RIP Chris Cornell

mrk2

cp3iverson said:

not sure what her crusade is

This. But better not say any more.

HughFreakingDillon

not sure what you folks are getting at. her crusade seems rather obvious to me. her mother is a different story. 

dancinacrossthewater

There's obviously been a tremendous amount of not just grief but also confusion around Chris's passing since his personal life seemed to have stabilized around the second Audioslave album and been pretty steady since. His energy generally since that time was so positive; he had such a survivor vibe about him in interviews and such a commitment to life. And his recent music is so life affirming - Higher Truth, The Promise, the Temple tour.

So the shock is so intense given all that and I don't think is really diminishing. It's normal for people to look for one exact cause, like the benzos, and NWOntario, if this has helped you get off them, it's totally a silver lining. But I think when someone like Vicky goes on a crusade against benzos it comes a bit from a need to simplify things and assign blame which is totally understandable when faced with overwhelming grief.

I don't have an exact answer right now. I miss him like crazy. He was and is my hero in ways I feel like I'm just starting to understand. I do know that when you listen to a song like Black Saturday off King Animal, Chris still felt the darkness in the last few years of his life in addition to all the hope, joy, and love expressed in stuff like the Higher Truth album and The Promise.

That's all for now, I guess. Love to everyone.

dancinacrossthewater

And it's up to all of us to honour him and keep on rowing.

Zod

dancinacrossthewater said:

That's crazy.  I have a Variant of the Soundgarden - Vancouver 2013 one as I liked it better than the colors they used at the show.  Your two are different than those too.....

dancinacrossthewater

Zod said:

dancinacrossthewater said:

That's crazy.  I have a Variant of the Soundgarden - Vancouver 2013 one as I liked it better than the colors they used at the show.  Your two are different than those too.....

Yea I think there are 4 total versions of the Vancouver 2013 print

dancinacrossthewater

Really nice tribute to Chris from Shawn Smith worth checking out. Link to buy - http://www.headwaytalent.co.uk/portfolio/shawn-smith/

lastexitlondon

NWOntario said:

I don't know if this is the right thread, or if there's even a right thread for this, so mods, feel free to delete. But...I have OCD, and in 2006 was given a prescription of Ativan. I took it intermitently through 2013, then stopped. Chris' death caused an OCD lapse, which I knew was going to happen the second I heard about it. I attacked OCD like a man possessed - but part of the treatment was an increased dosage of my daily antidepressant, and to bridge the gap I began taking Ativan again. I took it for a couple weeks, then stopped, and hadn't taken it since June...and then last week realized I still had the pills at home and at work.
So I got rid of them.
Look: I have no idea if benzos contributed to Chris' death or not. But I've done a lot of research over the past few months and learned a lot about them, and I wanted them out of my life. Even though I wasn't using them, symbolically, it felt great disposing of the pills (at the pharmacy! we don't flush pills in this house!) and then having a ceremonial disposal of the pill container itself.
I've gotta believe there are silver linings to Chris' death. I wasn't sure how I felt (or feel, for that matter) about Vicky's crusade against benzos, but her raising awareness about their potential pitfalls is a silver lining. My therapist declared me recovered in November - so that's a silver lining, too. 

I too have battled OCD for 14 years . Well done to you primarily. Its your hard work that has saved you. Hats of my friend

HughFreakingDillon

dancinacrossthewater said:

There's obviously been a tremendous amount of not just grief but also confusion around Chris's passing since his personal life seemed to have stabilized around the second Audioslave album and been pretty steady since. His energy generally since that time was so positive; he had such a survivor vibe about him in interviews and such a commitment to life. And his recent music is so life affirming - Higher Truth, The Promise, the Temple tour.

So the shock is so intense given all that and I don't think is really diminishing. It's normal for people to look for one exact cause, like the benzos, and NWOntario, if this has helped you get off them, it's totally a silver lining. But I think when someone like Vicky goes on a crusade against benzos it comes a bit from a need to simplify things and assign blame which is totally understandable when faced with overwhelming grief.

I don't have an exact answer right now. I miss him like crazy. He was and is my hero in ways I feel like I'm just starting to understand. I do know that when you listen to a song like Black Saturday off King Animal, Chris still felt the darkness in the last few years of his life in addition to all the hope, joy, and love expressed in stuff like the Higher Truth album and The Promise.

That's all for now, I guess. Love to everyone.

she's not on a crusade against benzos. 

dancinacrossthewater

HughFreakingDillon said:

dancinacrossthewater said:

There's obviously been a tremendous amount of not just grief but also confusion around Chris's passing since his personal life seemed to have stabilized around the second Audioslave album and been pretty steady since. His energy generally since that time was so positive; he had such a survivor vibe about him in interviews and such a commitment to life. And his recent music is so life affirming - Higher Truth, The Promise, the Temple tour.

So the shock is so intense given all that and I don't think is really diminishing. It's normal for people to look for one exact cause, like the benzos, and NWOntario, if this has helped you get off them, it's totally a silver lining. But I think when someone like Vicky goes on a crusade against benzos it comes a bit from a need to simplify things and assign blame which is totally understandable when faced with overwhelming grief.

I don't have an exact answer right now. I miss him like crazy. He was and is my hero in ways I feel like I'm just starting to understand. I do know that when you listen to a song like Black Saturday off King Animal, Chris still felt the darkness in the last few years of his life in addition to all the hope, joy, and love expressed in stuff like the Higher Truth album and The Promise.

That's all for now, I guess. Love to everyone.

she's not on a crusade against benzos. 

Geez that was like the least important part of what I wrote man 

HughFreakingDillon

dancinacrossthewater said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

dancinacrossthewater said:

There's obviously been a tremendous amount of not just grief but also confusion around Chris's passing since his personal life seemed to have stabilized around the second Audioslave album and been pretty steady since. His energy generally since that time was so positive; he had such a survivor vibe about him in interviews and such a commitment to life. And his recent music is so life affirming - Higher Truth, The Promise, the Temple tour.

So the shock is so intense given all that and I don't think is really diminishing. It's normal for people to look for one exact cause, like the benzos, and NWOntario, if this has helped you get off them, it's totally a silver lining. But I think when someone like Vicky goes on a crusade against benzos it comes a bit from a need to simplify things and assign blame which is totally understandable when faced with overwhelming grief.

I don't have an exact answer right now. I miss him like crazy. He was and is my hero in ways I feel like I'm just starting to understand. I do know that when you listen to a song like Black Saturday off King Animal, Chris still felt the darkness in the last few years of his life in addition to all the hope, joy, and love expressed in stuff like the Higher Truth album and The Promise.

That's all for now, I guess. Love to everyone.

she's not on a crusade against benzos. 

Geez that was like the least important part of what I wrote man 

sorry. I'll only comment on pre-approved sections of your post next time. 

dancinacrossthewater

It seemed a weird sentence to focus on is all

dancinacrossthewater

Solo acoustic version of Zero Chance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOIY8isBhe8

dospawn

Thought i'd leave this here.

lastexitlondon

I'm already  thinking  where did the last year go. I'm listening  to audioslave wishing i had paid more attention  to it previously  . I listen  to cc  most days.   Still the very best I've ever seen or heard

lastexitlondon

The day it was confirmed  as suicide  part of me felt closer  to the music. And now  a year on I'm closer than last year to it all

HughFreakingDillon

lastexitlondon said:

The day it was confirmed  as suicide  part of me felt closer  to the music. And now  a year on I'm closer than last year to it all

to me it's actually harder. part of me believes his wife that it was unintentional, that in some way the meds had some influence on him doing it when under normal mental circumstances he wouldn't have. to me that's tragic. if someone wants to leave this world, fine, but if someone does it by accident not understanding what they are doing? brutal. 

lastexitlondon

Yes  I get you on that

facepollution

HughFreakingDillon said:

lastexitlondon said:

The day it was confirmed  as suicide  part of me felt closer  to the music. And now  a year on I'm closer than last year to it all

to me it's actually harder. part of me believes his wife that it was unintentional, that in some way the meds had some influence on him doing it when under normal mental circumstances he wouldn't have. to me that's tragic. if someone wants to leave this world, fine, but if someone does it by accident not understanding what they are doing? brutal. 

I tend to agree with her, I think the evidence strongly suggests he relapsed, which in itself would have stirred up a lot of past emotions, then add impairment - it's not a big stretch.  I'm still struggling to come to terms with it.  I listen to some of his music from time to time, but it's forever changed for me.

brewdog123

meds made it easier to do what he did.  but that feeling or emotion that made him do what he did was always there...

at least that is what i believe.