The Confederacy - Erasing History
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Really? You need help discerning the difference? You need someone to explain the difference? 3D playin and slayin, don't hate the game..........JC29856 said:
duh, stupid me. I couldn't put the two together. now I get what HFD meant in his reply. anyway the context of the conversation was about erecting statues from the losing side of wars, its all there on the same page. someone thought it was stupid to put up statues honoring the losers I asked if the three soldiers statue (below link) was stupid, to which someone replied asinine, then it picks up above, why' it's a statue and we lost the war.Bentleyspop said:
Here is your post from August 15th....JC29856 said:
this is from a few pages back, what is this supposed to mean? I don't get it... "we" "we lost the war"Bentleyspop said:
"We"?JC29856 said:how so? Its a statue and we lost the war
"We lost the war"?
Says a lot about you right there
should I not refer to we because I didn't personally serve?
how so? Its a statue and we lost the warGtilley8 said:That is absolutely asinine.
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People who support the idea of the confederacy often use the term "we"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Three_Soldiers
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Nope..twas me. My wife did the same run as you. She grew up off Atlee Station Road. Class of 91, then UR. We live in Glen Allen now.Enkidu said:
Did I post this? I went to Stonewall Jackson Primary, Thomas Jefferson Elementary, Robert E. Lee High School. (And UVa for college.) My mom worked at Stuart Hall (as in Jeb Stuart), a private girls school.mrussel1 said:
There's a city right outside Richmond called Mechanicsville. The Middle school is Stonewall Jackson and the HS is Lee-Davis. ridiculous.Enkidu said:I'm throwing this out here - last year there was a big debate in my hometown (small town in VA) about changing the name of the high school (there's only one) from Robert E. Lee to something else. I'm guessing the issue will come up again.
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Here's an interesting little tidbit of history/nostalgia:
In the 1950's there was a gas station on San Antonio Rd. bordering the cities of Palo Alto and Mountain View in California called "Stars and Bars". We never went there for gas so one day I asked my folks why not. They both said, "Oh no! We will NOT get gas there!" but they never told me why.
In Henry Rollings Before the Chop III, which I am currently reading, Henry refers to the Confederate flag as "Stars and bars".
60 later, mystery solved!
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Robert E. Lee discouraged monuments. They ‘keep open the sores of war,’ he wrote.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/08/18/robert-e-lee-discouraged-monuments-they-keep-open-the-sores-of-war-he-wrote/?hpid=hp_hp-morning-mix_mm-lee:homepage/story&utm_term=.254a50e7ae690 -
What conclusions are drawn from this letter to Horace Greeley from Abe Lincoln about the Civil War?
Executive Mansion,
Washington, August 22, 1862.Hon. Horace Greeley:
Dear Sir.I have just read yours of the 19th. addressed to myself through the New-York Tribune. If there be in it any statements, or assumptions of fact, which I may know to be erroneous, I do not, now and here, controvert them. If there be in it any inferences which I may believe to be falsely drawn, I do not now and here, argue against them. If there be perceptable in it an impatient and dictatorial tone, I waive it in deference to an old friend, whose heart I have always supposed to be right.
As to the policy I "seem to be pursuing" as you say, I have not meant to leave any one in doubt.
I would save the Union. I would save it the shortest way under the Constitution. The sooner the national authority can be restored; the nearer the Union will be "the Union as it was." If there be those who would not save the Union, unless they could at the same time save slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause. I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views.
I have here stated my purpose according to my view of official duty; and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed personal wish that all men every where could be free.
Yours,
A. Lincoln.
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JC29856 said:What conclusions are drawn from this letter to Horace Greeley from Abe Lincoln about the Civil War?
Executive Mansion,
Washington, August 22, 1862.Hon. Horace Greeley:
Dear Sir.I have just read yours of the 19th. addressed to myself through the New-York Tribune. If there be in it any statements, or assumptions of fact, which I may know to be erroneous, I do not, now and here, controvert them. If there be in it any inferences which I may believe to be falsely drawn, I do not now and here, argue against them. If there be perceptable in it an impatient and dictatorial tone, I waive it in deference to an old friend, whose heart I have always supposed to be right.
As to the policy I "seem to be pursuing" as you say, I have not meant to leave any one in doubt.
I would save the Union. I would save it the shortest way under the Constitution. The sooner the national authority can be restored; the nearer the Union will be "the Union as it was." If there be those who would not save the Union, unless they could at the same time save slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause. I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views.
I have here stated my purpose according to my view of official duty; and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed personal wish that all men every where could be free.
Yours,
A. Lincoln.
Here's what I pulled out, but maybe you skipped this part:
"I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views."0 -
C'mon, you expected 3D to see or comprehend that? C'mon.CM189191 said:JC29856 said:What conclusions are drawn from this letter to Horace Greeley from Abe Lincoln about the Civil War?Executive Mansion,
Washington, August 22, 1862.Hon. Horace Greeley:
Dear Sir.I have just read yours of the 19th. addressed to myself through the New-York Tribune. If there be in it any statements, or assumptions of fact, which I may know to be erroneous, I do not, now and here, controvert them. If there be in it any inferences which I may believe to be falsely drawn, I do not now and here, argue against them. If there be perceptable in it an impatient and dictatorial tone, I waive it in deference to an old friend, whose heart I have always supposed to be right.
As to the policy I "seem to be pursuing" as you say, I have not meant to leave any one in doubt.
I would save the Union. I would save it the shortest way under the Constitution. The sooner the national authority can be restored; the nearer the Union will be "the Union as it was." If there be those who would not save the Union, unless they could at the same time save slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause. I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views.
I have here stated my purpose according to my view of official duty; and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed personal wish that all men every where could be free.
Yours,
A. Lincoln.
Here's what I pulled out, but maybe you skipped this part:
"I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views."09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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ironically, those are words I live byCM189191 said:JC29856 said:What conclusions are drawn from this letter to Horace Greeley from Abe Lincoln about the Civil War?Executive Mansion,
Washington, August 22, 1862.Hon. Horace Greeley:
Dear Sir.I have just read yours of the 19th. addressed to myself through the New-York Tribune. If there be in it any statements, or assumptions of fact, which I may know to be erroneous, I do not, now and here, controvert them. If there be in it any inferences which I may believe to be falsely drawn, I do not now and here, argue against them. If there be perceptable in it an impatient and dictatorial tone, I waive it in deference to an old friend, whose heart I have always supposed to be right.
As to the policy I "seem to be pursuing" as you say, I have not meant to leave any one in doubt.
I would save the Union. I would save it the shortest way under the Constitution. The sooner the national authority can be restored; the nearer the Union will be "the Union as it was." If there be those who would not save the Union, unless they could at the same time save slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause. I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views.
I have here stated my purpose according to my view of official duty; and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed personal wish that all men every where could be free.
Yours,
A. Lincoln.
Here's what I pulled out, but maybe you skipped this part:
"I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views."
what conclusions did you draw from the letter dated 8.22.1862 or from just that part?
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BREAKING NEWS... Jc discovered that Lincoln's primary objective was to save the union. Who knew until today? Oh yeah, people that got through 10th grade history.
Of course lets not forget the South's reason was to preserve slavery. Go read the Keystone Speech by Alexander Stephens and try to argue differently.
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another spin on the virtual twister wheelmrussel1 said:BREAKING NEWS... Jc discovered that Lincoln's primary objective was to save the union. Who knew until today? Oh yeah, people that got through 10th grade history.
Of course lets not forget the South's reason was to preserve slavery. Go read the Keystone Speech by Alexander Stephens and try to argue differently.
JC is PJFan with better Google skills.
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Ain't no spin.. Perhaps you should blame yourself for having a tenuous grasp of history. Did it never occur to you that the Emancipation Proclamation was written in 1863 (three years after secession) only freeing the southern slaves? More breaking news, eh? Maybe this will be the lead on Breitbart since this is 'secret history'.JC29856 said:
another spin on the virtual twister wheelmrussel1 said:BREAKING NEWS... Jc discovered that Lincoln's primary objective was to save the union. Who knew until today? Oh yeah, people that got through 10th grade history.
Of course lets not forget the South's reason was to preserve slavery. Go read the Keystone Speech by Alexander Stephens and try to argue differently.
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I assume everyone here knows that the civil war was not (as important as that issue was) only about slavery. Just in case, here's a good explanation:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeff-schweitzer/slavery-and-the-civil-war_b_849066.html
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It's a good read, but I ultimately disagree with his final conclusion:brianlux said:I assume everyone here knows that the civil war was not (as important as that issue was) only about slavery. Just in case, here's a good explanation:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeff-schweitzer/slavery-and-the-civil-war_b_849066.html
The war was about a principle, state sovereignty and the right of secession, that would destroy the United States; the example of that issue was the right to own slaves.
I would argue the inverse... the war for the South was about the protection of slavery, under the pretext of states' rights. Southern sympathizers use the 10th as the basis of the argument, ignoring of course Article IV. But if it was really about states' rights, why didn't the Nullification Crisis of 1832 lead to secession? In fact Calhoun resigned the VP in order to fight for the right of Nullification in the Senate. But no forts were taken, no arms were seized during that crisis.
I've posted bits of the Cornerstone Speech before, but I'll do it again because I believe it's the most powerful argument against the revisionism of the sympathizers of the Cause.. The speech was given by Alexander Stephens, the VP of the Confederacy. So he was in a good position to know and to provide the thought leadership on the Cause. Here are two quotes that I believe are instructive...
The new Constitution has put at rest forever all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institutions—African slavery as it exists among us—the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution. Jefferson, in his forecast, had anticipated this, as the "rock upon which the old Union would split." He was right.
.. and later..
Our new government is founded upon exactly [this] idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests upon the great truth, that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery -- subordination to the superior race -- is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth.
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DJ Mruss going to spin you thru global history with his latest spin single, entitled "how the entire planet was built on the backs of slaves excluding of course a few northeastern blue states in the union.......heeeeeeeeeeerrreeeees DJ Mruss!mrussel1 said:
Ain't no spin.. Perhaps you should blame yourself for having a tenuous grasp of history. Did it never occur to you that the Emancipation Proclamation was written in 1863 (three years after secession) only freeing the southern slaves? More breaking news, eh? Maybe this will be the lead on Breitbart since this is 'secret history'.JC29856 said:
another spin on the virtual twister wheelmrussel1 said:BREAKING NEWS... Jc discovered that Lincoln's primary objective was to save the union. Who knew until today? Oh yeah, people that got through 10th grade history.
Of course lets not forget the South's reason was to preserve slavery. Go read the Keystone Speech by Alexander Stephens and try to argue differently.
JC is PJFan with better Google skills.
this spin earned you another spin, spin again!
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This is another way of you proving you're full of shit, since you can't sustain an argument that gets past one layer deep. You make an incendiary statement, it's refuted (usually easily) and you say crap like this or move on to the next POS article you pick up in 4Chan or wherever. I wish @BS44325 was still around. I disagree with him on most things but at least he could formulate his own thoughts.JC29856 said:
DJ Mruss going to spin you thru global history with his latest spin single, entitled "how the entire planet was built on the backs of slaves excluding of course a few northeastern blue states in the union.......heeeeeeeeeeerrreeeees DJ Mruss!mrussel1 said:
Ain't no spin.. Perhaps you should blame yourself for having a tenuous grasp of history. Did it never occur to you that the Emancipation Proclamation was written in 1863 (three years after secession) only freeing the southern slaves? More breaking news, eh? Maybe this will be the lead on Breitbart since this is 'secret history'.JC29856 said:
another spin on the virtual twister wheelmrussel1 said:BREAKING NEWS... Jc discovered that Lincoln's primary objective was to save the union. Who knew until today? Oh yeah, people that got through 10th grade history.
Of course lets not forget the South's reason was to preserve slavery. Go read the Keystone Speech by Alexander Stephens and try to argue differently.
JC is PJFan with better Google skills.
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Whaddaya need @mrussel1 ?mrussel1 said:
This is another way of you proving you're full of shit, since you can't sustain an argument that gets past one layer deep. You make an incendiary statement, it's refuted (usually easily) and you say crap like this or move on to the next POS article you pick up in 4Chan or wherever. I wish @BS44325 was still around. I disagree with him on most things but at least he could formulate his own thoughts.JC29856 said:
DJ Mruss going to spin you thru global history with his latest spin single, entitled "how the entire planet was built on the backs of slaves excluding of course a few northeastern blue states in the union.......heeeeeeeeeeerrreeeees DJ Mruss!mrussel1 said:
Ain't no spin.. Perhaps you should blame yourself for having a tenuous grasp of history. Did it never occur to you that the Emancipation Proclamation was written in 1863 (three years after secession) only freeing the southern slaves? More breaking news, eh? Maybe this will be the lead on Breitbart since this is 'secret history'.JC29856 said:
another spin on the virtual twister wheelmrussel1 said:BREAKING NEWS... Jc discovered that Lincoln's primary objective was to save the union. Who knew until today? Oh yeah, people that got through 10th grade history.
Of course lets not forget the South's reason was to preserve slavery. Go read the Keystone Speech by Alexander Stephens and try to argue differently.
JC is PJFan with better Google skills.
this spin earned you another spin, spin again!
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mrussel1 said:
This is another way of you proving you're full of shit, since you can't sustain an argument that gets past one layer deep. You make an incendiary statement, it's refuted (usually easily) and you say crap like this or move on to the next POS article you pick up in 4Chan or wherever. I wish @BS44325 was still around. I disagree with him on most things but at least he could formulate his own thoughts.JC29856 said:
DJ Mruss going to spin you thru global history with his latest spin single, entitled "how the entire planet was built on the backs of slaves excluding of course a few northeastern blue states in the union.......heeeeeeeeeeerrreeeees DJ Mruss!mrussel1 said:
Ain't no spin.. Perhaps you should blame yourself for having a tenuous grasp of history. Did it never occur to you that the Emancipation Proclamation was written in 1863 (three years after secession) only freeing the southern slaves? More breaking news, eh? Maybe this will be the lead on Breitbart since this is 'secret history'.JC29856 said:
another spin on the virtual twister wheelmrussel1 said:BREAKING NEWS... Jc discovered that Lincoln's primary objective was to save the union. Who knew until today? Oh yeah, people that got through 10th grade history.
Of course lets not forget the South's reason was to preserve slavery. Go read the Keystone Speech by Alexander Stephens and try to argue differently.
JC is PJFan with better Google skills.
this spin earned you another spin, spin again!
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A good fucking argument for a change...BS44325 said:
Whaddaya need @mrussel1 ?mrussel1 said:
This is another way of you proving you're full of shit, since you can't sustain an argument that gets past one layer deep. You make an incendiary statement, it's refuted (usually easily) and you say crap like this or move on to the next POS article you pick up in 4Chan or wherever. I wish @BS44325 was still around. I disagree with him on most things but at least he could formulate his own thoughts.JC29856 said:
DJ Mruss going to spin you thru global history with his latest spin single, entitled "how the entire planet was built on the backs of slaves excluding of course a few northeastern blue states in the union.......heeeeeeeeeeerrreeeees DJ Mruss!mrussel1 said:
Ain't no spin.. Perhaps you should blame yourself for having a tenuous grasp of history. Did it never occur to you that the Emancipation Proclamation was written in 1863 (three years after secession) only freeing the southern slaves? More breaking news, eh? Maybe this will be the lead on Breitbart since this is 'secret history'.JC29856 said:
another spin on the virtual twister wheelmrussel1 said:BREAKING NEWS... Jc discovered that Lincoln's primary objective was to save the union. Who knew until today? Oh yeah, people that got through 10th grade history.
Of course lets not forget the South's reason was to preserve slavery. Go read the Keystone Speech by Alexander Stephens and try to argue differently.
JC is PJFan with better Google skills.
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Ha. I bet.mrussel1 said:
A good fucking argument for a change...BS44325 said:
Whaddaya need @mrussel1 ?mrussel1 said:
This is another way of you proving you're full of shit, since you can't sustain an argument that gets past one layer deep. You make an incendiary statement, it's refuted (usually easily) and you say crap like this or move on to the next POS article you pick up in 4Chan or wherever. I wish @BS44325 was still around. I disagree with him on most things but at least he could formulate his own thoughts.JC29856 said:
DJ Mruss going to spin you thru global history with his latest spin single, entitled "how the entire planet was built on the backs of slaves excluding of course a few northeastern blue states in the union.......heeeeeeeeeeerrreeeees DJ Mruss!mrussel1 said:
Ain't no spin.. Perhaps you should blame yourself for having a tenuous grasp of history. Did it never occur to you that the Emancipation Proclamation was written in 1863 (three years after secession) only freeing the southern slaves? More breaking news, eh? Maybe this will be the lead on Breitbart since this is 'secret history'.JC29856 said:
another spin on the virtual twister wheelmrussel1 said:BREAKING NEWS... Jc discovered that Lincoln's primary objective was to save the union. Who knew until today? Oh yeah, people that got through 10th grade history.
Of course lets not forget the South's reason was to preserve slavery. Go read the Keystone Speech by Alexander Stephens and try to argue differently.
JC is PJFan with better Google skills.
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ahhh, the life of a bachelor. sometimes I do miss the single lifemrussel1 said:
A good fucking argument for a change...BS44325 said:
Whaddaya need @mrussel1 ?mrussel1 said:
This is another way of you proving you're full of shit, since you can't sustain an argument that gets past one layer deep. You make an incendiary statement, it's refuted (usually easily) and you say crap like this or move on to the next POS article you pick up in 4Chan or wherever. I wish @BS44325 was still around. I disagree with him on most things but at least he could formulate his own thoughts.JC29856 said:
DJ Mruss going to spin you thru global history with his latest spin single, entitled "how the entire planet was built on the backs of slaves excluding of course a few northeastern blue states in the union.......heeeeeeeeeeerrreeeees DJ Mruss!mrussel1 said:
Ain't no spin.. Perhaps you should blame yourself for having a tenuous grasp of history. Did it never occur to you that the Emancipation Proclamation was written in 1863 (three years after secession) only freeing the southern slaves? More breaking news, eh? Maybe this will be the lead on Breitbart since this is 'secret history'.JC29856 said:
another spin on the virtual twister wheelmrussel1 said:BREAKING NEWS... Jc discovered that Lincoln's primary objective was to save the union. Who knew until today? Oh yeah, people that got through 10th grade history.
Of course lets not forget the South's reason was to preserve slavery. Go read the Keystone Speech by Alexander Stephens and try to argue differently.
JC is PJFan with better Google skills.
this spin earned you another spin, spin again!
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