Texas shooting, Our fault.

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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    mcgruff10 said:
    Its been confirmed that a shotgun and a revolver were used.  Is it now time for all of us to agree that there is a fundamental breakdown that we have all all created one way or another verses banning a certain type of gun?  
    I do agree with you on the left leaning media and anti-gunners constantly and obsessively talking about banning the ar-15 and the now catch phrase "weapons of war".   It's odd how this particular shooting isn't making the facebook rounds like parkland; maybe because of the weapon used?
    You stated that AR and similar weapons are designed for only killing and should not be available... did you change your opinion?
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,642
    my2hands said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Its been confirmed that a shotgun and a revolver were used.  Is it now time for all of us to agree that there is a fundamental breakdown that we have all all created one way or another verses banning a certain type of gun?  
    I do agree with you on the left leaning media and anti-gunners constantly and obsessively talking about banning the ar-15 and the now catch phrase "weapons of war".   It's odd how this particular shooting isn't making the facebook rounds like parkland; maybe because of the weapon used?
    You stated that AR and similar weapons are designed for only killing and should not be available... did you change your opinion?
    Yeah I thought he did maybe he did just for a couple of months or since this wasn’t an AR 15 crime it doesn’t count ...
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,123
    my2hands said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Its been confirmed that a shotgun and a revolver were used.  Is it now time for all of us to agree that there is a fundamental breakdown that we have all all created one way or another verses banning a certain type of gun?  
    I do agree with you on the left leaning media and anti-gunners constantly and obsessively talking about banning the ar-15 and the now catch phrase "weapons of war".   It's odd how this particular shooting isn't making the facebook rounds like parkland; maybe because of the weapon used?
    You stated that AR and similar weapons are designed for only killing and should not be available... did you change your opinion?
    No not at all, why?  I just find the obsession with the left is too get rid of the scary black weapons that are only used very rarely in crimes.  I would think things like training, background checks and gun locks should be a bigger priority.  
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,561
    edited May 2018
    Why does someone get classified an anti-gunner just because they want common sense gun laws?
    Because the right has to continually feed the fabrication that they are under sttack by the left. It’s the foundation of their agenda. 
  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,160
    The right is constantly under attack by the left. The left is constantly under attack by the right, too. It's fucking ridiculous. Those that reside in the middle are lumped into either extreme, depending on the topic being discussed. 

    I don't know where the perceived need to put everyone into some specific category came from but it's a pretty stupid development .

    Why can't people just be recognized as individuals? 
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited May 2018
    mcgruff10 said:
    my2hands said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Its been confirmed that a shotgun and a revolver were used.  Is it now time for all of us to agree that there is a fundamental breakdown that we have all all created one way or another verses banning a certain type of gun?  
    I do agree with you on the left leaning media and anti-gunners constantly and obsessively talking about banning the ar-15 and the now catch phrase "weapons of war".   It's odd how this particular shooting isn't making the facebook rounds like parkland; maybe because of the weapon used?
    You stated that AR and similar weapons are designed for only killing and should not be available... did you change your opinion?
    No not at all, why?  I just find the obsession with the left is too get rid of the scary black weapons that are only used very rarely in crimes.  I would think things like training, background checks and gun locks should be a bigger priority.  
    More than "the left" are in favor of banning AR style weapons, a large majority of Americans actually are in favor of that... 

    And call me crazy but maybe the AR gets a lot of attention because it's being used to mow down crowds at movie theaters,  churches, offices, softball fields,  night clubs,  music festivals, elementary schools, and high schools... why wouldn't it get a ton of attention, it's the weapon of choice for the 21st century mass murder?


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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    dudeman said:
    The right is constantly under attack by the left. The left is constantly under attack by the right, too. It's fucking ridiculous. Those that reside in the middle are lumped into either extreme, depending on the topic being discussed. 

    I don't know where the perceived need to put everyone into some specific category came from but it's a pretty stupid development .

    Why can't people just be recognized as individuals? 
    Makes sense to me, dudeman.  Better to judge (if you will) people by the quality of their minds and deeds rather than a label. 
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,379
    brianlux said:
    dudeman said:
    The right is constantly under attack by the left. The left is constantly under attack by the right, too. It's fucking ridiculous. Those that reside in the middle are lumped into either extreme, depending on the topic being discussed. 

    I don't know where the perceived need to put everyone into some specific category came from but it's a pretty stupid development .

    Why can't people just be recognized as individuals? 
    Makes sense to me, dudeman.  Better to judge (if you will) people by the quality of their minds and deeds rather than a label. 
    Rather than judge people by the quality of their minds, we can even take it a step further as a book I read suggested, and judge ideas by their quality as a meritocracy of thought. I loved that when I read it and still love it now.
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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    I blame gangsta rap and heavy metal music.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,561
    I blame gangsta rap and heavy metal music.
    And Murphy Brown. 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    I blame gangsta rap and heavy metal music.
    And Murphy Brown. 
    And Grand Theft Auto.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    Its been confirmed that a shotgun and a revolver were used.  Is it now time for all of us to agree that there is a fundamental breakdown that we have all all created one way or another verses banning a certain type of gun?  
    yes, its your fault
  • brianlux said:
    I blame gangsta rap and heavy metal music.
    And Murphy Brown. 
    And Grand Theft Auto.
    I was thinking more along the lines of Space Invaders' or 'Galaga'.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    brianlux said:
    I blame gangsta rap and heavy metal music.
    And Murphy Brown. 
    And Grand Theft Auto.
    I was thinking more along the lines of Space Invaders' or 'Galaga'.
    Now were going in The Way Back Machine, haha!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    That Texas governor or whatever he is is a dickhead.
    Saying video games and not being religious are to blame.
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,424
    brianlux said:
    I blame gangsta rap and heavy metal music.
    And Murphy Brown. 
    And Grand Theft Auto.
    I was thinking more along the lines of Space Invaders' or 'Galaga'.
    Not Frogger? 
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    brianlux said:
    I blame gangsta rap and heavy metal music.
    And Murphy Brown. 
    And Grand Theft Auto.
    I was thinking more along the lines of Space Invaders' or 'Galaga'.
    Not Frogger? 
    Frogger is responsible for J-walking.
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  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    YOU ARE NOT an anti gunner if you want common sense gun laws...

    We in Canada have decent gun laws.  Plenty of people I know still hunt and enjoy and they never complain about such nuisances as trigger locks, proper gun storage...etc.  
    Just want to repeat this Bolded part. 
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,599
    fife said:
    YOU ARE NOT an anti gunner if you want common sense gun laws...

    We in Canada have decent gun laws.  Plenty of people I know still hunt and enjoy and they never complain about such nuisances as trigger locks, proper gun storage...etc.  
    Just want to repeat this Bolded part. 
    It can't be repeated enough. Gun ownership is not the problem. American gun culture is.
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