Radiohead tickets are $90 including fees

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  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 27,016
    pjhawks said:
    did any of you people complaining about the price of PJ tickets this time around ever think the reason might be to pay off ticketbastard and others to secure more 10C tickets like they have? Do you really think ticketmaster and these other companies are giving the 10C more tickets this time around out of the goodness of their heart? come on people...
    Good point
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  • rey
    rey Monmouth County, NJ Posts: 307
    pjhawks said:
    did any of you people complaining about the price of PJ tickets this time around ever think the reason might be to pay off ticketbastard and others to secure more 10C tickets like they have? Do you really think ticketmaster and these other companies are giving the 10C more tickets this time around out of the goodness of their heart? come on people...


    I'm sure this has a lot to do with it. 

    It's just is so hard for me to understand (and accept) that TM needs to be paid off so that the band can get access to additional tickets (for their own show!) they can make available to their fan club.   

  • buck502000
    buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    PJ and Radiohead are my two favorite bands. Radiohead plays about 45 minutes to an hour less per show compared to PJ. 

  • kramer73
    kramer73 Posts: 2,634
    ok thanks for the heads up
  • NewJPage
    NewJPage Posts: 3,320
    pjhawks said:
    did any of you people complaining about the price of PJ tickets this time around ever think the reason might be to pay off ticketbastard and others to secure more 10C tickets like they have? Do you really think ticketmaster and these other companies are giving the 10C more tickets this time around out of the goodness of their heart? come on people...
    Not ticketmaster venues
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  • If Radiohead is worth $90, then Pearl Jam is worth about $2000

    This. 
    ... is what I won't pay.
  • NewJPage said:
    pjhawks said:
    did any of you people complaining about the price of PJ tickets this time around ever think the reason might be to pay off ticketbastard and others to secure more 10C tickets like they have? Do you really think ticketmaster and these other companies are giving the 10C more tickets this time around out of the goodness of their heart? come on people...
    Not ticketmaster venues
    +1  5 out of 7 shows are not even run by Ticketmaster.  Ticketmaster sells the tickets provided to them by the promoter.  Ticketmaster doesn't have the power to "give the 10C tickets", that's not how it works.  Ticketmaster doesn't own the tickets in the first place.
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,530
    NewJPage said:
    pjhawks said:
    did any of you people complaining about the price of PJ tickets this time around ever think the reason might be to pay off ticketbastard and others to secure more 10C tickets like they have? Do you really think ticketmaster and these other companies are giving the 10C more tickets this time around out of the goodness of their heart? come on people...
    Not ticketmaster venues
    +1  5 out of 7 shows are not even run by Ticketmaster.  Ticketmaster sells the tickets provided to them by the promoter.  Ticketmaster doesn't have the power to "give the 10C tickets", that's not how it works.  Ticketmaster doesn't own the tickets in the first place.
    But but but TICKETMASTER!!! :bawling:
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,962
    NewJPage said:
    pjhawks said:
    did any of you people complaining about the price of PJ tickets this time around ever think the reason might be to pay off ticketbastard and others to secure more 10C tickets like they have? Do you really think ticketmaster and these other companies are giving the 10C more tickets this time around out of the goodness of their heart? come on people...
    Not ticketmaster venues
    +1  5 out of 7 shows are not even run by Ticketmaster.  Ticketmaster sells the tickets provided to them by the promoter.  Ticketmaster doesn't have the power to "give the 10C tickets", that's not how it works.  Ticketmaster doesn't own the tickets in the first place.
    that's why I said ticketbastard and others.  Do you think ticketmaster did the verified fan deal for free? if you don't think the increased costs for this tour vs last and/or vs Radiohead had at least something to do with 10C getting more tickets than I think you are either crazy or delusional. just my take.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,605
    Of course Ticketmaster got paid for the Verified Fan deal and, yes, that does add to the price of the tickets. But, the prices for concerts at Fenway this year have been astronomical across the board. The venues are no small reason why these prices are what they are.
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  • given2fly23
    given2fly23 Evanston, IL Posts: 6,042
    I don't think Radiohead is on the same level as Pearl Jam (in terms of popularity) in the U.S.

    Pearl Jam Wrigley 2018 - $123/ticket
    Radiohead United Center 2018 - $107/ticket

    Expensive but of course all will sell out.  As a fan of both, I'm thrilled, but I don't know why casual fans pay these prices just to go talk/get drunk/browse their phone during the show.

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  • JH6056
    JH6056 Posts: 2,437
    JimmyV said:
    I'm betting that if Radiohead was playing Fenway their prices would be comparable to Pearl Jam's and if Pearl was playing the TD Garden their prices would be comparable to Radiohead's. You can compare the acts but not the venues. Fenway, Wrigley, Safeco...these places are a big reason why the tickets are so expensive this year. Not the only reason, but a big one.
    Wait, please explain this? Given that stadiums mean literally thousands more tickets to sell, why would the per-ticket price be MORE at a stadium instead of less?
  • pdalowsky
    pdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,235
    I only wonder how many times this horse can be flogged?

    Logging in here after a few days offline to see the same discussions restarted under a different guise is pretty dull


  • given2fly23
    given2fly23 Evanston, IL Posts: 6,042
    JH6056 said:
    JimmyV said:
    I'm betting that if Radiohead was playing Fenway their prices would be comparable to Pearl Jam's and if Pearl was playing the TD Garden their prices would be comparable to Radiohead's. You can compare the acts but not the venues. Fenway, Wrigley, Safeco...these places are a big reason why the tickets are so expensive this year. Not the only reason, but a big one.
    Wait, please explain this? Given that stadiums mean literally thousands more tickets to sell, why would the per-ticket price be MORE at a stadium instead of less?
    There's a lot more to ticket prices than how much they can gross from ticket sales.  I'd imagine a baseball stadium requires MUCH more labor to convert into a concert venue than an arena, many more employees/security, higher rental fee.
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  • I think people complaining about prices need to stop. We do not want Pearl Jam to start tier pricing. $200 for general admission and front half of lower bowl. $150 front half of upper level. $100 for back of lower bowl. $50 for whats left in the upper bowl.
  • JH6056
    JH6056 Posts: 2,437
    edited February 2018
    JH6056 said:
    JimmyV said:
    I'm betting that if Radiohead was playing Fenway their prices would be comparable to Pearl Jam's and if Pearl was playing the TD Garden their prices would be comparable to Radiohead's. You can compare the acts but not the venues. Fenway, Wrigley, Safeco...these places are a big reason why the tickets are so expensive this year. Not the only reason, but a big one.
    Wait, please explain this? Given that stadiums mean literally thousands more tickets to sell, why would the per-ticket price be MORE at a stadium instead of less?
    There's a lot more to ticket prices than how much they can gross from ticket sales.  I'd imagine a baseball stadium requires MUCH more labor to convert into a concert venue than an arena, many more employees/security, higher rental fee.
    That's a reasonable theory, but it is a theory unless you know it to be true. JimmyV stated it as a fact, so I'd like to understand the basis of that, because you need a lot of employees and security for a regular ballgame and tickets are nowhere near as expensive, so even if you need more for a concert, I'm still not convinced the math adds up to making it MORE expensive per ticket.

    For the sake of accurate comparison, TD Garden (the main arena and where Radiohead are playing in Boston) has a seating capacity of 19,580.  Fenway Park has a concert seating capacity of 37,730.  That's almost 20,000 more tickets!!!  This is why it's curious to me that whatever the likely increase in costs is to do the show in a stadium is still so much more that the per-ticket cost is $30.00 or more more? 

    JimmyV please weigh in, why are stadiums more expensive for a concert per ticket than arenas (which, let's remember, also host sports events usually)? 
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  • given2fly23
    given2fly23 Evanston, IL Posts: 6,042
    JH6056 said:
    That's a reasonable theory, but it is a theory unless you know it to be true.
    True, but there's a reason that information isn't public.  Here's an example of the complexity/issues involved in planning a concert:

    http://www.atu2blog.com/u2-at-giants-stadium-a-look-at-the-live-nation-concert-contract/28544/


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  • CantKeepmedown
    CantKeepmedown Portland, Maine Posts: 3,123
    Is it safe to assume that, on top of getting it ready to go for a concert, it's more expensive to "rent" Fenway Park as opposed to TD Garden?  Maybe not.  

    I don't think Radiohead is on the same level as Pearl Jam (in terms of popularity) in the U.S.

    Pearl Jam Wrigley 2018 - $123/ticket
    Radiohead United Center 2018 - $107/ticket

    Expensive but of course all will sell out.  As a fan of both, I'm thrilled, but I don't know why casual fans pay these prices just to go talk/get drunk/browse their phone during the show.

    It's a social thing more than anything.  A night out at Fenway to see a nostalgic band.  For a lot of people, it's an "I was there" type of situation as opposed to many of us who are there for the actual show.  As long as the tickets are paid for, the band will be happy.  They know there will be a large portion of die-hards in the house.  
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,605
    JH6056 said:
    JH6056 said:
    JimmyV said:
    I'm betting that if Radiohead was playing Fenway their prices would be comparable to Pearl Jam's and if Pearl was playing the TD Garden their prices would be comparable to Radiohead's. You can compare the acts but not the venues. Fenway, Wrigley, Safeco...these places are a big reason why the tickets are so expensive this year. Not the only reason, but a big one.
    Wait, please explain this? Given that stadiums mean literally thousands more tickets to sell, why would the per-ticket price be MORE at a stadium instead of less?
    There's a lot more to ticket prices than how much they can gross from ticket sales.  I'd imagine a baseball stadium requires MUCH more labor to convert into a concert venue than an arena, many more employees/security, higher rental fee.
    That's a reasonable theory, but it is a theory unless you know it to be true. JimmyV stated it as a fact, so I'd like to understand the basis of that, because you need a lot of employees and security for a regular ballgame and tickets are nowhere near as expensive, so even if you need more for a concert, I'm still not convinced the math adds up to making it MORE expensive per ticket.

    For the sake of accurate comparison, TD Garden (the main arena and where Radiohead are playing in Boston) has a seating capacity of 19,580.  Fenway Park has a concert seating capacity of 37,730.  That's almost 20,000 more tickets!!!  This is why it's curious to me that whatever the likely increase in costs is to do the show in a stadium is still so much more that the per-ticket cost is $30.00 or more more?  That's $6,000,000.00 more right there!

    JimmyV please weigh in, why are stadiums more expensive for a concert per ticket than arenas (which, let's remember, also host sports events usually)? 
    I don't know. All I know is that this year at Fenway the fees are out of control, and I think those are kicking back to the venue. (I could be wrong.) I posted the info below in another thread.

    https://www.mlb.com/redsox/tickets/concerts

    Def Leppard/Journey
    $185.50 face value
    $37.50 fee
    $4.85 fee
    $227.85

    Billy Joel
    $159.50 face value
    $42.50 fee
    $4.85 fee
    $206.85

    Foo Fighters (Turf seats are gone, these prices are for bowl seating)
    $79 face value
    $23 fee
    $4.85 fee
    $106.85



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  • JH6056
    JH6056 Posts: 2,437
    JH6056 said:
    That's a reasonable theory, but it is a theory unless you know it to be true.
    True, but there's a reason that information isn't public.  Here's an example of the complexity/issues involved in planning a concert:

    http://www.atu2blog.com/u2-at-giants-stadium-a-look-at-the-live-nation-concert-contract/28544/


    Yup, that's some mind-bendingly shady stuff right there.  BUT... it's 99% likely (yes, I made that % up but still... :) ) that it's EXACTLY THE SAME shady stuff whether it's an arena or stadium.  So... question is still the same, seems to me you increase the seats that much but hard to understand the increase in costs that goes so far beyond staffing/security/other costs needed for a ballgame that ticket prices are $20+ more per ticket even though there are 20,000+ more tickets.

    The difference in Seattle is even greater:  
    Key Arena seating capacity: 17,459
    Safeco Field Concert capacity: 47,943

    That is 29,500 MORE TICKETS for Safeco.