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Eh, I've seen Weezer and Queens of the Stone Age at Wembley in recent years and both easily topped anything I've seen at the O2 in a long time. There's something to be said for not queuing for ages to get into the venue and not being hassled by staff when you're there."Hey Eddie, great show-- fuck you!"
PJ - London 25/6/10, Manchester 20/6/12 + 21/6/12, Isle of Wight 23/6/12, Seattle 6/12/13, Leeds 8/7/14, Milton Keynes 11/7/14, Boston 5/8/16 + 7/8/16
Ed - London 31/7/12, Amsterdam 27/5/17 + 30/5/17, London 6/6/17 + 7/6/170 -
I wouldnt knock the 02 as a venue though, despite its size which caters for a lot of fans (always a good thing to save disappointed fans), it is an amazing venue for sound, and facilities.0
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The sound was excellent on Tuesday night. Poorest sound of the shows I went to this time was Berlin Waldbuhne.Arnhem'06 Paris'06 Wembley'07 Manchester'09 Dublin'10 Belfast '10 Manchester1 '12 Manchester2 '12 Stockholm '12 Vancouver '13
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We were perfectly placed in Berlin too. Centre stage, in font of VIP seating area. Great show as usual, but distorted sound.Arnhem'06 Paris'06 Wembley'07 Manchester'09 Dublin'10 Belfast '10 Manchester1 '12 Manchester2 '12 Stockholm '12 Vancouver '13
Vienna Berlin Stockholm Leeds Milton Keynes '14 Philly 2 nights '16 MSG 2 nights '16 EV Dublin '17 Amsterdam 1
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pdalowsky said:I wouldnt knock the 02 as a venue though, despite its size which caters for a lot of fans (always a good thing to save disappointed fans), it is an amazing venue for sound, and facilities."Hey Eddie, great show-- fuck you!"
PJ - London 25/6/10, Manchester 20/6/12 + 21/6/12, Isle of Wight 23/6/12, Seattle 6/12/13, Leeds 8/7/14, Milton Keynes 11/7/14, Boston 5/8/16 + 7/8/16
Ed - London 31/7/12, Amsterdam 27/5/17 + 30/5/17, London 6/6/17 + 7/6/170 -
RC74272 said:jrd said:Olivavu said:jrd said:I don't know why they take them off you in the first place.Not sure why this annoys me so much but it really does.I asked why at the first London show and was told "It's because we need to count them" which sounds like bullsh*t to me, as if they're going to count them all while the show's going on and then hand them out afterwards.I asked again last night and was told "because it's policy" which means nothing and I'd like to know WHY this is the 'policy'.Doesn't every ticket have a bar code which they scan so tickets can't be re-used? So you automatically count them via the scanning process and surely that's done anyway!? Saw Paul Simon at Hyde Park last Sunday; same process there of bag check, body scanner, then ticket scan and... you just keep the whole ticket.Might just email the O2 to see if I can get some sort of explanation. Or I might not because it's probably their policy not to discuss policies...Anyway, brilliant show, enjoyed it immensely. Sorry to hear about the trouble further forward but had no problems where we were, Mike's side but a few rows in front of the sound desk so well back from the idiots by the sound of it.Totally forgot to get a ticket at the end so if anyone has a spare...
I think they take them off the GA so that they can't be given to people in seats to try and get down and in that way, but they're scanned so you'd think not based on that.
I always make sure I find someone to grab one after - and I always get them to give me a 10c stub as well.
I also asked why they take the tickets off you in the first place and she saidIt is venue policy to swap tickets for wristbands to prevent loss of ticketsSo that's the reason.
and as a result, no entry to the standing floor. Standing customers are also
allowed on to the level one concourse to purchase food and drink so having
an easily detectable wristband helps staff members who are manning that
entry point provide a swift in and out operation stopping those who may be
seated on level one from accessing the standing floor.
But why can't I get a wristband AND keep my ticket, assuming that once it's been scanned it can't be used again by anyone else to try and get on to the floor...?
someone could come down from the nosebleed seats, grab a ticket stub lost on the floor outside the GA doors and use that to “upgrade” to standing
safety concerns being what they are the venue is limiting those “upgrading” as described
Oh yeah? Well, I've had about enough of morons and halfwits, dolts, dunces, dullards and dumbbells - and you chowderhead yokel, you blithering hayseed, you - you've had enough of me?0 -
I thought the sound at o2 in '09 was much better than this year. Funnily enough, my memory of Leeds was of particularly poor sound quality, but I was up in the gods.
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js261067 said:Olivavu said:I would love it if they sacked off playing arena shows in England and just did two nights at Brixton for 10c members only.
How much better would that be?Wembley 2000 • Reading 2006 • Paris 2006 • Wembley 2007 • Shepherds Bush 2009 • Manchester 2009 • O2 Arena 2009 • Hyde Park 2010 • Arras 2010 • Manchester 2012 • Manchester II 2012 • Leeds 2014 • Milton Keynes 2014 • Amsterdam 2018 • Amsterdam II 2018 • London 2018 • London II 2018 • Hyde Park II 2022
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Electro_UK said:The whole 10 Club show the night before an arena show thing was a good idea. I'd love to have a chance to see that stuff.
When it comes to London, though, I wish they'd go back to playing Wembley Arena. I know O2 holds more people but that building is a fucking corporate void, man.
That's ultimately why Leeds 2014 was a better show than this week's gig for me. The size and shape of the venue created an intimacy that you just can't get in the O2.
I enjoyed the show at Shepherds Bush in 2009, but missed out on tickets for the Astoria in 2006. Which I was, and still am, absolutely gutted about.Wembley 2000 • Reading 2006 • Paris 2006 • Wembley 2007 • Shepherds Bush 2009 • Manchester 2009 • O2 Arena 2009 • Hyde Park 2010 • Arras 2010 • Manchester 2012 • Manchester II 2012 • Leeds 2014 • Milton Keynes 2014 • Amsterdam 2018 • Amsterdam II 2018 • London 2018 • London II 2018 • Hyde Park II 2022
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pdalowsky said:I wouldnt knock the 02 as a venue though, despite its size which caters for a lot of fans (always a good thing to save disappointed fans), it is an amazing venue for sound, and facilities.Wembley 2000 • Reading 2006 • Paris 2006 • Wembley 2007 • Shepherds Bush 2009 • Manchester 2009 • O2 Arena 2009 • Hyde Park 2010 • Arras 2010 • Manchester 2012 • Manchester II 2012 • Leeds 2014 • Milton Keynes 2014 • Amsterdam 2018 • Amsterdam II 2018 • London 2018 • London II 2018 • Hyde Park II 2022
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Electro_UK said:Eh, I've seen Weezer and Queens of the Stone Age at Wembley in recent years and both easily topped anything I've seen at the O2 in a long time. There's something to be said for not queuing for ages to get into the venue and not being hassled by staff when you're there.Wembley 2000 • Reading 2006 • Paris 2006 • Wembley 2007 • Shepherds Bush 2009 • Manchester 2009 • O2 Arena 2009 • Hyde Park 2010 • Arras 2010 • Manchester 2012 • Manchester II 2012 • Leeds 2014 • Milton Keynes 2014 • Amsterdam 2018 • Amsterdam II 2018 • London 2018 • London II 2018 • Hyde Park II 2022
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jrd said:RC74272 said:jrd said:Olivavu said:jrd said:I don't know why they take them off you in the first place.Not sure why this annoys me so much but it really does.I asked why at the first London show and was told "It's because we need to count them" which sounds like bullsh*t to me, as if they're going to count them all while the show's going on and then hand them out afterwards.I asked again last night and was told "because it's policy" which means nothing and I'd like to know WHY this is the 'policy'.Doesn't every ticket have a bar code which they scan so tickets can't be re-used? So you automatically count them via the scanning process and surely that's done anyway!? Saw Paul Simon at Hyde Park last Sunday; same process there of bag check, body scanner, then ticket scan and... you just keep the whole ticket.Might just email the O2 to see if I can get some sort of explanation. Or I might not because it's probably their policy not to discuss policies...Anyway, brilliant show, enjoyed it immensely. Sorry to hear about the trouble further forward but had no problems where we were, Mike's side but a few rows in front of the sound desk so well back from the idiots by the sound of it.Totally forgot to get a ticket at the end so if anyone has a spare...
I think they take them off the GA so that they can't be given to people in seats to try and get down and in that way, but they're scanned so you'd think not based on that.
I always make sure I find someone to grab one after - and I always get them to give me a 10c stub as well.
I also asked why they take the tickets off you in the first place and she saidIt is venue policy to swap tickets for wristbands to prevent loss of ticketsSo that's the reason.
and as a result, no entry to the standing floor. Standing customers are also
allowed on to the level one concourse to purchase food and drink so having
an easily detectable wristband helps staff members who are manning that
entry point provide a swift in and out operation stopping those who may be
seated on level one from accessing the standing floor.
But why can't I get a wristband AND keep my ticket, assuming that once it's been scanned it can't be used again by anyone else to try and get on to the floor...?
someone could come down from the nosebleed seats, grab a ticket stub lost on the floor outside the GA doors and use that to “upgrade” to standing
safety concerns being what they are the venue is limiting those “upgrading” as described
At least they’re posting you one!0 -
Some one please post an image of a ticket on here, photo or scanthanks'06 Milan
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@milan I have whatsapped you.
this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -0 -
I loved it on Tuesday night. I think the O2 is a great venue. Great sound, good facilities and as long as you're not up in the gods you have a pretty close up view wherever you are. Sound was amazing. Set list was stellar. Interaction of band to fans was bestI have ever seen in London (as his been all tour actually). For me and my Mrs, it was one of the best shows we have ever seen. We were lucky to be in Block 112 in 10c seats as we are just too small and too close to 50 to stand for hours now...!0
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I was 101 mikes side. The flossing dancing done by 2 little people as the band took the stage was so much fun. Just at the side of the stage. Loved it
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lastexitlondon said:I agree Wembley has awful sound
It's just loud with no quality
I always found there was a bad echo and reverberation/sound bouncing around, especially bass, whenever I went to gigs there and assume it's because of this massive space under the floor. I think it has improved since the refurbishment but still haven't enjoyed the sound there all that much. I do think it's a more intimate space compared to the O2 but the sound problems mean I don't favour it for gigs. That's part of the problem with London venues, a lot of old (often concrete) venues that were not designed for music performances. Earls Court was always bad for sound too. I think the O2 is a reasonable compromise for sound, capacity (I assume this is the primary reason PJ use it over Wembley now), facilities etc. but I wish London had a better medium-sized venue designed for music. I'm sure I read somewhere that a lot of work went into making the sound good at the O2 when they converted it after being the Millennium Dome but I still don't think it's as good as Ziggo in Amsterdam or others I've been to.
I think we're pretty lucky though, the PJ crew are brilliant and in recent years the sounds at their shows has been impressive - much better than many (presumably deaf) sound engineers at other band's shows I've been to where they seem to think volume is the answer to everything even if that results in crazy distortion and a painful experience all around. Great band, great crew, so grateful!
Brixton is my favourite London venue and would love a PJ residency there but I guess is just too small these days (agree with the other comment that getting tickets would be pretty tough).
My 2 cents on the venues thrown in, since we're in a fan view thread I'll just add that I thought the show the other night was excellent, really great way to end the tour, loved it and looking forward to the bootleg!Finsbury Park '92 | Brixton 1 '93 | Wembley 2 '96 | Wembley 1&2 '00 | Reading, Paris '06 | Munich, Wembley '07 | Shepherds Bush, Berlin, Manchester, London '09 | Dublin, Belfast, Hyde Park '10 | Manchester 1&2, Amsterdam 1, Copenhagen, Atlanta '12 | Brooklyn 2, Philly 1&2, LA 1&2 '13 | Amsterdam 1&2, Vienna, Berlin '14 | Central Park, Santiago, Sao Paulo, Belo Horizonte, Rio de Janeiro, Mexico City '15 | Quebec, Ottawa, Toronto 1&2, Wrigley 1&2 '16 | London 1, Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Barcelona, Madrid, London 2, Fenway 2 '18 | Oakland 1&2, Berlin, Zurich, Frankfurt, Copenhagen, London 1&2, Budapest, Krakow, Amsterdam '22 | St. Paul 1&2, Chicago 1&2 '23 |0 -
i wish i wish i wish i wish, i guess it never stops0 -
I'm speechless , I had the time of my life on the rail. I'm sorry some people had a shitty time, especially @lastexitlondon0
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I gave up GA quite a while ago. Too many bad experiences. Sucks that it got dangerous in there.0
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