Let’s see those pedals?

dudeman

aintitthelife98 said:

Here is my current pedal board. The JHS Bonsai, EHX Op Amp Big Muff Pi and Boss DM-2W are recent additions. Just trying to figure out now if I have my pedal order right. 

Very cool! Nice pedals. 

For the order, I would try: Bonsai -> Turbo Distortion -> Big Muff -> SansAmp.

IME, a Tube Screamer in front of a Big Muff brings out a whole new level of harmonics, same with the TS into Distortion. The SansAmp is designed to react to input signals much like an amplifier input stage. Running overdrive or other dirt pedals into the front of that should give you different levels of dirt and grind and each combination should sound good. 

Best to experiment for yourself, of course. That's half of the fun!

Good job on your board!

aintitthelife98

dudeman said:

aintitthelife98 said:

Here is my current pedal board. The JHS Bonsai, EHX Op Amp Big Muff Pi and Boss DM-2W are recent additions. Just trying to figure out now if I have my pedal order right. 

Very cool! Nice pedals. 

For the order, I would try: Bonsai -> Turbo Distortion -> Big Muff -> SansAmp.

IME, a Tube Screamer in front of a Big Muff brings out a whole new level of harmonics, same with the TS into Distortion. The SansAmp is designed to react to input signals much like an amplifier input stage. Running overdrive or other dirt pedals into the front of that should give you different levels of dirt and grind and each combination should sound good. 

Best to experiment for yourself, of course. That's half of the fun!

Good job on your board!

Appreciate the advice and kind words, I'll definitely give that a go.

For the SansAmp, I'm using it as a distortion pedal to get that In Utero distortion tone. With that usage pattern, would you still place it right before the small clone? It's definitely a pedal I need to explore more because it's crazy powerful and versatile but I can't lie that I got it because it's what Kurt used and Nirvana is the reason I got my first guitar 1993. The DS-2 was the first pedal I bought along with that MIM Strat!

dudeman

aintitthelife98 said:

dudeman said:

aintitthelife98 said:

Here is my current pedal board. The JHS Bonsai, EHX Op Amp Big Muff Pi and Boss DM-2W are recent additions. Just trying to figure out now if I have my pedal order right. 

Very cool! Nice pedals. 

For the order, I would try: Bonsai -> Turbo Distortion -> Big Muff -> SansAmp.

IME, a Tube Screamer in front of a Big Muff brings out a whole new level of harmonics, same with the TS into Distortion. The SansAmp is designed to react to input signals much like an amplifier input stage. Running overdrive or other dirt pedals into the front of that should give you different levels of dirt and grind and each combination should sound good. 

Best to experiment for yourself, of course. That's half of the fun!

Good job on your board!

Appreciate the advice and kind words, I'll definitely give that a go.

For the SansAmp, I'm using it as a distortion pedal to get that In Utero distortion tone. With that usage pattern, would you still place it right before the small clone? It's definitely a pedal I need to explore more because it's crazy powerful and versatile but I can't lie that I got it because it's what Kurt used and Nirvana is the reason I got my first guitar 1993. The DS-2 was the first pedal I bought along with that MIM Strat!

Yeah, SansAmp in front of the Small Clone is how I would do it. I think you'll be surprised by what happens when you have the SansAmp on and the hit it from the front with your other dirt pedals. Lots and lots of tonal options to be had.

mcgruff10

Awesome pedal board!!!

mcgruff10

Loving the mxr phase 90.  So freaking cool.  

Merkin Baller

aintitthelife98 said:

dudeman said:

aintitthelife98 said:

Here is my current pedal board. The JHS Bonsai, EHX Op Amp Big Muff Pi and Boss DM-2W are recent additions. Just trying to figure out now if I have my pedal order right. 

Very cool! Nice pedals. 

For the order, I would try: Bonsai -> Turbo Distortion -> Big Muff -> SansAmp.

IME, a Tube Screamer in front of a Big Muff brings out a whole new level of harmonics, same with the TS into Distortion. The SansAmp is designed to react to input signals much like an amplifier input stage. Running overdrive or other dirt pedals into the front of that should give you different levels of dirt and grind and each combination should sound good. 

Best to experiment for yourself, of course. That's half of the fun!

Good job on your board!

Appreciate the advice and kind words, I'll definitely give that a go.

For the SansAmp, I'm using it as a distortion pedal to get that In Utero distortion tone. With that usage pattern, would you still place it right before the small clone? It's definitely a pedal I need to explore more because it's crazy powerful and versatile but I can't lie that I got it because it's what Kurt used and Nirvana is the reason I got my first guitar 1993. The DS-2 was the first pedal I bought along with that MIM Strat!

The Sansamp is a game changer. 

dudeman

mcgruff10 said:

Loving the mxr phase 90.  So freaking cool.  

Great news! Do you have it before or after your dirt pedals?

mcgruff10

dudeman said:

mcgruff10 said:

Loving the mxr phase 90.  So freaking cool.  

Great news! Do you have it before or after your dirt pedals?

StardogChamp79

Mission Control. I have to move the Whammy. Waiting on parts. 

dudeman

StardogChamp79 said:

Mission Control. I have to move the Whammy. Waiting on parts. 

Cool setup! That pretty much does everything a guitar player might want. 

What's up with the Whammy?

aintitthelife98

This beauty just came the other day. I just need to figure out where to put it in my signal chain!

Theebs

aintitthelife98 said:

This beauty just came the other day. I just need to figure out where to put it in my signal chain!

Nice.  My favorite pedal.  Matt and Funny little Boxes make great pedals.  

gimmesometruth27

I run it as my last dirt pedal just before my modulation and delays. it is good to be able to stack lower gain pedals with it.

SVRDhand13

gimmesometruth27 said:

I run it as my last dirt pedal just before my modulation and delays. it is good to be able to stack lower gain pedals with it.

I’m curious what do you stack in front of it? 

I have a Boss OD200 after this one but maybe I should flip them. 

gimmesometruth27

SVRDhand13 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

I run it as my last dirt pedal just before my modulation and delays. it is good to be able to stack lower gain pedals with it.

I’m curious what do you stack in front of it? 

I have a Boss OD200 after this one but maybe I should flip them. 

i have a wampler tumnus and a protein going in front of it. i have the tumnus, a klon circuit, set on lower gain, going into the protein, which is a bluesbreaker circuit on one side and a nobels odr 1 on the other side, for medium gain, going into the 1991. i never have all 3 on because it can get out of hand, but i will usually have the tumnus on full time with single coils and goose the 1991 with it, or with humbuckers i will have the bluesbreaker side of the protein on full time going into the 1991. to me it is more dynamic, and to clean it up i just rock guitar volume back a bit. works well for me on a fender princeton. my main amps are vintage marshalls and i uses completely different pedals for those amps.

gimmesometruth27

gimmesometruth27 said:

SVRDhand13 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

I run it as my last dirt pedal just before my modulation and delays. it is good to be able to stack lower gain pedals with it.

I’m curious what do you stack in front of it? 

I have a Boss OD200 after this one but maybe I should flip them. 

i have a wampler tumnus and a protein going in front of it. i have the tumnus, a klon circuit, set on lower gain, going into the protein, which is a bluesbreaker circuit on one side and a nobels odr 1 on the other side, for medium gain, going into the 1991. i never have all 3 on because it can get out of hand, but i will usually have the tumnus on full time with single coils and goose the 1991 with it, or with humbuckers i will have the bluesbreaker side of the protein on full time going into the 1991. to me it is more dynamic, and to clean it up i just rock guitar volume back a bit. works well for me on a fender princeton. my main amps are vintage marshalls and i uses completely different pedals for those amps.

i forgot to say try swapping the order on your pedals and see how it sounds.

since that 1991 pedal is basically a replica of an overdriven jcm 800, i would set that pedal as your heaviest drive setting and accent it with an overdrive or two in front of it. I do not think the 1991 pedal would work as well with a fuzz or a heavy distortion in front of it because you would basically be slamming a distorted tone with more distortion and that usually equals mud.

that is just my opinion based on experimenting with many different drive circuits going in to many different types of amps. may be different for your setup.

SVRDhand13

gimmesometruth27 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

SVRDhand13 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

I run it as my last dirt pedal just before my modulation and delays. it is good to be able to stack lower gain pedals with it.

I’m curious what do you stack in front of it? 

I have a Boss OD200 after this one but maybe I should flip them. 

i have a wampler tumnus and a protein going in front of it. i have the tumnus, a klon circuit, set on lower gain, going into the protein, which is a bluesbreaker circuit on one side and a nobels odr 1 on the other side, for medium gain, going into the 1991. i never have all 3 on because it can get out of hand, but i will usually have the tumnus on full time with single coils and goose the 1991 with it, or with humbuckers i will have the bluesbreaker side of the protein on full time going into the 1991. to me it is more dynamic, and to clean it up i just rock guitar volume back a bit. works well for me on a fender princeton. my main amps are vintage marshalls and i uses completely different pedals for those amps.

i forgot to say try swapping the order on your pedals and see how it sounds.

since that 1991 pedal is basically a replica of an overdriven jcm 800, i would set that pedal as your heaviest drive setting and accent it with an overdrive or two in front of it. I do not think the 1991 pedal would work as well with a fuzz or a heavy distortion in front of it because you would basically be slamming a distorted tone with more distortion and that usually equals mud.

that is just my opinion based on experimenting with many different drive circuits going in to many different types of amps. may be different for your setup.

Thanks for your advice!  I have mixed and matched my pedals a lot in the past but for some reason I never thought to put the 1991 behind the OD200 (which can run two drives at once, including OD, bluesbreaker, klon and several others).  

gimmesometruth27

SVRDhand13 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

SVRDhand13 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

I run it as my last dirt pedal just before my modulation and delays. it is good to be able to stack lower gain pedals with it.

I’m curious what do you stack in front of it? 

I have a Boss OD200 after this one but maybe I should flip them. 

i have a wampler tumnus and a protein going in front of it. i have the tumnus, a klon circuit, set on lower gain, going into the protein, which is a bluesbreaker circuit on one side and a nobels odr 1 on the other side, for medium gain, going into the 1991. i never have all 3 on because it can get out of hand, but i will usually have the tumnus on full time with single coils and goose the 1991 with it, or with humbuckers i will have the bluesbreaker side of the protein on full time going into the 1991. to me it is more dynamic, and to clean it up i just rock guitar volume back a bit. works well for me on a fender princeton. my main amps are vintage marshalls and i uses completely different pedals for those amps.

i forgot to say try swapping the order on your pedals and see how it sounds.

since that 1991 pedal is basically a replica of an overdriven jcm 800, i would set that pedal as your heaviest drive setting and accent it with an overdrive or two in front of it. I do not think the 1991 pedal would work as well with a fuzz or a heavy distortion in front of it because you would basically be slamming a distorted tone with more distortion and that usually equals mud.

that is just my opinion based on experimenting with many different drive circuits going in to many different types of amps. may be different for your setup.

Thanks for your advice!  I have mixed and matched my pedals a lot in the past but for some reason I never thought to put the 1991 behind the OD200 (which can run two drives at once, including OD, bluesbreaker, klon and several others).  

i always experiment. i will get a new pedal and i will play around with pedal order. it's a pain if everything is velcroed down, but one pedal can change the whole sound of your rig depending on where you put it in the chain. i know that that 1991 has a lot of gain on tap so in my setup it is best to leave that one at the end of the drives so i could either keep it set at a higher gain and use it by itself, or i can turn the gain down a bit and hit it with a less driven od pedal. if i am going to stack those pedals i would probably have my amp set a little cleaner, like on the edge of breakup, so that it doesn't get too muddy. 

let us know what you think after you play around with it.

mcgruff10

klon overdrive pedals....worth it?  There's a lot of hype around them.   just ordered a mxr analog delay pedal. 

gimmesometruth27

mcgruff10 said:

klon overdrive pedals....worth it?  There's a lot of hype around them.   just ordered a mxr analog delay pedal. 

i love that circuit. it is an overdrive pedal that can also be used as a boost. it is it's own kind of overdrive. there are a ton of clones on the market. nobody can afford what the real klon centaurs are going for, last i checked about $8000. there are so many more affordable options out there. the j rockett archer series, the wampler tumnus, the electroharmonix soul food, all of them sound great. 

i have played 2 real klons in my life, as well as a klon ktr. sure they sound great, but not for what they sell for. 

my other guitar player and i did the pepsi challenge with a gold klon and a silver klon a few years ago. this guy at a local music shop had both of them.  we were blindfolded and would A/B between them and we both agreed that the silver klon sounded better than the gold one. take that for what it is worth.

i do believe everyone needs a klon circuit though. i have a tumnus on my princeton board and on my gig board for my marshalls.