After Wrigley 2018, never again either. The diminished concert experience just wasnt worth the money, travel, time off, etc.
Im happy I saw rain in the rain from miles away in 18, but id not do it again. Seats or im out. Id do fenway just because my number gets me nice and close.
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Never understood the hate for ballpark shows. Everyone involved has a great time and there are always plenty of surprises. Not to mention the city overrun with more PJ fans than you’d typically see. They’ll be plenty of options next year but stadiums every couple of years is a niche this band thrives in.
To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."
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Never understood the hate for ballpark shows. Everyone involved has a great time and there are always plenty of surprises. Not to mention the city overrun with more PJ fans than you’d typically see. They’ll be plenty of options next year but stadiums every couple of years is a niche this band thrives in.
Absolutely agreed. They become like mini fan conventions. Wrigley 2013 and Seattle 2018 felt like we had taken over both cities.
Meh. States that can't get their shit together well enough not to vote for Trump shouldn't be rewarded.
They have fans that didn't vote for Trump in every state. If they want to screen their destinations based on red/blue, that's their choice obviously, but I give them more credit than to make that the litmus for show locations.
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The whole world will be different soon... - EV
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
Meh. States that can't get their shit together well enough not to vote for Trump shouldn't be rewarded.
They have fans that didn't vote for Trump in every state. If they want to screen their destinations based on red/blue, that's their choice obviously, but I give them more credit than to make that the litmus for show locations.
I don't disagree at all. I guess I should have said, "States that can't get their shit together well enough not to vote for Trump shouldn't be rewarded because of that."
The band is going to play where the band is going to play, and I doubt red/blue is really much of a consideration.
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Never understood the hate for ballpark shows. Everyone involved has a great time and there are always plenty of surprises. Not to mention the city overrun with more PJ fans than you’d typically see. They’ll be plenty of options next year but stadiums every couple of years is a niche this band thrives in.
I am a mile and a half away and the sound quality is diminished, if not distorted at times. Unless I go into a giant GA pit with all sorts of competition for personal space. The whole scene is very open-air and the very opposite of 'intimate'. From a $200? seat last year, I couldn't even see Mike 70% of the time as he was blocked by the rigging/stage, and couldnt see the drum kit at all. Had to watch on the screen for the most part.
The venues themselves (like Wrigley) arent designed for that many humans. Everything is packed and uncomfortable, whether its the streets around the stadium, gates to get in, or the concourses.
The weather uncertainty, with the urgency of lots of $$$ spent for travel.
The merch conventions blown up. 4-6 posters for the show(s). I realize we get this with more conventional shows, but with these ballpark shows the merch thing is injected with roids.
And yes, a Pearl Jam concert is still a concert. But for me, to take multiple days off of work, pay money for flights, beg parents or in-laws to watch the kids for a few days, board the dog, pay for hotel room, etc, the ballpark show is not enough of a payoff of a concert experience. There is a lot of alternative things I would rather do with that currency than see a ballpark show.
Never understood the hate for ballpark shows. Everyone involved has a great time and there are always plenty of surprises. Not to mention the city overrun with more PJ fans than you’d typically see. They’ll be plenty of options next year but stadiums every couple of years is a niche this band thrives in.
I am a mile and a half away and the sound quality is diminished, if not distorted at times. Unless I go into a giant GA pit with all sorts of competition for personal space. The whole scene is very open-air and the very opposite of 'intimate'. From a $200? seat last year, I couldn't even see Mike 70% of the time as he was blocked by the rigging/stage, and couldnt see the drum kit at all. Had to watch on the screen for the most part.
The venues themselves (like Wrigley) arent designed for that many humans. Everything is packed and uncomfortable, whether its the streets around the stadium, gates to get in, or the concourses.
The weather uncertainty, with the urgency of lots of $$$ spent for travel.
The merch conventions blown up. 4-6 posters for the show(s). I realize we get this with more conventional shows, but with these ballpark shows the merch thing is injected with roids.
And yes, a Pearl Jam concert is still a concert. But for me, to take multiple days off of work, pay money for flights, beg parents or in-laws to watch the kids for a few days, board the dog, pay for hotel room, etc, the ballpark show is not enough of a payoff of a concert experience. There is a lot of alternative things I would rather do with that currency than see a ballpark show.
Yeah, I'm pretty much with you. If they play Fenway again, I'll go, but I'm definitely ready to get back to arena shows. I'm happy it was all reserved seating, though. GA would make it a tougher call.
I know this makes me public enemy number 1 in this place but a return to Hyde Park for the 10th anniversary of the first time they played there would be great.
"Hey Eddie, great show-- fuck you!" PJ - London 25/6/10, Manchester 20/6/12 + 21/6/12, Isle of Wight 23/6/12, Seattle 6/12/13, Leeds 8/7/14, Milton Keynes 11/7/14, Boston 5/8/16 + 7/8/16 Ed - London 31/7/12, Amsterdam 27/5/17 + 30/5/17, London 6/6/17 + 7/6/17
I know this makes me public enemy number 1 in this place but a return to Hyde Park for the 10th anniversary of the first time they played there would be great.
Public Enemy #1? I don't even think that puts you on the Ten Most Wanted List.
Yeah, I'm not going to NOT go to Fenway, should it happen. But given the choice between a couple shows at TD Garden and Hartford, I'm picking the latter every time.
Prague 2018 was phenomenal in part that it was an arena. Even though a big place it still has a much better atmosphere than a stadium.
Absolutely! That was my first ever PJ show after 27 frickin' years...and it was mindblowing. I never thought that an arena show could be intimate, but Prague 2018 pulled it off. As much as I like travelling for gigs, I shure hope they'll do the Nordic countries on the next Euro tour...they completely got overseen in 2018.
If that is what it looks like, I probably will choose to punt. I dunno. It just felt like going to ballpark shows was just another 'feather in the cap' and I was just going through the motions to check off another show. It didnt really feel like a PJ concert.
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"...I changed by not changing at all..."
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
The band is going to play where the band is going to play, and I doubt red/blue is really much of a consideration.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
What a bunch of nonsense.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
The venues themselves (like Wrigley) arent designed for that many humans. Everything is packed and uncomfortable, whether its the streets around the stadium, gates to get in, or the concourses.
The weather uncertainty, with the urgency of lots of $$$ spent for travel.
The merch conventions blown up. 4-6 posters for the show(s). I realize we get this with more conventional shows, but with these ballpark shows the merch thing is injected with roids.
And yes, a Pearl Jam concert is still a concert. But for me, to take multiple days off of work, pay money for flights, beg parents or in-laws to watch the kids for a few days, board the dog, pay for hotel room, etc, the ballpark show is not enough of a payoff of a concert experience. There is a lot of alternative things I would rather do with that currency than see a ballpark show.
Wetlands 91
CBGB 91
Roseland 91
and many, many more
PJ - London 25/6/10, Manchester 20/6/12 + 21/6/12, Isle of Wight 23/6/12, Seattle 6/12/13, Leeds 8/7/14, Milton Keynes 11/7/14, Boston 5/8/16 + 7/8/16
Ed - London 31/7/12, Amsterdam 27/5/17 + 30/5/17, London 6/6/17 + 7/6/17
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And arenas, not stadiums.
Here to die.
Scared alive.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
"They will be back at Wrigley next year" "Next Season"
I could listen to it btw in Canada.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
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Cincinnati 2014
Greenville 2016
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Columbia 2016
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As much as I like travelling for gigs, I shure hope they'll do the Nordic countries on the next Euro tour...they completely got overseen in 2018.
If that is what it looks like, I probably will choose to punt. I dunno. It just felt like going to ballpark shows was just another 'feather in the cap' and I was just going through the motions to check off another show. It didnt really feel like a PJ concert.