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  • kce8
    kce8 Posts: 1,636
    PJ_Soul said:
    I hope my parents just drop dead. I know the chances of that are slim to none, unfortunately, but I still hope for it. My parents don't want to go slowly, and I don't want to have to watch them go that way either. I hope I just drop dead too. Long slow deaths are horrible and so common. Talk about traumatic for everyone (pretty sure they will both be all over doctor assisted suicide if needed, but right now Canada has a lot of work to do to make that law adequate. Right now it still necessitates suffering. Just not quite as much suffering).

    I think that's exactly what we are all hoping for PJ Soul!
    And I really wish that for everybody.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    PJ_Soul said:
    I hope my parents just drop dead. I know the chances of that are slim to none, unfortunately, but I still hope for it. My parents don't want to go slowly, and I don't want to have to watch them go that way either. I hope I just drop dead too. Long slow deaths are horrible and so common. Talk about traumatic for everyone (pretty sure they will both be all over doctor assisted suicide if needed, but right now Canada has a lot of work to do to make that law adequate. Right now it still necessitates suffering. Just not quite as much suffering).
    My grandfather always had an afternoon beer then took a nap. One day he didn’t wake up after having a heart attack. To me that s a good way to go. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,655
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I hope my parents just drop dead. I know the chances of that are slim to none, unfortunately, but I still hope for it. My parents don't want to go slowly, and I don't want to have to watch them go that way either. I hope I just drop dead too. Long slow deaths are horrible and so common. Talk about traumatic for everyone (pretty sure they will both be all over doctor assisted suicide if needed, but right now Canada has a lot of work to do to make that law adequate. Right now it still necessitates suffering. Just not quite as much suffering).
    My grandfather always had an afternoon beer then took a nap. One day he didn’t wake up after having a heart attack. To me that s a good way to go. 
    That is a wonderful way to go. Good for your grandfather (I hope you know what I mean by that!).
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    I want to go out like Tony Montana.










    Jk lol
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    PJ_Soul said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I hope my parents just drop dead. I know the chances of that are slim to none, unfortunately, but I still hope for it. My parents don't want to go slowly, and I don't want to have to watch them go that way either. I hope I just drop dead too. Long slow deaths are horrible and so common. Talk about traumatic for everyone (pretty sure they will both be all over doctor assisted suicide if needed, but right now Canada has a lot of work to do to make that law adequate. Right now it still necessitates suffering. Just not quite as much suffering).
    My grandfather always had an afternoon beer then took a nap. One day he didn’t wake up after having a heart attack. To me that s a good way to go. 
    That is a wonderful way to go. Good for your grandfather (I hope you know what I mean by that!).
    I know what you are saying Allie.  My only regret is that he passed away when I was in second grade; he was one hell of a person.  He dropped out of school in second grade to get a job in order to help his family during the Great Depression.  He was a WW2 vet that saw active combat in Europe, helped built the twin towers, and was one hell of a fisherman.  I often think about him.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,010
    i'm 42 and single. i typically have long relationships and go long periods free and single. i have never thought about dying alone. i always assumed i would go after i have settled down with a wife and kids at some point in my 80s. never really gave it much thought.

    until last night.

    i got a call from my mom at about 10:30 pm. she said that my uncle John was found dead in his bed yesterday evening. he was 58. he was married and had 5 kids, 4 of which were on their own out of state. my youngest cousin is in high school and still lives at home. 

    since he was only 15 years older than me he was more like a big brother. i was close to him when i was growing up. he had more of an influence on my life than my own father. you don't really think about how people impact you until it is too late and you are forced to do a retrospective. then it hits you. he is the one that got me in to hockey at age 4. he got me in to rock n roll a little later. he is the reason i played hockey for all those years through college and grad school. he is the family member responsible for me picking up a guitar. without him and his influence i don't know who I would be today.

    i last saw him christmas eve, and last talked to him on the phone about something I don't even recall in mid january.

    his wife and daughter were out of town in florida for a school function over this past weekend. they got suspicious when he did not answer his phone sunday night or all day monday. they left voicemails and then his mailbox was full and he did not return any calls. his wife got a call that he did not go to work monday or tuesday and work could not reach him, she called the police and asked them to do a welfare check and they found him alone in his bed last night. 

    i'm still numb. he was very gregarious and was the life of the party and was the one uncle that kind of kept the family together after my grandmother died. he passed away alone. he deserved better than that, but nobody knew he was going to die. 

    i don't want to die alone. 
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    i'm 42 and single. i typically have long relationships and go long periods free and single. i have never thought about dying alone. i always assumed i would go after i have settled down with a wife and kids at some point in my 80s. never really gave it much thought.

    until last night.

    i got a call from my mom at about 10:30 pm. she said that my uncle John was found dead in his bed yesterday evening. he was 58. he was married and had 5 kids, 4 of which were on their own out of state. my youngest cousin is in high school and still lives at home. 

    since he was only 15 years older than me he was more like a big brother. i was close to him when i was growing up. he had more of an influence on my life than my own father. you don't really think about how people impact you until it is too late and you are forced to do a retrospective. then it hits you. he is the one that got me in to hockey at age 4. he got me in to rock n roll a little later. he is the reason i played hockey for all those years through college and grad school. he is the family member responsible for me picking up a guitar. without him and his influence i don't know who I would be today.

    i last saw him christmas eve, and last talked to him on the phone about something I don't even recall in mid january.

    his wife and daughter were out of town in florida for a school function over this past weekend. they got suspicious when he did not answer his phone sunday night or all day monday. they left voicemails and then his mailbox was full and he did not return any calls. his wife got a call that he did not go to work monday or tuesday and work could not reach him, she called the police and asked them to do a welfare check and they found him alone in his bed last night. 

    i'm still numb. he was very gregarious and was the life of the party and was the one uncle that kind of kept the family together after my grandmother died. he passed away alone. he deserved better than that, but nobody knew he was going to die. 

    i don't want to die alone. 
    So sorry about your loss.
    Me being 15 years older than my niece makes me feel like her big brother.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • i'm 42 and single. i typically have long relationships and go long periods free and single. i have never thought about dying alone. i always assumed i would go after i have settled down with a wife and kids at some point in my 80s. never really gave it much thought.

    until last night.

    i got a call from my mom at about 10:30 pm. she said that my uncle John was found dead in his bed yesterday evening. he was 58. he was married and had 5 kids, 4 of which were on their own out of state. my youngest cousin is in high school and still lives at home. 

    since he was only 15 years older than me he was more like a big brother. i was close to him when i was growing up. he had more of an influence on my life than my own father. you don't really think about how people impact you until it is too late and you are forced to do a retrospective. then it hits you. he is the one that got me in to hockey at age 4. he got me in to rock n roll a little later. he is the reason i played hockey for all those years through college and grad school. he is the family member responsible for me picking up a guitar. without him and his influence i don't know who I would be today.

    i last saw him christmas eve, and last talked to him on the phone about something I don't even recall in mid january.

    his wife and daughter were out of town in florida for a school function over this past weekend. they got suspicious when he did not answer his phone sunday night or all day monday. they left voicemails and then his mailbox was full and he did not return any calls. his wife got a call that he did not go to work monday or tuesday and work could not reach him, she called the police and asked them to do a welfare check and they found him alone in his bed last night. 

    i'm still numb. he was very gregarious and was the life of the party and was the one uncle that kind of kept the family together after my grandmother died. he passed away alone. he deserved better than that, but nobody knew he was going to die. 

    i don't want to die alone. 
    Gee.

    Sad. Sorry about this.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • RYME
    RYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    edited February 2018
    rgambs said:
    I've watched a few people die and I'm convinced we all die alone and that's ok.
    The moment of the last breath usually comes much, much slower than people think, often even in more sudden deaths than natural causes.
    I think the percentage of people who are aware of their last breath is next to zero, and in that moment you are alone inside yourself, if you still exist at all.
    It's nice for the survivors to feel that it was good that someone was there, I sat that vigil myself for my uncle, but I don't think it matters at all to the departing. 
    I watched my uncle die. It was terrifying to see. it was 20 years ago and I'll never forget it. 

    Promoting my religion isn't it.  I don't get payed to say what I say.  I'm referring to Thirty Bills. 
    I do enjoy trying to provide greving people with a few comforting words.  
    People can take or leave what I say, I don't know why people get offended when My wish is to bring a little comfort to anyone struggling with the loss of a loved one.
    Your uncle Hugh, is in a much better place right now, he probably Watches Over You, He's not gone, he's not out here in a cold hole in the ground somewhere.  The Flesh usually gets cremated or buried when it dies, but the spirit lives on. 
    Your uncle, family members, frends, loved ones are very much alive and in that parallel dimension which is what heaven is.  Heaven is not some place far far away up in the sky somewhere at the other end of the Galaxy, it's right here.
    We cannot see that other dimension when we are in the flesh.  To be absent from the flesh body is to be present with the Lord.  Corinthians chapter 5 verse 8 is where you'll find that documented.
    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Corinthians+5&version=KJV
    We have two bodies, a flesh body & a spirit body.
    Your spirit body lives inside your flesh body when you're in the flesh. When the flesh body dies your flesh body returns to the ground, (flesh bodies are basically made out of clay or dirt to put it bluntly) and your spirit body (made out of a totally different substance) goes to that other dimension where you will be present with the Lord and those loved friends and relatives that have passed on along the way before you.  
    Now,,, if people here don't like what I just said that's fine let it go, and I'll let it go.
    If it provides a little bit of comfort knowing that you're loved ones and relatives are not gone I would think that would be a good thing.
    And Hugh, maby you can finally have  some peace of mind, even though you watched your uncle's flesh body die, He is not gone & you will see him again.
    Go in peace.
    Post edited by RYME on
  • Ryme... you're messing up the quotes. You're typing in the quoted area and then things kind of get jumbled.

    Please make sure you're below the quoted section when you start going to work on a post.

    I'm not pointing this out to suggest anything or belittle you. It's happened a few times lately and to keep things clearer... it's better when each post everybody offers stands uniquely upon presentation to the community.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • RYME
    RYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    edited February 2018
    Ryme... you're messing up the quotes. You're typing in the quoted area and then things kind of get jumbled.

    Please make sure you're below the quoted section when you start going to work on a post.

    I'm not pointing this out to suggest anything or belittle you. It's happened a few times lately and to keep things clearer... it's better when each post everybody offers stands uniquely upon presentation to the community.
    I don't know why it sometimes does that to me. I start typing in the white section and then it bounces my words up into somebody else's gray quote. If you could tell me how to avoid that I would appreciate it.
    Now the same thing happened at to thoughts arrive.
    Post edited by RYME on
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Ryme... you're messing up the quotes. You're typing in the quoted area and then things kind of get jumbled.

    Please make sure you're below the quoted section when you start going to work on a post.

    I'm not pointing this out to suggest anything or belittle you. It's happened a few times lately and to keep things clearer... it's better when each post everybody offers stands uniquely upon presentation to the community.

    I completely agree, hard to read otherwise.

    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    RYME said:
    Ryme... you're messing up the quotes. You're typing in the quoted area and then things kind of get jumbled.

    Please make sure you're below the quoted section when you start going to work on a post.

    I'm not pointing this out to suggest anything or belittle you. It's happened a few times lately and to keep things clearer... it's better when each post everybody offers stands uniquely upon presentation to the community.
    I don't know why it sometimes does that to me. I start typing in the white section and then it bounces my words up into somebody else's gray quote. If you could tell me how to avoid that I would appreciate it.
    happens to me all the time. I then have to refresh the screen to get it out of the box.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • It happens to me sometimes too.

    When I start typing... I now always check to make sure I'm below the quoted section. If I notice I'm in the quoted section... I quit and start again.

    It's an easy mistake to make- especially on a mobile device.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    edited February 2018
    It doesn't make sense that the updates to this site have made it shittier.

    Once you end up in the other persons quote box you're pretty much fucked and you need to bail out and start over, never used to be like that.
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    dignin said:
    It doesn't make sense that the updates to this site have made it shittier.

    Once you end up in the other persons quote box you're pretty much fucked and you need to bail out and start over, never used to be like that.
    Has anyone raised it with Kat/Sea?
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    RYME said:
    Ryme... you're messing up the quotes. You're typing in the quoted area and then things kind of get jumbled.

    Please make sure you're below the quoted section when you start going to work on a post.

    I'm not pointing this out to suggest anything or belittle you. It's happened a few times lately and to keep things clearer... it's better when each post everybody offers stands uniquely upon presentation to the community.
    I don't know why it sometimes does that to me. I start typing in the white section and then it bounces my words up into somebody else's gray quote. If you could tell me how to avoid that I would appreciate it.
    Now the same thing happened at to thoughts arrive.
    It happens to me when auto-correct fills in the first word of my post, usually happens on words with an apostrophe because I don't bother typing it.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • RYME
    RYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    My comment accidentally ended up in your quote. So I'll just bring it down so we can continue the conversation.
  • RYME
    RYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    edited February 2018
    RYME said:
    rgambs said:
    I've watched a few people die and I'm convinced we all die alone and that's ok.
    The moment of the last breath usually comes much, much slower than people think, often even in more sudden deaths than natural causes.
    I think the percentage of people who are aware of their last breath is next to zero, and in that moment you are alone inside yourself, if you still exist at all.
    It's nice for the survivors to feel that it was good that someone was there, I sat that vigil myself for my uncle, but I don't think it matters at all to the departing. 
    I watched my uncle die. It was terrifying to see. it was 20 years ago and I'll never forget it. 

    Promoting my religion isn't it.  I don't get payed to say what I say.  I'm referring to Thirty Bills. 
    I do enjoy trying to provide greving people with a few comforting words.  
    People can take or leave what I say, I don't know why people get offended when My wish is to bring a little comfort to anyone struggling with the loss of a loved one.
    Your uncle Hugh, is in a much better place right now, he probably Watches Over You, He's not gone, he's not out here in a cold hole in the ground somewhere.  The Flesh usually gets cremated or buried when it dies, but the spirit lives on. 
    Your uncle, family members, frends, loved ones are very much alive and in that parallel dimension which is what heaven is.  Heaven is not some place far far away up in the sky somewhere at the other end of the Galaxy, it's right here.
    We cannot see that other dimension when we are in the flesh.  To be absent from the flesh body is to be present with the Lord.  Corinthians chapter 5 verse 8 is where you'll find that documented.
    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Corinthians+5&version=KJV
    We have two bodies, a flesh body & a spirit body.
    Your spirit body lives inside your flesh body when you're in the flesh. When the flesh body dies your flesh body returns to the ground, (flesh bodies are basically made out of clay or dirt to put it bluntly) and your spirit body (made out of a totally different substance) goes to that other dimension where you will be present with the Lord and those loved friends and relatives that have passed on along the way before you.  
    Now,,, if people here don't like what I just said that's fine let it go, and I'll let it go.
    If it provides a little bit of comfort knowing that you're loved ones and relatives are not gone I would think that would be a good thing.
    And Hugh, maby you can finally have  some peace of mind, even though you watched your uncle's flesh body die, He is not gone & you will see him again.
    Go in peace.
    ... I was having technical difficulties sorry to bring it down again.
    Post edited by RYME on
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    Ryme... you're messing up the quotes. You're typing in the quoted area and then things kind of get jumbled.

    Please make sure you're below the quoted section when you start going to work on a post.

    I'm not pointing this out to suggest anything or belittle you. It's happened a few times lately and to keep things clearer... it's better when each post everybody offers stands uniquely upon presentation to the community.
    the way I figured it out, if I backspace into the preceding quote by accident, I just hit F5 (!) to refresh the page and try again. that way my words don't go into anyone else's quote. You'd think the software wouldn't allow people to alter others' quotes, but what do I know? 
    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall