Do you know a murderer?!

tempo_n_groove

rgambs said:

We are all capable of murder under the right circumstances.
Humanity is a beastly breed.

We are bread to kill each other, true.

Yes I know a few murderers.

markymark550

A guy I went to high school with killed someone in a bar fight when I was in college. From what I remember, details were sketchy about why they were fighting and what actually happened during the fight. The other guy initially survived, but died a day or 2 later in the hospital. It's jarring to find out about something like that, but knowing who that classmate was, I wasn't shocked about it. He came from a well to do family and they hired a lawyer that was able to get him little to no jail time.

rgambs

My half brother was convicted of murder and I don't know if he did it or not.  It was a total shitshow "Making A Murderer" situation where there were clear indications that he did and equally clear indications that it couldn't possibly have been him.  He maintained innocence until the day he killed himself, when he wrote a confession that was loaded with sarcasm and hyperbole, further confusing the issue. The tone (and even the verbiage) was "I am the scum of the Earth, congratulations, you got your man, you are all angels and I'm the devil"
The state was convinced of his guilt from the start, they never considered any other suspects, including a convicted rapist whose DNA was recovered from the scene.  They didn't even come close to meeting the burden of proof for a murder conviction, but the jury would have voted guilty before the trial began due to media coverage.

MayDay10

someone I went to high school with, a relatively nice kid at the time. 

Maybe 10-15 years after graduation?

He went after an ex girlfriend who still lived in my neighborhood with a gun and shot her in the ass a few times as she ran from him.  He chased after her and the cops gunned him down.  In his apartment, they found a huge cache of weapons (freedom!) and homemade bombs and such.  

http://www.niagara-gazette.com/news/local_news/niagara-falls-fatal-shootout-leads-to-small-arsenal/article_325d0792-d58f-5133-9d93-66d5ae743dcd.html

mickeyrat

jugglers sandwhich making neighbor offed the wife.....

darwinstheory

My mom was a nurse back in the day. She and one of her nurse's aids became friends. She started hanging out at our house too much and started talking to me about hooking up. I was 15-16 back in 1997-98. I kept it quiet but I never did anything. Good thing she was not hot! 

Next, she started talking about her young son having leukemia. My mom said something to her mom (the murderers mother) about how sad it was that her grand son had leukemia. Her mom told my mom that it was not true. That's when my mom quit talking to this weird lady.

Fast forward a couple years, the crazy lady is a caregiver for an elderly man who passes away. Autopsy shows he was poisoned to death with anti-freeze. Records show the elderly person signed everything over to the crazy lady shortly before his death...in her hand writing. Psycho bitch is up for parole sometime in the next 5-10 years.

dankind

I am a cereal killer.

brianlux

dankind said:

I am a cereal killer.

Yes, everyone, Dan kind is the subject of this book!

HughFreakingDillon

mickeyrat said:

jugglers sandwhich making neighbor offed the wife.....

LOL, I was coming here to post the same damn thing. was it grilled cheese?

PJ_Soul

A friend of mine in high school became a two-time murderer, starting maybe a couple years after graduation. He murdered the first person in cold blood - totally innocent victim who he didn't know but stabbed to death at a party when he was in a rage. He just attacked the first person he saw. And then he was released under extenuating circumstances (drunk and with a learning disability leading to rage problems apparently), and he did it again, basically the same exact scenario. He was let out again (he had to do intensive counseling and shit). Last I heard he's happily married. He might have kids now. That must be VERY upsetting for the families of his victims.
The crazy thing is that he was a nice guy. He did get in fights once in a while, but besides that, he was alright, and I never thought he'd be dangerous to anyone. I hung out with him often enough. I liked him. My parents both taught him and they liked him too. And he was from a very nice, stable family with parents who really cared and two very successful siblings. He just had a screw loose... he would snap and be unable to control himself (and it was worse when he drank).

WhatYouTaughtMe

Damn mickeyrat, heavy stuff. I suppose most everything in here is. Unfortunately I've known two people who became murderers. Both murdered their significant others that I also knew. One situation left children without either parent. Very sad and hard to talk about sometimes so I won't go into great detail.

Gtilley8

Good friend of mine, we grew up playing baseball together.  Same team for 9 years.  He moved out to Aurora, CO after high school and married some girl he met online.  Got mixed up with the wrong guys out there.  Two guys threatened his family, so I was told, and he found where the guys lived.  Shot them both execution style in their apartment.  Still don't believe it.  This was last April.  

The Juggler

FoxyRedLa said:

I recently found out a kid I went to school/graduated with attempted to kill his wife. DID NOT see this one coming.  They have 2 kids. He's a teacher. He was having an affair with an under age student. Wife finds out and he cut her throat and sat next to her and waited for her to die. Shes a nurse and positioned herself so she didn't choke on her own blood. She pleads with him to save her. He calls the underage pre teen and she talks him into calling the ambo. She survived. I wish I were making this up. I'm still shocked and speechless. I'd much rather say I went to school with someone that's now famous!

His parents both taught at our school too. 

It's just so bizarre and unbelievable!

PLEASE.

You're friends with an attempted murderer. I am/was friends with an ACTUAL murderer. Hell, I am almost bought his house!

http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/200374/my-neighbors-previous-job-was-to-make-me-sandwiches-and-a-guy-i-worked-with-killed-his-wife/p5

PureandEasy

Yes, two guys I hung out with over the years murdered people, one was drug related, the other was a jealousy thing. The drug related one, I hung out at his house for a long time, maybe up to a year before the crime. He was released about 5 years ago and was killed a motorcycle accident late last year. He was a nice guy, goes to show you how drugs can over take you and cause you to do irractic things. 

brianlux

I don't know if I know any murderers but one of the nicest guys I even met was murdered outside a bar.  That was a hard blow.

Bentleyspop

Don't  know any murderers but unfortunately  know people  who were murdered 

Thirty Bills Unpaid

PJ_Soul said:

A friend of mine in high school became a two-time murderer, starting maybe a couple years after graduation. He murdered the first person in cold blood - totally innocent victim who he didn't know but stabbed to death at a party when he was in a rage. He just attacked the first person he saw. And then he was released under extenuating circumstances (drunk and with a learning disability leading to rage problems apparently), and he did it again, basically the same exact scenario. He was let out again (he had to do intensive counseling and shit). Last I heard he's happily married. He might have kids now. That must be VERY upsetting for the families of his victims.
The crazy thing is that he was a nice guy. He did get in fights once in a while, but besides that, he was alright, and I never thought he'd be dangerous to anyone. I hung out with him often enough. I liked him. My parents both taught him and they liked him too. And he was from a very nice, stable family with parents who really cared and two very successful siblings. He just had a screw loose... he would snap and be unable to control himself (and it was worse when he drank).

For those that are thinking, "What the f**k?" ... please understand this happened in Canada. Our courts love our murderers up here and do everything to avoid punishing them.

HughFreakingDillon

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJ_Soul said:

A friend of mine in high school became a two-time murderer, starting maybe a couple years after graduation. He murdered the first person in cold blood - totally innocent victim who he didn't know but stabbed to death at a party when he was in a rage. He just attacked the first person he saw. And then he was released under extenuating circumstances (drunk and with a learning disability leading to rage problems apparently), and he did it again, basically the same exact scenario. He was let out again (he had to do intensive counseling and shit). Last I heard he's happily married. He might have kids now. That must be VERY upsetting for the families of his victims.
The crazy thing is that he was a nice guy. He did get in fights once in a while, but besides that, he was alright, and I never thought he'd be dangerous to anyone. I hung out with him often enough. I liked him. My parents both taught him and they liked him too. And he was from a very nice, stable family with parents who really cared and two very successful siblings. He just had a screw loose... he would snap and be unable to control himself (and it was worse when he drank).

For those that are thinking, "What the f**k?" ... please understand this happened in Canada. Our courts love our murderers up here and do everything to avoid punishing them.

I was waiting for you to chime in on this one. 

dankind

So, hypothetically, if an American were to travel to Canada and hypothetically murder a Canadian citizen in a fit of rage, how do you think the Canadian courts would handle the hypothetical murderer in such a hypothetical situation? 

Hypothetically. 

darwinstheory

dankind said:

So, hypothetically, if an American were to travel to Canada and hypothetically murder a Canadian citizen in a fit of rage, how do you think the Canadian courts would handle the hypothetical murderer in such a hypothetical situation? 

Hypothetically. 

Just to clarify here, hypothetically speaking, is this a hypothetical question?