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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,678
    unsung said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Trump declares himself a nationalist... well we all knew he acted like one,  but now the mask is off.    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/412649-trump-you-know-what-i-am-im-a-nationalist

    Reminds me of the quote by DeGaulle.  More befitting words are rarely spoken

     "Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first."
    My home country should be my priority.  Oh no, I’m not a globalist either.
    I think it's abundantly clear that Trump is a nationalist using DeGaulle's definition... that is unless the country in question offers Trump or his family a clear financial benefit.  Then inherent prejudices can be overlooked. 
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,315
    tbergs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
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    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:9
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Headline from my local newspaper (main area of distribution is two counties with approx one million people.) Seems like  trump wasn’t wrong on this one: 

    "Not bad in Your book" , right?
    Hey I call them like I see them, he was right. 
    by the way, it was “my neck of the woods.”  When you want to use my own words use them right. 
    No, it was "not bad in mY book".
    Ok whatever, I am not understanding your point. He emphasized a long time ago and everyone on the forum downplayed it; turns out he was right. 
    If you’re claiming he was right, what was he right about. No one is saying ms 13 doesn’t exist. trump over stated the gang trying to weave it into a manipulative message about immigration policy. The actual number of ms 13 gang members has been the same for many years and was originally born in the US prison system. 
    Exactly..I know they've been in DC for years.  
    From the article I read their numbers are going up in nj. 

    Are you afraid of the Bloods and the Crips too? What about Hell's Angels? Why do you think Trump singles out only this one kind of gang when there are many others like them? 
    Yeah I am not a fan of any of the gangs you listed. The article was about how ms-13 is increasing their numbers and territory in Jersey; when I see a bloods and crips article I ll be sure to post. 
    Ok, I don't think any of us are experts on the exact number of gangs in our states unless you work in LE so I wouldn't think you would know for sure how big of an impact they or any other gang have in your specific city, but you specifically said Trump was right and that it was downplayed. It wasn't downplayed that MS-13 is a bad gang, what got downplayed was it being used as the reason for a wall and his whole "bad hombres" talk. Yes, any MS-13 member who has illegally entered this country is a problem, but making it sound like thousands of them are pouring across the border on a regular basis so we need to build a wall is a lie and being used as a fear mongering tactic.

    That's great that they ran a story on MS-13, have you researched the gang activity of your area to see how much of a threat they are as opposed to other gangs? For the most part all gangs are bad, but I would be wondering a bit more about why all of a sudden this story is getting press a few weeks before an election in a state that has an upstart Republican candidate looking to knock off the incumbent democrat mired in some corruption scandals.

    Here is what the data on gangs in NJ said in 2010:


    https://www.njsp.org/info/pdf/gangs_in_nj_2010.pdf

    I could not find anything newer than that, but this article had more current information and was more straight forward.
    https://www.nj.com/essex/index.ssf/2018/08/how_many_ms-13_members_are_in_us_nj.html

    Great info. Thank you. 

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    oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,828
    unsung said:
    njnancy said:
    unsung said:
    ban free speech!!!
    Free speech is protected. Hate Speech is not. You are either part of the problem or part of the solution. 



    Too bad so many of those darlings on the right have taken to suing those they disagree with. Not even claiming hate speech, mind you; just things they don't want said.

    Jason Miller, former Trump communications adviser, is suing the journalists who reported on the court filings in his custody battle. As the article says, he is "unlikely to prevail", as it is generally accepted that journalists are allowed to report on court proceedings, but that hasn't stopped him.

    Jordan Peterson, too, has attempted to sue a university and threatened to sue a journalist who called his work misogynistic. Snowflake much?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/22/opinion/free-speech-metoo-lawsuits-snowflakes.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,315
    unsung said:
    njnancy said:
    unsung said:
    ban free speech!!!
    Free speech is protected. Hate Speech is not. You are either part of the problem or part of the solution. 



    Too bad so many of those darlings on the right have taken to suing those they disagree with. Not even claiming hate speech, mind you; just things they don't want said.

    Jason Miller, former Trump communications adviser, is suing the journalists who reported on the court filings in his custody battle. As the article says, he is "unlikely to prevail", as it is generally accepted that journalists are allowed to report on court proceedings, but that hasn't stopped him.

    Jordan Peterson, too, has attempted to sue a university and threatened to sue a journalist who called his work misogynistic. Snowflake much?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/22/opinion/free-speech-metoo-lawsuits-snowflakes.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
    Jason Miller....yet another conservative family values hypocrite. That custody case stems from an affair he had, outside of his marriage, with another Trump media person during the '16 campaign. These people are all terrible 
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    unsung said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Trump declares himself a nationalist... well we all knew he acted like one,  but now the mask is off.    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/412649-trump-you-know-what-i-am-im-a-nationalist

    Reminds me of the quote by DeGaulle.  More befitting words are rarely spoken

     "Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first."
    My home country should be my priority.  Oh no, I’m not a globalist either.

    Your home country is not your priority.  You have proven yourself to be self-centered and give two shits about your country.  You only care about self.  But to your point - why stop at country?  

    My self should be my priority.
    My home should be my priority.
    My hometown should be my priority.
    My state should be my priority.
    My country should be my priority.
    My continent should be my priority.  
    My hemisphere should be my priority.  
    My globe should be my priority.
    My planet is my home.
    Preservation of the planet is preservation of self. 

    But you can't see past the nose on your face, can you?


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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,986
    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Trump declares himself a nationalist... well we all knew he acted like one,  but now the mask is off.    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/412649-trump-you-know-what-i-am-im-a-nationalist

    Reminds me of the quote by DeGaulle.  More befitting words are rarely spoken

     "Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first."
    My home country should be my priority.  Oh no, I’m not a globalist either.

    Your home country is not your priority.  You have proven yourself to be self-centered and give two shits about your country.  You only care about self.  But to your point - why stop at country?  

    My self should be my priority.
    My home should be my priority.
    My hometown should be my priority.
    My state should be my priority.
    My country should be my priority.
    My continent should be my priority.  
    My hemisphere should be my priority.  
    My globe should be my priority.
    My planet is my home.
    Preservation of the planet is preservation of self. 

    But you can't see past the nose on your face, can you?


    sums it up nicely
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    unsung said:
    njnancy said:
    unsung said:
    ban free speech!!!
    Free speech is protected. Hate Speech is not. You are either part of the problem or part of the solution. 



    Too bad so many of those darlings on the right have taken to suing those they disagree with. Not even claiming hate speech, mind you; just things they don't want said.

    Jason Miller, former Trump communications adviser, is suing the journalists who reported on the court filings in his custody battle. As the article says, he is "unlikely to prevail", as it is generally accepted that journalists are allowed to report on court proceedings, but that hasn't stopped him.

    Jordan Peterson, too, has attempted to sue a university and threatened to sue a journalist who called his work misogynistic. Snowflake much?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/22/opinion/free-speech-metoo-lawsuits-snowflakes.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
    Jason Miller....yet another conservative family values hypocrite. That custody case stems from an affair he had, outside of his marriage, with another Trump media person during the '16 campaign. These people are all terrible 
    Not only that but he impregnated his girlfriend and then gave her a drug in a smoothie to induce an abortion, which she had and almost died from complications. Nice guy that Jason Miller. Real defender of life. Proud repub and Team Trump Treason supporter. Oh, and he met his girlfriend at a strip club. Incel? Couldn't he just have gotten a divorce like Junior Mints?
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,561
    mrussel1 said:
    unsung said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Trump declares himself a nationalist... well we all knew he acted like one,  but now the mask is off.    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/412649-trump-you-know-what-i-am-im-a-nationalist

    Reminds me of the quote by DeGaulle.  More befitting words are rarely spoken

     "Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first."
    My home country should be my priority.  Oh no, I’m not a globalist either.
    I think it's abundantly clear that Trump is a nationalist using DeGaulle's definition... that is unless the country in question offers Trump or his family a clear financial benefit.  Then inherent prejudices can be overlooked. 
    There was a group of "nationalists" that formed in Germany in the late 1920s.



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    unsung said:
    njnancy said:
    unsung said:
    ban free speech!!!
    Free speech is protected. Hate Speech is not. You are either part of the problem or part of the solution. 



    Too bad so many of those darlings on the right have taken to suing those they disagree with. Not even claiming hate speech, mind you; just things they don't want said.

    Jason Miller, former Trump communications adviser, is suing the journalists who reported on the court filings in his custody battle. As the article says, he is "unlikely to prevail", as it is generally accepted that journalists are allowed to report on court proceedings, but that hasn't stopped him.

    Jordan Peterson, too, has attempted to sue a university and threatened to sue a journalist who called his work misogynistic. Snowflake much?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/22/opinion/free-speech-metoo-lawsuits-snowflakes.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
    Wow.

    What a hunk of shit.
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    LizardLizard So Cal Posts: 12,073
    Great info. Thank you. 

    Did you find anything on The Van Buren Boys? I hear they are some tough cookies....

    :lol:   

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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    Here's a nice tune for one of those RALLIES.





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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    My personal experience with the Hells Angels-MC?  They literally saved my sorry ass one day...but, then again, I get along with EVERYONE. 

    Your mileage may vary.
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    I'm down with the Patriots and not the Nationalists.


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    unsung said:
    njnancy said:
    unsung said:
    ban free speech!!!
    Free speech is protected. Hate Speech is not. You are either part of the problem or part of the solution. 



    Too bad so many of those darlings on the right have taken to suing those they disagree with. Not even claiming hate speech, mind you; just things they don't want said.

    Jason Miller, former Trump communications adviser, is suing the journalists who reported on the court filings in his custody battle. As the article says, he is "unlikely to prevail", as it is generally accepted that journalists are allowed to report on court proceedings, but that hasn't stopped him.

    Jordan Peterson, too, has attempted to sue a university and threatened to sue a journalist who called his work misogynistic. Snowflake much?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/22/opinion/free-speech-metoo-lawsuits-snowflakes.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
    Remember when repubs were all about legal reform? You know, reforming the legal system to keep you from suing for personal injury or taking a business or corporation to court? Allowing for the change in commercial and consumer contracts to arbritrate rather than file a law suite? Remember that?
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,678
    Yeah for patriots.  Fuck the Patriots.
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    I used to feel that way about the Cowboys.
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    (american) football sucks and no team will ever be better than the '85 Bears
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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Well, I agree with that.
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,561
    Tiki said:
    I'm down with the Patriots and not the Nationalists.


    Like these nationalists?...

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    Meanwhile, seems the Team Trump Treason supporters and their hate filled rhetoric has taken hold. Proud?

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/george-soros-bomb-latest-house-police-explosive-new-york-security-fbi-nypd-a8597651.html

    But fear the liberal mob.
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    Tiki said:
    I'm down with the Patriots and not the Nationalists.


    Like these nationalists?...

    those are the ones...
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    unsung said:
    Well, I agree with that.
    holy shiat?! we actually agree on something?!



    there's hope for you yet
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    Hail Trump-ler.


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    Tiki said:

    He'd crumple like a three dollar suit. Not that I advocate for that though. Better check your mail box, though. Personally, I prefer the Team Mueller report and confirmation of the PTape via a copy kept by Cohen after putin on the ritz had it hand delivered. And if Cohen has a copy, others have a copy.
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    Tiki said:


    The pose when Team Trump Treason is cornered in the ally outside Team Trump Treason Tower (4 Ts if you’re counting at home) and Team Mueller yells, “freeze!”
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