Taking a knee now in Europe

lastexitlondon

I've just seen that a german team in the top division all knelt before the game in a show of togetherness and awareness. Just thought it was pretty cool

pjhawks

shouldn't you have posted this in the idiot thread?

lastexitlondon

Whenever i post anywhere people say errr do you think you should put this in another thread. So thought fuck it put it in its own.thanks for you wise input. Tip of the cap sir

my2hands

pjhawks said:

shouldn't you have posted this in the idiot thread?

Why would it go there?

vaggar99

this could be the start of something beautiful

F Me In The Brain

Did it gave anything to do with the original message it was it anti govt in some way?

I wondered if other sports might start to do this to try and make their own statements.

rgambs

F Me In The Brain said:

Did it gave anything to do with the original message it was it anti govt in some way?

I wondered if other sports might start to do this to try and make their own statements.

Their statement was that they were kneeling in solidarity against racial injustice.

lastexitlondon

I think its great to see and the prick that thought this belongs elsewhere IS the problem. Ignorant dotard hahah

lastexitlondon

I will find the news link.
Here.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/hertha-berlin-take-a-knee-protests-nfl-donald-trump-bundesliga-schalke-a8000706.html?amp

lastexitlondon

For a better Berlin and world in general.

Bentleyspop

pjhawks said:

shouldn't you have posted this in the idiot thread?

This thread no
Your post yes

brianlux

I think it's great that people in other countries are speaking out (or kneeling down) against racism.  I'm surprised some have a problem witht his thread.  Sorry to hear that. 

pjhawks

i'd like all you guys to go into work tomorrow and in the middle of a meeting take a knee. let's see how that goes over in your work place.  Protests don't belong in the work place.

vaggar99

pjhawks said:

i'd like all you guys to go into work tomorrow and in the middle of a meeting take a knee. let's see how that goes over in your work place.  Protests don't belong in the work place.

i can't remember having to stand for the national anthem in my office.  but, my memory isn't so good anymore.  

pjhawks

vaggar99 said:

pjhawks said:

i'd like all you guys to go into work tomorrow and in the middle of a meeting take a knee. let's see how that goes over in your work place.  Protests don't belong in the work place.

i can't remember having to stand for the national anthem in my office.  but, my memory isn't so good anymore.  

no but the bosses makes the rules. that's one of the rules of their office. 

rgambs

pjhawks said:

vaggar99 said:

pjhawks said:

i'd like all you guys to go into work tomorrow and in the middle of a meeting take a knee. let's see how that goes over in your work place.  Protests don't belong in the work place.

i can't remember having to stand for the national anthem in my office.  but, my memory isn't so good anymore.  

no but the bosses makes the rules. that's one of the rules of their office. 

There's no rule against kneeling during the anthem.

oftenreading

pjhawks said:

i'd like all you guys to go into work tomorrow and in the middle of a meeting take a knee. let's see how that goes over in your work place.  Protests don't belong in the work place.

If I explained why I was doing it, my workplace would be pretty supportive. In fact, probably lots of people would join me, because I generally work with good people who are against institutional racism. 

Weird comparison, though. 

lastexitlondon

^^^^ well said and just to clarify there was no anthem involved in Germany it was just a show of togetherness which is very welcome anywhere and everywhere in my eyes. It says a lot about some people that they have a problem with it.  Here everyone wears a poppy in memory of all the fallen soldiers and innocent victims of war. And believe it or not  at work . In sport. Everywhere. So thats being an idiot??? Please clarify how ?

lastexitlondon

Its like saying hide your true beliefs and who you are and what you stand for because you have a job and to to work.

RYME

No no no no no, Does anyone remember history?
It was the Brits initially who brought Africans to North America on those hideous slave ships in the first place.  Not American idealism. So kneeling during America's anthem in England and then standing for Britain's Anthem is sheer ignorance.  Columbus was trying to escape oppression but oppression kind of followed him here from back over there.

rgambs

RYME said:

No no no no no, Does anyone remember history?
It was the Brits initially who brought Africans to North America on those hideous slave ships in the first place.  Not American idealism. So kneeling during America's anthem in England and then standing for Britain's Anthem is sheer ignorance.  Columbus was trying to escape oppression but oppression kind of followed him here from back over there.

Wow dude, you accusing them of ignorance??
You ought to stick to the Bible, your historical knowledge is alllllll wrong.
First of all, it was a German team that kneeled.
Second, it was the Portuguese who started the African slave trade and the Dutch who first brought African slaves to the Americas.
Third, it was Columbus who recommended bringing African slaves as the local populations weren't working out as efficient slaves due to the decimation of the local population by disease and torturous mistreatment under Columbus's supervision.
Fourth, Columbus brought an African personal slave with him, and reveled in the easy enslavement of the locals, so to say he was fleeing oppression is just flat wrong, and a dangerously whitewashed perspective.