So if you don't own a smart phone.......

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  • iOnlyownMymind
    iOnlyownMymind Posts: 2,965
    openingbandforthesun said:
    Here's the response I received.  

    No problem. If you end up getting tickets through the pre-sale just shoot us an email explaining you don't have a smart phone and we'll get you sorted.
    Nice, I emailed as well but haven't heard anything yet.  I wonder what that means exactly but sounds like there will be ways to get by.  
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    iOnlyownMymind said:
    openingbandforthesun said:
    Here's the response I received.  

    No problem. If you end up getting tickets through the pre-sale just shoot us an email explaining you don't have a smart phone and we'll get you sorted.
    Nice, I emailed as well but haven't heard anything yet.  I wonder what that means exactly but sounds like there will be ways to get by.  
    I predict it will be a huge headache for them and all of sudden thousands of people will not have a cell phone...
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,861
    edited January 2018
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Will you have to somehow be "online" for it to work?

    If Im going from Sweden I'm having my phone on "flightmode" unless I'm on the Hotel/McD Wi-fi...
    Well there is free wifi at Mariners games, so I'm thinking that they will provide it for this, since it does sound like people will need connectivity to enter. Worse comes to worse, you'll just need to pay for a roaming package.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,861
    PJNB said:
    iOnlyownMymind said:
    openingbandforthesun said:
    Here's the response I received.  

    No problem. If you end up getting tickets through the pre-sale just shoot us an email explaining you don't have a smart phone and we'll get you sorted.
    Nice, I emailed as well but haven't heard anything yet.  I wonder what that means exactly but sounds like there will be ways to get by.  
    I predict it will be a huge headache for them and all of sudden thousands of people will not have a cell phone...
    Maybe. There are a lot of people who want a hardcopy ticket, and maybe this is the way to get one, lol.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • tbomike
    tbomike Posts: 4
    Count me as another who does not have a smart phone and while I recognize I may eventually be forced to I am not going to be pushed into it for concert tickets. 
  • lastexit78
    lastexit78 Posts: 618

    What's the reasoning for the no hard ticket stance? Environmental? You force say even a handful of fans to buy phones and right there you have harmed the environment way more 50,000 pieces of paper being printed. The amount of fossil fuels and other damaging environmental ingredients like the precious metals that go into making a phone surpass anything that printing out some tickets would. Not to mention we don't even know what the effects of the radiation are and probably won't for a generation.

    Hey I own one, and sorry for the rant but it's just obnoxious that the expectation is we all need one. There are a lot of times I wish I didn't have one and I'm honestly envious of those who live happily without them.

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  • hihobibo
    hihobibo Tampa, FL Posts: 1,140
    I have season tickets for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. This season they instituted the mobile ticket only policy. Anyone I transferred tickets to who did not have a smartphone were able to contact the box office and pick up hard tickets at will call day of the game. I assume a similar option would be available for these shows.

    The reason against the hard tickets and mobile only were explained to me as 1) It lets them track if you are using the tickets yourself or possibly reselling them and 2) it cuts down on the copies of the print at home tickets people were getting from StubHub, where someone would make multiple ticket copies and rip people off.
  • iOnlyownMymind
    iOnlyownMymind Posts: 2,965
    lastexit78 said:

    What's the reasoning for the no hard ticket stance? Environmental? You force say even a handful of fans to buy phones and right there you have harmed the environment way more 50,000 pieces of paper being printed. The amount of fossil fuels and other damaging environmental ingredients like the precious metals that go into making a phone surpass anything that printing out some tickets would. Not to mention we don't even know what the effects of the radiation are and probably won't for a generation.

    Hey I own one, and sorry for the rant but it's just obnoxious that the expectation is we all need one. There are a lot of times I wish I didn't have one and I'm honestly envious of those who live happily without them.

    A good post right there.  I won't get into my own personal rant about them, but  it is along the lines you mentioned, plus the cost of the actual phone that is designed to crap out or go obsolete within a couple years and end up in a landfill is absurd.  
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,861
    lastexit78 said:

    What's the reasoning for the no hard ticket stance? Environmental? You force say even a handful of fans to buy phones and right there you have harmed the environment way more 50,000 pieces of paper being printed. The amount of fossil fuels and other damaging environmental ingredients like the precious metals that go into making a phone surpass anything that printing out some tickets would. Not to mention we don't even know what the effects of the radiation are and probably won't for a generation.

    Hey I own one, and sorry for the rant but it's just obnoxious that the expectation is we all need one. There are a lot of times I wish I didn't have one and I'm honestly envious of those who live happily without them.

    It's to stop scalpers, not for the environment.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,174
    PJNB said:
    iOnlyownMymind said:
    openingbandforthesun said:
    Here's the response I received.  

    No problem. If you end up getting tickets through the pre-sale just shoot us an email explaining you don't have a smart phone and we'll get you sorted.
    Nice, I emailed as well but haven't heard anything yet.  I wonder what that means exactly but sounds like there will be ways to get by.  
    I predict it will be a huge headache for them and all of sudden thousands of people will not have a cell phone...
    Just get a smart phone you cheap ass!  ;)
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJNB said:
    iOnlyownMymind said:
    openingbandforthesun said:
    Here's the response I received.  

    No problem. If you end up getting tickets through the pre-sale just shoot us an email explaining you don't have a smart phone and we'll get you sorted.
    Nice, I emailed as well but haven't heard anything yet.  I wonder what that means exactly but sounds like there will be ways to get by.  
    I predict it will be a huge headache for them and all of sudden thousands of people will not have a cell phone...
    Just get a smart phone you cheap ass!  ;)
    Hey I have to fund all these expensive Pearl Jam trips somehow. :blush:
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,174
    PJNB said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJNB said:
    iOnlyownMymind said:
    openingbandforthesun said:
    Here's the response I received.  

    No problem. If you end up getting tickets through the pre-sale just shoot us an email explaining you don't have a smart phone and we'll get you sorted.
    Nice, I emailed as well but haven't heard anything yet.  I wonder what that means exactly but sounds like there will be ways to get by.  
    I predict it will be a huge headache for them and all of sudden thousands of people will not have a cell phone...
    Just get a smart phone you cheap ass!  ;)
    Hey I have to fund all these expensive Pearl Jam trips somehow. :blush:
    don't drink any beer during the european tour part and you'll have plenty of money for a smart phone!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,014
    Where does it say you need a smart phone?
  • lastexit78
    lastexit78 Posts: 618
    PJ_Soul said:
    lastexit78 said:

    What's the reasoning for the no hard ticket stance? Environmental? You force say even a handful of fans to buy phones and right there you have harmed the environment way more 50,000 pieces of paper being printed. The amount of fossil fuels and other damaging environmental ingredients like the precious metals that go into making a phone surpass anything that printing out some tickets would. Not to mention we don't even know what the effects of the radiation are and probably won't for a generation.

    Hey I own one, and sorry for the rant but it's just obnoxious that the expectation is we all need one. There are a lot of times I wish I didn't have one and I'm honestly envious of those who live happily without them.

    It's to stop scalpers, not for the environment.


    They had scalpers beat 20 years ago, just require fans to pick up tickets at the venue with a current ID. Wow that's difficult, I'm amazed how little progress we've accomplished in two decades. Just wait until even 2% (1000 fans) can't access the tickets on their phones for whatever reason. You'll see a backup that makes the first Gorge show of 2006 look like nothing.

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  • kasedoug
    kasedoug The Golden State Posts: 3,019
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Will you have to somehow be "online" for it to work?

    If Im going from Sweden I'm having my phone on "flightmode" unless I'm on the Hotel/McD Wi-fi...
    You should also be able to screenshot your ticket so that it’s in your photos, and be able to enter without being online.

    A friend is a baseball season ticket holder and sends me tickets that way when we meet up at games.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,861
    edited January 2018
    lastexit78 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    lastexit78 said:

    What's the reasoning for the no hard ticket stance? Environmental? You force say even a handful of fans to buy phones and right there you have harmed the environment way more 50,000 pieces of paper being printed. The amount of fossil fuels and other damaging environmental ingredients like the precious metals that go into making a phone surpass anything that printing out some tickets would. Not to mention we don't even know what the effects of the radiation are and probably won't for a generation.

    Hey I own one, and sorry for the rant but it's just obnoxious that the expectation is we all need one. There are a lot of times I wish I didn't have one and I'm honestly envious of those who live happily without them.

    It's to stop scalpers, not for the environment.


    They had scalpers beat 20 years ago, just require fans to pick up tickets at the venue with a current ID. Wow that's difficult, I'm amazed how little progress we've accomplished in two decades. Just wait until even 2% (1000 fans) can't access the tickets on their phones for whatever reason. You'll see a backup that makes the first Gorge show of 2006 look like nothing.

    That didn't beat scalpers because people were picking up their 10C tix from will call hours before doors opened and then selling them for a massive profit. Plenty of 10C members are willing to do that. We're not all on the up and up, haha.
    Yeah, the potential technical issues will be interesting. I'm going to go ahead and put the burden of having your phone charged adequately on the heads of fans. That is not a difficult task at all, so anyone who actually shows up with a dead battery has no one to blame but themselves. But tech glitches, cracked screens, and lost phones might cause a bit of an issue. I seriously doubt it will be 2% though. That seems really really high. I'm just going to go ahead and assume they'll be prepared to take care of the small number of people who experience some kind of issue like this. It wouldn't be hard to do. Just send them to will call to figure it out.
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  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 16,047
    kasedoug said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Will you have to somehow be "online" for it to work?

    If Im going from Sweden I'm having my phone on "flightmode" unless I'm on the Hotel/McD Wi-fi...
    You should also be able to screenshot your ticket so that it’s in your photos, and be able to enter without being online.

    A friend is a baseball season ticket holder and sends me tickets that way when we meet up at games.
    I done the screenshot thing with stubhub tickets but I think some ticket apps won’t allow you to make a screenshot. 
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  • AmishGuy91
    AmishGuy91 Posts: 835
    on2legs said:
    kasedoug said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Will you have to somehow be "online" for it to work?

    If Im going from Sweden I'm having my phone on "flightmode" unless I'm on the Hotel/McD Wi-fi...
    You should also be able to screenshot your ticket so that it’s in your photos, and be able to enter without being online.

    A friend is a baseball season ticket holder and sends me tickets that way when we meet up at games.
    I done the screenshot thing with stubhub tickets but I think some ticket apps won’t allow you to make a screenshot. 
    Get another phone or camera to take a picture of it. :)
  • dimitrispearljam
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  • PJForceofNature
    PJForceofNature Posts: 3,087
    iOnlyownMymind said:
    you can't get in the door with 10 club tickets? Am I reading that right?  I may be the only one out there, but I don't have a smart phone.  Also, no physical ticket is just lame!! I collect those!
    I don't have a smart phone either, but it sounds like if I wanted to go and won tix through the fan club, they would sort it. And I also enjoy collecting physical tickets.
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