*** London, UK Fanviews Here 7/17/18 ***

mcbetterman

Olivavu said:

jrd said:

kevtic said:

Suziemay said:

kevtic said:

Anyone got a spare ticket stub from last night. Never saw anyone handing tickets out after show. 

They were very stealth about it. Being handed out on the floor, I ran back in to get one after asking around.

I don't know why they take them off you in the first place. 

Not sure why this annoys me so much but it really does.

I asked why at the first London show and was told "It's because we need to count them" which sounds like bullsh*t to me, as if they're going to count them all while the show's going on and then hand them out afterwards.

I asked again last night and was told "because it's policy" which means nothing and I'd like to know WHY this is the 'policy'.

Doesn't every ticket have a bar code which they scan so tickets can't be re-used? So you automatically count them via the scanning process and surely that's done anyway!? Saw Paul Simon at Hyde Park last Sunday; same process there of bag check, body scanner, then ticket scan and... you just keep the whole ticket.

Might just email the O2 to see if I can get some sort of explanation. Or I might not because it's probably their policy not to discuss policies...

Anyway, brilliant show, enjoyed it immensely. Sorry to hear about the trouble further forward but had no problems where we were, Mike's side but a few rows in front of the sound desk so well back from the idiots by the sound of it.

Totally forgot to get a ticket at the end so if anyone has a spare...

I think they take them off the GA so that they can't be given to people in seats to try and get down and in that way, but they're scanned so you'd think not based on that.

I always make sure I find someone to grab one after - and I always get them to give me a 10c stub as well.

You would think that bar code reader would automatically count them?  All  they need to do is just tear off the end of the ticket there and then and just give you ticket back, think that's where they are trying to save time.  I've emailed the O2 to see if they can send me a ticket as I didn't get one after though show due to running out of them which has worked on the few other occasions this has happened.

Olivavu

mcbetterman said:

Olivavu said:

jrd said:

kevtic said:

Suziemay said:

kevtic said:

Anyone got a spare ticket stub from last night. Never saw anyone handing tickets out after show. 

They were very stealth about it. Being handed out on the floor, I ran back in to get one after asking around.

I don't know why they take them off you in the first place. 

Not sure why this annoys me so much but it really does.

I asked why at the first London show and was told "It's because we need to count them" which sounds like bullsh*t to me, as if they're going to count them all while the show's going on and then hand them out afterwards.

I asked again last night and was told "because it's policy" which means nothing and I'd like to know WHY this is the 'policy'.

Doesn't every ticket have a bar code which they scan so tickets can't be re-used? So you automatically count them via the scanning process and surely that's done anyway!? Saw Paul Simon at Hyde Park last Sunday; same process there of bag check, body scanner, then ticket scan and... you just keep the whole ticket.

Might just email the O2 to see if I can get some sort of explanation. Or I might not because it's probably their policy not to discuss policies...

Anyway, brilliant show, enjoyed it immensely. Sorry to hear about the trouble further forward but had no problems where we were, Mike's side but a few rows in front of the sound desk so well back from the idiots by the sound of it.

Totally forgot to get a ticket at the end so if anyone has a spare...

I think they take them off the GA so that they can't be given to people in seats to try and get down and in that way, but they're scanned so you'd think not based on that.

I always make sure I find someone to grab one after - and I always get them to give me a 10c stub as well.

You would think that bar code reader would automatically count them?  All  they need to do is just tear off the end of the ticket there and then and just give you ticket back, think that's where they are trying to save time.  I've emailed the O2 to see if they can send me a ticket as I didn't get one after though show due to running out of them which has worked on the few other occasions this has happened.

It really annoys me and the staff taking the tickets are clearly sick of being asked about it. 

They run out because people who printed their etickets at home take them on the way out, which leaves them short.

It's just an awful system and this is the only place I've seen it used. 

And I just noticed that I've been to almost all the PJ gigs you have!

alexross42

Had a reply from O2 customer services email (customerservices@theo2.co.uk) this morning advising that they would send me tickets via post - just had to confirm how many I had and my address

JimNastics

Strange about the tickets, they just scanned ours and gave them back (seats block 112). Didn't even bother tearing off the barcode. Guessing they just do it for GA standing?

mcbetterman

JimNastics said:

Strange about the tickets, they just scanned ours and gave them back (seats block 112). Didn't even bother tearing off the barcode. Guessing they just do it for GA standing?

It's so you cant move to better seats in your section. First gig I went to when they took my ticket off me was Guns n Roses & Weezer in 2002 at the London Arena.  I never knew at the time that you got your ticket back after the show and sadly I don't have anything other than memory's of a thinner Axl and a Guitarist with a KFC Bucket on his head.

texasistheSTEVEN

js261067 said:

All of these stories and yet my blood still boils at the sight of some bellend wearing a Fedora on the Rail at London 1 lol

M'lady

fizzyade

Somebody had the same seat number on their ticket as me, clearly there are bugs in the resale system, no idea how you manage to sell the same seat twice.  Happened to a few folks around us as well.

Davegavin

MR26603 said:

pashapasaman said:

nicknyr15 said:

Bella said:

pashapasaman said:

this setlist reminds me of live at the garden in 2003
green disease, I am mine, save you, you are
crazy mary, breath
plus baba and ledbetter at the end
one of my greatest show
but some rude people at GA kinda ruin the night for me

There were a few rude people beside us, must be a British thing

I don’t do GA at any shows anymore. People have become intolerable for me. Maybe I’m getting old but my last 3 GA shows with various bands have almost been ruined by the people around me. 

what's frustrating is that these people are not 10c member (no 10c wristband)
they didn't sing along
this is what happens when you mix up 10c GA and the general public

I like the idea of a mixed GA. With this you make sure that everybody has a chance to get closer to the stage, normal crowd and those people from the 10C who did not win a GA ticket at the lottery. I don't want us 10C people to be treated better than others. The early entrance thing is enough. And yes, some people are to old for GA. That's why there are seats.

The show was beyond amazing but I can't say I thoroughly enjoyed it unfortunately.
I don't want to be anywhere but up front, rocking out, but with common bloody courtesy of others around me. I love to rock out, by that I mean jumping up and down, not pushing and shoving others.
I queued for hours and reluctantly didn't drink so I could get to the rail and stay there with needing toilet.
The perfectly good reason for 10c to be separated is because some of us put hours/days to get close.
I came from France and got there as early as I could and there were about 50 people ahead of me, but just when security moved us in so many disrespectful Dick heads just jump the line and after hours of queueing I'm now maybe 200 people back.
That all said I was happy to be 4 people from rail with nice people around me.
Then the show starts and there were so many none 10c members pushing, crushing there way through.
Also, so many moshing and throwing each other so hard that we pretty much missed some of my favourite songs as we were so focused on not falling.
After just 3/4 songs I saw woman, who had been right up the front of the queue, maybe queued over night, having to get pulled out. So gutted for her and those others.
Also, when Ed is speaking or playing some slow songs these twats were just messing and falling around the place and we couldnt hear Eddie.
Such bullshit! Look, I might sound like an old hit, I'm not, I'm 40 and love a good time, but I'm considerate.
Look, do what you want to do, stay outside drinking all day, but have some considération for others.
I expect such behaviour from teenagers, like myself back in the day I was guilty of such behaviour along with nearly all the crowd, but guys as old às 50+ were so hammered and pissing off everyone around him.
I've waited 16 shows to here my favourite 'Breath' , and not only hearing it but how Eddie sang it, he was looking right at us, our area, with such intent in his eyes, voice and hands, to try calm the fucking idiots ruining it for so many around us.
I have never wanted to have a seated ticket before but after that experience, if 10c isn't separated then I'll consider rocking at my seat.
Jesus, if you like PJ enough you should appreciate what they're about. You could see the worry on Eddie's face for many songs.
Ah sorry for the rant, wanted to post something since but only wanted positive thoughts but glad to see others agree, and very sorry for those who had to get pulled out.
And fucking shame on the way the security handled it.
Let's get the complaints in!
Hey lastly, this was the only show I attended without separated 10c, why is that the case at this venue?! 
Rant over. 

Bella

There should be a 10c section at every show. When there is, there’s a better vibe. In Padova, Prague and Rome they worked perfectly. There is only bother when the GA is a free for all.

lastexitlondon

Davegavin said:well said dave

MR26603 said:

pashapasaman said:

nicknyr15 said:

Bella said:

pashapasaman said:

this setlist reminds me of live at the garden in 2003
green disease, I am mine, save you, you are
crazy mary, breath
plus baba and ledbetter at the end
one of my greatest show
but some rude people at GA kinda ruin the night for me

There were a few rude people beside us, must be a British thing

I don’t do GA at any shows anymore. People have become intolerable for me. Maybe I’m getting old but my last 3 GA shows with various bands have almost been ruined by the people around me. 

what's frustrating is that these people are not 10c member (no 10c wristband)
they didn't sing along
this is what happens when you mix up 10c GA and the general public

I like the idea of a mixed GA. With this you make sure that everybody has a chance to get closer to the stage, normal crowd and those people from the 10C who did not win a GA ticket at the lottery. I don't want us 10C people to be treated better than others. The early entrance thing is enough. And yes, some people are to old for GA. That's why there are seats.

The show was beyond amazing but I can't say I thoroughly enjoyed it unfortunately.
I don't want to be anywhere but up front, rocking out, but with common bloody courtesy of others around me. I love to rock out, by that I mean jumping up and down, not pushing and shoving others.
I queued for hours and reluctantly didn't drink so I could get to the rail and stay there with needing toilet.
The perfectly good reason for 10c to be separated is because some of us put hours/days to get close.
I came from France and got there as early as I could and there were about 50 people ahead of me, but just when security moved us in so many disrespectful Dick heads just jump the line and after hours of queueing I'm now maybe 200 people back.
That all said I was happy to be 4 people from rail with nice people around me.
Then the show starts and there were so many none 10c members pushing, crushing there way through.
Also, so many moshing and throwing each other so hard that we pretty much missed some of my favourite songs as we were so focused on not falling.
After just 3/4 songs I saw woman, who had been right up the front of the queue, maybe queued over night, having to get pulled out. So gutted for her and those others.
Also, when Ed is speaking or playing some slow songs these twats were just messing and falling around the place and we couldnt hear Eddie.
Such bullshit! Look, I might sound like an old hit, I'm not, I'm 40 and love a good time, but I'm considerate.
Look, do what you want to do, stay outside drinking all day, but have some considération for others.
I expect such behaviour from teenagers, like myself back in the day I was guilty of such behaviour along with nearly all the crowd, but guys as old às 50+ were so hammered and pissing off everyone around him.
I've waited 16 shows to here my favourite 'Breath' , and not only hearing it but how Eddie sang it, he was looking right at us, our area, with such intent in his eyes, voice and hands, to try calm the fucking idiots ruining it for so many around us.
I have never wanted to have a seated ticket before but after that experience, if 10c isn't separated then I'll consider rocking at my seat.
Jesus, if you like PJ enough you should appreciate what they're about. You could see the worry on Eddie's face for many songs.
Ah sorry for the rant, wanted to post something since but only wanted positive thoughts but glad to see others agree, and very sorry for those who had to get pulled out.
And fucking shame on the way the security handled it.
Let's get the complaints in!
Hey lastly, this was the only show I attended without separated 10c, why is that the case at this venue?! 
Rant over. 

Well said dave

Spiritual_Chaos

Don't really know what to write in these kinds of thread.

But it was great and I made Matt C (and Eddie) laugh.

Spiritual_Chaos

MR26603 said:

lastexitlondon said:

Terrible  crowd and terrible venue security 

For me the crowd was amazing in every way.

How can one say that the crowd was amazing when Eddie himself had to ask to the crowd to take three steps back...

Spiritual_Chaos

lastexitlondon said:

Thanks for all.the kind words everyone
 All true

Sorry for your experience.

Cool of you to say hello to me

Magic_J

Spiritual_Chaos said:

MR26603 said:

lastexitlondon said:

Terrible  crowd and terrible venue security 

For me the crowd was amazing in every way.

How can one say that the crowd was amazing when Eddie himself had to ask to the crowd to take three steps back...

It was insane seeing a whole GA area taking steps back from where we were up on the 400s. I wouldn’t have wanted to be in that pit area myself and it was clear Ed and the band weren’t happy with how rough it was getting. We could see the three circles and every now and then there would be a big space where it looked like maybe someone fell? But it does sound like a little way away from the three main surging areas it was a little calmer. 

Spiritual_Chaos

mcbetterman said:

The crowd seemed pretty friendly where i was stood last night, just to right of centre (Stones side) and not too far out.  The only time if felt uncomfortable was when Eddie asked us all to take 3 steps back.  We moved back only for everyone behind us not to move.  Not sure the early entry idea works as you get in there nice and early only for people to come in later and try to push through.  Not that happened last night but have experienced it previous.  Would be good to have an enclosed area at the from for 10c members to stop this happening.  My only moan was what happened to all the ticket stubs?  Was told all gone when we left but you can only take 1 ticket stub if you have a standing wristband and loads of people still making there way out after me so not sure how that would be.  Amazing show though.

People push at every concert where there is GA, or try to get closer or seeing an empty spot and moving.

Tenclub-fans do not have a "special area", they have the chance to pick a spot beforehand in the pit that is shared with everyone.

People shouldn't push or force themselves to the front or destroy thee experience for others, but it happens at every concert and being a tenclub member you get early entry - not "a guaranteed spot". So it works as good as it was meant too.

And Wembley 2007 had only tenclubbers on the floor, I bet you people pushed through there also (but to a lesser extent).

I think the problem in London must have been that it was less tenclubbers there than usual, so more regular GA in front. A big tenclub area I guess works as "padding" between the stage and the GA because tenclubbers are a bit more respectful to each other.

lastexitlondon

Spiritual_Chaos said:

lastexitlondon said:

Thanks for all.the kind words everyone
 All true

Sorry for your experience.

Cool of you to say hello to me

Cool sign
 For a cool guy . From a cool guy.
Pushing per say wasn't  the issue. It was assholes  surging through  . We need a 10c barrier.  I explained it to my girls that as 1500 10c tickets went to general that meant exactly  as you said no buffer of like minded people. Normally 3000 mainly good soul act different  . Not all pissed and aggressive like a sex pistols gig  from the 70s.

RC74272

^ That's a good point about the 10c "buffer" zone and would explain why 10c members at the front of the rail might have got taken by surprise by the intensity of the London pit. 

I recall 10c put 1000 GA tickets on sale fairly late last week? There was definitely a lot of more casual fans there - I was in the seats in block 112 and the reaction to the deeper cuts (like Fatal) was pretty muted. 

lastexitlondon

It was also the local security  that totally ruined it from the outset  at the metal detector . Someone else already stated but we were in line from 7.30am. People were allowed to surge through the line at that spot and take the place of well over 100 people that had queued all day. I will blame 10c bloke ty for this also as I alerted him to it and he said my line my rules all smug like he was someone important
 His moment of power I guess.

JimNastics

RC74272 said:

^ That's a good point about the 10c "buffer" zone and would explain why 10c members at the front of the rail might have got taken by surprise by the intensity of the London pit. 

I recall 10c put 1000 GA tickets on sale fairly late last week? There was definitely a lot of more casual fans there - I was in the seats in block 112 and the reaction to the deeper cuts (like Fatal) was pretty muted. 

I had one guy in the row in front of me in 112 who just got up and left after 3 songs Very odd. There must have been loads of people in the o2 that night who just took a punt when the excellent tickets went back on sale, either as casual fans or just interested music fans. But in general, 112 was a cool chilled out vibe where we were in row J, no worries.

xnothingmanx

JimNastics said:

RC74272 said:

^ That's a good point about the 10c "buffer" zone and would explain why 10c members at the front of the rail might have got taken by surprise by the intensity of the London pit. 

I recall 10c put 1000 GA tickets on sale fairly late last week? There was definitely a lot of more casual fans there - I was in the seats in block 112 and the reaction to the deeper cuts (like Fatal) was pretty muted. 

I had one guy in the row in front of me in 112 who just got up and left after 3 songs Very odd. There must have been loads of people in the o2 that night who just took a punt when the excellent tickets went back on sale, either as casual fans or just interested music fans. But in general, 112 was a cool chilled out vibe where we were in row J, no worries.

4 people in front of us in row G left after the first set. Weird. Loads of casual fans in block 112. Didn’t spoil my night in anyway, most around me were standing and singing for most songs.