Europe Tour Routing/Transportation

PJNB

SpinTheLastExit said:

There's a train that stops at Warsaw then to Berlin, so I'm doing that during the day on the 4th. Apparently the direct line from Krakow to Berlin is getting maintenance for a couple of years?

I'm staying in a hotel quite near the zoo, I think.

I am by the Zoo as well. Hotel Pension Bernstein I think it is called. Are you anywheres near that? 

PJNB

The Rock said:

Sorry for all the questions.  The overnight bus arrives at the Central Bus Station (ZOB). Is the S-Bahn line nearby?

I am from Canada and have never been to Berlin so maybe I am the last person you should listen too but this is what I do. Just type the hotel you are looking at into Google maps and click directions. Add the venue in your search. There is an option to choose car/walk/transit. Choose transit and it should give you a bunch of options. Make sure you note how far the walk to the transit is as well. 

SpinTheLastExit

PJNB said:

SpinTheLastExit said:

There's a train that stops at Warsaw then to Berlin, so I'm doing that during the day on the 4th. Apparently the direct line from Krakow to Berlin is getting maintenance for a couple of years?

I'm staying in a hotel quite near the zoo, I think.

I am by the Zoo as well. Hotel Pension Bernstein I think it is called. Are you anywheres near that? 

I'm relatively near you, I'm at the Energie Hotel.

The Rock

PJNB said:

The Rock said:

Sorry for all the questions.  The overnight bus arrives at the Central Bus Station (ZOB). Is the S-Bahn line nearby?

I am from Canada and have never been to Berlin so maybe I am the last person you should listen too but this is what I do. Just type the hotel you are looking at into Google maps and click directions. Add the venue in your search. There is an option to choose car/walk/transit. Choose transit and it should give you a bunch of options. Make sure you note how far the walk to the transit is as well. 

Thanks, I didn't even realise it gave me more detailed info!  Found a good place now so I'm happy!

PJNB

The Rock said:

PJNB said:

The Rock said:

Sorry for all the questions.  The overnight bus arrives at the Central Bus Station (ZOB). Is the S-Bahn line nearby?

I am from Canada and have never been to Berlin so maybe I am the last person you should listen too but this is what I do. Just type the hotel you are looking at into Google maps and click directions. Add the venue in your search. There is an option to choose car/walk/transit. Choose transit and it should give you a bunch of options. Make sure you note how far the walk to the transit is as well. 

Thanks, I didn't even realise it gave me more detailed info!  Found a good place now so I'm happy!

No problem. I have not used this yet but I have heard from the locals that there is a BVG app that works great in Berlin. You just put the two streets that you want to go in it and it maps it out for you. 

23scidoo

Gingerlou77 said:

The Rock said:

SpinTheLastExit said:

The Rock said:

Is Wahldbuhne fairly accessible by train/tram/bus or whatever?

Looks to be, it's right next to the Olympic Stadium.

Thanks!  I'm just going in circles looking at a million different hotels.  I really have no idea where to stay

We're staying in Mitte. Easy to see the sights and get to the venue.

We're staying at Mitte too..near to Pergamon museum..

IZI

Gingerlou77 said:

deftones said:

Red Lukin said:

Yeah same here. Plane too much of a hassle.  I may even consider the overnight train. I gain a day as the day train will eat up most of the day.

Any locals wanna look into private transportation?  I'd be willing to pay a premium especially if they are willing to stop in auschwitz on the way.

I can't see any overnight train. The only overnight option right now is the bus. This would work for me if train fails.

Definately a direct overnight train on Monday. Here it is 

collapse	Praha hl.n.Kraków Główny	08.05.18 09.05.18	depDEPARTURE22:19   arrARRIVAL06:38	8:19	0		PRAHA HL.N. - KRAKÓW GŁÓWNY DEPARTURE 22:19
Connection details  EN 443 VIEW FULL ROUTE CATEGORY: EuroNight OPERATOR: PKP Intercity DISTANCE: - km runs not every day: 26. Apr until 9. Jun 2018 Look at the last sentence....It's polish train (I'm think) and this information from polish railway timetable.... I'm not sure that this night train will be As I told you polish railway timetable will change at 09/10.06 and maybe the train will be ...but if you try to check in official polish railway timetable there isn't this train after 09.06.2018.  It's possible to find others trains after this date (with information that timetable will change after 09.06) but this train it isn't in timetable after 09.06.2018

PJNB

IZI said:

Gingerlou77 said:

deftones said:

Red Lukin said:

Yeah same here. Plane too much of a hassle.  I may even consider the overnight train. I gain a day as the day train will eat up most of the day.

Any locals wanna look into private transportation?  I'd be willing to pay a premium especially if they are willing to stop in auschwitz on the way.

I can't see any overnight train. The only overnight option right now is the bus. This would work for me if train fails.

Definately a direct overnight train on Monday. Here it is 

collapse	Praha hl.n.Kraków Główny	08.05.18 09.05.18	depDEPARTURE22:19   arrARRIVAL06:38	8:19	0		PRAHA HL.N. - KRAKÓW GŁÓWNY DEPARTURE 22:19
Connection details  EN 443 VIEW FULL ROUTE CATEGORY: EuroNight OPERATOR: PKP Intercity DISTANCE: - km runs not every day: 26. Apr until 9. Jun 2018 Look at the last sentence....It's polish train (I'm think) and this information from polish railway timetable.... I'm not sure that this night train will be As I told you polish railway timetable will change at 09/10.06 and maybe the train will be ...but if you try to check in official polish railway timetable there isn't this train after 09.06.2018.  It's possible to find others trains after this date (with information that timetable will change after 09.06) but this train it isn't in timetable after 09.06.2018

So the 60 day window is not true then? Is there a chance that we book 60 days out and the schedule will then change after June 10th? Sorry not used to this stuff where I am from. 

Red Lukin

Okay for kicks I reached out to a company called Krakow Travel Time, and inquired about private transportation from Prague to Krakow with a 4 hour stop in Auschwitz.

Total cost is 1870 PLN and includes everything except Auschwitz tickets.  Which is $86 CND or 55E.  Also the van is a 2015/16 Ford Tourneo Custom van.

Pros - can leave whenever we want (likely 8am), can visit Auschwitz, and quicker
Cons - not as comfortable as a train, cost a bit higher

Not sure I wanna go this route but keeping all options open.

PJNB

Red Lukin said:

Okay for kicks I reached out to a company called Krakow Travel Time, and inquired about private transportation from Prague to Krakow with a 4 hour stop in Auschwitz.

Total cost is 1870 PLN and includes everything except Auschwitz tickets.  Which is $86 CND or 55E.  Also the van is a 2015/16 Ford Tourneo Custom van.

Pros - can leave whenever we want (likely 8am), can visit Auschwitz, and quicker
Cons - not as comfortable as a train, cost a bit higher

Not sure I wanna go this route but keeping all options open.

Thanks for the info and I maybe interested in this. Looking at the price though we would need 10 people (does the van hold this many) just to get the price down to $70 CAD.  Like you stated it is more but the convenience is there. Also I looked into the Auschwitz tour and it looks much cheaper ($20 CAD) to me then what you stated unless I am missing something. I used this site for reference https://visit.auschwitz.org/?lang=en

Red Lukin

Sorry I meant the van price is which is $86 CND or 55E.  That's with 8 people, which is the max for this type of van.  Seems kinda pricey to go to Auschwitz.  I think it's free if you go in the morning or evening.

Red Lukin

Oh it's 50 PLN.  I thought it was 50 Euro.  Not so bad then.

PJNB

Red Lukin said:

Sorry I meant the van price is which is $86 CND or 55E.  That's with 8 people, which is the max for this type of van.  Seems kinda pricey to go to Auschwitz.  I think it's free if you go in the morning or evening.

Ah my bad makes sense reading it again. Lets keep this open as an option. I think I will really regret not visiting Auschwitz while in Poland. 

IZI

PJNB said:

EN 443 VIEW FULL ROUTE CATEGORY: EuroNight OPERATOR: PKP Intercity DISTANCE: - km runs not every day: 26. Apr until 9. Jun 2018 Look at the last sentence....It's polish train (I'm think) and this information from polish railway timetable.... I'm not sure that this night train will be As I told you polish railway timetable will change at 09/10.06 and maybe the train will be ...but if you try to check in official polish railway timetable there isn't this train after 09.06.2018.  It's possible to find others trains after this date (with information that timetable will change after 09.06) but this train it isn't in timetable after 09.06.2018

So the 60 day window is not true then? Is there a chance that we book 60 days out and the schedule will then change after June 10th? Sorry not used to this stuff where I am from. 

No problem.
From 60 days before trip it's only time for buy ticket 
Normally at Summer it's small correction of timetable(for example about few minutes) 
But as you see this night train it isn't in timetable after the date of change....maybe it's only mistake but maybe this train it will be cancelled after 09.06.2018. I don't know

Gingerlou77

IZI said:

PJNB said:

EN 443 VIEW FULL ROUTE CATEGORY: EuroNight OPERATOR: PKP Intercity DISTANCE: - km runs not every day: 26. Apr until 9. Jun 2018 Look at the last sentence....It's polish train (I'm think) and this information from polish railway timetable.... I'm not sure that this night train will be As I told you polish railway timetable will change at 09/10.06 and maybe the train will be ...but if you try to check in official polish railway timetable there isn't this train after 09.06.2018.  It's possible to find others trains after this date (with information that timetable will change after 09.06) but this train it isn't in timetable after 09.06.2018

So the 60 day window is not true then? Is there a chance that we book 60 days out and the schedule will then change after June 10th? Sorry not used to this stuff where I am from. 

No problem.
From 60 days before trip it's only time for buy ticket 
Normally at Summer it's small correction of timetable(for example about few minutes) 
But as you see this night train it isn't in timetable after the date of change....maybe it's only mistake but maybe this train it will be cancelled after 09.06.2018. I don't know

I emailed them and they said it would be running.  Here's hoping. 

IZI

Red Lukin said:

Sorry I meant the van price is which is $86 CND or 55E.  That's with 8 people, which is the max for this type of van.  Seems kinda pricey to go to Auschwitz.  I think it's free if you go in the morning or evening.

I asked  firm which I used from Kraków to Prague(Muse show with friends) 
8 person bus with driver 1500 zł (Prague-Auschwitz-Kraków)
18 persons bus with two drivers 2700(Prague-Auschwitz-Kraków)
It'c company from Kraków
If you need contact send me priv

SpinTheLastExit

PJNB said:

Red Lukin said:

Sorry I meant the van price is which is $86 CND or 55E.  That's with 8 people, which is the max for this type of van.  Seems kinda pricey to go to Auschwitz.  I think it's free if you go in the morning or evening.

Ah my bad makes sense reading it again. Lets keep this open as an option. I think I will really regret not visiting Auschwitz while in Poland. 

Definitely, it's a must do. And if you think you're gonna struggle to make it out to Poland for a while then you should grab this opportunity.

I'm settled, I'll be doing the train. I've visited Auschwitz before, and while I'd want to visit again sometime, it's still fresh in my memory from four years ago. I think I'll do it again when I have more time in Poland.

Red Lukin

The company I mentioned above has pretty good reviews.  https://www.tripadvisor.ca/Attraction_Review-g274772-d7392305-Reviews-Krakow_Travel_Time-Krakow_Lesser_Poland_Province_Southern_Poland.html

Not sure yet if I plan to go this route but if I did would anyone else be interested?  We'd need 8 passengers to get this price of 55 Euro.

IZI, what is the company name?  1500 seems better than 1870.

IZI

It's not a good idea to go to Auschwitz in a day of Pearl Jam show in my opinion 

Red Lukin

thinking the 2nd..

IZI

Better option - You will see

MRMACPHISTO75

I just posted this elsewhere, this is what I received regarding the train from Prague to Krakow

PJNB

23scidoo

MRMACPHISTO75 said:

I just posted this elsewhere, this is what I received regarding the train from Prague to Krakow

This is what i get today from my friend in Prague..

''I exchanged few mails with them. Good they reply quickly. But sometimes they do not answer the question properly.

 

Finally I have the result for you. But it is not confirmation :-(

 

The timetable is going to be changed on 10/6 so they cannot guarantee it will stay as it is. When I asked them if the train EC115 is planned for 2/7 they replied that it is in the draft but the departure time and price may change. They cannot say anything concrete now ''

 

timdwilli

Needless to say, the real winners in this game are those who booked that nonstop Ryanair flight when the price was reasonable

23scidoo

What you think guys??..we should take the risk and wait until 10-6 or we check other options??..
i'm starting to worry..

PJNB

23scidoo said:

What you think guys??..we should take the risk and wait until 10-6 or we check other options??..
i'm starting to worry..

What other options are there though? Besides taking a bus this is pretty much our only option right?

nippleholic

Waiting until June 10 kind of sucks since I'll already be in Europe by then for the Amsterdam shows. But the train is still my preferred mode of transportation in this case. 

deftones

PJNB said:

23scidoo said:

What you think guys??..we should take the risk and wait until 10-6 or we check other options??..
i'm starting to worry..

What other options are there though? Besides taking a bus this is pretty much our only option right?

There is nothing to worry about. One way or another we will get to Krakow. Worst case scenario is that the timetable won't be the best but I wouldn't worry. Nothing to worry about when you are travelling from one PJ show to another! 

deftones

timdwilli said:

Needless to say, the real winners in this game are those who booked that nonstop Ryanair flight when the price was reasonable

This is true