Is America the greatest country in the world?

Spiritual_Chaos

cincybearcat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

cincybearcat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

cincybearcat said:

bootlegger10 said:

Meltdown99 said:

Is this the food thread???

No, it is not.  Back to the topic at hand:   USA!  USA! USA! USA! USA!

Wrong, the topic us: F the USA, F the USA

True in manY instances. but please don't generalise.

Ok, for the militant vegan this thread topic is: F the USA, F the USA

I have never claimed to be a vegan? generalising much?

You're so vain

That would be Starchild.

mcgruff10

I do think America is the best in:
wine. (Napa cabs are superior imo)
craft beer. 
Bbq
vodka. (Tito s)

our national park system is also great.  From what I have seen in Canada I think their national park system is comparable. 

23scidoo

mcgruff10 said:

I do think America is the best in:
wine. (Napa cabs are superior imo)
craft beer. 
Bbq
vodka. (Tito s)

our national park system is also great.  From what I have seen in Canada I think their national park system is comparable. 

In wine??..come on Mike!!..not even third on the world..

cincybearcat

23scidoo said:

mcgruff10 said:

I do think America is the best in:
wine. (Napa cabs are superior imo)
craft beer. 
Bbq
vodka. (Tito s)

our national park system is also great.  From what I have seen in Canada I think their national park system is comparable. 

In wine??..come on Mike!!..not even third on the world..

I don;t know wine well enough, but for beer it's a no brainer.  Best beer in the world.

mcgruff10

23scidoo said:

mcgruff10 said:

I do think America is the best in:
wine. (Napa cabs are superior imo)
craft beer. 
Bbq
vodka. (Tito s)

our national park system is also great.  From what I have seen in Canada I think their national park system is comparable. 

In wine??..come on Mike!!..not even third on the world..

What is one and two?  I think French wine is way overrated.  I do love Italian whites but to me California cabs are the best reds out there. 

mcgruff10

cincybearcat said:

23scidoo said:

mcgruff10 said:

I do think America is the best in:
wine. (Napa cabs are superior imo)
craft beer. 
Bbq
vodka. (Tito s)

our national park system is also great.  From what I have seen in Canada I think their national park system is comparable. 

In wine??..come on Mike!!..not even third on the world..

I don;t know wine well enough, but for beer it's a no brainer.  Best beer in the world.

Belgium definitely has some great beer but I think the us edges them out. 

cincybearcat

mcgruff10 said:

cincybearcat said:

23scidoo said:

mcgruff10 said:

I do think America is the best in:
wine. (Napa cabs are superior imo)
craft beer. 
Bbq
vodka. (Tito s)

our national park system is also great.  From what I have seen in Canada I think their national park system is comparable. 

In wine??..come on Mike!!..not even third on the world..

I don;t know wine well enough, but for beer it's a no brainer.  Best beer in the world.

Belgium definitely has some great beer but I think the us edges them out. 

Belgium is my #2 for sure

Spiritual_Chaos

mcgruff10 said:

cincybearcat said:

23scidoo said:

mcgruff10 said:

I do think America is the best in:
wine. (Napa cabs are superior imo)
craft beer. 
Bbq
vodka. (Tito s)

our national park system is also great.  From what I have seen in Canada I think their national park system is comparable. 

In wine??..come on Mike!!..not even third on the world..

I don;t know wine well enough, but for beer it's a no brainer.  Best beer in the world.

Belgium definitely has some great beer but I think the us edges them out. 

All I saw in Philadelphia was Lite-this and Diet-that.

When I asked for something "regular at Wells Fargo - The Bartender had leave to go find me something... "I found this dustY old heineken in a storage, the onlY regular beer we had. SorrY to keep You waiting, if You run¨back You might catch the end of Breath atleast..."

Spiritual_Chaos

mcgruff10 said:

I do think America is the best in:
wine. (Napa cabs are superior imo)
craft beer. 
Bbq
vodka. (Tito s)

our national park system is also great.  From what I have seen in Canada I think their national park system is comparable. 

What makes Your "national park sYStems" better/different than other nations?

And okeY, other countries have sane health care sYStems, sane democratic sYstems, sane gun regulations etc, not Donald "fifth grade level" Trump in charge - You have bbq :P

Do You have "allemansrätt" in the US?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_to_roam

In Sweden allemansrätten (lit. "the everyman's right") is a freedom granted by the Constitution of Sweden. Since 1994 the Instrument of Government says that notwithstanding the right to own property "everyone shall have access to nature in accordance with allemansrätten".[9] What this means is not further explicated on in the constitution, and only sparsely in other legislation.[10] In practice, allemansrätten is defined as actions that are not crimes, will not make a person liable to pay damages, nor can be prohibited by any authority.[11] As in other Nordic countries, the Swedish right to roam comes with an equal emphasis being placed upon the responsibility to look after the countryside; the maxim is "do not disturb, do not destroy".

Allemansrätten gives a person the right to access, walk, cycle, ride, ski, and camp on any land—with the exception of private gardens, the immediate vicinity of a dwelling house and land under cultivation. Restrictions apply for nature reserves and other protected areas. It also gives the right to pick wild flowers, mushrooms and berries (provided one knows they are not legally protected), but not to hunt in any way. Swimming in any lake and putting an unpowered boat on any water is permitted unless explicitly forbidden. Visiting beaches and walking by a shoreline is permitted, providing it is not a part of a garden or within the immediate vicinity of a residence (legally defined as the hemfridszon). The hemfridszon's size depends on conditions but can be as large as 70 metres from an ordinary dwelling house.[10] To better protect access to water and the right to walk along beaches, it is since 1975 generally not permitted to build a new house near (generally 100 m) from a beach and/or shoreline.

mcgruff10

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

cincybearcat said:

23scidoo said:

mcgruff10 said:

I do think America is the best in:
wine. (Napa cabs are superior imo)
craft beer. 
Bbq
vodka. (Tito s)

our national park system is also great.  From what I have seen in Canada I think their national park system is comparable. 

In wine??..come on Mike!!..not even third on the world..

I don;t know wine well enough, but for beer it's a no brainer.  Best beer in the world.

Belgium definitely has some great beer but I think the us edges them out. 

All I saw in Philadelphia was Lite-this and Diet-that.

When I asked for something "regular at Wells Fargo - The Bartender had leave to go find me something... "I found this dustY old heineken in a storage, the onlY regular beer we had. SorrY to keep You waiting, if You run¨back You might catch the end of Breath atleast..."

That was at an arena, go to a good bar and get a craft beer. 

tbergs

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

cincybearcat said:

23scidoo said:

mcgruff10 said:

I do think America is the best in:
wine. (Napa cabs are superior imo)
craft beer. 
Bbq
vodka. (Tito s)

our national park system is also great.  From what I have seen in Canada I think their national park system is comparable. 

In wine??..come on Mike!!..not even third on the world..

I don;t know wine well enough, but for beer it's a no brainer.  Best beer in the world.

Belgium definitely has some great beer but I think the us edges them out. 

All I saw in Philadelphia was Lite-this and Diet-that.

When I asked for something "regular at Wells Fargo - The Bartender had leave to go find me something... "I found this dustY old heineken in a storage, the onlY regular beer we had. SorrY to keep You waiting, if You run¨back You might catch the end of Breath atleast..."

Why are all of your "Y" letters capitalized in every post? Is it a hidden message that you believe the Y chromosome to be far superior or are you always just wondering why and have found a way to shorten it, or maybe you'd like Pearl Jam to make the follow-up song to "U" called "Y"?

Spiritual_Chaos

tbergs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

cincybearcat said:

23scidoo said:

mcgruff10 said:

I do think America is the best in:
wine. (Napa cabs are superior imo)
craft beer. 
Bbq
vodka. (Tito s)

our national park system is also great.  From what I have seen in Canada I think their national park system is comparable. 

In wine??..come on Mike!!..not even third on the world..

I don;t know wine well enough, but for beer it's a no brainer.  Best beer in the world.

Belgium definitely has some great beer but I think the us edges them out. 

All I saw in Philadelphia was Lite-this and Diet-that.

When I asked for something "regular at Wells Fargo - The Bartender had leave to go find me something... "I found this dustY old heineken in a storage, the onlY regular beer we had. SorrY to keep You waiting, if You run¨back You might catch the end of Breath atleast..."

Why are all of your "Y" letters capitalized in every post? Is it a hidden message that you believe the Y chromosome to be far superior or are you always just wondering why and have found a way to shorten it, or maybe you'd like Pearl Jam to make the follow-up song to "U" called "Y"?

A cup of tea spilled out over mY Macbook Air keYboard.

PJ_Soul

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

I do think America is the best in:
wine. (Napa cabs are superior imo)
craft beer. 
Bbq
vodka. (Tito s)

our national park system is also great.  From what I have seen in Canada I think their national park system is comparable. 

What makes Your "national park sYStems" better/different than other nations?

And okeY, other countries have sane health care sYStems, sane democratic sYstems, sane gun regulations etc, not Donald "fifth grade level" Trump in charge - You have bbq :P

Do You have "allemansrätt" in the US?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_to_roam

In Sweden allemansrätten (lit. "the everyman's right") is a freedom granted by the Constitution of Sweden. Since 1994 the Instrument of Government says that notwithstanding the right to own property "everyone shall have access to nature in accordance with allemansrätten".[9] What this means is not further explicated on in the constitution, and only sparsely in other legislation.[10] In practice, allemansrätten is defined as actions that are not crimes, will not make a person liable to pay damages, nor can be prohibited by any authority.[11] As in other Nordic countries, the Swedish right to roam comes with an equal emphasis being placed upon the responsibility to look after the countryside; the maxim is "do not disturb, do not destroy".

Allemansrätten gives a person the right to access, walk, cycle, ride, ski, and camp on any land—with the exception of private gardens, the immediate vicinity of a dwelling house and land under cultivation. Restrictions apply for nature reserves and other protected areas. It also gives the right to pick wild flowers, mushrooms and berries (provided one knows they are not legally protected), but not to hunt in any way. Swimming in any lake and putting an unpowered boat on any water is permitted unless explicitly forbidden. Visiting beaches and walking by a shoreline is permitted, providing it is not a part of a garden or within the immediate vicinity of a residence (legally defined as the hemfridszon). The hemfridszon's size depends on conditions but can be as large as 70 metres from an ordinary dwelling house.[10] To better protect access to water and the right to walk along beaches, it is since 1975 generally not permitted to build a new house near (generally 100 m) from a beach and/or shoreline.

I don't see why this thread has to be used for a pissing contest...

mcgruff10

Spiritual_Chaos said:

tbergs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

cincybearcat said:

23scidoo said:

mcgruff10 said:

I do think America is the best in:
wine. (Napa cabs are superior imo)
craft beer. 
Bbq
vodka. (Tito s)

our national park system is also great.  From what I have seen in Canada I think their national park system is comparable. 

In wine??..come on Mike!!..not even third on the world..

I don;t know wine well enough, but for beer it's a no brainer.  Best beer in the world.

Belgium definitely has some great beer but I think the us edges them out. 

All I saw in Philadelphia was Lite-this and Diet-that.

When I asked for something "regular at Wells Fargo - The Bartender had leave to go find me something... "I found this dustY old heineken in a storage, the onlY regular beer we had. SorrY to keep You waiting, if You run¨back You might catch the end of Breath atleast..."

Why are all of your "Y" letters capitalized in every post? Is it a hidden message that you believe the Y chromosome to be far superior or are you always just wondering why and have found a way to shorten it, or maybe you'd like Pearl Jam to make the follow-up song to "U" called "Y"?

A cup of tea spilled out over mY Macbook Air keYboard.

So you went to america and drank Dutch beer?  Come on man. (Monday night football reference there)

Spiritual_Chaos

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

tbergs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

cincybearcat said:

23scidoo said:

mcgruff10 said:

I do think America is the best in:
wine. (Napa cabs are superior imo)
craft beer. 
Bbq
vodka. (Tito s)

our national park system is also great.  From what I have seen in Canada I think their national park system is comparable. 

In wine??..come on Mike!!..not even third on the world..

I don;t know wine well enough, but for beer it's a no brainer.  Best beer in the world.

Belgium definitely has some great beer but I think the us edges them out. 

All I saw in Philadelphia was Lite-this and Diet-that.

When I asked for something "regular at Wells Fargo - The Bartender had leave to go find me something... "I found this dustY old heineken in a storage, the onlY regular beer we had. SorrY to keep You waiting, if You run¨back You might catch the end of Breath atleast..."

Why are all of your "Y" letters capitalized in every post? Is it a hidden message that you believe the Y chromosome to be far superior or are you always just wondering why and have found a way to shorten it, or maybe you'd like Pearl Jam to make the follow-up song to "U" called "Y"?

A cup of tea spilled out over mY Macbook Air keYboard.

So you went to america and drank Dutch beer?  Come on man. (Monday night football reference there)

The quote was not completelY true, I don't remember what she found back there. but something that ¨wasn't diet/lite/light

And she did remember me an hour later, even gave me a regular kind again without me asking. So must be rare...

mcgruff10

PJ_Soul said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

I do think America is the best in:
wine. (Napa cabs are superior imo)
craft beer. 
Bbq
vodka. (Tito s)

our national park system is also great.  From what I have seen in Canada I think their national park system is comparable. 

What makes Your "national park sYStems" better/different than other nations?

And okeY, other countries have sane health care sYStems, sane democratic sYstems, sane gun regulations etc, not Donald "fifth grade level" Trump in charge - You have bbq :P

Do You have "allemansrätt" in the US?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_to_roam

In Sweden allemansrätten (lit. "the everyman's right") is a freedom granted by the Constitution of Sweden. Since 1994 the Instrument of Government says that notwithstanding the right to own property "everyone shall have access to nature in accordance with allemansrätten".[9] What this means is not further explicated on in the constitution, and only sparsely in other legislation.[10] In practice, allemansrätten is defined as actions that are not crimes, will not make a person liable to pay damages, nor can be prohibited by any authority.[11] As in other Nordic countries, the Swedish right to roam comes with an equal emphasis being placed upon the responsibility to look after the countryside; the maxim is "do not disturb, do not destroy".

Allemansrätten gives a person the right to access, walk, cycle, ride, ski, and camp on any land—with the exception of private gardens, the immediate vicinity of a dwelling house and land under cultivation. Restrictions apply for nature reserves and other protected areas. It also gives the right to pick wild flowers, mushrooms and berries (provided one knows they are not legally protected), but not to hunt in any way. Swimming in any lake and putting an unpowered boat on any water is permitted unless explicitly forbidden. Visiting beaches and walking by a shoreline is permitted, providing it is not a part of a garden or within the immediate vicinity of a residence (legally defined as the hemfridszon). The hemfridszon's size depends on conditions but can be as large as 70 metres from an ordinary dwelling house.[10] To better protect access to water and the right to walk along beaches, it is since 1975 generally not permitted to build a new house near (generally 100 m) from a beach and/or shoreline.

I don't see why this thread has to be used for a pissing contest...

true that.  I just think america like Canada has great national parks. Not the best but both countries Have wonderful national parks. 

Spiritual_Chaos

PJ_Soul said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

I do think America is the best in:
wine. (Napa cabs are superior imo)
craft beer. 
Bbq
vodka. (Tito s)

our national park system is also great.  From what I have seen in Canada I think their national park system is comparable. 

What makes Your "national park sYStems" better/different than other nations?

And okeY, other countries have sane health care sYStems, sane democratic sYstems, sane gun regulations etc, not Donald "fifth grade level" Trump in charge - You have bbq :P

Do You have "allemansrätt" in the US?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_to_roam

In Sweden allemansrätten (lit. "the everyman's right") is a freedom granted by the Constitution of Sweden. Since 1994 the Instrument of Government says that notwithstanding the right to own property "everyone shall have access to nature in accordance with allemansrätten".[9] What this means is not further explicated on in the constitution, and only sparsely in other legislation.[10] In practice, allemansrätten is defined as actions that are not crimes, will not make a person liable to pay damages, nor can be prohibited by any authority.[11] As in other Nordic countries, the Swedish right to roam comes with an equal emphasis being placed upon the responsibility to look after the countryside; the maxim is "do not disturb, do not destroy".

Allemansrätten gives a person the right to access, walk, cycle, ride, ski, and camp on any land—with the exception of private gardens, the immediate vicinity of a dwelling house and land under cultivation. Restrictions apply for nature reserves and other protected areas. It also gives the right to pick wild flowers, mushrooms and berries (provided one knows they are not legally protected), but not to hunt in any way. Swimming in any lake and putting an unpowered boat on any water is permitted unless explicitly forbidden. Visiting beaches and walking by a shoreline is permitted, providing it is not a part of a garden or within the immediate vicinity of a residence (legally defined as the hemfridszon). The hemfridszon's size depends on conditions but can be as large as 70 metres from an ordinary dwelling house.[10] To better protect access to water and the right to walk along beaches, it is since 1975 generally not permitted to build a new house near (generally 100 m) from a beach and/or shoreline.

I don't see why this thread has to be used for a pissing contest...

I asked two questions. I don't know how the national parks sYstem ¨works in the US or whY the US would be the best.

oftenreading

California reds, especially the cabs, are way too overblown. I guess if you like that style, you like Californian cabs, but I don’t. 

Italian reds are much better, with greater variety in style. I also like a lot of Argentinian reds.

South African wines just suck.   

PJ_Soul

I don't even care. I buy BC wines exclusively now, just to support the local economy. Luckily, BC wines are some of the best in the world too. Most Americans wouldn't know that though, apparently. I tried to find some BC wines when I was down there, and there was literally not a single bottle on the shelves in any of the stores I went to.

oftenreading

PJ_Soul said:

I don't even care. I buy BC wines exclusively now, just to support the local economy. Luckily, BC wines are some of the best in the world too. Most Americans wouldn't know that though, apparently. I tried to find some BC wines when I was down there, and there was literally not a single bottle on the shelves in any of the stores I went to.

There are some good ones and some crap ones, and all tend to be overpriced, with the good ones at the extreme. Most good BC wines aren’t worth what they’re asking.