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He’s not a successful business man. He was a successful television star playing a successful business man.mcgruff10 said:
My god are you serious?oftenreading said:
I think it’s safe to say that Obama listened to the options presented by the officers, discussed the pros and cons, weighed the options and gave the go ahead for his choice. It’s unlikely that the same can be said of Trump.HughFreakingDillon said:playing devil's advocate here:
why does everyone give obama credit for bin laden but give trump zero credit when high ranking ISIS militants are captured/killed? you can't have both. did trump have anything to do with it? doubtful, but he likely still had to be in on it and possibly give his blessing. I highly doubt Obama was in on the planning of capturing bin laden. he merely listened to his generals and gave the ok to go in and got a picture taken while he watched it on tv.
Yes the majority of you hate Trump and think he's an idiot but he's a successful businessman who's a freaking billionaire, who beat out 15 (?) other republican candidates and beat Clinton. He is definitely not as dumb as some of you make him out to be. Yes he should put down his twitter account and he sucks at public speaking but I do think he's a very smart man.
You guys all have fun just agreeing with each other.
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Read up on the cabinet officials and the VP on how engaged he was. Read up on his morning routine. Give us a break.HughFreakingDillon said:everyone here saying obama was engaged and trump is not have zero proof of this. it is all just assumptions based on what you hear from the media and leaks from inside the WH.
I hate trump as much as the next guy, but come on.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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But no one is talking about Obama in this Trump thread. The point is that this is a political thread where people should be able to voice their opinions without getting ripped. One member said Trump has done a decent job, constructively and respectfully gave his reasons, and he got lambasted by everyone. That makes for a pretty boring thread in my opinion.Halifax2TheMax said:
Same can be said of those that don’t give Obama an ounce of credit for anything. Like bringing 13 hostages back from NK. Or just maybe having common decency, professionalism, empathy and actually got things done for the best interests of the country, despite, “our number one priority is to see this president fail,” and not his ego.bbiggs said:
That’s because it’s lop-sided in here. It’s 1,000 against 1. Anyone who utters one word that is not pure hatred for trump is chastised. It’s kind of pathetic.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:HughFreakingDillon said:playing devil's advocate here:
why does everyone give obama credit for bin laden but give trump zero credit when high ranking ISIS militants are captured/killed? you can't have both. did trump have anything to do with it? doubtful, but he likely still had to be in on it and possibly give his blessing. I highly doubt Obama was in on the planning of capturing bin laden. he merely listened to his generals and gave the ok to go in and got a picture taken while he watched it on tv.
It's tough to play devil's advocate in this thread. For good reason, the hatred runs deep for McDonald Trump.
I hate poopy pants as much as the next guy, but the venom spit at Scruffy in the last few pages has been excessive in my opinion.0 -
If he’s such a successful business man, why hasn’t he released his taxes? The repube party caved and he needed an assist from putin on the ritz. As for his current “success?” “We’ll see.”mcgruff10 said:
My god are you serious?oftenreading said:
I think it’s safe to say that Obama listened to the options presented by the officers, discussed the pros and cons, weighed the options and gave the go ahead for his choice. It’s unlikely that the same can be said of Trump.HughFreakingDillon said:playing devil's advocate here:
why does everyone give obama credit for bin laden but give trump zero credit when high ranking ISIS militants are captured/killed? you can't have both. did trump have anything to do with it? doubtful, but he likely still had to be in on it and possibly give his blessing. I highly doubt Obama was in on the planning of capturing bin laden. he merely listened to his generals and gave the ok to go in and got a picture taken while he watched it on tv.
Yes the majority of you hate Trump and think he's an idiot but he's a successful businessman who's a freaking billionaire, who beat out 15 (?) other republican candidates and beat Clinton. He is definitely not as dumb as some of you make him out to be. Yes he should put down his twitter account and he sucks at public speaking but I do think he's a very smart man.
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Because they disagree with his assessment of Trump’s performance. It’s boring if everyone just said, yup, I’m with you. Personally, I enjoy reading the Team Trump Treason defenders. It’s astounding to me.bbiggs said:
But no one is talking about Obama in this Trump thread. The point is that this is a political thread where people should be able to voice their opinions without getting ripped. One member said Trump has done a decent job, constructively and respectfully gave his reasons, and he got lambasted by everyone. That makes for a pretty boring thread in my opinion.Halifax2TheMax said:
Same can be said of those that don’t give Obama an ounce of credit for anything. Like bringing 13 hostages back from NK. Or just maybe having common decency, professionalism, empathy and actually got things done for the best interests of the country, despite, “our number one priority is to see this president fail,” and not his ego.bbiggs said:
That’s because it’s lop-sided in here. It’s 1,000 against 1. Anyone who utters one word that is not pure hatred for trump is chastised. It’s kind of pathetic.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:HughFreakingDillon said:playing devil's advocate here:
why does everyone give obama credit for bin laden but give trump zero credit when high ranking ISIS militants are captured/killed? you can't have both. did trump have anything to do with it? doubtful, but he likely still had to be in on it and possibly give his blessing. I highly doubt Obama was in on the planning of capturing bin laden. he merely listened to his generals and gave the ok to go in and got a picture taken while he watched it on tv.
It's tough to play devil's advocate in this thread. For good reason, the hatred runs deep for McDonald Trump.
I hate poopy pants as much as the next guy, but the venom spit at Scruffy in the last few pages has been excessive in my opinion.
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This whole thread is everyone saying precisely that. “Yup, I’m with you.” That’s my point. One person says otherwise and the masses want to tar and feather him.Halifax2TheMax said:
Because they disagree with his assessment of Trump’s performance. It’s boring if everyone just said, yup, I’m with you. Personally, I enjoy reading the Team Trump Treason defenders. It’s astounding to me.bbiggs said:
But no one is talking about Obama in this Trump thread. The point is that this is a political thread where people should be able to voice their opinions without getting ripped. One member said Trump has done a decent job, constructively and respectfully gave his reasons, and he got lambasted by everyone. That makes for a pretty boring thread in my opinion.Halifax2TheMax said:
Same can be said of those that don’t give Obama an ounce of credit for anything. Like bringing 13 hostages back from NK. Or just maybe having common decency, professionalism, empathy and actually got things done for the best interests of the country, despite, “our number one priority is to see this president fail,” and not his ego.bbiggs said:
That’s because it’s lop-sided in here. It’s 1,000 against 1. Anyone who utters one word that is not pure hatred for trump is chastised. It’s kind of pathetic.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:HughFreakingDillon said:playing devil's advocate here:
why does everyone give obama credit for bin laden but give trump zero credit when high ranking ISIS militants are captured/killed? you can't have both. did trump have anything to do with it? doubtful, but he likely still had to be in on it and possibly give his blessing. I highly doubt Obama was in on the planning of capturing bin laden. he merely listened to his generals and gave the ok to go in and got a picture taken while he watched it on tv.
It's tough to play devil's advocate in this thread. For good reason, the hatred runs deep for McDonald Trump.
I hate poopy pants as much as the next guy, but the venom spit at Scruffy in the last few pages has been excessive in my opinion.
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I couldn't disagree with this any more. It's not fun at all, agreeing all the time. Boring.mcgruff10 said:
My god are you serious?oftenreading said:
I think it’s safe to say that Obama listened to the options presented by the officers, discussed the pros and cons, weighed the options and gave the go ahead for his choice. It’s unlikely that the same can be said of Trump.HughFreakingDillon said:playing devil's advocate here:
why does everyone give obama credit for bin laden but give trump zero credit when high ranking ISIS militants are captured/killed? you can't have both. did trump have anything to do with it? doubtful, but he likely still had to be in on it and possibly give his blessing. I highly doubt Obama was in on the planning of capturing bin laden. he merely listened to his generals and gave the ok to go in and got a picture taken while he watched it on tv.
Yes the majority of you hate Trump and think he's an idiot but he's a successful businessman who's a freaking billionaire, who beat out 15 (?) other republican candidates and beat Clinton. He is definitely not as dumb as some of you make him out to be. Yes he should put down his twitter account and he sucks at public speaking but I do think he's a very smart man.
You guys all have fun just agreeing with each other.0 -
Can’t take the heat, get out of the kitchen. McGruff seems to hold his own quite well. Hell, he and I are going to solve all the world’s problems at the next jointly attended pre/post party. Like I said, astounding.bbiggs said:
This whole thread is everyone saying precisely that. “Yup, I’m with you.” That’s my point. One person says otherwise and the masses want to tar and feather him.Halifax2TheMax said:
Because they disagree with his assessment of Trump’s performance. It’s boring if everyone just said, yup, I’m with you. Personally, I enjoy reading the Team Trump Treason defenders. It’s astounding to me.bbiggs said:
But no one is talking about Obama in this Trump thread. The point is that this is a political thread where people should be able to voice their opinions without getting ripped. One member said Trump has done a decent job, constructively and respectfully gave his reasons, and he got lambasted by everyone. That makes for a pretty boring thread in my opinion.Halifax2TheMax said:
Same can be said of those that don’t give Obama an ounce of credit for anything. Like bringing 13 hostages back from NK. Or just maybe having common decency, professionalism, empathy and actually got things done for the best interests of the country, despite, “our number one priority is to see this president fail,” and not his ego.bbiggs said:
That’s because it’s lop-sided in here. It’s 1,000 against 1. Anyone who utters one word that is not pure hatred for trump is chastised. It’s kind of pathetic.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:HughFreakingDillon said:playing devil's advocate here:
why does everyone give obama credit for bin laden but give trump zero credit when high ranking ISIS militants are captured/killed? you can't have both. did trump have anything to do with it? doubtful, but he likely still had to be in on it and possibly give his blessing. I highly doubt Obama was in on the planning of capturing bin laden. he merely listened to his generals and gave the ok to go in and got a picture taken while he watched it on tv.
It's tough to play devil's advocate in this thread. For good reason, the hatred runs deep for McDonald Trump.
I hate poopy pants as much as the next guy, but the venom spit at Scruffy in the last few pages has been excessive in my opinion.
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Of course he can hold his own and he certainly doesn’t need me rushing to his defense. I’m just making a point and responding to your counters. And if that was directed at me, I can take the heat brother. I’m quite comfortable actually. I hope to join in on the world problem-solving conversations at the shows. Cheers.Halifax2TheMax said:
Can’t take the heat, get out of the kitchen. McGruff seems to hold his own quite well. Hell, he and I are going to solve all the world’s problems at the next jointly attended pre/post party. Like I said, astounding.bbiggs said:
This whole thread is everyone saying precisely that. “Yup, I’m with you.” That’s my point. One person says otherwise and the masses want to tar and feather him.Halifax2TheMax said:
Because they disagree with his assessment of Trump’s performance. It’s boring if everyone just said, yup, I’m with you. Personally, I enjoy reading the Team Trump Treason defenders. It’s astounding to me.bbiggs said:
But no one is talking about Obama in this Trump thread. The point is that this is a political thread where people should be able to voice their opinions without getting ripped. One member said Trump has done a decent job, constructively and respectfully gave his reasons, and he got lambasted by everyone. That makes for a pretty boring thread in my opinion.Halifax2TheMax said:
Same can be said of those that don’t give Obama an ounce of credit for anything. Like bringing 13 hostages back from NK. Or just maybe having common decency, professionalism, empathy and actually got things done for the best interests of the country, despite, “our number one priority is to see this president fail,” and not his ego.bbiggs said:
That’s because it’s lop-sided in here. It’s 1,000 against 1. Anyone who utters one word that is not pure hatred for trump is chastised. It’s kind of pathetic.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:HughFreakingDillon said:playing devil's advocate here:
why does everyone give obama credit for bin laden but give trump zero credit when high ranking ISIS militants are captured/killed? you can't have both. did trump have anything to do with it? doubtful, but he likely still had to be in on it and possibly give his blessing. I highly doubt Obama was in on the planning of capturing bin laden. he merely listened to his generals and gave the ok to go in and got a picture taken while he watched it on tv.
It's tough to play devil's advocate in this thread. For good reason, the hatred runs deep for McDonald Trump.
I hate poopy pants as much as the next guy, but the venom spit at Scruffy in the last few pages has been excessive in my opinion.
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I have. Trump starts his workday at 11. Obama started as late as 10, but also would sometimes work well into the evening. we also know that Trump doesn't spend a whole lot of time actually working, especially compared to obama. that can be good and bad. leaders at the top are supposed to lead and delegate. I know the president of my company works zero overtime, while many people in the company do.Halifax2TheMax said:
Read up on the cabinet officials and the VP on how engaged he was. Read up on his morning routine. Give us a break.HughFreakingDillon said:everyone here saying obama was engaged and trump is not have zero proof of this. it is all just assumptions based on what you hear from the media and leaks from inside the WH.
I hate trump as much as the next guy, but come on.
however, that has zero to do with whether Trump had anything to do with ISIS or the NK hostages being released. My point is everyone here is only assuming he shouldn't be given credit for any of it. We can all surmise from the political cartoons that we are constantly seeing of him binging on KFC and watching Fox and Friends 24/7. But this is obviously not reality.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
That's why I spend time on that other site.mrussel1 said:
I couldn't disagree with this any more. It's not fun at all, agreeing all the time. Boring.mcgruff10 said:
My god are you serious?oftenreading said:
I think it’s safe to say that Obama listened to the options presented by the officers, discussed the pros and cons, weighed the options and gave the go ahead for his choice. It’s unlikely that the same can be said of Trump.HughFreakingDillon said:playing devil's advocate here:
why does everyone give obama credit for bin laden but give trump zero credit when high ranking ISIS militants are captured/killed? you can't have both. did trump have anything to do with it? doubtful, but he likely still had to be in on it and possibly give his blessing. I highly doubt Obama was in on the planning of capturing bin laden. he merely listened to his generals and gave the ok to go in and got a picture taken while he watched it on tv.
Yes the majority of you hate Trump and think he's an idiot but he's a successful businessman who's a freaking billionaire, who beat out 15 (?) other republican candidates and beat Clinton. He is definitely not as dumb as some of you make him out to be. Yes he should put down his twitter account and he sucks at public speaking but I do think he's a very smart man.
You guys all have fun just agreeing with each other.
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Venom spit? Tarred & feathered? Exaggerate much? Lol
I love my boy McGruff (despite our difference of opinion about Riot Act & Binaural lol)... I know he is a smart dude, history buff, and teacher... and because of that I really value his opinion... that's why I'm surprised... still love the dude and respect him, just a little shocked
He said he is pleasantly surprised by Trump... I found that interesting... I asked him why... his answers were frankly very weak in my opinion.... so I adressed each one with a rebuttal...
One day I will have an IPA with McGruff, while spinning the 21st century masterpiece Riot Act, and tell him personally that he is crazy and Trump fucking blows lol
I would agree with the earlier statement i saw that if Trump is impressing you, that must be a very low bar!
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it is possible he was a successful (well maybe) businessman as a younger guy but is an idiot in the position he now olds? both can be true. you can be successful in one job but incompetent as you progress to a higher level. for the office he now holds, at his current age and health, he is an idiot...in my humble opinion.mcgruff10 said:
My god are you serious?oftenreading said:
I think it’s safe to say that Obama listened to the options presented by the officers, discussed the pros and cons, weighed the options and gave the go ahead for his choice. It’s unlikely that the same can be said of Trump.HughFreakingDillon said:playing devil's advocate here:
why does everyone give obama credit for bin laden but give trump zero credit when high ranking ISIS militants are captured/killed? you can't have both. did trump have anything to do with it? doubtful, but he likely still had to be in on it and possibly give his blessing. I highly doubt Obama was in on the planning of capturing bin laden. he merely listened to his generals and gave the ok to go in and got a picture taken while he watched it on tv.
Yes the majority of you hate Trump and think he's an idiot but he's a successful businessman who's a freaking billionaire, who beat out 15 (?) other republican candidates and beat Clinton. He is definitely not as dumb as some of you make him out to be. Yes he should put down his twitter account and he sucks at public speaking but I do think he's a very smart man.
You guys all have fun just agreeing with each other.0 -
He's going to buy me a beer with my own money. That's sorta Trumpy.
I'll be thinking about that in Amsterdam in 4 weeks.Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 061320180 -
I've spent time there. They are terrible at making cogent arguments. Within two messages, they resort to name calling, even when trying to have a normal discussion. A few can hold their own but definitely minority.Tiki said:
That's why I spend time on that other site.mrussel1 said:
I couldn't disagree with this any more. It's not fun at all, agreeing all the time. Boring.mcgruff10 said:
My god are you serious?oftenreading said:
I think it’s safe to say that Obama listened to the options presented by the officers, discussed the pros and cons, weighed the options and gave the go ahead for his choice. It’s unlikely that the same can be said of Trump.HughFreakingDillon said:playing devil's advocate here:
why does everyone give obama credit for bin laden but give trump zero credit when high ranking ISIS militants are captured/killed? you can't have both. did trump have anything to do with it? doubtful, but he likely still had to be in on it and possibly give his blessing. I highly doubt Obama was in on the planning of capturing bin laden. he merely listened to his generals and gave the ok to go in and got a picture taken while he watched it on tv.
Yes the majority of you hate Trump and think he's an idiot but he's a successful businessman who's a freaking billionaire, who beat out 15 (?) other republican candidates and beat Clinton. He is definitely not as dumb as some of you make him out to be. Yes he should put down his twitter account and he sucks at public speaking but I do think he's a very smart man.
You guys all have fun just agreeing with each other.
Rattling the ECHO CHAMBER.0 -
It’s possible, but we don’t really even have much proof he was a successful businessman at any point. What we do know is:pjhawks said:
it is possible he was a successful (well maybe) businessman as a younger guy but is an idiot in the position he now olds? both can be true. you can be successful in one job but incompetent as you progress to a higher level. for the office he now holds, at his current age and health, he is an idiot...in my humble opinion.mcgruff10 said:
My god are you serious?oftenreading said:
I think it’s safe to say that Obama listened to the options presented by the officers, discussed the pros and cons, weighed the options and gave the go ahead for his choice. It’s unlikely that the same can be said of Trump.HughFreakingDillon said:playing devil's advocate here:
why does everyone give obama credit for bin laden but give trump zero credit when high ranking ISIS militants are captured/killed? you can't have both. did trump have anything to do with it? doubtful, but he likely still had to be in on it and possibly give his blessing. I highly doubt Obama was in on the planning of capturing bin laden. he merely listened to his generals and gave the ok to go in and got a picture taken while he watched it on tv.
Yes the majority of you hate Trump and think he's an idiot but he's a successful businessman who's a freaking billionaire, who beat out 15 (?) other republican candidates and beat Clinton. He is definitely not as dumb as some of you make him out to be. Yes he should put down his twitter account and he sucks at public speaking but I do think he's a very smart man.
You guys all have fun just agreeing with each other.
He started off wealthy
He bankrupted six companies
He’s been known to overstate his wealth
He has refused to release any independently verified proof of his income or net worth
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
How many bankruptcies were utilized?
How many employees and vendors did he stiff?
Take a ride to Atlantic City if you think he is a successful businessman... I stayed at the Taj Mahal years ago before it closed, it was a fucking dump... totally disgusting property that was horribly run... his properties are a massive blight on that town to this day0 -
I don’t think people were under the impression it played out any differently. How I see these things with trump is that he is presented one option, and he says okay to it. He is not a person who gathers information and weighs things out critically. He actually seems pretty proud to be ignorant.mcgruff10 said:
You would be correct. Just finished "the operator" and Obama had nothing to do with the planning or intelligence gathering of capturing Bin Laden. He was given several options and in the end gave the go for the mission.HughFreakingDillon said:playing devil's advocate here:
why does everyone give obama credit for bin laden but give trump zero credit when high ranking ISIS militants are captured/killed? you can't have both. did trump have anything to do with it? doubtful, but he likely still had to be in on it and possibly give his blessing. I highly doubt Obama was in on the planning of capturing bin laden. he merely listened to his generals and gave the ok to go in and got a picture taken while he watched it on tv.0 -
I don't see what the concern is here. If a Trump supporter wants to come on this thread and state why they think things are going well they are free to do so. Yes, they will face rebuttals, that should be expected. There is also nothing stopping someone who is in agreement with his policies or actions to come on here and rebut anyone who thinks otherwise. I think the main reason you don't see it happen very often is because it is hard to speak for anything he does because of the terrible person he is. You might as well go to the Bill Cosby or Harvey Weinstein threads and try to proclaim the great things they did and see where that gets you as well. Terrible people may momentarily be able to hide or conceal their true self by doing something that seems great, but that should not allow their acts to be forgiven or forgotten unless they make a change and seek forgiveness through acknowledgement of their misdeeds.It's a hopeless situation...0
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