all free to have different opinions but to just throw out ridiculous stats is irresponsible. 

    unsung said:
    The information has already been given.  
    Nope
    .unsung said:
    But it is hard to take someone seriously when they challenge me to “school” them.  Are you 14?
    You into little girls?
    Disgusting.
  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    unsung said:
    njnancy said:
    I know how to show statistics and back up my claims. We are all free to have different opinions but to just throw out ridiculous stats is irresponsible. 

    unsung said:
    The information has already been given.  
    Nope
    .unsung said:
    But it is hard to take someone seriously when they challenge me to “school” them.  Are you 14?
    You into little girls?
    Disgusting.
    Bored
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    unsung said:
    njnancy said:
    Posting numbers that are so prone to be Idivisive is unfortunately what is driving this country apart. Other countries, esp. Russia, have seen the hot button topics and have jumped on them with bots and fake social media accounts that create memes and posts to create more polarization in America and they have gotten their monies worth. 

    White supremacists have been skewing false crime studies forever. It simply is not true. Most crimes are committed between people who know each other, and that means that it is largely of the same race. 

    Here is an article with some statistics: 

    https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/10/23/white-supremacists-favorite-myths-about-black-crime-rates-take-another-hit-bjs-study


    I really would like to know from where the 30 to 1 statistic originated. Seriously. But I know that my question will not be answered. 

    edited for grammar and misspelling. 
    Well you were given the data, and splc, really?  What's next snopes and fox news?

    Debunked years ago. Here's an article in Business Insider. For those who don't want to read the article, those "stats" aren't stats, they are population extrapolation from very small samples sizes, often less than 10 women, and the notations in the table state that they can't be used in the manner that you are using them.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/stupid-racist-meme-rape-black-men-2016-10
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    While we're at it, we could look at the stats on false convictions. Innocent blacks are 7 times more likely to be convicted of murder than innocent whites charged for the same crime. Black people serving time for sexual assault are 3.5 times more likely to be innocent than white people serving time for sexual assault. Finally, innocent black people are 12 times more likely to be wrongfully convicted for drug crimes than innocent white people. Good thing we have the Innocence Project. 

    I'm wondering how people can look at this data and not see what's plainly in front of them.
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    You’re right they do no wrong, aren’t responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime, are wrongfully in prison because of skin color, and their neighborhoods are the very epitome of safe living nearly the modern utopia.  It’s all white supremacy, again.  Damn govt reports, good info when you want them to be, terrible info when they don’t.  

    So please tell me, if the govt report on rapes is wrong what are the correct numbers?  If the govt reports on murder stats are wrong what are the correct numbers?
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    I wonder how many people who were wrongfully convicted of murder or sexual assault and spent decades in prison thought it was a molehill?Maybe we should ask Anthony Wright, who was wrongfully convicted of sexual assault and spent more than 25 years in prison after being framed by police. Or John Bunn. Or Aaron Salter. Or....
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,123
    oroftenreading said:
    I wonder how many people who were wrongfully convicted of murder or sexual assault and spent decades in prison thought it was a molehill?Maybe we should ask Anthony Wright, who was wrongfully convicted of sexual assault and spent more than 25 years in prison after being framed by police. Or John Bunn. Or Aaron Salter. Or....
    The west Memphis three?
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    mcgruff10 said:
    oroftenreading said:
    I wonder how many people who were wrongfully convicted of murder or sexual assault and spent decades in prison thought it was a molehill?Maybe we should ask Anthony Wright, who was wrongfully convicted of sexual assault and spent more than 25 years in prison after being framed by police. Or John Bunn. Or Aaron Salter. Or....
    The west Memphis three?
    How about the Central Park Five? Five > three.

    If your point is that they're white, well..... point to anything in my posts that say that only black people get wrongfully convicted. However, with wrongful conviction rates of between 3.5 and 12 for a range of crimes, we're going to run out of wrongfully convicted white people first if we keep this up. 
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    oftenreading said:
    I wonder how many people who were wrongfully convicted of murder or sexual assault and spent decades in prison thought it was a molehill?Maybe we should ask Anthony Wright, who was wrongfully convicted of sexual assault and spent more than 25 years in prison after being framed by police. Or John Bunn. Or Aaron Salter. Or....
    I thought we are supposed to believe all women.  The left’s near weekly changing narrative surely confuses me.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    When someone is familiar with the "data", coupled that with actual real world experience, it makes it that much more valuable

    I'm not going to be lectured about race and the black experience by a white guy and a white Canadian lol... especially in the way you choose to lecture, its old... you guys do the same thing to anybody that offers a different opinion or viewpoint, you jump down their throat and try to act as though you're the smartest person in the room... you also seem to take it personally when someone disagrees with you or has a different opinion and make it personal 

    So now that you are armed with all of the data, what are you doing about it to help? 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,123
    my2hands said:
    When someone is familiar with the "data", coupled that with actual real world experience, it makes it that much more valuable

    I'm not going to be lectured about race and the black experience by a white guy and a white Canadian lol... especially in the way you choose to lecture, its old... you guys do the same thing to anybody that offers a different opinion or viewpoint, you jump down their throat and try to act as though you're the smartest person in the room... you also seem to take it personally when someone disagrees with you or has a different opinion and make it personal 

    So now that you are armed with all of the data, what are you doing about it to help? 
    All excellent points. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,258
    my2hands said:
    When someone is familiar with the "data", coupled that with actual real world experience, it makes it that much more valuable

    I'm not going to be lectured about race and the black experience by a white guy and a white Canadian lol... especially in the way you choose to lecture, its old... you guys do the same thing to anybody that offers a different opinion or viewpoint, you jump down their throat and try to act as though you're the smartest person in the room... you also seem to take it personally when someone disagrees with you or has a different opinion and make it personal 

    So now that you are armed with all of the data, what are you doing about it to help? 
    Says the guy calling posters names and refusing to acknowledge facts but rather “conspiracies.” Show me where I’ve taken anything posted “personally.” If you don’t want your view point to be challenged, post or debate on a site full of like minded individuals. Bunch of snowflakes around these parts.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    edited October 2018
    unsung said:
    You’re right they do no wrong, aren’t responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime, are wrongfully in prison because of skin color, and their neighborhoods are the very epitome of safe living nearly the modern utopia.  It’s all white supremacy, again.  Damn govt reports, good info when you want them to be, terrible info when they don’t.  

    So please tell me, if the govt report on rapes is wrong what are the correct numbers?  If the govt reports on murder stats are wrong what are the correct numbers?
    You haven’t provided the “government report” on rapes. How can we determine if it’s wrong without seeing whether it validates what you’ve claimed?
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