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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,671
    Meltdown99 said:
    With the fires and the need to continue urban sprawl to accommodate the over population California may someday have no forest left ... now that will be depressing.  I live in Southern Ontario ... Not a lot of forest here thanks to farming and greenhouses...pretty boring where I live.
    There's some very strange insanity going on in this state.  Just down in the hill from us in Folsom, 10,000 new homes are being built at the base of the Sierra Foothills. an area that is often quite dry in a state that is prone to drought.  Everybody wants to move here but the fact is, the place has already been loved to death.  Even John Steinbeck, as far back as about 60 years ago, left his home state of California because he couldn't stand the ruin that was happening here.  Robinson Jeffers rued the influx of people into the greater Monterey area where he live... clear back in the 1930's!  It's a hard thing to watch. 
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Massive Ontario forest fire sparked by wind farm construction during extreme fire ban, workers

    allegehttps://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ontario-forest-fire-wind-farm-construction-1.4758864

    Been a dry summer in Ontario.  Lots of wildfires.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,671
    Meltdown99 said:
    Massive Ontario forest fire sparked by wind farm construction during extreme fire ban, workers

    allegehttps://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ontario-forest-fire-wind-farm-construction-1.4758864

    Been a dry summer in Ontario.  Lots of wildfires.
    Bummer, sorry to hear that!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    We had a hillside go up a few weeks back. 

    Some welder was welding outside on grasslands without a water line. He put a sheet of plywood up to stop sparks. Of course, this was moronic and the hillside went up.

    There is a tree where eagles nested at the edge of the approaching fire. They had young eagles that weren't strong enough to fly. Our local fire crew worked the area and the tree to save the nest. They were successful.

    My father's place was directly across the river and we watched the entire fiasco. A couple of things to this based on my observations:

    1. A wildfire moves unbelievably fast. Within two hours the entire mountainside was in flames. 

    Firefighters cannot outrun a wildfire. I used to think they could.

    2. Airplane and helicopter pilots fighting the fires were exceptionally skilled.

    3. The community was very concerned for the eagle's nest. This might sound silly, but unless the fire got out of control- it was on native land with very few structures at risk- this was a feel good story.

    It was particularly 'feel good' for my father who is a bond with the eagles. He feeds them the suckers he catches when fishing for trout. No shit... they sit on the trees on our side of the river and squawk at him to feed them.

    Pictures to follow.
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881

    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Those pics were taken with this phone from my dad's dock house.

    In the last picture, the nest sits atop of one other dead trees directly above the tree grove.

    I'll send a twitter link to a great photo of the tree and nest mid fire.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    In summary... gawddamm stoopid people always gotta f**k things up for everything (people, plants, animals, habitat).
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,671
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    In summary... gawddamm stoopid people always gotta f**k things up for everything (people, plants, animals, habitat).
    People sure can be DUMB!  

    How excellent that the people in the area and the fire department went to great ends to save the eaglets!  Wonderful! 
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,671
    We have yet another year with big fire happening outside Yosemite.  Seems to happen every year now.  The Ferguson fire west of the park is at 41,576 acres with 26% containment.  Were in a heat wave with temps in the low 100's (38 to 40 Celsius) which isn't helping matters. 


    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    brianlux said:
    We have yet another year with big fire happening outside Yosemite.  Seems to happen every year now.  The Ferguson fire west of the park is at 41,576 acres with 26% containment.  Were in a heat wave with temps in the low 100's (38 to 40 Celsius) which isn't helping matters. 


    Honestly Brian...

    It's kinda sad. California was phenomenal at one point- one of the premier places to live anywhere in the world for a number of reasons.

    As you have stated, it simply cannot sustain the pressure on it that people have placed upon it.

    It'll never be better. Think about that.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    brianlux said:
    We have yet another year with big fire happening outside Yosemite.  Seems to happen every year now.  The Ferguson fire west of the park is at 41,576 acres with 26% containment.  Were in a heat wave with temps in the low 100's (38 to 40 Celsius) which isn't helping matters. 


    Honestly Brian...

    It's kinda sad. California was phenomenal at one point- one of the premier places to live anywhere in the world for a number of reasons.

    As you have stated, it simply cannot sustain the pressure on it that people have placed upon it.

    It'll never be better. Think about that.
    I agree with that.  I've been to California a few times.  Its not so glamorous anymore.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,671
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    brianlux said:
    We have yet another year with big fire happening outside Yosemite.  Seems to happen every year now.  The Ferguson fire west of the park is at 41,576 acres with 26% containment.  Were in a heat wave with temps in the low 100's (38 to 40 Celsius) which isn't helping matters. 


    Honestly Brian...

    It's kinda sad. California was phenomenal at one point- one of the premier places to live anywhere in the world for a number of reasons.

    As you have stated, it simply cannot sustain the pressure on it that people have placed upon it.

    It'll never be better. Think about that.
    Sadly, Thirty, I think about it often.  That awareness is  especially pronounced having family on my mothers side in California that goes back to the late 1800's and having been born in California myself in 1951 and having lived most of my life here.  The changes that have occurred here in all those years are phenomenal and unsettling.   This is truly paradise lost. 

    And the weird thing is- this state still has this mystique about it that attracts people and they keep thinking this is the place to live.  Honestly, it's not any more.   Most of the state is crowed, expensive, polluted, heavily trafficked, and competition for good neighborhood housing is stiff and only for the wealthy.

    I think governor Brown needs to appoint me as the Official State Unwelcomer, haha!


    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    brianlux said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    brianlux said:
    We have yet another year with big fire happening outside Yosemite.  Seems to happen every year now.  The Ferguson fire west of the park is at 41,576 acres with 26% containment.  Were in a heat wave with temps in the low 100's (38 to 40 Celsius) which isn't helping matters. 


    Honestly Brian...

    It's kinda sad. California was phenomenal at one point- one of the premier places to live anywhere in the world for a number of reasons.

    As you have stated, it simply cannot sustain the pressure on it that people have placed upon it.

    It'll never be better. Think about that.
    Sadly, Thirty, I think about it often.  That awareness is  especially pronounced having family on my mothers side in California that goes back to the late 1800's and having been born in California myself in 1951 and having lived most of my life here.  The changes that have occurred here in all those years are phenomenal and unsettling.   This is truly paradise lost. 

    And the weird thing is- this state still has this mystique about it that attracts people and they keep thinking this is the place to live.  Honestly, it's not any more.   Most of the state is crowed, expensive, polluted, heavily trafficked, and competition for good neighborhood housing is stiff and only for the wealthy.

    I think governor Brown needs to appoint me as the Official State Unwelcomer, haha!


    Is that kind of like "get off my lawn", in your case "get out of my state" ... 
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,671
    Meltdown99 said:
    brianlux said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    brianlux said:
    We have yet another year with big fire happening outside Yosemite.  Seems to happen every year now.  The Ferguson fire west of the park is at 41,576 acres with 26% containment.  Were in a heat wave with temps in the low 100's (38 to 40 Celsius) which isn't helping matters. 


    Honestly Brian...

    It's kinda sad. California was phenomenal at one point- one of the premier places to live anywhere in the world for a number of reasons.

    As you have stated, it simply cannot sustain the pressure on it that people have placed upon it.

    It'll never be better. Think about that.
    Sadly, Thirty, I think about it often.  That awareness is  especially pronounced having family on my mothers side in California that goes back to the late 1800's and having been born in California myself in 1951 and having lived most of my life here.  The changes that have occurred here in all those years are phenomenal and unsettling.   This is truly paradise lost. 

    And the weird thing is- this state still has this mystique about it that attracts people and they keep thinking this is the place to live.  Honestly, it's not any more.   Most of the state is crowed, expensive, polluted, heavily trafficked, and competition for good neighborhood housing is stiff and only for the wealthy.

    I think governor Brown needs to appoint me as the Official State Unwelcomer, haha!


    Is that kind of like "get off my lawn", in your case "get out of my state" ... 
    LOL, yeah, that's it!

    Or better yet, "Welcome!  Enjoy you visit.  Please leave lots of tourist dollars!" 

    [Days later...]

    "OK, visits over.  Now get the hell out of my state!"  :lol:

    Of course, I would  not say that.  But I do find it perplexing that so many people keep moving here.  If it weren't my home state where my family and work and a lot of personal history are, it would be the kind of place I would like to visit, but not move to.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,760
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    brianlux said:
    We have yet another year with big fire happening outside Yosemite.  Seems to happen every year now.  The Ferguson fire west of the park is at 41,576 acres with 26% containment.  Were in a heat wave with temps in the low 100's (38 to 40 Celsius) which isn't helping matters. 


    Honestly Brian...

    It's kinda sad. California was phenomenal at one point- one of the premier places to live anywhere in the world for a number of reasons.

    As you have stated, it simply cannot sustain the pressure on it that people have placed upon it.

    It'll never be better. Think about that.
    I think that there will eventually be a mass migration out of at least Southern California, as it becomes more and more unlivable because of heat, drought, and fires. Once that happens, and everyone goes north, perhaps California will be able to recover over time and become more of a wilderness again. This isn't good news for the north of course!
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    brianlux said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    brianlux said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    brianlux said:
    We have yet another year with big fire happening outside Yosemite.  Seems to happen every year now.  The Ferguson fire west of the park is at 41,576 acres with 26% containment.  Were in a heat wave with temps in the low 100's (38 to 40 Celsius) which isn't helping matters. 


    Honestly Brian...

    It's kinda sad. California was phenomenal at one point- one of the premier places to live anywhere in the world for a number of reasons.

    As you have stated, it simply cannot sustain the pressure on it that people have placed upon it.

    It'll never be better. Think about that.
    Sadly, Thirty, I think about it often.  That awareness is  especially pronounced having family on my mothers side in California that goes back to the late 1800's and having been born in California myself in 1951 and having lived most of my life here.  The changes that have occurred here in all those years are phenomenal and unsettling.   This is truly paradise lost. 

    And the weird thing is- this state still has this mystique about it that attracts people and they keep thinking this is the place to live.  Honestly, it's not any more.   Most of the state is crowed, expensive, polluted, heavily trafficked, and competition for good neighborhood housing is stiff and only for the wealthy.

    I think governor Brown needs to appoint me as the Official State Unwelcomer, haha!


    Is that kind of like "get off my lawn", in your case "get out of my state" ... 
    LOL, yeah, that's it!

    Or better yet, "Welcome!  Enjoy you visit.  Please leave lots of tourist dollars!" 

    [Days later...]

    "OK, visits over.  Now get the hell out of my state!"  :lol:

    Of course, I would  not say that.  But I do find it perplexing that so many people keep moving here.  If it weren't my home state where my family and work and a lot of personal history are, it would be the kind of place I would like to visit, but not move to.
    The only thing that I have ever wanted to set foot in California for us to visit the Redwoods National Forest.  The overcrowding and pop culture of the cities have never appealed to me.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,760
    edited July 2018
    I wouldn't mind visiting San Francisco once - such a historical place that's not broiling hot. I wouldn't be caught dead in Southern California though.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,671
    PJ_Soul said:
    I wouldn't mind visiting San Francisco once - such a historical place that's not broiling hot. I wouldn't be caught dead in Southern California though.
    Coming from the Bay Area, I'm biased but I try not to put down southern California to much.  That area has produced so much great film and music- for that alone it deserves recognition.  But I don't have any desire to visit So Cal any time soon.

    If you haven't been to San Francisco, I would highly recommend doing so.  It has gone through changes since the years I lived in or near the city, but it still has so much going for it.  If you ever do plan a visit, let me know.   We make day trips down there from time to time.  You might like seeing some of the popular tourists spots but there are also lesser known parts of the city that are very much worth seeing.  I'm also more of a fan of S.F. off season and on week days.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    brianlux said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    brianlux said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    brianlux said:
    We have yet another year with big fire happening outside Yosemite.  Seems to happen every year now.  The Ferguson fire west of the park is at 41,576 acres with 26% containment.  Were in a heat wave with temps in the low 100's (38 to 40 Celsius) which isn't helping matters. 


    Honestly Brian...

    It's kinda sad. California was phenomenal at one point- one of the premier places to live anywhere in the world for a number of reasons.

    As you have stated, it simply cannot sustain the pressure on it that people have placed upon it.

    It'll never be better. Think about that.
    Sadly, Thirty, I think about it often.  That awareness is  especially pronounced having family on my mothers side in California that goes back to the late 1800's and having been born in California myself in 1951 and having lived most of my life here.  The changes that have occurred here in all those years are phenomenal and unsettling.   This is truly paradise lost. 

    And the weird thing is- this state still has this mystique about it that attracts people and they keep thinking this is the place to live.  Honestly, it's not any more.   Most of the state is crowed, expensive, polluted, heavily trafficked, and competition for good neighborhood housing is stiff and only for the wealthy.

    I think governor Brown needs to appoint me as the Official State Unwelcomer, haha!


    Is that kind of like "get off my lawn", in your case "get out of my state" ... 
    LOL, yeah, that's it!

    Or better yet, "Welcome!  Enjoy you visit.  Please leave lots of tourist dollars!" 

    [Days later...]

    "OK, visits over.  Now get the hell out of my state!"  :lol:

    Of course, I would  not say that.  But I do find it perplexing that so many people keep moving here.  If it weren't my home state where my family and work and a lot of personal history are, it would be the kind of place I would like to visit, but not move to.
    Secretary of Stay out my State unless you are spending lots of tourist dollars in a very short time.  Then get out, thanks for your money ... see ya.  

    You should email the governor about a job...lol
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