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Ed's encore speech at San Diego, 6-5-03.
"You know, this is ridiculous and it's been on my mind all night. I thought this is ridiculous to talk about at a show or a concert, but I just have to talk about it. Are you willing to...
You know I find this one kind of artist, singer, something or other poet actress, whatever, fascinating. This person fascinating. And her name is Jewel. (laughs, cheers)
And for me I'm anticipating her next record so highly I can barely think of anything else. So when I mess up a lyric or I do...it's because I just can't wait for this new Jewel record to come out you see. It's an obsession.
But here's the great news I found out today. That before it even comes out her song, one of her, some...this song, can't wait to hear it. It's actually gonna be I'm not even gonna have to...it's gonna be part of a commercial for uh I think ladies' razors or some other feminine hygiene product (scattered boos)...
So I am just so excited because I don't even have to download anything...I can just watch TV and wait for the commercial. I'm so excited! Wow!
And it's not like ya know, it reminded me of this offer that we turned down. But the best one that we got was for Viagra. And it was a...they showed us these little story boards and it was a singing penis. A little singing cock singing I'M STILL ALIVE. It was really cool. (cheers)
Six Million dollars we turned down to prevent our song to prevent our song to be sung by a cock.
Alright, I'm gonna...if I can forget about Jewel and cocks and something for a second, I'd like to play a song... um and it's uh, I mentioned the Who before and it's a rarity. And uh, sing it for Pete who's my hero." (goes into Blue, Red, and Grey on ukulele)
So maybe Ed saw how well the memory of The Who did selling out with all their music in countless commercials... It all makes sense now!
Remember when Pearl Jam almost canceled a concert in 2000 because the venue had Dodge billboards on the stage? (or something like that)
Wow.
Remember the first time they played Letterman? It's cause it was a commercial free show. From then it turned into their regular talk show circuit, and all the performances have been awesome. Remember all Ed's on stage jokes and speeches about American Idol and Sheryl Crow etc?
I never called Pearl Jam a sell out. Ever. Not when they began using ticketmaster again in '98 (they had to), not when they signed with J Records for Avocado (really, who cares), not when they made videos, not when they played on SNL with Lindsay Lohan, not when they made everyone line up at Tower Records to try to get into a free show, not ever. All of those were logical, common, business and music moves from a band that wanted to let people they're out there.
But, I am afraid, this is Pearl Jam's first Sell Out move.
Perhaps just another Who tribute....
When you put a company's name next to your band's name, you officially have a sponsor. Rolling Stones and Sprint. The Police and Best Buy. Tons more I can't even think of.
Congratulations, Pearl Jam. The 2008 Verizon Tour. This was not done "By fan's request." This was done as part of a bad business deal. Not sure how they got suckered into this one, but it stinks.
Pearl Jam... This Note's For You!
"You know, this is ridiculous and it's been on my mind all night. I thought this is ridiculous to talk about at a show or a concert, but I just have to talk about it. Are you willing to...
You know I find this one kind of artist, singer, something or other poet actress, whatever, fascinating. This person fascinating. And her name is Jewel. (laughs, cheers)
And for me I'm anticipating her next record so highly I can barely think of anything else. So when I mess up a lyric or I do...it's because I just can't wait for this new Jewel record to come out you see. It's an obsession.
But here's the great news I found out today. That before it even comes out her song, one of her, some...this song, can't wait to hear it. It's actually gonna be I'm not even gonna have to...it's gonna be part of a commercial for uh I think ladies' razors or some other feminine hygiene product (scattered boos)...
So I am just so excited because I don't even have to download anything...I can just watch TV and wait for the commercial. I'm so excited! Wow!
And it's not like ya know, it reminded me of this offer that we turned down. But the best one that we got was for Viagra. And it was a...they showed us these little story boards and it was a singing penis. A little singing cock singing I'M STILL ALIVE. It was really cool. (cheers)
Six Million dollars we turned down to prevent our song to prevent our song to be sung by a cock.
Alright, I'm gonna...if I can forget about Jewel and cocks and something for a second, I'd like to play a song... um and it's uh, I mentioned the Who before and it's a rarity. And uh, sing it for Pete who's my hero." (goes into Blue, Red, and Grey on ukulele)
So maybe Ed saw how well the memory of The Who did selling out with all their music in countless commercials... It all makes sense now!
Remember when Pearl Jam almost canceled a concert in 2000 because the venue had Dodge billboards on the stage? (or something like that)
Wow.
Remember the first time they played Letterman? It's cause it was a commercial free show. From then it turned into their regular talk show circuit, and all the performances have been awesome. Remember all Ed's on stage jokes and speeches about American Idol and Sheryl Crow etc?
I never called Pearl Jam a sell out. Ever. Not when they began using ticketmaster again in '98 (they had to), not when they signed with J Records for Avocado (really, who cares), not when they made videos, not when they played on SNL with Lindsay Lohan, not when they made everyone line up at Tower Records to try to get into a free show, not ever. All of those were logical, common, business and music moves from a band that wanted to let people they're out there.
But, I am afraid, this is Pearl Jam's first Sell Out move.
Perhaps just another Who tribute....
When you put a company's name next to your band's name, you officially have a sponsor. Rolling Stones and Sprint. The Police and Best Buy. Tons more I can't even think of.
Congratulations, Pearl Jam. The 2008 Verizon Tour. This was not done "By fan's request." This was done as part of a bad business deal. Not sure how they got suckered into this one, but it stinks.
Pearl Jam... This Note's For You!
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why do you care about this? so it's the verizon tour. big deal. It's like when you tune into the Nokia Sugar Bowl or the Tostitos Fiesta Bowl. Sure it's lame that they're called that. but does it take away from the actual game? of course not.
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Integrity. The band used to have it.
Flame on, fuckers. You know it's true.
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How did they used to have integrity but now they don't? because of the Verizon thing?
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i don't give a rats ass next time if /when they play in your home turf stay home don't go very simple boycott the band ....
Maybe after the whole At&T thing at Lolla last year, they decided to partner up with Verizon???? just a thought.
It doesn't bother me though, I'm in it for the music. They keep putting out great music, and I'll keep coming back for more. I don't give a shit about selling out/integrity or any of that shit....I'm here for the tunes.
and btw, it's obvious that those who are saying, "why do you care," are only saying that cuz they care as well, maybe even more so than you.
maybe they will do a a gateway remix of do the evolution next... who knows?
"can you hear me now?" "good."
nevermind
Actually it can. It makes everything feel so superficial. Like American Idol. No substance.
I don't feel that way about Pearl Jam, though.
-Reagan
since large groups of people dont pay for the music anymore, they have to make some money
and just because they are using the service to distribute the boots, why does that make them a sell out.
Like American Idol with no substance? WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!?!?!?!?!?!
It's going to be like any other pearl jam show. it's not like Ed's going to have "Verizon" written on his guitar!
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its not a shot at PJ... just dont get the move... the option to get the physical CD this tour definitely outweights the negative of this whole verizon option... and its not like verizon will have anything to do with the shows themselves as theyre happening (as far as i understand)... itll just be after the fact to get the music to fans (with fancy phones
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Pretty sad that you had such a great introduction to such a pathetic post. Did you not read it correctly? you are offered one FREE song and have the OPTION to buy 2 more songs from each show. name ONE band or anything from the absolute rip-off corporation that is Verizon where you are allowed something for free. Its not like its buy 2 songs get one free, its get one song free, and buy 2 more if you want. Even when Pearl Jam "sells out", they do it for the fans. Not to mention they are making it charitable by allowing you to donate old phones at the concerts.
If anything, this verizon deal made me more proud to be a PJ fan.
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I dont think it is. OP is just wrong.
Read more carefully and lay off the speed.
-Reagan
If they are the tour sponsers as well I totally disagree. Things have changed the past 4-5 years. I'm still going to enjoy the shows - but when hear lyrics like soon forget....well perhaps not the same.
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Sort of what I was thinking. Plus can you imagine how hard the 10club servers would crash if they tried to do downloads through their own site. Half the time they can barely handle poster sales.
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=286884&highlight=pirate
are part of the reason, since there's no longer any money to be made in record sales.
dammit MatthewJoesph, I did read it carefully and the capitalization was to create the effect that I was yelling, not talking quickly.
here's the post in question that I didn't read carefully enough:
so I guess you're saying that I didn't comment on how it'll feel "superficial" like American Idol. Well, American Idol isn't superficial because of sponsors or advertising, as you're suggesting that PJ sponsored by Verizon will. American Idol is superficial with no substance because it's just people doing karaoke and for some reason, those people get the national attention that actual artists deserve.
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
I don't feel that way about Pearl Jam, I feel that way about watching sports that are over sponsored. The feeling I get while doing that is comparable to the feeling I get while watching American Idol.
-Reagan