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  • RYME
    RYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    Mocking Christians has been going on since the beginning of time as well.  They were mocking Christ Himself while he was on His way to the cross and while He was on the cross.
    What you don't realize is that God's prophecies are coming to pass almost on a daily basis just as they were written in the Bible.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    edited October 2018
    RYME said:
    Mocking Christians has been going on since the beginning of time as well.  They were mocking Christ Himself while he was on His way to the cross and while He was on the cross.
    What you don't realize is that God's prophecies are coming to pass almost on a daily basis just as they were written in the Bible.

    I think that your timeline is a bit off, if you think that Christians have been mocked since "the beginning of time".

    And Christians have done a fair amount of mocking of other faiths as well. 
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    edited October 2018
    RYME said:
    Mocking Christians has been going on since the beginning of time as well.  They were mocking Christ Himself while he was on His way to the cross and while He was on the cross.
    What you don't realize is that God's prophecies are coming to pass almost on a daily basis just as they were written in the Bible.
    People have been saying exactly this for a thousand years, usually followed by, "you shall see".

    Hail, hail...Bopp?
    Post edited by rgambs on
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  • Annafalk
    Annafalk Sweden Posts: 4,004
    Why can't we just respect each others opinions? This is a thread called The Concept of God isn't it? Why even take the time to enter this thread, if you only want to criticize what another person believes in? 
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Annafalk said:
    Why can't we just respect each others opinions? This is a thread called The Concept of God isn't it? Why even take the time to enter this thread, if you only want to criticize what another person believes in? 
    Why would an opinion merit respect just because someone holds it?
    Do you respect the opinions of white supremacists? 
    Do you respect the opinions of men who believe women should be beaten into submission and stripped of autonomy?
    Bullshit is bullshit and it needs to be called out as bullshit.

    To your last question...
    Because we want the world to move forward.
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  • rustneversleeps
    rustneversleeps The Motel of Lost Companions Posts: 2,209
    rgambs said:
    Annafalk said:
    Why can't we just respect each others opinions? This is a thread called The Concept of God isn't it? Why even take the time to enter this thread, if you only want to criticize what another person believes in? 
    Why would an opinion merit respect just because someone holds it?
    Do you respect the opinions of white supremacists? 
    Do you respect the opinions of men who believe women should be beaten into submission and stripped of autonomy?
    Bullshit is bullshit and it needs to be called out as bullshit.

    To your last question...
    Because we want the world to move forward.
    can you please pass the grey poupon?
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    rustneversleeps said:
    rgambs said:
    Annafalk said:
    Why can't we just respect each others opinions? This is a thread called The Concept of God isn't it? Why even take the time to enter this thread, if you only want to criticize what another person believes in? 
    Why would an opinion merit respect just because someone holds it?
    Do you respect the opinions of white supremacists? 
    Do you respect the opinions of men who believe women should be beaten into submission and stripped of autonomy?
    Bullshit is bullshit and it needs to be called out as bullshit.

    To your last question...
    Because we want the world to move forward.
    can you please pass the grey poupon?
    You need some musturd fer yer biskits?
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • Annafalk
    Annafalk Sweden Posts: 4,004
    edited October 2018
    rgambs said:
    Annafalk said:
    Why can't we just respect each others opinions? This is a thread called The Concept of God isn't it? Why even take the time to enter this thread, if you only want to criticize what another person believes in? 
    Why would an opinion merit respect just because someone holds it?
    Do you respect the opinions of white supremacists? 
    Do you respect the opinions of men who believe women should be beaten into submission and stripped of autonomy?
    Bullshit is bullshit and it needs to be called out as bullshit.

    To your last question...
    Because we want the world to move forward.
    So you are saying only the way you're thinking is the right way. If everyone was thinking like you there would be a perfect world? There is no room for people who thinks differently than you?
    Off course shouldn't opinions that are hurtful to anyone be respected. 
    Post edited by Annafalk on
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    I don't like when religion and /or god(s) are used as insurance or a bargaining chip of sorts.  

    "Be a good person, live by certain scribes -- some ridiculous ones at that -- and glory awaits" - to paraphrase.

    How about while being alive, here, just being a decent person for its own sake?  Why must a reward of sorts be offered for what should be basic humaneness and common sense?

    Life is unforgiving.  If faith is what gets one through, so be it; it's not for me to say what's best for others.  "Vice versa" is part of the deal.

    That said, keep off my lawn!  - and tend to your own garden.
  • RYME
    RYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    No they just want to verbally beat Christians into submission tell us that we believe in a bunch of fairy tales.  I have not criticized or mocked anyone here. I have simply told you what I believe.  I started by answering a question that Hugh Dillon posted a week or so ago.  And the majority of you do not like it. I know that I am wasting my time here, but this thread is not about white supremacy or beating women into submission.  God is very much against white supremacy and beating women into submission that is for sure.
    This Thread is called The Concept of God. How can you have a conversation here that doesn't involve God? God is in the subject of this thread.

  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Annafalk said:
    rgambs said:
    Annafalk said:
    Why can't we just respect each others opinions? This is a thread called The Concept of God isn't it? Why even take the time to enter this thread, if you only want to criticize what another person believes in? 
    Why would an opinion merit respect just because someone holds it?
    Do you respect the opinions of white supremacists? 
    Do you respect the opinions of men who believe women should be beaten into submission and stripped of autonomy?
    Bullshit is bullshit and it needs to be called out as bullshit.

    To your last question...
    Because we want the world to move forward.
    So you are saying only the way you're thinking is the right way. If everyone was thinking like you there would be a perfect world? There is no room for people who thinks differently than you?
    Off course shouldn't opinions that are hurtful to anyone be respected. 
    I didn't say any of those things, and there is plenty of room to disagree within the bounds of reality and rational thought.
    Even subtracting the supernatural, the Judaic legends are ridiculous.  
    God can't be perfect and vain.
    God can't be loving and vengeful.
    God can't be omnipotent and have his plans spoiled by the devil.
    Most importantly, God can't have a plan for everything and abdicate responsibility for the horrific suffering of mankind.

    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    My very simple take on "god" is this:  Humans invented God/the gods, not the other way around.
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  • Annafalk
    Annafalk Sweden Posts: 4,004
    rgambs said:
    Annafalk said:
    rgambs said:
    Annafalk said:
    Why can't we just respect each others opinions? This is a thread called The Concept of God isn't it? Why even take the time to enter this thread, if you only want to criticize what another person believes in? 
    Why would an opinion merit respect just because someone holds it?
    Do you respect the opinions of white supremacists? 
    Do you respect the opinions of men who believe women should be beaten into submission and stripped of autonomy?
    Bullshit is bullshit and it needs to be called out as bullshit.

    To your last question...
    Because we want the world to move forward.
    So you are saying only the way you're thinking is the right way. If everyone was thinking like you there would be a perfect world? There is no room for people who thinks differently than you?
    Off course shouldn't opinions that are hurtful to anyone be respected. 
    I didn't say any of those things, and there is plenty of room to disagree within the bounds of reality and rational thought.
    Even subtracting the supernatural, the Judaic legends are ridiculous.  
    God can't be perfect and vain.
    God can't be loving and vengeful.
    God can't be omnipotent and have his plans spoiled by the devil.
    Most importantly, God can't have a plan for everything and abdicate responsibility for the horrific suffering of mankind.

    How do you know this is true? 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,652
    I can understand how people under extreme duress can turn to God.  Last week when I was in the throws of extreme torturous migraine vertigo I was wishing to God there was a god who would save me.  A few days later while in recovery, I gave thanks to the Unknown Mystery of the universe for being released from the worst of the pain and misery. I don't know about God, but I do thank the energy in the universe for coming around on the good side of things when that happens. My final thought was that, to me, "God" is not some big guy with a beard in the sky, but rather is a word one might use to describe the energy that flows through the universe in strange ways we cannot fully understand.  I don't need to know more than that, I just accept it.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • RYME
    RYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    brianlux said:
    I can understand how people under extreme duress can turn to God.  Last week when I was in the throws of extreme torturous migraine vertigo I was wishing to God there was a god who would save me.  A few days later while in recovery, I gave thanks to the Unknown Mystery of the universe for being released from the worst of the pain and misery. I don't know about God, but I do thank the energy in the universe for coming around on the good side of things when that happens. My final thought was that, to me, "God" is not some big guy with a beard in the sky, but rather is a word one might use to describe the energy that flows through the universe in strange ways we cannot fully understand.  I don't need to know more than that, I just accept it.
    I'm sorry that you were in so much pain and discomfort. I'm glad that you're doing better sir.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Annafalk said:
    rgambs said:
    Annafalk said:
    rgambs said:
    Annafalk said:
    Why can't we just respect each others opinions? This is a thread called The Concept of God isn't it? Why even take the time to enter this thread, if you only want to criticize what another person believes in? 
    Why would an opinion merit respect just because someone holds it?
    Do you respect the opinions of white supremacists? 
    Do you respect the opinions of men who believe women should be beaten into submission and stripped of autonomy?
    Bullshit is bullshit and it needs to be called out as bullshit.

    To your last question...
    Because we want the world to move forward.
    So you are saying only the way you're thinking is the right way. If everyone was thinking like you there would be a perfect world? There is no room for people who thinks differently than you?
    Off course shouldn't opinions that are hurtful to anyone be respected. 
    I didn't say any of those things, and there is plenty of room to disagree within the bounds of reality and rational thought.
    Even subtracting the supernatural, the Judaic legends are ridiculous.  
    God can't be perfect and vain.
    God can't be loving and vengeful.
    God can't be omnipotent and have his plans spoiled by the devil.
    Most importantly, God can't have a plan for everything and abdicate responsibility for the horrific suffering of mankind.

    How do you know this is true? 
    Basic logic.  Those examples are all contradictory.  Something perfect can't have flaws, vanity is a flaw, etc.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • Annafalk
    Annafalk Sweden Posts: 4,004
    rgambs said:
    Annafalk said:
    rgambs said:
    Annafalk said:
    rgambs said:
    Annafalk said:
    Why can't we just respect each others opinions? This is a thread called The Concept of God isn't it? Why even take the time to enter this thread, if you only want to criticize what another person believes in? 
    Why would an opinion merit respect just because someone holds it?
    Do you respect the opinions of white supremacists? 
    Do you respect the opinions of men who believe women should be beaten into submission and stripped of autonomy?
    Bullshit is bullshit and it needs to be called out as bullshit.

    To your last question...
    Because we want the world to move forward.
    So you are saying only the way you're thinking is the right way. If everyone was thinking like you there would be a perfect world? There is no room for people who thinks differently than you?
    Off course shouldn't opinions that are hurtful to anyone be respected. 
    I didn't say any of those things, and there is plenty of room to disagree within the bounds of reality and rational thought.
    Even subtracting the supernatural, the Judaic legends are ridiculous.  
    God can't be perfect and vain.
    God can't be loving and vengeful.
    God can't be omnipotent and have his plans spoiled by the devil.
    Most importantly, God can't have a plan for everything and abdicate responsibility for the horrific suffering of mankind.

    How do you know this is true? 
    Basic logic.  Those examples are all contradictory.  Something perfect can't have flaws, vanity is a flaw, etc.
    So God has been described in a contradictory way? It isn't any proof he wouldn't exist.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Annafalk said:
    rgambs said:
    Annafalk said:
    rgambs said:
    Annafalk said:
    rgambs said:
    Annafalk said:
    Why can't we just respect each others opinions? This is a thread called The Concept of God isn't it? Why even take the time to enter this thread, if you only want to criticize what another person believes in? 
    Why would an opinion merit respect just because someone holds it?
    Do you respect the opinions of white supremacists? 
    Do you respect the opinions of men who believe women should be beaten into submission and stripped of autonomy?
    Bullshit is bullshit and it needs to be called out as bullshit.

    To your last question...
    Because we want the world to move forward.
    So you are saying only the way you're thinking is the right way. If everyone was thinking like you there would be a perfect world? There is no room for people who thinks differently than you?
    Off course shouldn't opinions that are hurtful to anyone be respected. 
    I didn't say any of those things, and there is plenty of room to disagree within the bounds of reality and rational thought.
    Even subtracting the supernatural, the Judaic legends are ridiculous.  
    God can't be perfect and vain.
    God can't be loving and vengeful.
    God can't be omnipotent and have his plans spoiled by the devil.
    Most importantly, God can't have a plan for everything and abdicate responsibility for the horrific suffering of mankind.

    How do you know this is true? 
    Basic logic.  Those examples are all contradictory.  Something perfect can't have flaws, vanity is a flaw, etc.
    So God has been described in a contradictory way? It isn't any proof he wouldn't exist.
    Yes, God has been described in a completely contradictory way by the only evidence that supports His existence.
    It is proof that He surely doesn't exist as we've been told.  
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • Annafalk
    Annafalk Sweden Posts: 4,004
    rgambs said:
    Annafalk said:
    rgambs said:
    Annafalk said:
    rgambs said:
    Annafalk said:
    rgambs said:
    Annafalk said:
    Why can't we just respect each others opinions? This is a thread called The Concept of God isn't it? Why even take the time to enter this thread, if you only want to criticize what another person believes in? 
    Why would an opinion merit respect just because someone holds it?
    Do you respect the opinions of white supremacists? 
    Do you respect the opinions of men who believe women should be beaten into submission and stripped of autonomy?
    Bullshit is bullshit and it needs to be called out as bullshit.

    To your last question...
    Because we want the world to move forward.
    So you are saying only the way you're thinking is the right way. If everyone was thinking like you there would be a perfect world? There is no room for people who thinks differently than you?
    Off course shouldn't opinions that are hurtful to anyone be respected. 
    I didn't say any of those things, and there is plenty of room to disagree within the bounds of reality and rational thought.
    Even subtracting the supernatural, the Judaic legends are ridiculous.  
    God can't be perfect and vain.
    God can't be loving and vengeful.
    God can't be omnipotent and have his plans spoiled by the devil.
    Most importantly, God can't have a plan for everything and abdicate responsibility for the horrific suffering of mankind.

    How do you know this is true? 
    Basic logic.  Those examples are all contradictory.  Something perfect can't have flaws, vanity is a flaw, etc.
    So God has been described in a contradictory way? It isn't any proof he wouldn't exist.
    Yes, God has been described in a completely contradictory way by the only evidence that supports His existence.
    It is proof that He surely doesn't exist as we've been told.  
    I don't know maybe you can ask him.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Annafalk said:
    rgambs said:
    Annafalk said:
    rgambs said:
    Annafalk said:
    rgambs said:
    Annafalk said:
    rgambs said:
    Annafalk said:
    Why can't we just respect each others opinions? This is a thread called The Concept of God isn't it? Why even take the time to enter this thread, if you only want to criticize what another person believes in? 
    Why would an opinion merit respect just because someone holds it?
    Do you respect the opinions of white supremacists? 
    Do you respect the opinions of men who believe women should be beaten into submission and stripped of autonomy?
    Bullshit is bullshit and it needs to be called out as bullshit.

    To your last question...
    Because we want the world to move forward.
    So you are saying only the way you're thinking is the right way. If everyone was thinking like you there would be a perfect world? There is no room for people who thinks differently than you?
    Off course shouldn't opinions that are hurtful to anyone be respected. 
    I didn't say any of those things, and there is plenty of room to disagree within the bounds of reality and rational thought.
    Even subtracting the supernatural, the Judaic legends are ridiculous.  
    God can't be perfect and vain.
    God can't be loving and vengeful.
    God can't be omnipotent and have his plans spoiled by the devil.
    Most importantly, God can't have a plan for everything and abdicate responsibility for the horrific suffering of mankind.

    How do you know this is true? 
    Basic logic.  Those examples are all contradictory.  Something perfect can't have flaws, vanity is a flaw, etc.
    So God has been described in a contradictory way? It isn't any proof he wouldn't exist.
    Yes, God has been described in a completely contradictory way by the only evidence that supports His existence.
    It is proof that He surely doesn't exist as we've been told.  
    I don't know maybe you can ask him.
    He's notoriously silent.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?

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