Started reading it this morning....she very clearly accepts all blame for her loss in the first few pages of the book.
The narrative that she blames others is over.
They're going to keep saying that anyway though. People have their own truth now and facts don't matter to them. I'm enjoying the read. What she was thinking during the inauguration was interesting. I'll have to read more later.
Don't care to read the book, but I heard her blame Russia and Comey in two different interviews about the book. I didn't hear her say she could have worked on trust or ran a better campaign. Which I think is the real reason. Agree or not, America has a trust issue with her.
Thank god we dodged that bullet and elected someone with a sterling reputation for reliability!!
Started reading it this morning....she very clearly accepts all blame for her loss in the first few pages of the book.
The narrative that she blames others is over.
They're going to keep saying that anyway though. People have their own truth now and facts don't matter to them. I'm enjoying the read. What she was thinking during the inauguration was interesting. I'll have to read more later.
Don't care to read the book, but I heard her blame Russia and Comey in two different interviews about the book. I didn't hear her say she could have worked on trust or ran a better campaign. Which I think is the real reason. Agree or not, America has a trust issue with her.
Disagree....Comey was CLEARLY an influence on the election. Russia is to be determined but looks like there was major interference.
But yes, she blames herself. She stated that she should have come out hard against Comey instead of ignoring it. She also stated that she should have been much more vocal about Russia.
Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018) The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy 2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE) 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston 2020: Oakland, Oakland:2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
Started reading it this morning....she very clearly accepts all blame for her loss in the first few pages of the book.
The narrative that she blames others is over.
They're going to keep saying that anyway though. People have their own truth now and facts don't matter to them. I'm enjoying the read. What she was thinking during the inauguration was interesting. I'll have to read more later.
Don't care to read the book, but I heard her blame Russia and Comey in two different interviews about the book. I didn't hear her say she could have worked on trust or ran a better campaign. Which I think is the real reason. Agree or not, America has a trust issue with her.
Disagree....Comey was CLEARLY an influence on the election. Russia is to be determined but looks like there was major interference.
Absolutely. She would have won that election (narrowly) if it hadn't been for Comey. I bet he regrets that shit now!
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
see this here, Laura Loomer, Hilliary knows who she is and is nothing but cordial beyond polite yet Loomer still decides to harass Hillary with alt-stupid questions. get a life. totally uncalled for, Hillary is or will be one of the top political figures in history, took her lumps year after year after year but idiots still feel it necessary to harassment her for self promotion. sick I hope she was dragged out by her nostrils.
see this here, Laura Loomer, Hilliary knows who she is and is nothing but cordial beyond polite yet Loomer still decides to harass Hillary with alt-stupid questions. get a life. totally uncalled for, Hillary is or will be one of the top political figures in history, took her lumps year after year after year but idiots still feel it necessary to harassment her for self promotion. sick I hope she was dragged out by her nostrils.
To those that say Hilliary has and is taking responsibility for her loss to an incompetent celebrity game show host, I ask these questions, has she taken responsibility for: 1 being the worse candidate in history 2 mocking the left (Bernie Bros), the right (deplorables) repeatedly and minorities (super predators) 3 evading the press and uncomfortable questions for 9 straight months 4 not campaigning in all states 5 cheating the primaries 6 cheating the debates 7 recruiting endorsements from neocons 8 caring more about republican votes than democrats 9 accepting record breaking dirty money from anyone and everyone 10 illegally coordinating with her super-pac 11 the disastrous wars she gleefully chuckles about
If Hilliary truly cared about "what happened" maybe she should have done a tour of the states she lost and spoke to the democratic and indy voters that stayed home. In not at least talk to and get feedback from the Hilliary "cultists", listen to what they have to say before writing a book with-in her comfy bubble months after getting electorally landslid-ed by a buffoon. Maybe she would learn that she took the voters that matter for granted, maybe she would learn that voters aren't as dumb as she thought, maybe they were well informed of her political track record, her campaign devoid of policy, her warmongering, maybe she would have learned democratic voters are sick of being lied to and played for fools, maybe. Hilliary lost because voters chose to stay home, they made the conscience decision that they would rather not vote for either horrible candidate and risk a Trump presidency. They chose to not vote for Hilliary just because Trump. A monkey that was dropped on its baby monkey head can figure it out.
To those that say Hilliary has and is taking responsibility for her loss to an incompetent celebrity game show host, I ask these questions, has she taken responsibility for: 1 being the worse candidate in history 2 mocking the left (Bernie Bros), the right (deplorables) repeatedly and minorities (super predators) 3 evading the press and uncomfortable questions for 9 straight months 4 not campaigning in all states 5 cheating the primaries 6 cheating the debates 7 recruiting endorsements from neocons 8 caring more about republican votes than democrats 9 accepting record breaking dirty money from anyone and everyone 10 illegally coordinating with her super-pac 11 the disastrous wars she gleefully chuckles about
If Hilliary truly cared about "what happened" maybe she should have done a tour of the states she lost and spoke to the democratic and indy voters that stayed home. In not at least talk to and get feedback from the Hilliary "cultists", listen to what they have to say before writing a book with-in her comfy bubble months after getting electorally landslid-ed by a buffoon. Maybe she would learn that she took the voters that matter for granted, maybe she would learn that voters aren't as dumb as she thought, maybe they were well informed of her political track record, her campaign devoid of policy, her warmongering, maybe she would have learned democratic voters are sick of being lied to and played for fools, maybe. Hilliary lost because voters chose to stay home, they made the conscience decision that they would rather not vote for either horrible candidate and risk a Trump presidency. They chose to not vote for Hilliary just because Trump. A monkey that was dropped on its baby monkey head can figure it out.
I guess you'll have to read her book to find out.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
To those that say Hilliary has and is taking responsibility for her loss to an incompetent celebrity game show host, I ask these questions, has she taken responsibility for: 1 being the worse candidate in history 2 mocking the left (Bernie Bros), the right (deplorables) repeatedly and minorities (super predators) 3 evading the press and uncomfortable questions for 9 straight months 4 not campaigning in all states 5 cheating the primaries 6 cheating the debates 7 recruiting endorsements from neocons 8 caring more about republican votes than democrats 9 accepting record breaking dirty money from anyone and everyone 10 illegally coordinating with her super-pac 11 the disastrous wars she gleefully chuckles about
If Hilliary truly cared about "what happened" maybe she should have done a tour of the states she lost and spoke to the democratic and indy voters that stayed home. In not at least talk to and get feedback from the Hilliary "cultists", listen to what they have to say before writing a book with-in her comfy bubble months after getting electorally landslid-ed by a buffoon. Maybe she would learn that she took the voters that matter for granted, maybe she would learn that voters aren't as dumb as she thought, maybe they were well informed of her political track record, her campaign devoid of policy, her warmongering, maybe she would have learned democratic voters are sick of being lied to and played for fools, maybe. Hilliary lost because voters chose to stay home, they made the conscience decision that they would rather not vote for either horrible candidate and risk a Trump presidency. They chose to not vote for Hilliary just because Trump. A monkey that was dropped on its baby monkey head can figure it out.
you need to learn the difference between objective and subjective
To those that say Hilliary has and is taking responsibility for her loss to an incompetent celebrity game show host, I ask these questions, has she taken responsibility for: 1 being the worse candidate in history 2 mocking the left (Bernie Bros), the right (deplorables) repeatedly and minorities (super predators) 3 evading the press and uncomfortable questions for 9 straight months 4 not campaigning in all states 5 cheating the primaries 6 cheating the debates 7 recruiting endorsements from neocons 8 caring more about republican votes than democrats 9 accepting record breaking dirty money from anyone and everyone 10 illegally coordinating with her super-pac 11 the disastrous wars she gleefully chuckles about
If Hilliary truly cared about "what happened" maybe she should have done a tour of the states she lost and spoke to the democratic and indy voters that stayed home. In not at least talk to and get feedback from the Hilliary "cultists", listen to what they have to say before writing a book with-in her comfy bubble months after getting electorally landslid-ed by a buffoon. Maybe she would learn that she took the voters that matter for granted, maybe she would learn that voters aren't as dumb as she thought, maybe they were well informed of her political track record, her campaign devoid of policy, her warmongering, maybe she would have learned democratic voters are sick of being lied to and played for fools, maybe. Hilliary lost because voters chose to stay home, they made the conscience decision that they would rather not vote for either horrible candidate and risk a Trump presidency. They chose to not vote for Hilliary just because Trump. A monkey that was dropped on its baby monkey head can figure it out.
I guess you'll have to read her book to find out.
I'm opting for the book on tape, Hilliary voice version.
0
brianlux
Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,655
I still say, no matter what anyone thinks of Hillary Clinton, the fact that she lost to a clown says a lot about out both the poor showing of her candidacy and even more so, the wretched state of the American voting public. How could so many people vote so foolishly? Why are there so many idiots in this country? It boggles my mind.
"Don't give in to the lies. Don't give in to the fear. Hold on to the truth. And to hope."
I still say, no matter what anyone thinks of Hillary Clinton, the fact that she lost to a clown says a lot about out both the poor showing of her candidacy and even more so, the wretched state of the American voting public. How could so many people vote so foolishly? Why are there so many idiots in this country? It boggles my mind.
I really believe the lack of enforcement of immigration law over the last few decades is a key factor in why Trump won. The illegals aren't the reason that jobs are gone (technology followed by globalization is), but they are a scapegoat to a large number of Trump supporters because there are so many. They have to blame something and our political leaders and their ineptitude feed this way of thinking. Trump played on this sentiment and it got him in the White House. I don't think a large portion of Trump's voters are racist, but they just need someone to blame for their economic woes. The Dems think that all but ignoring borders will help Hispanic immigrants, but I think it feeds unrest in the country that wouldn't be there if we had 12 million legalimmigrants in this country instead of illegal.
The right focuses on illegal immigrants because it fits two of their talking points - tough on crime and immigration. But the truth is, they're pretty much opposed to legal immigration, too, especially of the non-white variety. And generally opposed to refugee claimants, despite the fact that they are coming from horrific conditions through a legal mechanism.
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
The right focuses on illegal immigrants because it fits two of their talking points - tough on crime and immigration. But the truth is, they're pretty much opposed to legal immigration, too, especially of the non-white variety. And generally opposed to refugee claimants, despite the fact that they are coming from horrific conditions through a legal mechanism.
I don't think the majority are opposed to legal immigration. If someone is opposed I think it would be for economic reasons. Now refugees from the Middle East are different. That opposition is based on religious and cultural differences with a perceived fear of eventual terrorism risk.
The right focuses on illegal immigrants because it fits two of their talking points - tough on crime and immigration. But the truth is, they're pretty much opposed to legal immigration, too, especially of the non-white variety. And generally opposed to refugee claimants, despite the fact that they are coming from horrific conditions through a legal mechanism.
I don't think the majority are opposed to legal immigration. If someone is opposed I think it would be for economic reasons. Now refugees from the Middle East are different. That opposition is based on religious and cultural differences with a perceived fear of eventual terrorism risk.
"Religious and cultural differences" applies to the majority of people who might seek to immigrate, and is essentially saying "we only want white Christians" in a somewhat less overt way.
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
Final paragraph What Happened is a sordid book, petulant and spiteful. It made
me feel queasy and dirty while reading it, like the whole 25-year-long
experience of Clintonism itself. By the end, I got the sense that its
sleazy torrent of invective and blame-mongering was more an attempt to
console the frail psyche of the author rather than to repair her
shattered image to any readership the book might find. In the years to
come, What Happened will prove much more valuable as documentary evidence for psycho-historians than political scientists.
Final paragraph What Happened is a sordid book, petulant and spiteful. It made
me feel queasy and dirty while reading it, like the whole 25-year-long
experience of Clintonism itself. By the end, I got the sense that its
sleazy torrent of invective and blame-mongering was more an attempt to
console the frail psyche of the author rather than to repair her
shattered image to any readership the book might find. In the years to
come, What Happened will prove much more valuable as documentary evidence for psycho-historians than political scientists.
Final paragraph What Happened is a sordid book, petulant and spiteful. It made
me feel queasy and dirty while reading it, like the whole 25-year-long
experience of Clintonism itself. By the end, I got the sense that its
sleazy torrent of invective and blame-mongering was more an attempt to
console the frail psyche of the author rather than to repair her
shattered image to any readership the book might find. In the years to
come, What Happened will prove much more valuable as documentary evidence for psycho-historians than political scientists.
Are you incapable of forming your own opinion? Seems so.
Final paragraph What Happened is a sordid book, petulant and spiteful. It made
me feel queasy and dirty while reading it, like the whole 25-year-long
experience of Clintonism itself. By the end, I got the sense that its
sleazy torrent of invective and blame-mongering was more an attempt to
console the frail psyche of the author rather than to repair her
shattered image to any readership the book might find. In the years to
come, What Happened will prove much more valuable as documentary evidence for psycho-historians than political scientists.
It doesn't sound like he read it at all. I can't imagine what kind of hate is in his heart and I don't want to think about it any longer
Final paragraph What Happened is a sordid book, petulant and spiteful. It made
me feel queasy and dirty while reading it, like the whole 25-year-long
experience of Clintonism itself. By the end, I got the sense that its
sleazy torrent of invective and blame-mongering was more an attempt to
console the frail psyche of the author rather than to repair her
shattered image to any readership the book might find. In the years to
come, What Happened will prove much more valuable as documentary evidence for psycho-historians than political scientists.
It doesn't sound like he read it at all. I can't imagine what kind of hate is in his heart and I don't want to think about it any longer
He hasn't read it, he's waiting for the book on tape. Remember?
Oh wait - you meant the counterpunch "article" "author".
I still say, no matter what anyone thinks of Hillary Clinton, the fact that she lost to a clown says a lot about out both the poor showing of her candidacy and even more so, the wretched state of the American voting public. How could so many people vote so foolishly? Why are there so many idiots in this country? It boggles my mind.
I really believe the lack of enforcement of immigration law over the last few decades is a key factor in why Trump won. The illegals aren't the reason that jobs are gone (technology followed by globalization is), but they are a scapegoat to a large number of Trump supporters because there are so many. They have to blame something and our political leaders and their ineptitude feed this way of thinking. Trump played on this sentiment and it got him in the White House. I don't think a large portion of Trump's voters are racist, but they just need someone to blame for their economic woes. The Dems think that all but ignoring borders will help Hispanic immigrants, but I think it feeds unrest in the country that wouldn't be there if we had 12 million legalimmigrants in this country instead of illegal.
No doubt immigration had some bearing on the election. Just how much, I'm not sure.
America is conflicted, confused, and often contradictory regarding immigration issues. Many don't want any immigrants and even more don't want illegal immigrants and yet we wouldn't have much of our agriculture without both so we bring them in to pick and hoe and clean our motel rooms.
When it comes to farming, how many white people do we see out in the fields picking? I don't know about in other parts of the country but our here in the west, almost never. My brother runs a small family farming operation. He relies on help from legal Mexican immigrants for plant, hoeing, picking, etc. Without their employment, he would not be able to bring in crops. The only white guys I ever saw in the fields were a few white kids with work permits making a few bucks in the summer and me, in my 40's between teaching jobs trying to help out a little. And that work damn near busted my ass. Damn, that's hard work! White guys almost never want to work like that, at least that's my experience from empirical evidence.
We don't want them here! We need them here to pick and clean! Send them away! Sneak them in, especially the illegals to corporate farms, fuck yeah! Build a wall! Sneak 'em over the wall! Keep them all out! Let them all in!
America has its head up its ass when it comes to immigration.
"Don't give in to the lies. Don't give in to the fear. Hold on to the truth. And to hope."
Meanwhile Hillary released 20 years of tax returns, has faced multiple investigations and yet, has never been charged with a crime nor copped a plea or settled to make a charge go away. Wonder if our president can claim the same?
I really wasn't ready to run against a monkey that was dropped on his baby monkey head either
So she wasn't ready to run against the guy she was running against?
must be Russia's fault....or Comey...or Bernie....who else again Hills???? She's literally the worst candidate ever. Lost dem nomination to Obama when it was a "slam dunk". Lost to Obama because of "hope and change" no real issues. Then loses easily the most winnable presidential contest to an freakin idiot. Lost to another candidate that had no specifics and only offered phrases "make America great again". Fool me once (2008) Shane on you, fool me twice? Dammit Hillary admit it you had all the opportunities in the world k be prepared but your ego and general inability to have any smidgen of likeability killed your chances again.
What kind of message does it portray to women that standing by your husbands infidelity is ok? She is so pathetic and weak. The only thing I think of when I hear her name or see her face is Bill Clinton getting oral sex in the oval office from someone other than her. She has no platform to speak to women or girls on any issue of empowerment after not ditching her husband.
I really wasn't ready to run against a monkey that was dropped on his baby monkey head either
So she wasn't ready to run against the guy she was running against?
must be Russia's fault....or Comey...or Bernie....who else again Hills???? She's literally the worst candidate ever. Lost dem nomination to Obama when it was a "slam dunk". Lost to Obama because of "hope and change" no real issues. Then loses easily the most winnable presidential contest to an freakin idiot. Lost to another candidate that had no specifics and only offered phrases "make America great again". Fool me once (2008) Shane on you, fool me twice? Dammit Hillary admit it you had all the opportunities in the world k be prepared but your ego and general inability to have any smidgen of likeability killed your chances again.
the one thing she won't admit, not enough republicans voted for her
Comments
But yes, she blames herself. She stated that she should have come out hard against Comey instead of ignoring it. She also stated that she should have been much more vocal about Russia.
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
Maddow should change the name of her show to "Softball"
The two most important issues facing America according to Loomer
1. harassing Hillary
2. Albedin Weiner divorce
Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.
Brilliantati©
1 being the worse candidate in history
2 mocking the left (Bernie Bros), the right (deplorables) repeatedly and minorities (super predators)
3 evading the press and uncomfortable questions for 9 straight months
4 not campaigning in all states
5 cheating the primaries
6 cheating the debates
7 recruiting endorsements from neocons
8 caring more about republican votes than democrats
9 accepting record breaking dirty money from anyone and everyone
10 illegally coordinating with her super-pac
11 the disastrous wars she gleefully chuckles about
If Hilliary truly cared about "what happened" maybe she should have done a tour of the states she lost and spoke to the democratic and indy voters that stayed home. In not at least talk to and get feedback from the Hilliary "cultists", listen to what they have to say before writing a book with-in her comfy bubble months after getting electorally landslid-ed by a buffoon. Maybe she would learn that she took the voters that matter for granted, maybe she would learn that voters aren't as dumb as she thought, maybe they were well informed of her political track record, her campaign devoid of policy, her warmongering, maybe she would have learned democratic voters are sick of being lied to and played for fools, maybe.
Hilliary lost because voters chose to stay home, they made the conscience decision that they would rather not vote for either horrible candidate and risk a Trump presidency. They chose to not vote for Hilliary just because Trump.
A monkey that was dropped on its baby monkey head can figure it out.
-EV 8/14/93
I really believe the lack of enforcement of immigration law over the last few decades is a key factor in why Trump won. The illegals aren't the reason that jobs are gone (technology followed by globalization is), but they are a scapegoat to a large number of Trump supporters because there are so many. They have to blame something and our political leaders and their ineptitude feed this way of thinking. Trump played on this sentiment and it got him in the White House. I don't think a large portion of Trump's voters are racist, but they just need someone to blame for their economic woes. The Dems think that all but ignoring borders will help Hispanic immigrants, but I think it feeds unrest in the country that wouldn't be there if we had 12 million legal immigrants in this country instead of illegal.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/09/15/hillary-happened/
Final paragraph
What Happened is a sordid book, petulant and spiteful. It made me feel queasy and dirty while reading it, like the whole 25-year-long experience of Clintonism itself. By the end, I got the sense that its sleazy torrent of invective and blame-mongering was more an attempt to console the frail psyche of the author rather than to repair her shattered image to any readership the book might find. In the years to come, What Happened will prove much more valuable as documentary evidence for psycho-historians than political scientists.
Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.
Brilliantati©
Oh wait - you meant the counterpunch "article" "author".
America is conflicted, confused, and often contradictory regarding immigration issues. Many don't want any immigrants and even more don't want illegal immigrants and yet we wouldn't have much of our agriculture without both so we bring them in to pick and hoe and clean our motel rooms.
When it comes to farming, how many white people do we see out in the fields picking? I don't know about in other parts of the country but our here in the west, almost never. My brother runs a small family farming operation. He relies on help from legal Mexican immigrants for plant, hoeing, picking, etc. Without their employment, he would not be able to bring in crops. The only white guys I ever saw in the fields were a few white kids with work permits making a few bucks in the summer and me, in my 40's between teaching jobs trying to help out a little. And that work damn near busted my ass. Damn, that's hard work! White guys almost never want to work like that, at least that's my experience from empirical evidence.
We don't want them here!
We need them here to pick and clean!
Send them away!
Sneak them in, especially the illegals to corporate farms, fuck yeah!
Build a wall!
Sneak 'em over the wall!
Keep them all out!
Let them all in!
America has its head up its ass when it comes to immigration.
Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.
Brilliantati©
Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.
Brilliantati©
I really wasn't ready to run against a monkey that was dropped on his baby monkey head either
must be Russia's fault....or Comey...or Bernie....who else again Hills???? She's literally the worst candidate ever. Lost dem nomination to Obama when it was a "slam dunk". Lost to Obama because of "hope and change" no real issues. Then loses easily the most winnable presidential contest to an freakin idiot. Lost to another candidate that had no specifics and only offered phrases "make America great again". Fool me once (2008) Shane on you, fool me twice? Dammit Hillary admit it you had all the opportunities in the world k be prepared but your ego and general inability to have any smidgen of likeability killed your chances again.