OZARK -Netflix Show

Gern Blansten

The kid laundering money is a stretch for sure....but the rest is semi-explainable in my opinion

Cliffy6745

This feels much more Sons Of Anarchy to me than Breaking Bad.  Yes, Breaking Bad was a stretch, but EVERYTHING in this is a huge stretch at this point.

Did we forget how a cop goes missing and the FBI fails to mention it to the only cartel connected person in a small town?

MayDay10

The Juggler said:

Gern Blansten said:

I don't get that but to each their own.....I think the series is great.

Breaking Bad was a stretch as well but still a great show.

The whole Breaking Bad show as a huge stretch. Still one of the best ever.

I've always felt Ozark is a stretch too, they're just ramping things up a couple notches as they inch towards the end. Great television .

Sure, Breaking Bad (and Saul) was a stretch... but still the characters acted as you would expect them to reasonably act, and they insulated everything well... like how Fring had his public persona and dealing with the DEA as a friend and all that.  It was very believable he could operate under their noses.  It was believable that the Hank would never come close to considering his brother in law was heisenberg.  The worst part was probably the plane crash at the end of Season 2.  

This season of Ozark?  JC.  People are just dying and disappearing everywhere and nobody cares or can connect them to a few people. Especially the Sheriff.  Wendy giving the FBI the threat with a really mean face to get her way was hilarious.  The FBI agent going rogue with a huge team and arresting the cartel leader?  
Why would Javier cut a deal with the FBI with no prior contact with them?  They build Omar up to get to that point over the past few seasons, but this seemed lazy, and again, unreasonable.  Javier should have/would have just killed Marty in 2 seconds like he does everybody else.

Its tough.  I was totally on board.  Even loved the first episode this season... but by the time I got through the 7th I was laughing. 
The fact that the Byrds are in the middle of this and manipulating all these power brokers with some sort of un-seen leverage has past the point of absurdity.

The Juggler

MayDay10 said:

The Juggler said:

Gern Blansten said:

I don't get that but to each their own.....I think the series is great.

Breaking Bad was a stretch as well but still a great show.

The whole Breaking Bad show as a huge stretch. Still one of the best ever.

I've always felt Ozark is a stretch too, they're just ramping things up a couple notches as they inch towards the end. Great television .

Sure, Breaking Bad (and Saul) was a stretch... but still the characters acted as you would expect them to reasonably act, and they insulated everything well... like how Fring had his public persona and dealing with the DEA as a friend and all that.  It was very believable he could operate under their noses.  It was believable that the Hank would never come close to considering his brother in law was heisenberg.  The worst part was probably the plane crash at the end of Season 2.  

This season of Ozark?  JC.  People are just dying and disappearing everywhere and nobody cares or can connect them to a few people. Especially the Sheriff.  Wendy giving the FBI the threat with a really mean face to get her way was hilarious.  The FBI agent going rogue with a huge team and arresting the cartel leader?  
Why would Javier cut a deal with the FBI with no prior contact with them?  They build Omar up to get to that point over the past few seasons, but this seemed lazy, and again, unreasonable.  Javier should have/would have just killed Marty in 2 seconds like he does everybody else.

Its tough.  I was totally on board.  Even loved the first episode this season... but by the time I got through the 7th I was laughing. 
The fact that the Byrds are in the middle of this and manipulating all these power brokers with some sort of un-seen leverage has past the point of absurdity.

I don't know man. I was laughing at the Breaking Bad premise, while still enjoying the show, from start to finish. We're supposed to believe a middle aged science teacher turned into the biggest, baddest meth dealer in the country overnight? Meanwhile his brother in law DEA agent is winning awards, climbing the ladder at the FBI and garnering all kinds of praise yet doesn't catch on to Walt until the very end? Lol. Lots of shows are like this. 

This is why nothing has topped The Wire as the number 1 show of all time yet. 

Gern Blansten

MayDay10 said:

The Juggler said:

Gern Blansten said:

I don't get that but to each their own.....I think the series is great.

Breaking Bad was a stretch as well but still a great show.

The whole Breaking Bad show as a huge stretch. Still one of the best ever.

I've always felt Ozark is a stretch too, they're just ramping things up a couple notches as they inch towards the end. Great television .

Sure, Breaking Bad (and Saul) was a stretch... but still the characters acted as you would expect them to reasonably act, and they insulated everything well... like how Fring had his public persona and dealing with the DEA as a friend and all that.  It was very believable he could operate under their noses.  It was believable that the Hank would never come close to considering his brother in law was heisenberg.  The worst part was probably the plane crash at the end of Season 2.  

This season of Ozark?  JC.  People are just dying and disappearing everywhere and nobody cares or can connect them to a few people. Especially the Sheriff.  Wendy giving the FBI the threat with a really mean face to get her way was hilarious.  The FBI agent going rogue with a huge team and arresting the cartel leader?  
Why would Javier cut a deal with the FBI with no prior contact with them?  They build Omar up to get to that point over the past few seasons, but this seemed lazy, and again, unreasonable.  Javier should have/would have just killed Marty in 2 seconds like he does everybody else.

Its tough.  I was totally on board.  Even loved the first episode this season... but by the time I got through the 7th I was laughing. 
The fact that the Byrds are in the middle of this and manipulating all these power brokers with some sort of un-seen leverage has past the point of absurdity.

ok but these events have just occurred....it's not like each episode is weeks down the road. 

bootlegger10

I have a friend who can't help but analyze movies as they go and he enjoys the movies less because of it.  I view it almost like a curse.  We are escaping reality with tv and movies, not trying to get more of it.

MayDay10

bootlegger10 said:

I have a friend who can't help but analyze movies as they go and he enjoys the movies less because of it.  I view it almost like a curse.  We are escaping reality with tv and movies, not trying to get more of it.

Im usually the last person to do that stuff, trust me.  

HughFreakingDillon

I kind of try to view the events in the context of the entire show. If the show's premise is and of itself kind of absurd, then that's the starting point. If the events in the show are absurd in our world but could happen within the absurd normalcy of the show's universe, I think it works. 

there's a reason why things that happen in real life that are unbelievable are often described as "...like a plot from a movie/tv show..."

MayDay10

HughFreakingDillon said:

I kind of try to view the events in the context of the entire show. If the show's premise is and of itself kind of absurd, then that's the starting point. If the events in the show are absurd in our world but could happen within the absurd normalcy of the show's universe, I think it works. 

there's a reason why things that happen in real life that are unbelievable are often described as "...like a plot from a movie/tv show..."

This is a great point!  I think maybe this is why it might bother me in this case?  Ozark was a pretty well put together and somewhat plausible show, or at least you can set a few things aside that move the plot along.  Last season when the FBI was in the casino, you felt on pins and needles because the smallest slip-up would have blown the tower of cards down.  

But this season it seems to have devolved into a sloppy mess, where the Byrds seem to have some sort of non-leveraged hold over the most powerful people/organizations and dragging them all down, while the actual power-brokers are seemingly unable to just cut the Byrds out, which would probably make everyone's problems go away.

Gern Blansten

I always felt that way about the Brady Bunch. Totally not believable how the boys weren't banging the girls and Mike wasn't banging Alice.

hedonist

Gern Blansten said:

I always felt that way about the Brady Bunch. Totally not believable how the boys weren't banging the girls and Mike wasn't banging Alice.

Had to laugh at this. 

Gern Blansten

hedonist said:

Gern Blansten said:

I always felt that way about the Brady Bunch. Totally not believable how the boys weren't banging the girls and Mike wasn't banging Alice.

Had to laugh at this. 

holy shit we can destroy every show by pointing out every absurdity

HughFreakingDillon

Gern Blansten said:

hedonist said:

Gern Blansten said:

I always felt that way about the Brady Bunch. Totally not believable how the boys weren't banging the girls and Mike wasn't banging Alice.

Had to laugh at this. 

holy shit we can destroy every show by pointing out every absurdity

you're going pretty hard on this point. you never watched a show and went "come ON!"?  I have for sure. 

Gern Blansten

HughFreakingDillon said:

Gern Blansten said:

hedonist said:

Gern Blansten said:

I always felt that way about the Brady Bunch. Totally not believable how the boys weren't banging the girls and Mike wasn't banging Alice.

Had to laugh at this. 

holy shit we can destroy every show by pointing out every absurdity

you're going pretty hard on this point. you never watched a show and went "come ON!"?  I have for sure. 

yes....Brady Bunch

Gern Blansten

sure I have...but they were laughable shows.  I don't think Ozark is laughable.

Plus...we haven't seen the wrap up. Maybe it will all make sense (or maybe not)

Purple Fairy Tree

We've started watching this as I didn't know what else to watch and figured it must be ok if there's a whole thread dedicated to it. We've seen episode 1 and it shows how Breaking Bad has set the threshold.

tbergs

Good season. Had me hooked, but I agree, the plot is out of control at this point. Garner deserves an Emmy for her acting. She's been phenomenal. Not so great, the invincible Byrds. At least in previous seasons you thought there was a chance something could happen to them. Not this season. And the Darlene angle was just a waste. I was waiting for that ending for the entire season. Navarro went from ruthless to I'll keep giving you chances. They tried to build up to that, but I don't think they ever really sold his dramatic change. The only part I felt like was being close to reality was the FBI not bowing to every whim...until the last 10 minutes. Still, I think that is plausible if they wanted an in and really have no skin in the game if he doesn't cooperate.

Enjoyed it a lot though and looked forward to the finale.

Bateman's deadpan sarcasm for the win. No matter what role he plays, they're all a version of Michael Bluth.

HughFreakingDillon

tbergs said:

Good season. Had me hooked, but I agree, the plot is out of control at this point. Garner deserves an Emmy for her acting. She's been phenomenal. Not so great, the invincible Byrds. At least in previous seasons you thought there was a chance something could happen to them. Not this season. And the Darlene angle was just a waste. I was waiting for that ending for the entire season. Navarro went from ruthless to I'll keep giving you chances. They tried to build up to that, but I don't think they ever really sold his dramatic change. The only part I felt like was being close to reality was the FBI not bowing to every whim...until the last 10 minutes. Still, I think that is plausible if they wanted an in and really have no skin in the game if he doesn't cooperate.

Enjoyed it a lot though and looked forward to the finale.

Bateman's deadpan sarcasm for the win. No matter what role he plays, they're all a version of Michael Bluth.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, Jason Bateman has gotten really famous on playing the same character over and over and over again. Different people...all the exact same delivery. But somehow it works. 

eeriepadave

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5BE2jbszzM

hedonist

I have so dropped the ball on this. I think I’m only on the third episode! Might binge a bit this weekend.