Halifax mentioned parenting. I would agree that has to be part of the problem. Parenting is completely different now than it was 50 years ago. In the 50s and 60s most families had one parent (the mom) always at home. There is no way I can be convinced it doesn't have an impact when most kids go home to an empty house compared to one with always one parent. Other factors would include number of broken homes on the rise compared to several decades ago. Again, this causes a lot of conflict and stress on the children. Its commonly knowledge there is a direct correlation between broken homes and crime, it only makes since this carries over to gun violence too. Internet plays a role with social media and bullying that is 24/7. Social media is linked to depression and anxiety and isolating kids. Number of kids on antidepressants has increased, probably linked to all of the reasons above. The home is o where near where it was when my parents grew up. One of the only things that is the same are guns. Guns were readily available then, and actually easier to get. They've only become more difficult to obtain, you can't go to the local hardware store and walk out with a gun anymore. Kids grew up with gunslingers as heroes. Instead of dancing puppets, kid shows were cowboys shooting bad guys. So I don't buy into this gun culture being new either. Its been around. The kids and homes have changed. All that being said, I've said before I'm for gun control. I just don't think gun are the root of the problem.
I often see this "broken home" defence, but I don't think it holds water. if a family should be broken, it should break. back then, people stayed together because of societal pressure. The stress THAT puts on a child is immense. arguments, possible abuse, and even just unhappiness between parents kids pick up on. My wife can attest in her career, and so can my sister, to how much better and happier a child is once a marital split that was a long time coming actually comes.
my parents are still together, so i can't speak from experience. all I know is that when they WERE having issues back in the lean 80's, sometimes I WISHED they'd split up just so they'd stop fucking fighting, and they weren't even that bad. and that was a marriage that was WORTH saving.
There significant research that supports that the notion of ‘staying together for the kids’ is actually unhealthy for the kids.
I’d also fathom that the rates of domestic abuse and child physical and sexual abuse, along with murders committed with guns, were higher in the 50s-70s and 80s. The Leave It To Beaver and Ozzie and Harriet depictions of the ideal family unit are and were a myth.
Halifax mentioned parenting. I would agree that has to be part of the problem. Parenting is completely different now than it was 50 years ago. In the 50s and 60s most families had one parent (the mom) always at home. There is no way I can be convinced it doesn't have an impact when most kids go home to an empty house compared to one with always one parent. Other factors would include number of broken homes on the rise compared to several decades ago. Again, this causes a lot of conflict and stress on the children. Its commonly knowledge there is a direct correlation between broken homes and crime, it only makes since this carries over to gun violence too. Internet plays a role with social media and bullying that is 24/7. Social media is linked to depression and anxiety and isolating kids. Number of kids on antidepressants has increased, probably linked to all of the reasons above. The home is o where near where it was when my parents grew up. One of the only things that is the same are guns. Guns were readily available then, and actually easier to get. They've only become more difficult to obtain, you can't go to the local hardware store and walk out with a gun anymore. Kids grew up with gunslingers as heroes. Instead of dancing puppets, kid shows were cowboys shooting bad guys. So I don't buy into this gun culture being new either. Its been around. The kids and homes have changed. All that being said, I've said before I'm for gun control. I just don't think gun are the root of the problem.
I often see this "broken home" defence, but I don't think it holds water. if a family should be broken, it should break. back then, people stayed together because of societal pressure. The stress THAT puts on a child is immense. arguments, possible abuse, and even just unhappiness between parents kids pick up on. My wife can attest in her career, and so can my sister, to how much better and happier a child is once a marital split that was a long time coming actually comes.
my parents are still together, so i can't speak from experience. all I know is that when they WERE having issues back in the lean 80's, sometimes I WISHED they'd split up just so they'd stop fucking fighting, and they weren't even that bad. and that was a marriage that was WORTH saving.
There significant research that supports that the notion of ‘staying together for the kids’ is actually unhealthy for the kids.
absolutely.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
Pong was popular once and I doubt America suffered from too many people playing tennis like games. Did Mario make people eat mushrooms and stomp turtles? As has been pointed out American exceptionalism these days is just attempting to have all the guns (because fear?).
Pong was popular once and I doubt America suffered from too many people playing tennis like games. Did Mario make people eat mushrooms and stomp turtles? As has been pointed out American exceptionalism these days is just attempting to have all the guns (because fear?).
I ate mushrooms as a teenager and in my early 20's... but I didn't stomp turtles lol
Pong was popular once and I doubt America suffered from too many people playing tennis like games. Did Mario make people eat mushrooms and stomp turtles? As has been pointed out American exceptionalism these days is just attempting to have all the guns (because fear?).
LOL. Yeah, that Mario is definitely tripping on something.
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Pong was popular once and I doubt America suffered from too many people playing tennis like games. Did Mario make people eat mushrooms and stomp turtles? As has been pointed out American exceptionalism these days is just attempting to have all the guns (because fear?).
If you don't want to blame violent video games and make light of those games then don't blame guns either. You can't tell me that desensitizing children to all that violence hasn't caused this or at least helped create it. How many people are in the gaming industry that don't want the finger pointing at them so they don't lose billions in revenue.
Pong was popular once and I doubt America suffered from too many people playing tennis like games. Did Mario make people eat mushrooms and stomp turtles? As has been pointed out American exceptionalism these days is just attempting to have all the guns (because fear?).
If you don't want to blame violent video games and make light of those games then don't blame guns either. You can't tell me that desensitizing children to all that violence hasn't caused this or at least helped create it. How many people are in the gaming industry that don't want the finger pointing at them so they don't lose billions in revenue.
I agree that the video gene industry has capitalized on what the NRA was able to propagate into a huge revenue maker. I'd actually argue that games like Call of Duty help increase gun sales and military enlistment. Where I disagree is that video games cause gun violence.
Why would someone ask a question for which they already have an answer?
That’s an actual question. I honestly don’t know or understand why someone would do that.
? Are you meaning my asking why we're not protesting against violence in video games and television? I have an answer. I'm asking everyone else. Is that what you're asking?
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How come there were no school shootings when guns have been around in America with access to them and in the past before violent television and especially video games with lots of guns and gun fights, that we have no problem whatsoever buying for and allowing our children to play?? Kids go on emotions and they don't fully understand death yet we give them access to this violence. How come no one is protesting this?
This is a rhetorical question.
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
How come there were no school shootings when guns have been around in America with access to them and in the past before violent television and especially video games with lots of guns and gun fights, that we have no problem whatsoever buying for and allowing our children to play?? Kids go on emotions and they don't fully understand death yet we give them access to this violence. How come no one is protesting this?
How come there were no school shootings when guns have been around in America with access to them and in the past before violent television and especially video games with lots of guns and gun fights, that we have no problem whatsoever buying for and allowing our children to play?? Kids go on emotions and they don't fully understand death yet we give them access to this violence. How come no one is protesting this?
How about it's up to parents to keep violent games, tv and guns out of their childrens lives. Target shooting with adult supervision, not machine guns. Tv without violence. Video games without killing people.
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How come there were no school shootings when guns have been around in America with access to them and in the past before violent television and especially video games with lots of guns and gun fights, that we have no problem whatsoever buying for and allowing our children to play?? Kids go on emotions and they don't fully understand death yet we give them access to this violence. How come no one is protesting this?
How about it's up to parents to keep violent games, tv and guns out of their childrens lives. Target shooting with adult supervision, not machine guns. Tv without violence. Video games without killing people.
Not altogether a bad idea but only one major catch- you'd have to isolate your kids from other children or live in a religious commune in the far reaches of Utah or something like that. Normal kids will have access to this stuff. It's almost futile to keep them from it. Probably the better choice would be to educate your kids, get them interested in reading and being creative. Offer them better alternatives. Help them to become savvy about how lame these games are.
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
How come there were no school shootings when guns have been around in America with access to them and in the past before violent television and especially video games with lots of guns and gun fights, that we have no problem whatsoever buying for and allowing our children to play?? Kids go on emotions and they don't fully understand death yet we give them access to this violence. How come no one is protesting this?
cowardice is in fashion
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How come there were no school shootings when guns have been around in America with access to them and in the past before violent television and especially video games with lots of guns and gun fights, that we have no problem whatsoever buying for and allowing our children to play?? Kids go on emotions and they don't fully understand death yet we give them access to this violence. How come no one is protesting this?
cowardice is in fashion
Here's what I have to say about that: I've been assaulted twice in the last year and a half. The first time was by being hit in the head by a kid playing "knock out" game. I was not knocked out so I turned on the guy just long enough to get him to back off a bit and then jumped in my car and sped off. The guy that hit me had three buddies in the wings to back him up.
The second time was a few weeks ago when a guy came at me with a truck tire thumper (basically a heavy club). I had enough of a lead to get away by running to the nearest store instead of confronting the guy with a club.
I suppose in both cases my responses could be consider "cowardice". Well fuckin' A, I'll take cowardice over dead any day!
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"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
How come there were no school shootings when guns have been around in America with access to them and in the past before violent television and especially video games with lots of guns and gun fights, that we have no problem whatsoever buying for and allowing our children to play?? Kids go on emotions and they don't fully understand death yet we give them access to this violence. How come no one is protesting this?
How about it's up to parents to keep violent games, tv and guns out of their childrens lives. Target shooting with adult supervision, not machine guns. Tv without violence. Video games without killing people.
How come there were no school shootings when guns have been around in America with access to them and in the past before violent television and especially video games with lots of guns and gun fights, that we have no problem whatsoever buying for and allowing our children to play?? Kids go on emotions and they don't fully understand death yet we give them access to this violence. How come no one is protesting this?
cowardice is in fashion
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brianlux
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Here's what I have to say about that: I've been assaulted twice in
the last year and a half. The first time was by being hit in the head
by a kid playing "knock out" game. I was not knocked out so I turned on
the guy just long enough to get him to back off a bit and then jumped
in my car and sped off. The guy that hit me had three buddies in the
wings to back him up.
The second time was a few weeks ago when a
guy came at me with a truck tire thumper (basically a heavy club). I
had enough of a lead to get away by running to the nearest store instead
of confronting the guy with a club.
I suppose in both cases my responses could be consider "cowardice". Well fuckin' A, I'll take cowardice over dead any day!
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
"Try to not spook the horse."
-Neil Young
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brianlux
Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,309
Here's what I have to say about that: I've been assaulted twice in
the last year and a half. The first time was by being hit in the head
by a kid playing "knock out" game. I was not knocked out so I turned on
the guy just long enough to get him to back off a bit and then jumped
in my car and sped off. The guy that hit me had three buddies in the
wings to back him up.
The second time was a few weeks ago when a
guy came at me with a truck tire thumper (basically a heavy club). I
had enough of a lead to get away by running to the nearest store instead
of confronting the guy with a club.
I suppose in both cases my responses could be consider "cowardice". Well fuckin' A, I'll take cowardice over dead any day!
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Here's what I have to say about that: I've been assaulted twice in
the last year and a half. The first time was by being hit in the head
by a kid playing "knock out" game. I was not knocked out so I turned on
the guy just long enough to get him to back off a bit and then jumped
in my car and sped off. The guy that hit me had three buddies in the
wings to back him up.
The second time was a few weeks ago when a
guy came at me with a truck tire thumper (basically a heavy club). I
had enough of a lead to get away by running to the nearest store instead
of confronting the guy with a club.
I suppose in both cases my responses could be consider "cowardice". Well fuckin' A, I'll take cowardice over dead any day!
not at all. sick of pussies with weapons
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brianlux
Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,309
Here's what I have to say about that: I've been assaulted twice in
the last year and a half. The first time was by being hit in the head
by a kid playing "knock out" game. I was not knocked out so I turned on
the guy just long enough to get him to back off a bit and then jumped
in my car and sped off. The guy that hit me had three buddies in the
wings to back him up.
The second time was a few weeks ago when a
guy came at me with a truck tire thumper (basically a heavy club). I
had enough of a lead to get away by running to the nearest store instead
of confronting the guy with a club.
I suppose in both cases my responses could be consider "cowardice". Well fuckin' A, I'll take cowardice over dead any day!
not at all. sick of pussies with weapons
Didn't know what you meant. I'm sorry!
Unfortunately, a lot of people with guns seem to equate that with "bravery".
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
"Try to not spook the horse."
-Neil Young
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brianlux
Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,309
Here's what I have to say about that: I've been assaulted twice in
the last year and a half. The first time was by being hit in the head
by a kid playing "knock out" game. I was not knocked out so I turned on
the guy just long enough to get him to back off a bit and then jumped
in my car and sped off. The guy that hit me had three buddies in the
wings to back him up.
The second time was a few weeks ago when a
guy came at me with a truck tire thumper (basically a heavy club). I
had enough of a lead to get away by running to the nearest store instead
of confronting the guy with a club.
I suppose in both cases my responses could be consider "cowardice". Well fuckin' A, I'll take cowardice over dead any day!
not at all. sick of pussies with weapons
Didn't know what you meant. I'm sorry!
Unfortunately, a lot of people with guns seem to equate that with "bravery".
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
"Try to not spook the horse."
-Neil Young
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brianlux
Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,309
Here's what I have to say about that: I've been assaulted twice in
the last year and a half. The first time was by being hit in the head
by a kid playing "knock out" game. I was not knocked out so I turned on
the guy just long enough to get him to back off a bit and then jumped
in my car and sped off. The guy that hit me had three buddies in the
wings to back him up.
The second time was a few weeks ago when a
guy came at me with a truck tire thumper (basically a heavy club). I
had enough of a lead to get away by running to the nearest store instead
of confronting the guy with a club.
I suppose in both cases my responses could be consider "cowardice". Well fuckin' A, I'll take cowardice over dead any day!
not at all. sick of pussies with weapons
Didn't know what you meant. I'm sorry!
Unfortunately, a lot of people with guns seem to equate that with "bravery".
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
"Try to not spook the horse."
-Neil Young
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brianlux
Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,309
Here's what I have to say about that: I've been assaulted twice in
the last year and a half. The first time was by being hit in the head
by a kid playing "knock out" game. I was not knocked out so I turned on
the guy just long enough to get him to back off a bit and then jumped
in my car and sped off. The guy that hit me had three buddies in the
wings to back him up.
The second time was a few weeks ago when a
guy came at me with a truck tire thumper (basically a heavy club). I
had enough of a lead to get away by running to the nearest store instead
of confronting the guy with a club.
I suppose in both cases my responses could be consider "cowardice". Well fuckin' A, I'll take cowardice over dead any day!
not at all. sick of pussies with weapons
Didn't know what you meant. I'm sorry!
Unfortunately, a lot of people with guns seem to equate that with "bravery".
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
"Try to not spook the horse."
-Neil Young
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brianlux
Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,309
Here's what I have to say about that: I've been assaulted twice in
the last year and a half. The first time was by being hit in the head
by a kid playing "knock out" game. I was not knocked out so I turned on
the guy just long enough to get him to back off a bit and then jumped
in my car and sped off. The guy that hit me had three buddies in the
wings to back him up.
The second time was a few weeks ago when a
guy came at me with a truck tire thumper (basically a heavy club). I
had enough of a lead to get away by running to the nearest store instead
of confronting the guy with a club.
I suppose in both cases my responses could be consider "cowardice". Well fuckin' A, I'll take cowardice over dead any day!
not at all. sick of pussies with weapons
Didn't know what you meant. I'm sorry!
Unfortunately, a lot of people with guns seem to equate that with "bravery".
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Not cowardice at all.. intelligent i would say And games do cause children to behave differently even if not with a gun with anger and violence ive seen it first hand. If not for GTA or C.O.D kids under the recommended age that are playing them would have no concept of hookers or going up behind someone and cutting their throat. The games have an age limit that is not adhered to. That is a problem and that lies with the parent. What do you think is the average age of a player on cod or gta. It sure is not over 18 as the game suggests as an age limit
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Here's what I have to say about that: I've been assaulted twice in
the last year and a half. The first time was by being hit in the head
by a kid playing "knock out" game. I was not knocked out so I turned on
the guy just long enough to get him to back off a bit and then jumped
in my car and sped off. The guy that hit me had three buddies in the
wings to back him up.
The second time was a few weeks ago when a
guy came at me with a truck tire thumper (basically a heavy club). I
had enough of a lead to get away by running to the nearest store instead
of confronting the guy with a club.
I suppose in both cases my responses could be consider "cowardice". Well fuckin' A, I'll take cowardice over dead any day!
Here's what I have to say about that: I've been assaulted twice in
the last year and a half. The first time was by being hit in the head
by a kid playing "knock out" game. I was not knocked out so I turned on
the guy just long enough to get him to back off a bit and then jumped
in my car and sped off. The guy that hit me had three buddies in the
wings to back him up.
The second time was a few weeks ago when a
guy came at me with a truck tire thumper (basically a heavy club). I
had enough of a lead to get away by running to the nearest store instead
of confronting the guy with a club.
I suppose in both cases my responses could be consider "cowardice". Well fuckin' A, I'll take cowardice over dead any day!
Where the hell do you live? Geez.
a hippie commune gone bad.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
I watched violent tv and played violent video games as a kid. I loved WWF wrestling. did I hit my friends over the head with a steel chair? Jump off a fence with a flying elbow onto my dad? no.
remember how bugs bunny used to have violence, and they edited it out for syndication? gimme a break. we all watched that shit growing up in the 80's and none of us shot up a school.
next deflection.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
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Did Mario make people eat mushrooms and stomp turtles?
As has been pointed out American exceptionalism these days is just attempting to have all the guns (because fear?).
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That’s an actual question. I honestly don’t know or understand why someone would do that.
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-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Here's what I have to say about that: I've been assaulted twice in the last year and a half. The first time was by being hit in the head by a kid playing "knock out" game. I was not knocked out so I turned on the guy just long enough to get him to back off a bit and then jumped in my car and sped off. The guy that hit me had three buddies in the wings to back him up.
The second time was a few weeks ago when a guy came at me with a truck tire thumper (basically a heavy club). I had enough of a lead to get away by running to the nearest store instead of confronting the guy with a club.
I suppose in both cases my responses could be consider "cowardice". Well fuckin' A, I'll take cowardice over dead any day!
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.
Brilliantati©
Here's what I have to say about that: I've been assaulted twice in the last year and a half. The first time was by being hit in the head by a kid playing "knock out" game. I was not knocked out so I turned on the guy just long enough to get him to back off a bit and then jumped in my car and sped off. The guy that hit me had three buddies in the wings to back him up.
The second time was a few weeks ago when a guy came at me with a truck tire thumper (basically a heavy club). I had enough of a lead to get away by running to the nearest store instead of confronting the guy with a club.
I suppose in both cases my responses could be consider "cowardice". Well fuckin' A, I'll take cowardice over dead any day!
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Here's what I have to say about that: I've been assaulted twice in the last year and a half. The first time was by being hit in the head by a kid playing "knock out" game. I was not knocked out so I turned on the guy just long enough to get him to back off a bit and then jumped in my car and sped off. The guy that hit me had three buddies in the wings to back him up.
The second time was a few weeks ago when a guy came at me with a truck tire thumper (basically a heavy club). I had enough of a lead to get away by running to the nearest store instead of confronting the guy with a club.
I suppose in both cases my responses could be consider "cowardice". Well fuckin' A, I'll take cowardice over dead any day!
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Unfortunately, a lot of people with guns seem to equate that with "bravery".
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Unfortunately, a lot of people with guns seem to equate that with "bravery".
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Unfortunately, a lot of people with guns seem to equate that with "bravery".
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Unfortunately, a lot of people with guns seem to equate that with "bravery".
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Unfortunately, a lot of people with guns seem to equate that with "bravery".
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
And games do cause children to behave differently even if not with a gun with anger and violence ive seen it first hand. If not for GTA or C.O.D kids under the recommended age that are playing them would have no concept of hookers or going up behind someone and cutting their throat. The games have an age limit that is not adhered to. That is a problem and that lies with the parent. What do you think is the average age of a player on cod or gta. It sure is not over 18 as the game suggests as an age limit
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-EV 8/14/93
remember how bugs bunny used to have violence, and they edited it out for syndication? gimme a break. we all watched that shit growing up in the 80's and none of us shot up a school.
next deflection.
-EV 8/14/93