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  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    edited July 2020
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    (Gosh darnit; I still can't post while quoting...or at least while quoting Ledbetterman)

    I'm curious as to what most Republicans think of Bush at this point.  His 18-month post-9/11 honeymoon is long over. Since most conservative/Republican voices I stumble upon are pro-Trump, I feel like anyone that does not kiss Trump's feet are dismissed as RINOs.  That said, I know that the loudest voices in America are those of the hard core Trumpers. So when it feels to me like Republicans now hate, say, Mitt Romney, maybe it's just the loud Trump wing of the party.

    Maybe someone like Bush could move the needle with enough non-MAGA-hat owners that just vote Republican all the time and aren't necessarily cognizant of how dangerous this administration is.
    Interesting point.  I think Trump has been purposeful in his condemnation of the Bush's, particularly early on as he wanted to create a wall around him, with no link to previous administrations.  It's how he can do what he want without damaging the base, as he's already discredited them early on.  I agree that it would show high integrity for Bush to do such a thing, and I wouldn't put it past him.  But I don't know how many votes it moves at this point. 
    Hit post too soon. To piggyback off the other post, From The Hill today:

    Alumni of George W. Bush administration launch pro-Biden super PAC

    Hundreds of former members of the George W. Bush administration have formed a super PAC to support former Vice President Joe Biden, saying they are alarmed by President Trump’s conduct in office.

    The group, dubbed 43 Alumni for Joe Biden, officially launched Wednesday. The group includes former Cabinet officials and other senior administration members who say they think the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee can “restore dignity” to the White House.

    I do think that having traditional, respected conservative Republicans forming this PAC and getting good messaging out to the GOP may indeed move the needle. Not with members of Cult 45, but with the rest of the GOP and those who are undecided and/or identify independent because they are now embarrassed to identify as Republican.



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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    jeffbr said:
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    (Gosh darnit; I still can't post while quoting...or at least while quoting Ledbetterman)

    I'm curious as to what most Republicans think of Bush at this point.  His 18-month post-9/11 honeymoon is long over. Since most conservative/Republican voices I stumble upon are pro-Trump, I feel like anyone that does not kiss Trump's feet are dismissed as RINOs.  That said, I know that the loudest voices in America are those of the hard core Trumpers. So when it feels to me like Republicans now hate, say, Mitt Romney, maybe it's just the loud Trump wing of the party.

    Maybe someone like Bush could move the needle with enough non-MAGA-hat owners that just vote Republican all the time and aren't necessarily cognizant of how dangerous this administration is.
    Interesting point.  I think Trump has been purposeful in his condemnation of the Bush's, particularly early on as he wanted to create a wall around him, with no link to previous administrations.  It's how he can do what he want without damaging the base, as he's already discredited them early on.  I agree that it would show high integrity for Bush to do such a thing, and I wouldn't put it past him.  But I don't know how many votes it moves at this point. 
    From The Hill today:

    Alumni of George W. Bush administration launch pro-Biden super PAC

    Hundreds of former members of the George W. Bush administration have formed a super PAC to support former Vice President Joe Biden, saying they are alarmed by President Trump’s conduct in office.

    The group, dubbed 43 Alumni for Joe Biden, officially launched Wednesday. The group includes former Cabinet officials and other senior administration members who say they think the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee can “restore dignity” to the White House.

    Ouch.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    Pay particular attention to Lindsey Flimsy Flip Flop Faloozy's response. What a pathetic party they've become.

    July 6, 2020 at 7:04 p.m. EDT
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    The silence is deafening.

    President Trump has gone in the past several weeks from racist dog whistles to an all-out Confederate bugle call with a rebel yell — and yet his Republican enablers in Congress continue determinedly to cover their ears.

    He retweets a video in which a man shouts “white power” and later deletes but never disavows it. He talks of the pandemic as “kung flu,” calls for violence against “thugs” in the streets of Minneapolis and labels a sign proclaiming “Black Lives Matter” a “symbol of hate.” He threatens to veto a defense bill if it removes the names of Confederate generals from U.S. military bases.

    In the past few days, he has declared that those marching under “the banner of social justice” are part of a “radical ideology attacking our country” and are “bad, evil people” seeking “to end America” in favor of “far-left fascism.” And he has attacked NASCAR for banning the Confederate flag and said its only black full-time driver should “apologize” for a “hoax” after a noose found in his garage was determined not to have been directed at him.

    Yet from Republican officeholders, nothing.

    “President Trump’s unyielding push to preserve Confederate symbols and the legacy of white domination,” The Post’s Robert Costa and Philip Rucker wrote on Independence Day, “has unnerved Republicans who have long enabled him but now fear losing power and forever associating their party with his racial animus.”

    Unnerved, but inaudible. “On Capitol Hill, some Republicans fret — mostly privately, to avoid his wrath — that Trump’s fixation on racial and other cultural issues leaves their party running against the currents of change,” Costa and Rucker wrote.

    So Trump’s enablers are unnerved by his overt racism — not because it’s despicable on its face but because they fear losing power. And the enablers fret, but in private.

    The silence, often attributed to cowardice, is really complicity. As I’ve noted, racial resentment has become the primary driver and predictor of support for the Republican Party, a trend that has accelerated under Trump. If Republican lawmakers continue to “fret privately” as Trump bases his reelection on clumsy racist demagoguery, they must be held to account for condoning the redefinition of the GOP as the new home of the white power movement. Their silence isn’t just enabling Trump; it’s also enabling white supremacy to hijack a major American political party.

    So let’s hold them to account.

    On Monday, I emailed the campaigns of the 11 Republican senators who face potentially competitive reelections this year: Susan Collins (Maine), Thom Tillis (N.C.), Lindsey Graham (S.C.), Kelly Loeffler (Ga.), David Perdue (Ga.), John Cornyn (Texas), Joni Ernst (Iowa), Mitch McConnell (Ky.), Cory Gardner (Colo.), Martha McSally (Ariz.) and Steve Daines (Mont.). (Disclosure: My wife, a Democratic pollster, has clients in the Colorado and Arizona races.)

    Noting that Republican members of Congress have been privately fretting about Trump’s racism, I invited each of the senators to comment on statements Trump has made in recent weeks:

    · Decrying schools, newsrooms and corporate boardrooms for a “new far-left fascism … designed to overthrow the American Revolution.”

    · Saying: “The unhinged left-wing mob is trying to vandalize our history, desecrate our monuments, our beautiful monuments, tear down our statues, and punish, cancel and persecute anyone who does not conform. … They want to demolish our heritage.”

    · Proclaiming: “The radical ideology attacking our country advances under the banner of social justice. But in truth, it would demolish both justice and society. We will not be tyrannized, we will not be demeaned, and we will not be intimidated by bad, evil people.”

    · Warning about the menace of “a very tough hombre” breaking into homes and the police not responding.

    · And his remarks on “kung flu,” NASCAR, military bases named for Confederates and the “white power” video.

    A few hours after my first inquiry, I emailed a reminder.

    In response, Loeffler’s campaign said that both she and Trump stand “strongly against racism” and that “this is just another one of the media’s silly games.”

    Graham’s campaign directed me to his radio interview Monday with Fox News’s Brian Kilmeade, in which Graham disagreed with Trump’s NASCAR tweet but said Trump isn’t racist. “You can be dark as coal or an albino. … He’s an equal-opportunity basher and praiser.”

    McConnell’s campaign said he “abhors racism” but his responsibilities “don’t include acting as a deputy press secretary for the White House.”

    Collins’s campaign said she “has challenged President Trump on many occasions," including “when he failed to immediately condemn the anti-Semitism and racism that led to the violent clashes in Charlottesville.”

    The others — Tillis, Perdue, Cornyn, Ernst, Gardner, McSally and Daines — responded as Republicans generally do when asked about Trump’s racism: with crickets.

    They think their silence protects them. But it does something else: It turns them into the handmaidens of white supremacy.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/06/silent-republican-lawmakers-are-handmaidens-white-supremacy/
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    What was that about voter fraud again?

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    Brilliant brilliance beyond all brilliance. Team trump Treason was going to ensure a repub majority for generations, so brilliant was he. Texas stays red but the blue wave continues to lap and erode.

    One of our major political parties is going to win Texas and its 38 electoral votes in November. Spoiler alert: It is not going to be the one that has not carried the Lone Star State since 1976, despite quadrennial fantasy pieces by pundits. Democrats should also not get too carried away about the state's House delegation, which is likely to remain red for the foreseeable future.

    This doesn't mean the GOP has anything to celebrate going into this fall's congressional elections. The majority Republicans enjoyed at the beginning of Donald Trump's presidency disappeared two years later, leaving them with nothing to show for it except tax cuts, i.e., the only thing the party does when it controls both houses of Congress and the presidency. A net gain of 20 seats that would return them to power in the lower chamber is well-nigh impossible. A modest shift of five or so is just about imaginable, but it's far more likely to go in the other direction.

    This, one suspects, is why even in Texas they are suddenly behaving like a losing party, which is to say one that cares more about fleecing the most reliable portion of its donor base than it does about trying to win a majority. Hence the recent election of Allen West, the one-term congressman from Florida, as chairman of the Texas Republican Party. When you put a carpet-bagger who was nearly court-martialed for torture in charge of boring logistical tasks like deciding what brand of seltzer you are going to serve at official GOP events because you know he is still popular with aging Tea Party types on Facebook, you know where you are.

    Meanwhile Democrats are likely to have a good year in the House even if Trump is re-elected this fall. It's difficult to imagine them passing any meaningful legislation in such a scenario, especially with the Senate likely to remain under GOP control. Instead we can look forward to Impeachment 2: Electric Boogaloo. The only question is whether the pretext for this unprecedented move will be Trump's handling of the pandemic, a throwaway line from a recently published memoir, or spurious allegations of receiving foreign assistance during the election.

    What if Joe Biden wins? Even then, we should not necessarily expect the kind of midterm anti-White House backlash that has delivered the House to opposition parties during the first terms of three of our last four presidents, in 2018, 2010, and 1994 respectively. This is true for a number of reasons, but the most important is that in the long run, the math in the House, as opposed to the Senate, is not favorable to Republicans. Democrats might complain about the built-in advantage for the party of rural America in the upper chamber, but the corollary in the lower one is the reality that even in the reddest of red states, cities and suburbs are getting bluer with each election cycle. In 2018, the GOP won only a quarter of districts in which a higher than average percentage of residents had at least a bachelor's degree. As Tom Davis, the former congressman and chairman of the Republican National Committee, put it recently, the suburbs were "the base of the Republican Party just a decade and a half ago. And there just aren't enough rural voters to make up for those kind [sic] of losses. It means for the Republicans that instead of picking up seats in the House, that the bleeding could continue."

    This is the real blue wave that the GOP faces, not a sudden unexpected tsunami, but a rising tide of unpopularity that will sooner or later become a bore and lead. To keep their heads above water, Republicans will either have to figure out how to retake the suburbs (which would involve, among other things, disavowing Trump when he leaves office and likely abandoning the culture-war issues that keep the party's rural white working class base going to the polls) or somehow make themselves appealing to socially conservative Black and Hispanic voters.

    My guess is that they are going to keep getting wet.

    https://theweek.com/articles/926609/gops-rising-tide-unpopularity
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    edited July 2020
    Matt, just change your last name to Gets. Matt Gets off. Matt Gets away with it. Matt Gets masked up on the House floor, Matt Gets lost, or one should hope. The Flo Rida panhandle should be so, so proud. I wonder if he leant his mask to the gubner of Flo Rida? Drain the swamp, suckers.

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    I guess he should resign? Or be fired? Its okay though, I'm sure there will be a job waiting for him on Senator "I'm a Warrior, Hear Me Roar" Cotton's staff.

    As ceremonies honoring the life of civil rights legend John Lewis began over the weekend in Alabama, one Republican state lawmaker elected to take part in a local celebration of another prominent figure in Southern history: Nathan Bedford Forrest, a Confederate Army general and the first grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan.

    On Saturday, state Rep. Will Dismukes (Prattville), who represents a district northwest of Montgomery, participated in an event honoring Forrest’s birthday at a private property near Selma called Fort Dixie. The gathering coincided with the arrival of Lewis’s body in the city where the late Georgia Democrat almost died 55 years ago as he led hundreds of protesters in a march across the Edmund Pettus Bridge on what became known as Bloody Sunday.

    “Had a great time at Fort Dixie speaking and giving the invocation for Nathan Bedford Forrest annual birthday celebration,” Dismukes, 30, wrote in a Facebook post over the weekend, sharing a photo of himself standing behind a lectern surrounded by several flags of the Confederacy. “Always a great time and some sure enough good eating!!”

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    Now, why would he go and do such a thing? Maybe Senator “I’m a Warrior, Hear Me Roar” Cotton or that fellow from Alabama can shed some light? What a party.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/28/politics/david-perdue-jon-ossoff-takes-down-ad/index.html
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    Lindsey Flimsy Flip Flop Faloozy Graham is getting desperate. What a POS.

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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,636
    What was that about voter fraud again?

    https://apple.news/AH3JHSGE0S8-nepqVKNZ0CQ


    seriously?

    that is not against the law. Only meat and potato crimes get prosecuted.
  • BF89905BF89905 Posts: 1,417
    I just watched a clip on CNN of Jim Jordan questioning Fauci about large groups having the potential to spread CV-19. Jordan's trying to get Fauci to say that the protests should be limited; which the latter doesn't do -  power to him.  Protest with vigor  with a mask on always, please.

    I really hope the divisiveness and public health in America improves sooner than later. Stay safe and kind everyone.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    Drain the swamp? What kind of promises do you think will be made? It’s gonna be like an Arkansas bible tent revival with snakes and speaking in tongues and casting out the Clintons and Obamas with Tom I’m A Warrior Hear Me Roar Cotton thumping the Bible, Ruddy Ghouliani warming up the crowd and Steve O to light the cross. Robes and hoods protect against the covid devil spawn don’t you know?

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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,522
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/01/politics/rnc-charlotte-press/index.html
    What do they have to hide? Aren’t they the party of life family values lol righteous constitution defenders ..masks optional lol 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/01/politics/rnc-charlotte-press/index.html
    What do they have to hide? Aren’t they the party of life family values lol righteous constitution defenders ..masks optional lol 
    My money says they don’t want any cameras to see them all in the hypocrisy of wearing masks and social distancing.
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  • i just saw that trump's campaign is now sending out emails that trump is adamant in his support of masks. talk about a 180...
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  • SmellymanSmellyman Posts: 4,524
    i just saw that trump's campaign is now sending out emails that trump is adamant in his support of masks. talk about a 180...

    quit falling for this.  He feels the same way
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    edited August 2020
    Word on the street is that the Team Trump Treason campaign is pulling out of Michigan. 4D chess and brilliant brilliance in all its brilliancy.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,671
    Word on the street is that the Team Trump Treason campaign is pulling out of Michigan. 4D chess and brilliant brilliance in all its brilliancy.
    No way... cmon..  he's going to do worse in PA than MI. How does he win forfeiting Michigan?? Where did you read?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    mrussel1 said:
    Word on the street is that the Team Trump Treason campaign is pulling out of Michigan. 4D chess and brilliant brilliance in all its brilliancy.
    No way... cmon..  he's going to do worse in PA than MI. How does he win forfeiting Michigan?? Where did you read?
    Interview with a NYT editorial writer who claimed close contacts with Team Trump Treason campaign insiders. Reason being Sleepy Woke Joe is up 8 and it’s a lost cause so better to focus on states they traditionally haven’t had to like Tejas and Georgia. Repubs will deny it but he only won by 10,000 in 2016 and they have a dem governor. 300,000 covid deaths by the end of October won’t help either.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,671
    mrussel1 said:
    Word on the street is that the Team Trump Treason campaign is pulling out of Michigan. 4D chess and brilliant brilliance in all its brilliancy.
    No way... cmon..  he's going to do worse in PA than MI. How does he win forfeiting Michigan?? Where did you read?
    Interview with a NYT editorial writer who claimed close contacts with Team Trump Treason campaign insiders. Reason being Sleepy Woke Joe is up 8 and it’s a lost cause so better to focus on states they traditionally haven’t had to like Tejas and Georgia. Repubs will deny it but he only won by 10,000 in 2016 and they have a dem governor. 300,000 covid deaths by the end of October won’t help either.
    I don't know.  It will be easy to see if that's true pretty quickly.  But the strategy of going heavy into Georgia and other traditionally safe states is what happens when the election is a forgone conclusion and the party is trying to limit the losses.  This is what Dole did in 96, knowing he was going to lose but trying to prevent the down ticket Rs from being wiped out. I don't believe for a second Trump would ever do that. 
  • i read over the weekend that stopping the michigan ad buy is only temporary. may have changed in the last few days though.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    Please, please, please, pretty please?

    New poll finds tough road ahead for McConnell, Graham and Collins

    Three high-profile Republican senators up for reelection this year are in tight competitions to hold onto their long-held jobs and keep the Senate in GOP control.

    New Quinnipiac University polls in Kentucky, South Carolina and Maine found that against their respective Democratic challengers, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is ahead by five points, Lindsey O. Graham is in a virtual dead heat and Susan Collins is down by four points.

    Amy McGrath in Kentucky, Jaime Harrison in South Carolina and Sara Gideon in Maine are the Democratic opponents.

    Some of McConnell’s, Graham’s and Collins’s fate rests in how voters in their states feel about the man at the top of the ticket. The more people who come out to vote against President Trump, the greater the chance they could lose their seats. In each of their states, more voters say their senator has been “too supportive” of Trump, while very few say they haven’t been supportive enough.

    Ironically, Collins, the one of the three who hasn’t been in lockstep with the president and even voted to hear more witnesses in Trump’s impeachment hearing, is viewed by nearly 50 percent of the Maine electorate as too supportive of Trump.

    The presidential head-to-heads also forecast the biggest challenge for Collins. Joe Biden is leading Trump by 15 points in Maine. Trump is up nine points in Kentucky and five points in South Carolina, narrow margins for traditionally conservative states that Trump won handily by double digits in 2016.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2020/08/06/trump-biden-live-updates/?hpid=hp_hp-more-top-stories_election-ticker-830am:prime-time/promo#link-YIDRI24URVGSJO2D4ZLKI2TBQM
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    Team Trump Treason has folks feeling their freak. Who needs a friend like jeffry Epstein? Birds of a feather. Suckers.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8600299/Liberty-University-president-Jerry-Falwell-Jr-apologizes-picture-pants-unzipped.html

    And check the pic because you just have to wonder how “they” square it. Someone should ask Kellyann CONway her thoughts and ask her to wear her biggest cross for the appearance.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    Way to represent. Sleepy Woke Joe ain’t got nothing on this guy. Maybe he’ll be the next Secretary of Transportation in the Team Trump Treason Administration?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/08/07/michigan-mask-racist-slur/
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,138
    Way to represent. Sleepy Woke Joe ain’t got nothing on this guy. Maybe he’ll be the next Secretary of Transportation in the Team Trump Treason Administration?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/08/07/michigan-mask-racist-slur/

    I think Chao has it as long as she wants it.

    It'll be interesting in the second term.  Will they just go all out and appoint Richard Spencer and David Duke to something?  May as well.  It's their country now.
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    Awwwwww, look who’s begging for help, Mr. Tough Guy himself. Gee Gubnor, figure it out yourself, seeing how you were so smart and tough.

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