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have you guys noticed that the soundgarden mark of the beast logo from king animal looks a lot like the twitter hashtag?
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helplessdancer said:HesCalledDyer said:I am truly amazed at the number of people who don't have smartphones.
what is with society's want/need for the latest Iphone 10. i read somewhere that it cost large dollars...why do people need that? people were lined up outside the best buy the night before they went on sale...all night in line to get one. why?
a friend of the family had to have a blu ray player as soon as they hit the market. know what he paid? over $600 for one and there weren't even a ton of movies out then. me, i waited and got my for $99 a 4 years later
i sat in our lunch room a month ago for lunch and was shocked at the amount of younger people sitting at the one large table paying attention to no one else but had their heads bent down hanging out on social media...what is wrong with people? the young kids don't even know how to carry on a real conversation...
my niece who is less than 10 years old is on social media. why? is that necessary? know what her dad found on her phone one day? a dick picture...and now it's major damage control
i was at a party recently with some old HS pals who all have smart phones and one of them left his phone at another friend's house and was without a phone for the night. he stressed about it way more than he should have. it was ridiculus...
i read very recently even the new chief dude at facebook says social media is bad for young kids yet both my neice and nephew have smart phones and are on facebook and do facetime. bullying happens mostly on social media is my guess.
facebook is a complete waste on time. so its twitter and instagram and etc. i don't care about the latest great cat video...those are not going to make my life any richer.
i don't have a smart phone and i will be honest the only time recently that i thought i should get one was for uber.
anyways i am glad to be old school and could care less what people might think of my phone LOL
rant not AT you...just a general rant about society
I would be lost with out my smart phone now, and i truely realise how dumb that is. But that seems to be the way life is moving, and I dont ever see it going back. Every train station these days has a plaform of people staring at little screens.0 -
helplessdancer said:HesCalledDyer said:I am truly amazed at the number of people who don't have smartphones.
what is with society's want/need for the latest Iphone 10. i read somewhere that it cost large dollars...why do people need that? people were lined up outside the best buy the night before they went on sale...all night in line to get one. why?
a friend of the family had to have a blu ray player as soon as they hit the market. know what he paid? over $600 for one and there weren't even a ton of movies out then. me, i waited and got my for $99 a 4 years later
i sat in our lunch room a month ago for lunch and was shocked at the amount of younger people sitting at the one large table paying attention to no one else but had their heads bent down hanging out on social media...what is wrong with people? the young kids don't even know how to carry on a real conversation...
my niece who is less than 10 years old is on social media. why? is that necessary? know what her dad found on her phone one day? a dick picture...and now it's major damage control
i was at a party recently with some old HS pals who all have smart phones and one of them left his phone at another friend's house and was without a phone for the night. he stressed about it way more than he should have. it was ridiculus...
i read very recently even the new chief dude at facebook says social media is bad for young kids yet both my neice and nephew have smart phones and are on facebook and do facetime. bullying happens mostly on social media is my guess.
facebook is a complete waste on time. so its twitter and instagram and etc. i don't care about the latest great cat video...those are not going to make my life any richer.
i don't have a smart phone and i will be honest the only time recently that i thought i should get one was for uber.
anyways i am glad to be old school and could care less what people might think of my phone LOL
rant not AT you...just a general rant about society
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I have a smart phone only because I got it for free. But I don't wanna carry my stupid phone all night! And I like to keep my ticket stubs too.Post edited by kaseylily on0
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helplessdancer said:
hold the phone! and let's spin this around to talk about what is truly shocking IMOHesCalledDyer said:I am truly amazed at the number of people who don't have smartphones.
what is with society's want/need for the latest Iphone 10. i read somewhere that it cost large dollars...why do people need that? people were lined up outside the best buy the night before they went on sale...all night in line to get one. why?
a friend of the family had to have a blu ray player as soon as they hit the market. know what he paid? over $600 for one and there weren't even a ton of movies out then. me, i waited and got my for $99 a 4 years later
i sat in our lunch room a month ago for lunch and was shocked at the amount of younger people sitting at the one large table paying attention to no one else but had their heads bent down hanging out on social media...what is wrong with people? the young kids don't even know how to carry on a real conversation...
my niece who is less than 10 years old is on social media. why? is that necessary? know what her dad found on her phone one day? a dick picture...and now it's major damage control
i was at a party recently with some old HS pals who all have smart phones and one of them left his phone at another friend's house and was without a phone for the night. he stressed about it way more than he should have. it was ridiculus...
i read very recently even the new chief dude at facebook says social media is bad for young kids yet both my neice and nephew have smart phones and are on facebook and do facetime. bullying happens mostly on social media is my guess.
facebook is a complete waste on time. so its twitter and instagram and etc. i don't care about the latest great cat video...those are not going to make my life any richer.
i don't have a smart phone and i will be honest the only time recently that i thought i should get one was for uber.
anyways i am glad to be old school and could care less what people might think of my phone LOL
rant not AT you...just a general rant about society
Some great points here. I had a flip phone until 2013 when my oldest son started college. I knew he would need one being in that environment, as the bus system there, as well as many other campus services used smartphone apps to access them. The upgrade for my family for 4 lines only raised our bill by about $10 a month on our plan, and the phones were free (Galaxy S3's), so we all got them. We've all only upgraded our phones once since then (me and my sons have S5's and my wife an S6.) Yeah, we're a few models behind, but they work just fine for our needs, and I've gotten them all for $200 or less on Amazon. I REFUSE to pay several hundred dollars for or lease a brand new one. Outside of phone calls and texts, I use mine primarily for e-mail, Facebook, online banking, and my home security system.iOnlyownMymind said:
A good post right there. I won't get into my own personal rant about them, but it is along the lines you mentioned, plus the cost of the actual phone that is designed to crap out or go obsolete within a couple years and end up in a landfill is absurd.lastexit78 said:What's the reasoning for the no hard ticket stance? Environmental? You force say even a handful of fans to buy phones and right there you have harmed the environment way more 50,000 pieces of paper being printed. The amount of fossil fuels and other damaging environmental ingredients like the precious metals that go into making a phone surpass anything that printing out some tickets would. Not to mention we don't even know what the effects of the radiation are and probably won't for a generation.
Hey I own one, and sorry for the rant but it's just obnoxious that the expectation is we all need one. There are a lot of times I wish I didn't have one and I'm honestly envious of those who live happily without them.
I do find it funny though, how on one hand, everyone's going to smartphone-based ticketing, while on the other, banning phones at concerts or utilizing something like those Yondr pouches.
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I have a smartphone because it is unbelievably useful. I don't use it when I'm with people, I don't just stare at it everywhere I go and I don't hold it up in the air at concerts. But I do use it to settle bets, lol, for directions and as a navigator, as a camera and video camera that actually works pretty damn well, to immediately get addresses, phone numbers, important documents, store hours, where I can go for something I specifically decide I want, I can get up to the minute reporting when something major happens, it is invaluable in an emergency, I can use an app to get a cab, I can use other apps to avoid line ups, I have live updates if the transit system goes down, and it definitely gives me something to occupy myself with when I'm just sitting there, alone, waiting for shit. I have whole libraries of books in my pocket, I have access to pretty much every movie or show ever made in my pocket... that is very handy if I'm sitting in a doctor's office forever, or in an eternal queue at the passport office, or whatever. I don't have to be at home when tickets go on sale, and I when I'm having any trouble with any account or encounter issues in person somewhere, be it with ticketmaster, or with my bank, or whatever, I have an immediate resource with which to get it sorted out. And now I have a hassle-free experience with 10C tickets too, lol. I LOVE smartphones for all these reason. Yes, I agree, some people are way too addicted to them. But for many others, these things are simply magic. It's not good to psychologically throw the baby out with the bathwater! Just because some people use them in a way that seems negative, it doesn't mean it's a negative technology.
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Look. There are ways around everything but they are trying to tone down scalpers and 10c members themselves that have games the system. There still will be ways but this makes it harder. As for the credit card scanning and than getting tickets. Scalpers have that figured out too. We bought GA for U2 in Phoenix in 2014 from the secondary market and they sent my friend a credit card in the mail.0
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iOnlyownMymind said:you can't get in the door with 10 club tickets? Am I reading that right? I may be the only one out there, but I don't have a smart phone. Also, no physical ticket is just lame!! I collect those!
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trees said:iOnlyownMymind said:you can't get in the door with 10 club tickets? Am I reading that right? I may be the only one out there, but I don't have a smart phone. Also, no physical ticket is just lame!! I collect those!
PS - you're getting radiated just by walking around, smartphone or no smartphone. I wouldn't worry about it.
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PJForceofNature said:go pre said:Yeah, I'm still hanging on to my flip phone. I hope it all works out if I get tickets.
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trees said:PJForceofNature said:go pre said:Yeah, I'm still hanging on to my flip phone. I hope it all works out if I get tickets.
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People who resist technology......it's not like a smart phone costs a lot, and actually they can be pretty convenient at times.....reminds me of my friend who buys cds, rips them to his computer, transfers them to an iPod then puts the cd in a cupboard never to be seen again. AND he has Spotify, where he could just download the record anyway, and if you want a decent physical copy you'd be better off buying vinyl. Some people need a serious conversation with themselves!0
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facepollution said:People who resist technology......it's not like a smart phone costs a lot, and actually they can be pretty convenient at times.....reminds me of my friend who buys cds, rips them to his computer, transfers them to an iPod then puts the cd in a cupboard never to be seen again. AND he has Spotify, where he could just download the record anyway, and if you want a decent physical copy you'd be better off buying vinyl. Some people need a serious conversation with themselves!
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PJ_Soul said:trees said:PJForceofNature said:go pre said:Yeah, I'm still hanging on to my flip phone. I hope it all works out if I get tickets.
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PJ_Soul said:trees said:iOnlyownMymind said:you can't get in the door with 10 club tickets? Am I reading that right? I may be the only one out there, but I don't have a smart phone. Also, no physical ticket is just lame!! I collect those!
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This is great i just wish it was announced in the tickets info when it was released.then i wouldn't have wasted my time on here trying to figure it out but all is well now .peace out
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This is great i just wish it was announced in the tickets info when it was released.then i wouldn't have wasted my time on here trying to figure it out but all is well now .peace out
It also would've been nice if they could let us know how they will sort this out. Unless, ther is a reason why they haven't, yet?0
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