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That'd be nice... but not really practical for the US circa 2018.PJ_Soul said:
My point was that you need to do that without referring to religion, because religion is necessarily divisive. Keep Jesus and every other religious character, including God, out of it, and everything would go much more smoothly. I don't feel like pandering to the right's religious fanatics is a viable plan, personally. Separation of church and state should be just that, even for the right wing nutters. Until America learns that lesson, the chances of things getting better are slim to none.mrussel1 said:
The left has ceded the ground to the right and it has hurt the left. Yet, Jesus's teachings were completely liberal. Now I'm being a cold, calculating political bastard here, but if his teachings align with progressive ideals (which you lined out above), then this is way to find commonality between the left and right and heal the rift! And try to build the base! That's my point.HughFreakingDillon said:
I'm not hung up on anything. I think that using Jesus's teachings, to the general populace, would be indistinguishable from the Christian Jesus.mrussel1 said:
I don't know what you mean.... Jesus showed up in contemporaneous writings soon after his death.PJ_Soul said:
There is actually a lot of controversy about that. But even if that weren't true, Christianity has very little relation to anything Jesus is reported to have preached. He was anti-establishment, and that is literally the only reason he did anything, really, whereas Christianity is the exact opposite.mrussel1 said:
The historical Jesus existed. There is very little controversy about that.PJ_Soul said:
Yeah, that's a much better idea!HughFreakingDillon said:
I would tie my policies to inspirational humans from history, not beings that may or may not exist and cause so much political and ethical polarity.mrussel1 said:
That's an interesting point, because you use the word "religion". I think of it as spirituality which would include Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed (where appropriate, but admittedly not familiar with his true teachings), and even Ghandi. And I would highly encourage Democrats to pin their messages to the spiritual teachings of the aforementioned people. If I ever ran for office, I would absolutely tie my policies to those teachings.PJ_Soul said:
Agreed. Politically, the left shouldn't reference any religion at all, unless they're talking about how it's irrelevant.HughFreakingDillon said:
religion is not the solution. it is part of the problem.mrussel1 said:
Exactly! That's why the left should not shun Christianity, rather take it back from the Right.oftenreading said:
Well, sure. The Christ as described in the bible was an activist and a socialist. Hard to imagine the right today embracing these principles.mrussel1 said:
I won't argue that religion should be a part of political life. I will argue that if we lived the New Testament and the actual Word , we would have a better world. Your alarm bells are triggered by centuries of corruption of His teachings.PJ_Soul said:
(replying to old post) True, but this is not where my head goes when any politician names his religion as a quality voters should be considering. Just that alone rings the alarm bells. I don't think any politician should ever mention their religion as a part of their campaign, because doing so necessarily indicates they intend to apply their religious beliefs to governance, and that is wrong IMO.mrussel1 said:Christianity is not incompatible with freedom, not when you read the actual New Testament. In fact, Christianity is directly incompatible with the alt-Right. Jesus's teachings on the poor, the humble and "strangers" run directly counter.
You guys are getting hung up on the history of the Church and the crimes, vs the teachings. I'm focused on the teachings.0 -
People seem to take religion so seriously, like get offended by other peoples' beliefs waaaaay too much in the U.S. I guess it's everywhere really.Dublin 2006
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If nothing ever changes, nothing ever changes.... This is why I don't have too much hope or faith when it comes to America right now.mrussel1 said:
That'd be nice... but not really practical for the US circa 2018.PJ_Soul said:
My point was that you need to do that without referring to religion, because religion is necessarily divisive. Keep Jesus and every other religious character, including God, out of it, and everything would go much more smoothly. I don't feel like pandering to the right's religious fanatics is a viable plan, personally. Separation of church and state should be just that, even for the right wing nutters. Until America learns that lesson, the chances of things getting better are slim to none.mrussel1 said:
The left has ceded the ground to the right and it has hurt the left. Yet, Jesus's teachings were completely liberal. Now I'm being a cold, calculating political bastard here, but if his teachings align with progressive ideals (which you lined out above), then this is way to find commonality between the left and right and heal the rift! And try to build the base! That's my point.HughFreakingDillon said:
I'm not hung up on anything. I think that using Jesus's teachings, to the general populace, would be indistinguishable from the Christian Jesus.mrussel1 said:
I don't know what you mean.... Jesus showed up in contemporaneous writings soon after his death.PJ_Soul said:
There is actually a lot of controversy about that. But even if that weren't true, Christianity has very little relation to anything Jesus is reported to have preached. He was anti-establishment, and that is literally the only reason he did anything, really, whereas Christianity is the exact opposite.mrussel1 said:
The historical Jesus existed. There is very little controversy about that.PJ_Soul said:
Yeah, that's a much better idea!HughFreakingDillon said:
I would tie my policies to inspirational humans from history, not beings that may or may not exist and cause so much political and ethical polarity.mrussel1 said:
That's an interesting point, because you use the word "religion". I think of it as spirituality which would include Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed (where appropriate, but admittedly not familiar with his true teachings), and even Ghandi. And I would highly encourage Democrats to pin their messages to the spiritual teachings of the aforementioned people. If I ever ran for office, I would absolutely tie my policies to those teachings.PJ_Soul said:
Agreed. Politically, the left shouldn't reference any religion at all, unless they're talking about how it's irrelevant.HughFreakingDillon said:
religion is not the solution. it is part of the problem.mrussel1 said:
Exactly! That's why the left should not shun Christianity, rather take it back from the Right.oftenreading said:
Well, sure. The Christ as described in the bible was an activist and a socialist. Hard to imagine the right today embracing these principles.mrussel1 said:
I won't argue that religion should be a part of political life. I will argue that if we lived the New Testament and the actual Word , we would have a better world. Your alarm bells are triggered by centuries of corruption of His teachings.PJ_Soul said:
(replying to old post) True, but this is not where my head goes when any politician names his religion as a quality voters should be considering. Just that alone rings the alarm bells. I don't think any politician should ever mention their religion as a part of their campaign, because doing so necessarily indicates they intend to apply their religious beliefs to governance, and that is wrong IMO.mrussel1 said:Christianity is not incompatible with freedom, not when you read the actual New Testament. In fact, Christianity is directly incompatible with the alt-Right. Jesus's teachings on the poor, the humble and "strangers" run directly counter.
You guys are getting hung up on the history of the Church and the crimes, vs the teachings. I'm focused on the teachings.
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True, but when politicians are inserting those beliefs into public policy/law, people have a really good reason to get offended.ConorKavanagh said:People seem to take religion so seriously, like get offended by other peoples' beliefs waaaaay too much in the U.S. I guess it's everywhere really.
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I know what your point is. but i disagree with it completely. the left have abandoned the christian faith in droves. why? because they know they don't need religion to be a good and decent person. those weren't the teachings of jesus. they are common morality that is inherent in us all. morality and decency didn't begin 2000 years ago. it began with our conscience. christianty merely coopted it and claimed it as its own, like many/most of its traditions/teachings.mrussel1 said:
The left has ceded the ground to the right and it has hurt the left. Yet, Jesus's teachings were completely liberal. Now I'm being a cold, calculating political bastard here, but if his teachings align with progressive ideals (which you lined out above), then this is way to find commonality between the left and right and heal the rift! And try to build the base! That's my point.HughFreakingDillon said:
I'm not hung up on anything. I think that using Jesus's teachings, to the general populace, would be indistinguishable from the Christian Jesus.mrussel1 said:
I don't know what you mean.... Jesus showed up in contemporaneous writings soon after his death.PJ_Soul said:
There is actually a lot of controversy about that. But even if that weren't true, Christianity has very little relation to anything Jesus is reported to have preached. He was anti-establishment, and that is literally the only reason he did anything, really, whereas Christianity is the exact opposite.mrussel1 said:
The historical Jesus existed. There is very little controversy about that.PJ_Soul said:
Yeah, that's a much better idea!HughFreakingDillon said:
I would tie my policies to inspirational humans from history, not beings that may or may not exist and cause so much political and ethical polarity.mrussel1 said:
That's an interesting point, because you use the word "religion". I think of it as spirituality which would include Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed (where appropriate, but admittedly not familiar with his true teachings), and even Ghandi. And I would highly encourage Democrats to pin their messages to the spiritual teachings of the aforementioned people. If I ever ran for office, I would absolutely tie my policies to those teachings.PJ_Soul said:
Agreed. Politically, the left shouldn't reference any religion at all, unless they're talking about how it's irrelevant.HughFreakingDillon said:
religion is not the solution. it is part of the problem.mrussel1 said:
Exactly! That's why the left should not shun Christianity, rather take it back from the Right.oftenreading said:
Well, sure. The Christ as described in the bible was an activist and a socialist. Hard to imagine the right today embracing these principles.mrussel1 said:
I won't argue that religion should be a part of political life. I will argue that if we lived the New Testament and the actual Word , we would have a better world. Your alarm bells are triggered by centuries of corruption of His teachings.PJ_Soul said:
(replying to old post) True, but this is not where my head goes when any politician names his religion as a quality voters should be considering. Just that alone rings the alarm bells. I don't think any politician should ever mention their religion as a part of their campaign, because doing so necessarily indicates they intend to apply their religious beliefs to governance, and that is wrong IMO.mrussel1 said:Christianity is not incompatible with freedom, not when you read the actual New Testament. In fact, Christianity is directly incompatible with the alt-Right. Jesus's teachings on the poor, the humble and "strangers" run directly counter.
You guys are getting hung up on the history of the Church and the crimes, vs the teachings. I'm focused on the teachings.
you will not unite the country through jesus, whether you try to separate him from religion or not. i'm sorry, but that to me is undeniable.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
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Dent seemed like one of the few good ones.Halifax2TheMax said:Repube Charlie Dent resigns immediately. Another client of Cohen?0 -
RNC created this page filled with Democrat after Democrat calling out James Lyin Comey
https://www.lyincomey.com/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVvKw_Ez6es&feature=youtu.be
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I kinda like ‘slippery James Comey’ better.JC29856 said:RNC created this page filled with Democrat after Democrat calling out James Lyin Comey
https://www.lyincomey.com/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVvKw_Ez6es&feature=youtu.be0 -
JC29856 said:RNC created this page filled with Democrat after Democrat calling out James Lyin Comey
https://www.lyincomey.com/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVvKw_Ez6es&feature=youtu.be
Ummm they're upset because what Comey did tipped the election into Trump's favor. So what we have here is a president and a Republican Party claiming that Comey was involved in a conspiracy theory............to help elect Republican Donald Trump. Irony.
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I bet Nunes and Gowdy will lay the foundation for Rothstein & Muller to get fired that process has already begun ...jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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they made this website!The Juggler said:JC29856 said:RNC created this page filled with Democrat after Democrat calling out James Lyin Comey
https://www.lyincomey.com/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVvKw_Ez6es&feature=youtu.be
Ummm they're upset because what Comey did tipped the election into Trump's favor. So what we have here is a president and a Republican Party claiming that Comey was involved in a conspiracy theory............to help elect Republican Donald Trump. Irony.
I'll ask again, what happened to the Republican Party?
https://gop.com/comeys-long-history-of-misstatements-and-misconduct-rsr/
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JC29856 said:
they made this website!The Juggler said:JC29856 said:RNC created this page filled with Democrat after Democrat calling out James Lyin Comey
https://www.lyincomey.com/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVvKw_Ez6es&feature=youtu.be
Ummm they're upset because what Comey did tipped the election into Trump's favor. So what we have here is a president and a Republican Party claiming that Comey was involved in a conspiracy theory............to help elect Republican Donald Trump. Irony.
I'll ask again, what happened to the Republican Party?
https://gop.com/comeys-long-history-of-misstatements-and-misconduct-rsr/
Wooo! A website from the "law and order" party smearing the former leader of the highest law enforcement agency in the country!MERICA!
Yeah....soooooo, what happened to the republican party?
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josevolution said:I bet Nunes and Gowdy will lay the foundation for Rothstein & Muller to get fired that process has already begun ...
Nunez especially. He is a traitor and an incompetent boob.
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Def should go to jail a traitor no doubt ...The Juggler said:josevolution said:I bet Nunes and Gowdy will lay the foundation for Rothstein & Muller to get fired that process has already begun ...
Nunez especially. He is a traitor and an incompetent boob.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_MuellerJC29856 said:
they made this website!The Juggler said:JC29856 said:RNC created this page filled with Democrat after Democrat calling out James Lyin Comey
https://www.lyincomey.com/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVvKw_Ez6es&feature=youtu.be
Ummm they're upset because what Comey did tipped the election into Trump's favor. So what we have here is a president and a Republican Party claiming that Comey was involved in a conspiracy theory............to help elect Republican Donald Trump. Irony.
I'll ask again, what happened to the Republican Party?
https://gop.com/comeys-long-history-of-misstatements-and-misconduct-rsr/
This is the guy who you say deserves to be jailed he has more courage than 90% of the senators & congressmen , the man fought for your right to be a keyboard warrior and for the bafoon who you defend on a daily basis to be elected to the highest office ...jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
http://www.businessinsider.com/pittsburgh-police-prepare-for-riots-if-trump-fires-mueller-2018-4
Now why would Pittsburg police be instructed to do this ...jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
Oh, crapjosevolution said:http://www.businessinsider.com/pittsburgh-police-prepare-for-riots-if-trump-fires-mueller-2018-4
Now why would Pittsburg police be instructed to do this ...0 -
They wouldn’t. But Pittsburgh with an “h” would. Sorry pet peeve being born in Pittsburgh.josevolution said:http://www.businessinsider.com/pittsburgh-police-prepare-for-riots-if-trump-fires-mueller-2018-4
Now why would Pittsburg police be instructed to do this ...
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