The Concept of God

rgambs

LongestRoad said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

LongestRoad said:

BlackCircle said:

God exists in the sense that you have the mental capacity to create God or "God's" or imaginary sea creatures.

There is a voice inside your head that is not your present tangible self.  The voice inside your mind is simply your thoughts.  It can be turned off and therefore is not who you are.  

Like people who suffer with multiple personality disorder or schizophrenia, those voices can often create conflict inside the individual.

However, if those voices were shut off the person would still exist.  You and I would still exist if the voice inside out mind were silent.  

God exist inside our mind as a creation of our imagination in order to provide a simple explanation to something we once could not explain as pre-histiric or ancient man.

God has been inserted into our subconcious by the telling and retelling of God stories.

Therefore, God exists only in the sense that we have created him. 

I've prayed to God and my prayers have been answered. The impossible has been answered. I know God exists. God created us. 

All of them?

Or just random ones? Do you think those random prayers might have been answered through your own (or someone else's efforts)? Do you think maybe you are crediting God when credit lies elsewhere?

 If it's God's will it will be answered. God has answered my prayers but if I don't take the answer for invalid and/or stupid misconseptions or being afraid to accept the answer then it's my fault.  

So doesn't it make you uncomfortable that God is answering your prayers (many of which are comparatively petty, I'm sure) while little children are raped and tortured and starved to death?

Thirty Bills Unpaid

rgambs said:

LongestRoad said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

LongestRoad said:

BlackCircle said:

God exists in the sense that you have the mental capacity to create God or "God's" or imaginary sea creatures.

There is a voice inside your head that is not your present tangible self.  The voice inside your mind is simply your thoughts.  It can be turned off and therefore is not who you are.  

Like people who suffer with multiple personality disorder or schizophrenia, those voices can often create conflict inside the individual.

However, if those voices were shut off the person would still exist.  You and I would still exist if the voice inside out mind were silent.  

God exist inside our mind as a creation of our imagination in order to provide a simple explanation to something we once could not explain as pre-histiric or ancient man.

God has been inserted into our subconcious by the telling and retelling of God stories.

Therefore, God exists only in the sense that we have created him. 

I've prayed to God and my prayers have been answered. The impossible has been answered. I know God exists. God created us. 

All of them?

Or just random ones? Do you think those random prayers might have been answered through your own (or someone else's efforts)? Do you think maybe you are crediting God when credit lies elsewhere?

 If it's God's will it will be answered. God has answered my prayers but if I don't take the answer for invalid and/or stupid misconseptions or being afraid to accept the answer then it's my fault.  

So doesn't it make you uncomfortable that God is answering your prayers (many of which are comparatively petty, I'm sure) while little children are raped and tortured and starved to death?

God is sometimes unorganized as he multi-tasks like no other entity in the universe.

For example, sometimes he's busy answering the "Oh God... please let me make my flight" prayer... or listening to the "Dear God... please make sure my husband makes it home safely on his drive"... but while he's doing that, he forgets about the "Dear God... please let me find something to eat or drink today" prayer that the starving child prays for.

We have to forgive him though: with the volume of work demanded by the billions of followers expecting instant access, he's going to mess up every now and then.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

God also gets put into challenging situations.

For example, Father F**kface prays, "Father. Forgive me. Aaaaagain. Please grant me time and patience as I work through my insatiable appetite for children. I know it's wrong, but I really enjoy myself." 

While at the same time...

Little Johnny prays, "Dear God. Please don't let Father F**kface touch me any more."

See what I mean? I mean... I realize more often than not he answers the prayers of Father F**kface, but handling that troubling dilemma can't be easy for the big guy.

brianlux

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

rgambs said:

LongestRoad said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

LongestRoad said:

BlackCircle said:

God exists in the sense that you have the mental capacity to create God or "God's" or imaginary sea creatures.

There is a voice inside your head that is not your present tangible self.  The voice inside your mind is simply your thoughts.  It can be turned off and therefore is not who you are.  

Like people who suffer with multiple personality disorder or schizophrenia, those voices can often create conflict inside the individual.

However, if those voices were shut off the person would still exist.  You and I would still exist if the voice inside out mind were silent.  

God exist inside our mind as a creation of our imagination in order to provide a simple explanation to something we once could not explain as pre-histiric or ancient man.

God has been inserted into our subconcious by the telling and retelling of God stories.

Therefore, God exists only in the sense that we have created him. 

I've prayed to God and my prayers have been answered. The impossible has been answered. I know God exists. God created us. 

All of them?

Or just random ones? Do you think those random prayers might have been answered through your own (or someone else's efforts)? Do you think maybe you are crediting God when credit lies elsewhere?

 If it's God's will it will be answered. God has answered my prayers but if I don't take the answer for invalid and/or stupid misconseptions or being afraid to accept the answer then it's my fault.  

So doesn't it make you uncomfortable that God is answering your prayers (many of which are comparatively petty, I'm sure) while little children are raped and tortured and starved to death?

God is sometimes unorganized as he multi-tasks like no other entity in the universe.

For example, sometimes he's busy answering the "Oh God... please let me make my flight" prayer... or listening to the "Dear God... please make sure my husband makes it home safely on his drive"... but while he's doing that, he forgets about the "Dear God... please let me find something to eat or drink today" prayer that the starving child prays for.

We have to forgive him though: with the volume of work demanded by the billions of followers expecting instant access, he's going to mess up every now and then.

I think you're on to something here, Thirty.  God is always referred to as "Him".  Well, as we all know, women are far better at multi tasking than men, soooooooo.........

rgambs

Some real banger posts there ThirtyBills!  
Your oft-maligned (by me) sarcasm is dead-on, straight-up, ass-whoopin, hyphen-worthy, goodness!

Thirty Bills Unpaid

rgambs said:

Some real banger posts there ThirtyBills!  
Your oft-maligned (by me) sarcasm is dead-on, straight-up, ass-whoopin, hyphen-worthy, goodness!

Lol

I do my damndest, RG! Good to be on the same side more often than not these days.

For the record, I was trying to make a point with all that gibberish. I'm thinking it got lost in the delivery. Oh well.

LongestRoad

HughFreakingDillon said:

LongestRoad said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

LongestRoad said:

BlackCircle said:

God exists in the sense that you have the mental capacity to create God or "God's" or imaginary sea creatures.

There is a voice inside your head that is not your present tangible self.  The voice inside your mind is simply your thoughts.  It can be turned off and therefore is not who you are.  

Like people who suffer with multiple personality disorder or schizophrenia, those voices can often create conflict inside the individual.

However, if those voices were shut off the person would still exist.  You and I would still exist if the voice inside out mind were silent.  

God exist inside our mind as a creation of our imagination in order to provide a simple explanation to something we once could not explain as pre-histiric or ancient man.

God has been inserted into our subconcious by the telling and retelling of God stories.

Therefore, God exists only in the sense that we have created him. 

I've prayed to God and my prayers have been answered. The impossible has been answered. I know God exists. God created us. 

All of them?

Or just random ones? Do you think those random prayers might have been answered through your own (or someone else's efforts)? Do you think maybe you are crediting God when credit lies elsewhere?

 If it's God's will it will be answered. God has answered my prayers but if I don't take the answer for invalid and/or stupid misconseptions or being afraid to accept the answer then it's my fault.  

so that's not really prayers being answered in how I've always understood it. from what you are saying here, he didn't choose to reward you with your request. it was a happy accident he wanted to give what you wanted. kind of like a lottery ticket. 

Not even close there aren't accidents with God. And when people pray it's not necessarily for themselves you understand that don't you. You're so funny. That was good. lol. 

rgambs

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

rgambs said:

Some real banger posts there ThirtyBills!  
Your oft-maligned (by me) sarcasm is dead-on, straight-up, ass-whoopin, hyphen-worthy, goodness!

Lol

I do my damndest, RG! Good to be on the same side more often than not these days.

For the record, I was trying to make a point with all that gibberish. I'm thinking it got lost in the delivery. Oh well.

Not lost at all, perfectly delivered.

rgambs

LongestRoad said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

LongestRoad said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

LongestRoad said:

BlackCircle said:

God exists in the sense that you have the mental capacity to create God or "God's" or imaginary sea creatures.

There is a voice inside your head that is not your present tangible self.  The voice inside your mind is simply your thoughts.  It can be turned off and therefore is not who you are.  

Like people who suffer with multiple personality disorder or schizophrenia, those voices can often create conflict inside the individual.

However, if those voices were shut off the person would still exist.  You and I would still exist if the voice inside out mind were silent.  

God exist inside our mind as a creation of our imagination in order to provide a simple explanation to something we once could not explain as pre-histiric or ancient man.

God has been inserted into our subconcious by the telling and retelling of God stories.

Therefore, God exists only in the sense that we have created him. 

I've prayed to God and my prayers have been answered. The impossible has been answered. I know God exists. God created us. 

All of them?

Or just random ones? Do you think those random prayers might have been answered through your own (or someone else's efforts)? Do you think maybe you are crediting God when credit lies elsewhere?

 If it's God's will it will be answered. God has answered my prayers but if I don't take the answer for invalid and/or stupid misconseptions or being afraid to accept the answer then it's my fault.  

so that's not really prayers being answered in how I've always understood it. from what you are saying here, he didn't choose to reward you with your request. it was a happy accident he wanted to give what you wanted. kind of like a lottery ticket. 

Not even close there aren't accidents with God. And when people pray it's not necessarily for themselves you understand that don't you. You're so funny. That was good. lol. 

No accidents with God, so the kids being raped, tortured, and starved...that's all on purpose?  You really go to sleep at night comfortable with the idea that the Holocaust was just "part of the plan"?

Smellyman

The easily manipulated minds of the right

evsgjamm

Gods don't exist. They are figments of our imagination. Whales don't believe in Gods. Sharks don't believe in them either. They (the whales and sharks) fuck, they eat, they get killed by humans (most of whom probably believe in some fucking gods.) Gods are made up by once-alive humans. It is that fucking straight forward. Y'all god-believers are fucking braintwizzlered; it's also that god-damned simple. The word "god" to me is a fucking metaphor and that's how I use it. "Thank GOD" means "PHEW! Glad that happened!" and "Dear Heavens" means "Oh Boy.." and "Jesus Fucking Christ" means "For fuck sakes."  "OH God" means "Oh no" - You're not going somewhere other than into the ground when you die. Ya won't talk to your dead relatives. You won't be in God's presence or some shit - god dammit, this sucks. I'm all cranked up. Shouldn't have given up drinking today. I'm out of this god-forsaken thread. You see?? it's a fucking figure of speech.. not a real fucking figure. fuck! God damn. Jesus. This is bullshit. 
I love you. 
I'm sorry. 
fuckin hell. God damn got the best of me. Drives me mental though.
It sucks ass that the brainwashing continues. Fuckin fuck. Jim Jeffries is the shit.

Byeeeeeeee 

brianlux

evsgjamm said:

Gods don't exist. They are figments of our imagination. Whales don't believe in Gods. Sharks don't believe in them either. They (the whales and sharks) fuck, they eat, they get killed by humans (most of whom probably believe in some fucking gods.) Gods are made up by once-alive humans. It is that fucking straight forward. Y'all god-believers are fucking braintwizzlered; it's also that god-damned simple. The word "god" to me is a fucking metaphor and that's how I use it. "Thank GOD" means "PHEW! Glad that happened!" and "Dear Heavens" means "Oh Boy.." and "Jesus Fucking Christ" means "For fuck sakes."  "OH God" means "Oh no" - You're not going somewhere other than into the ground when you die. Ya won't talk to your dead relatives. You won't be in God's presence or some shit - god dammit, this sucks. I'm all cranked up. Shouldn't have given up drinking today. I'm out of this god-forsaken thread. You see?? it's a fucking figure of speech.. not a real fucking figure. fuck! God damn. Jesus. This is bullshit. 
I love you. 
I'm sorry. 
fuckin hell. God damn got the best of me. Drives me mental though.
It sucks ass that the brainwashing continues. Fuckin fuck. Jim Jeffries is the shit.

Byeeeeeeee 

You forgot one, evs-- "Jesus, Joseph and Mary" = "Whoa!  No kidding!"

I guess I don't totally mind that people believe in a god if it helps them get through the day, but I do get more than a bit exasperated when it comes to telling other people they have to believe, or else!  It also bugs me that people give their god credit for good work that is done by people working together, cooperating, being community, that sort of thing. 

Like Patti Smith says, "People have the power."

LongestRoad

rgambs said:

LongestRoad said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

LongestRoad said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

LongestRoad said:

BlackCircle said:

God exists in the sense that you have the mental capacity to create God or "God's" or imaginary sea creatures.

There is a voice inside your head that is not your present tangible self.  The voice inside your mind is simply your thoughts.  It can be turned off and therefore is not who you are.  

Like people who suffer with multiple personality disorder or schizophrenia, those voices can often create conflict inside the individual.

However, if those voices were shut off the person would still exist.  You and I would still exist if the voice inside out mind were silent.  

God exist inside our mind as a creation of our imagination in order to provide a simple explanation to something we once could not explain as pre-histiric or ancient man.

God has been inserted into our subconcious by the telling and retelling of God stories.

Therefore, God exists only in the sense that we have created him. 

I've prayed to God and my prayers have been answered. The impossible has been answered. I know God exists. God created us. 

All of them?

Or just random ones? Do you think those random prayers might have been answered through your own (or someone else's efforts)? Do you think maybe you are crediting God when credit lies elsewhere?

 If it's God's will it will be answered. God has answered my prayers but if I don't take the answer for invalid and/or stupid misconseptions or being afraid to accept the answer then it's my fault.  

so that's not really prayers being answered in how I've always understood it. from what you are saying here, he didn't choose to reward you with your request. it was a happy accident he wanted to give what you wanted. kind of like a lottery ticket. 

Not even close there aren't accidents with God. And when people pray it's not necessarily for themselves you understand that don't you. You're so funny. That was good. lol. 

No accidents with God, so the kids being raped, tortured, and starved...that's all on purpose?  You really go to sleep at night comfortable with the idea that the Holocaust was just "part of the plan"?

That's not God.  Evil doesn't come from God. Love and justice. 

LongestRoad

brianlux said:

evsgjamm said:

Gods don't exist. They are figments of our imagination. Whales don't believe in Gods. Sharks don't believe in them either. They (the whales and sharks) fuck, they eat, they get killed by humans (most of whom probably believe in some fucking gods.) Gods are made up by once-alive humans. It is that fucking straight forward. Y'all god-believers are fucking braintwizzlered; it's also that god-damned simple. The word "god" to me is a fucking metaphor and that's how I use it. "Thank GOD" means "PHEW! Glad that happened!" and "Dear Heavens" means "Oh Boy.." and "Jesus Fucking Christ" means "For fuck sakes."  "OH God" means "Oh no" - You're not going somewhere other than into the ground when you die. Ya won't talk to your dead relatives. You won't be in God's presence or some shit - god dammit, this sucks. I'm all cranked up. Shouldn't have given up drinking today. I'm out of this god-forsaken thread. You see?? it's a fucking figure of speech.. not a real fucking figure. fuck! God damn. Jesus. This is bullshit. 
I love you. 
I'm sorry. 
fuckin hell. God damn got the best of me. Drives me mental though.
It sucks ass that the brainwashing continues. Fuckin fuck. Jim Jeffries is the shit.

Byeeeeeeee 

You forgot one, evs-- "Jesus, Joseph and Mary" = "Whoa!  No kidding!"

I guess I don't totally mind that people believe in a god if it helps them get through the day, but I do get more than a bit exasperated when it comes to telling other people they have to believe, or else!  It also bugs me that people give their god credit for good work that is done by people working together, cooperating, being community, that sort of thing. 

Like Patti Smith says, "People have the power."

God has the ultimate power. He made the people that have the power. 

Smellyman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ8hefESt7c

LongestRoad

HughFreakingDillon said:

so basically the point of this thread is not to argue about faith, or try to convince someone else that you are right or they are wrong. just, what do you think god is, if you believe a god exists?

Believe I do. 

rgambs

LongestRoad said:

rgambs said:

LongestRoad said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

LongestRoad said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

LongestRoad said:

BlackCircle said:

God exists in the sense that you have the mental capacity to create God or "God's" or imaginary sea creatures.

There is a voice inside your head that is not your present tangible self.  The voice inside your mind is simply your thoughts.  It can be turned off and therefore is not who you are.  

Like people who suffer with multiple personality disorder or schizophrenia, those voices can often create conflict inside the individual.

However, if those voices were shut off the person would still exist.  You and I would still exist if the voice inside out mind were silent.  

God exist inside our mind as a creation of our imagination in order to provide a simple explanation to something we once could not explain as pre-histiric or ancient man.

God has been inserted into our subconcious by the telling and retelling of God stories.

Therefore, God exists only in the sense that we have created him. 

I've prayed to God and my prayers have been answered. The impossible has been answered. I know God exists. God created us. 

All of them?

Or just random ones? Do you think those random prayers might have been answered through your own (or someone else's efforts)? Do you think maybe you are crediting God when credit lies elsewhere?

 If it's God's will it will be answered. God has answered my prayers but if I don't take the answer for invalid and/or stupid misconseptions or being afraid to accept the answer then it's my fault.  

so that's not really prayers being answered in how I've always understood it. from what you are saying here, he didn't choose to reward you with your request. it was a happy accident he wanted to give what you wanted. kind of like a lottery ticket. 

Not even close there aren't accidents with God. And when people pray it's not necessarily for themselves you understand that don't you. You're so funny. That was good. lol. 

No accidents with God, so the kids being raped, tortured, and starved...that's all on purpose?  You really go to sleep at night comfortable with the idea that the Holocaust was just "part of the plan"?

That's not God.  Evil doesn't come from God. Love and justice. 

This is specifically contradictory to several Bible passages and it's internally contradictory to itself.
Doesn't make a bit of sense how the Creator of everything can escape liability for everything with a simple, "that's evil, evil is outside my department, I only do good stuff and let the evil happen even though I could stop it easily"

HughFreakingDillon

LongestRoad said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

LongestRoad said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

LongestRoad said:

BlackCircle said:

God exists in the sense that you have the mental capacity to create God or "God's" or imaginary sea creatures.

There is a voice inside your head that is not your present tangible self.  The voice inside your mind is simply your thoughts.  It can be turned off and therefore is not who you are.  

Like people who suffer with multiple personality disorder or schizophrenia, those voices can often create conflict inside the individual.

However, if those voices were shut off the person would still exist.  You and I would still exist if the voice inside out mind were silent.  

God exist inside our mind as a creation of our imagination in order to provide a simple explanation to something we once could not explain as pre-histiric or ancient man.

God has been inserted into our subconcious by the telling and retelling of God stories.

Therefore, God exists only in the sense that we have created him. 

I've prayed to God and my prayers have been answered. The impossible has been answered. I know God exists. God created us. 

All of them?

Or just random ones? Do you think those random prayers might have been answered through your own (or someone else's efforts)? Do you think maybe you are crediting God when credit lies elsewhere?

 If it's God's will it will be answered. God has answered my prayers but if I don't take the answer for invalid and/or stupid misconseptions or being afraid to accept the answer then it's my fault.  

so that's not really prayers being answered in how I've always understood it. from what you are saying here, he didn't choose to reward you with your request. it was a happy accident he wanted to give what you wanted. kind of like a lottery ticket. 

Not even close there aren't accidents with God. And when people pray it's not necessarily for themselves you understand that don't you. You're so funny. That was good. lol. 

I wasn't attempting at humour.

you said "if it's god's will it will be answered". so he picks and chooses who gets what answered. that's not a loving god. especially not when someone's prayer is a new iphone and another's is clean drinking water, the former gets it, the latter dies. 

PJ_Soul

LongestRoad said:

PJ_Soul said:

LongestRoad said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

rgambs said:

This has me all fired up today.

Just on Monday I discovered my 6 year old niece being indoctrinated in Catholic culthood knows that my wife and I "don't go to church because they don't believe in Jesus and that's bad"

my brother, his wife, and their 20 year old son all think I'm going to hell with all the homosexuals and trans people. 

I bet they don't. I bet they pray for you. 

That makes no sense. If they do pray for him in that context, it's specifically because they do think he's going to hell, and they're praying for him to find salvation.

I've been told by several religious people that I'm going to hell because I'm an Atheist. They truly believe it, and many seem to have little problem with saying it to people's faces, although many others would never say such a thing. I have a born again cousin. I know she and her husband think I and most of the family are heathens, lol, but they are too nice to actually say any bullshit to our faces. They did once feel the need to quietly leave the room together and go demonstrably pray for us all in the front yard ... They either forgot we could see them doing it through the giant picture window overlooking the front yard, or they intentionally meant for us to see them doing this so that we'd get the point. Since they're not morons, my vote is for option two.

What helps you? What makes you feel better when your looking for the answer in life? To life? For me it's praying. 

Great, just don't pray for me and it's all good, lol.
What makes me feel better when I'm looking for "the answer in life"? I am not even sure what you mean by that. Are you asking how I go about figuring out the meaning of life? Or do you mean something else?

oftenreading

Just came across this article on Al Jazeera. The top court in India has overturned a decades old ban that prevented women between the ages of 10-50 from entering one of the major temples of the country (Sabarimala Ayyappa temple). 

The article isn't long, but it's a fascinating snippet of viewpoints on religion, discrimination, personal rights, and yes, how society views women as responsible for managing men's behaviour.

Although it argues against the concepts of inclusion, I like the way this quote highlights the lack of logic inherent to religion: ""What constitutes essential religious practice is for the religious community to decide, not for the court ... notions of rationality cannot be brought into religion," said Malhotra."

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/09/india-supreme-court-overturns-ban-women-sabarimala-temple-180928074701697.html