Because when I think of a person or organization fucking things up and I want to express my concern for same, I immediately think of “monkeying up.” Particularly if the one fucking things up is a white guy. The guy wants to be governor of the state for crying out loud. Team Trump Treason’s ethos has really trickled down.
no, it hasn't. I just don't happen to accuse everyone of one political persuasion a racist/misogynist/bigot/etc.
it’s not done in a vacuum. Team Trump Treason and his administration is pretty openly racist. But hey, to each their own. From Team Trump Treason’s tweet regarding “socialists” to the repube governor candidate using “monkey up” with “socialist,” it’s pretty clear to me the comparison being made. He didn’t use any one of the following, “screw this up,” “fuck this up,” “F this up,” “mess this up,” or, “blow this up.” He said, “monkey this up.” Why do you think that was? When referencing the first black democrat candidate for governor of Florida?
I can't claim to know for sure. But you go ahead and assume the worst.
Yeah, but dude, you need to acknowledge he was talking specifically about voting for his opponent, a black dude.
I am making zero assumptions in stating the GOP nominee for FL gov used a racially sensitive word regarding a topic directly related to a black man
Because when I think of a person or organization fucking things up and I want to express my concern for same, I immediately think of “monkeying up.” Particularly if the one fucking things up is a white guy. The guy wants to be governor of the state for crying out loud. Team Trump Treason’s ethos has really trickled down.
no, it hasn't. I just don't happen to accuse everyone of one political persuasion a racist/misogynist/bigot/etc.
it’s not done in a vacuum. Team Trump Treason and his administration is pretty openly racist. But hey, to each their own. From Team Trump Treason’s tweet regarding “socialists” to the repube governor candidate using “monkey up” with “socialist,” it’s pretty clear to me the comparison being made. He didn’t use any one of the following, “screw this up,” “fuck this up,” “F this up,” “mess this up,” or, “blow this up.” He said, “monkey this up.” Why do you think that was? When referencing the first black democrat candidate for governor of Florida?
I can't claim to know for sure. But you go ahead and assume the worst.
Yeah, but dude, you need to acknowledge he was talking specifically about voting for his opponent, a black dude.
I am making zero assumptions in stating the GOP nominee for FL gov used a racially sensitive word regarding a topic directly related to a black man
I acknowledge that fully and completely. what few others are acknowleding is that the phrase can be used in a different context. he also didn't compare black people to monkeys. he wasn't even speaking directly about his opponent. he was speaking to his platform and how those policies can severely damage the state. believe me, before I commented I made sure to read and re-read the direct quote. maybe others should too.
Because when I think of a person or organization fucking things up and I want to express my concern for same, I immediately think of “monkeying up.” Particularly if the one fucking things up is a white guy. The guy wants to be governor of the state for crying out loud. Team Trump Treason’s ethos has really trickled down.
no, it hasn't. I just don't happen to accuse everyone of one political persuasion a racist/misogynist/bigot/etc.
it’s not done in a vacuum. Team Trump Treason and his administration is pretty openly racist. But hey, to each their own. From Team Trump Treason’s tweet regarding “socialists” to the repube governor candidate using “monkey up” with “socialist,” it’s pretty clear to me the comparison being made. He didn’t use any one of the following, “screw this up,” “fuck this up,” “F this up,” “mess this up,” or, “blow this up.” He said, “monkey this up.” Why do you think that was? When referencing the first black democrat candidate for governor of Florida?
I can't claim to know for sure. But you go ahead and assume the worst.
Yeah, but dude, you need to acknowledge he was talking specifically about voting for his opponent, a black dude.
I am making zero assumptions in stating the GOP nominee for FL gov used a racially sensitive word regarding a topic directly related to a black man
I acknowledge that fully and completely. what few others are acknowleding is that the phrase can be used in a different context. he also didn't compare black people to monkeys. he wasn't even speaking directly about his opponent. he was speaking to his platform and how those policies can severely damage the state. believe me, before I commented I made sure to read and re-read the direct quote. maybe others should too.
Except with all the various ways he could have expressed his point, he chose “monkey up.”
Because when I think of a person or organization fucking things up and I want to express my concern for same, I immediately think of “monkeying up.” Particularly if the one fucking things up is a white guy. The guy wants to be governor of the state for crying out loud. Team Trump Treason’s ethos has really trickled down.
no, it hasn't. I just don't happen to accuse everyone of one political persuasion a racist/misogynist/bigot/etc.
it’s not done in a vacuum. Team Trump Treason and his administration is pretty openly racist. But hey, to each their own. From Team Trump Treason’s tweet regarding “socialists” to the repube governor candidate using “monkey up” with “socialist,” it’s pretty clear to me the comparison being made. He didn’t use any one of the following, “screw this up,” “fuck this up,” “F this up,” “mess this up,” or, “blow this up.” He said, “monkey this up.” Why do you think that was? When referencing the first black democrat candidate for governor of Florida?
I can't claim to know for sure. But you go ahead and assume the worst.
Yeah, but dude, you need to acknowledge he was talking specifically about voting for his opponent, a black dude.
I am making zero assumptions in stating the GOP nominee for FL gov used a racially sensitive word regarding a topic directly related to a black man
I acknowledge that fully and completely. what few others are acknowleding is that the phrase can be used in a different context. he also didn't compare black people to monkeys. he wasn't even speaking directly about his opponent. he was speaking to his platform and how those policies can severely damage the state. believe me, before I commented I made sure to read and re-read the direct quote. maybe others should too.
Except with all the various ways he could have expressed his point, he chose “monkey up.”
which proves basically nothing. it's a common phrase.
Because when I think of a person or organization fucking things up and I want to express my concern for same, I immediately think of “monkeying up.” Particularly if the one fucking things up is a white guy. The guy wants to be governor of the state for crying out loud. Team Trump Treason’s ethos has really trickled down.
no, it hasn't. I just don't happen to accuse everyone of one political persuasion a racist/misogynist/bigot/etc.
it’s not done in a vacuum. Team Trump Treason and his administration is pretty openly racist. But hey, to each their own. From Team Trump Treason’s tweet regarding “socialists” to the repube governor candidate using “monkey up” with “socialist,” it’s pretty clear to me the comparison being made. He didn’t use any one of the following, “screw this up,” “fuck this up,” “F this up,” “mess this up,” or, “blow this up.” He said, “monkey this up.” Why do you think that was? When referencing the first black democrat candidate for governor of Florida?
I can't claim to know for sure. But you go ahead and assume the worst.
Yeah, but dude, you need to acknowledge he was talking specifically about voting for his opponent, a black dude.
I am making zero assumptions in stating the GOP nominee for FL gov used a racially sensitive word regarding a topic directly related to a black man
I acknowledge that fully and completely. what few others are acknowleding is that the phrase can be used in a different context. he also didn't compare black people to monkeys. he wasn't even speaking directly about his opponent. he was speaking to his platform and how those policies can severely damage the state. believe me, before I commented I made sure to read and re-read the direct quote. maybe others should too.
Agreed. He called nobody a monkey, and I really think it was just an innocent comment .... We seem to be learning that you can never, ever, ever say the word "monkey" near black people, or in any context that may somehow include a black person, directly or indirectly. God help anyone who actually sees a monkey and mentions it near a black person. I dunno, frankly, the reaction in cases like this almost seems more racist than the comments people are reacting to.
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Because when I think of a person or organization fucking things up and I want to express my concern for same, I immediately think of “monkeying up.” Particularly if the one fucking things up is a white guy. The guy wants to be governor of the state for crying out loud. Team Trump Treason’s ethos has really trickled down.
no, it hasn't. I just don't happen to accuse everyone of one political persuasion a racist/misogynist/bigot/etc.
it’s not done in a vacuum. Team Trump Treason and his administration is pretty openly racist. But hey, to each their own. From Team Trump Treason’s tweet regarding “socialists” to the repube governor candidate using “monkey up” with “socialist,” it’s pretty clear to me the comparison being made. He didn’t use any one of the following, “screw this up,” “fuck this up,” “F this up,” “mess this up,” or, “blow this up.” He said, “monkey this up.” Why do you think that was? When referencing the first black democrat candidate for governor of Florida?
I can't claim to know for sure. But you go ahead and assume the worst.
Yeah, but dude, you need to acknowledge he was talking specifically about voting for his opponent, a black dude.
I am making zero assumptions in stating the GOP nominee for FL gov used a racially sensitive word regarding a topic directly related to a black man
I acknowledge that fully and completely. what few others are acknowleding is that the phrase can be used in a different context. he also didn't compare black people to monkeys. he wasn't even speaking directly about his opponent. he was speaking to his platform and how those policies can severely damage the state. believe me, before I commented I made sure to read and re-read the direct quote. maybe others should too.
Except with all the various ways he could have expressed his point, he chose “monkey up.”
That really means nothing. Maybe it's a really common phrase for him. Until I have a real reason to think it was a deliberate slur (and come on... why in the hell would he do that??), I'm going to assume it was just a random phrase that he uses.
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People play the racism card a lot these days (much of it is indeed warranted, btw), so it make sense to be a little skeptical like Hugh is here.
But in this case, I think it's pretty obvious what's going on.
People play the racism card a lot these days (much of it is indeed warranted, btw), so it make sense to be a little skeptical like Hugh is here.
But in this case, I think it's pretty obvious what's going on.
Do you? I don't. Maybe I'm being naive, but why in the world would this guy do such a thing? There is literally NO benefit for him, and the harm it would cause would be predictable. I'm not saying it's impossible ... i just don't have any reason to assume it was racist, with the info I have.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Because when I think of a person or organization fucking things up and I want to express my concern for same, I immediately think of “monkeying up.” Particularly if the one fucking things up is a white guy. The guy wants to be governor of the state for crying out loud. Team Trump Treason’s ethos has really trickled down.
no, it hasn't. I just don't happen to accuse everyone of one political persuasion a racist/misogynist/bigot/etc.
it’s not done in a vacuum. Team Trump Treason and his administration is pretty openly racist. But hey, to each their own. From Team Trump Treason’s tweet regarding “socialists” to the repube governor candidate using “monkey up” with “socialist,” it’s pretty clear to me the comparison being made. He didn’t use any one of the following, “screw this up,” “fuck this up,” “F this up,” “mess this up,” or, “blow this up.” He said, “monkey this up.” Why do you think that was? When referencing the first black democrat candidate for governor of Florida?
I can't claim to know for sure. But you go ahead and assume the worst.
Yeah, but dude, you need to acknowledge he was talking specifically about voting for his opponent, a black dude.
I am making zero assumptions in stating the GOP nominee for FL gov used a racially sensitive word regarding a topic directly related to a black man
I acknowledge that fully and completely. what few others are acknowleding is that the phrase can be used in a different context. he also didn't compare black people to monkeys. he wasn't even speaking directly about his opponent. he was speaking to his platform and how those policies can severely damage the state. believe me, before I commented I made sure to read and re-read the direct quote. maybe others should too.
Except with all the various ways he could have expressed his point, he chose “monkey up.”
That really means nothing. Maybe it's a really common phrase for him. Until I have a real reason to think it was a deliberate slur (and come on... why in the hell would he do that??), I'm going to assume it was just a random phrase that he uses.
A really common phrase for a racist. In all of the years I’ve been on this planet, in all different locations and situations, and around a whole slew of different people with all kinds of different backgrounds, including southern racists, not once have I heard the phrase, “monkey up,” used to relate to making a mess of things, and particularly not used in reference to a black man.
People play the racism card a lot these days (much of it is indeed warranted, btw), so it make sense to be a little skeptical like Hugh is here.
But in this case, I think it's pretty obvious what's going on.
Do you? I don't. Maybe I'm being naive, but why in the world would this guy do such a thing? There is literally NO benefit for him, and the harm it would cause would be predictable. I'm not saying it's impossible ... i just don't have any reason to assume it was racist, with the info I have.
Yes. Just the way I took it.
DeSantis has been a huge Maga Trump lap dog. This kind of thing actually plays well with that 30% deplorable base that Trump stokes every day. It's bizarro world with those people. So, yeah, I would not put this past him..
Because when I think of a person or organization fucking things up and I want to express my concern for same, I immediately think of “monkeying up.” Particularly if the one fucking things up is a white guy. The guy wants to be governor of the state for crying out loud. Team Trump Treason’s ethos has really trickled down.
no, it hasn't. I just don't happen to accuse everyone of one political persuasion a racist/misogynist/bigot/etc.
it’s not done in a vacuum. Team Trump Treason and his administration is pretty openly racist. But hey, to each their own. From Team Trump Treason’s tweet regarding “socialists” to the repube governor candidate using “monkey up” with “socialist,” it’s pretty clear to me the comparison being made. He didn’t use any one of the following, “screw this up,” “fuck this up,” “F this up,” “mess this up,” or, “blow this up.” He said, “monkey this up.” Why do you think that was? When referencing the first black democrat candidate for governor of Florida?
I can't claim to know for sure. But you go ahead and assume the worst.
Yeah, but dude, you need to acknowledge he was talking specifically about voting for his opponent, a black dude.
I am making zero assumptions in stating the GOP nominee for FL gov used a racially sensitive word regarding a topic directly related to a black man
I acknowledge that fully and completely. what few others are acknowleding is that the phrase can be used in a different context. he also didn't compare black people to monkeys. he wasn't even speaking directly about his opponent. he was speaking to his platform and how those policies can severely damage the state. believe me, before I commented I made sure to read and re-read the direct quote. maybe others should too.
Except with all the various ways he could have expressed his point, he chose “monkey up.”
That really means nothing. Maybe it's a really common phrase for him. Until I have a real reason to think it was a deliberate slur (and come on... why in the hell would he do that??), I'm going to assume it was just a random phrase that he uses.
A really common phrase for a racist. In all of the years I’ve been on this planet, in all different locations and situations, and around a whole slew of different people with all kinds of different backgrounds, including southern racists, not once have I heard the phrase, “monkey up,” used to relate to making a mess of things, and particularly not used in reference to a black man.
#bebetter
I completely disagree, and while it's not a common term, it doesn't strike me as very unusual either. It's just too close to "monkeying around" for it to be that weird. I think you're taking the term and running in wild directions with it... hey, almost like a monkey, lol. At all. In any case, isn't it prudent to err on the side of caution when accusing someone of such an act, when you are going on nothing but pure conjecture and the fact that you happen to think "monkeying up" something is a weird term?? Again, anything's possible, but given the fact that saying such a thing as a racial slur only serves to predictably hurt this guy, I think it makes more sense to give him the benefit of the doubt until there is a real reason not to, i.e. a history of throwing out random, sideways, subtle racial slurs like that. Honestly, what you think happened seems like the most unrealistic possibility. Not impossible, but unlikely...... But hey, if you're right, that is some really sly pathological racism the likes of which I've never actually encountered.
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I will have to side with Juggler and Hailifax on this one...
I myself use the phrase little monkey, but I'm referring to my dog...she acts like a little monkey sometimes.
I still don't get it. I have no clue why any of you are just assuming it was a racial slur. 100 people could come and say the same thing, and I still wouldn't get why that's the immediate assumption, all things considered.
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I will have to side with Juggler and Hailifax on this one...
I myself use the phrase little monkey, but I'm referring to my dog...she acts like a little monkey sometimes.
I still don't get it. I have no clue why any of you are just assuming it was a racial slur. 100 people could come and say the same thing, and I still wouldn't get why that's the immediate assumption, all things considered.
Are those 100 people trying to court Trump's 30% deplorable base though?
I will have to side with Juggler and Hailifax on this one...
I myself use the phrase little monkey, but I'm referring to my dog...she acts like a little monkey sometimes.
I still don't get it. I have no clue why any of you are just assuming it was a racial slur. 100 people could come and say the same thing, and I still wouldn't get why that's the immediate assumption, all things considered.
Are those 100 people trying to court Trump's 30% deplorable base though?
The only reason that matters is because it gives people a reason to feel more sure about their assumption. I just think it seems a little paranoid to automatically assume it was a racial slur.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Because when I think of a person or organization fucking things up and I want to express my concern for same, I immediately think of “monkeying up.” Particularly if the one fucking things up is a white guy. The guy wants to be governor of the state for crying out loud. Team Trump Treason’s ethos has really trickled down.
no, it hasn't. I just don't happen to accuse everyone of one political persuasion a racist/misogynist/bigot/etc.
it’s not done in a vacuum. Team Trump Treason and his administration is pretty openly racist. But hey, to each their own. From Team Trump Treason’s tweet regarding “socialists” to the repube governor candidate using “monkey up” with “socialist,” it’s pretty clear to me the comparison being made. He didn’t use any one of the following, “screw this up,” “fuck this up,” “F this up,” “mess this up,” or, “blow this up.” He said, “monkey this up.” Why do you think that was? When referencing the first black democrat candidate for governor of Florida?
I can't claim to know for sure. But you go ahead and assume the worst.
Yeah, but dude, you need to acknowledge he was talking specifically about voting for his opponent, a black dude.
I am making zero assumptions in stating the GOP nominee for FL gov used a racially sensitive word regarding a topic directly related to a black man
I acknowledge that fully and completely. what few others are acknowleding is that the phrase can be used in a different context. he also didn't compare black people to monkeys. he wasn't even speaking directly about his opponent. he was speaking to his platform and how those policies can severely damage the state. believe me, before I commented I made sure to read and re-read the direct quote. maybe others should too.
Except with all the various ways he could have expressed his point, he chose “monkey up.”
That really means nothing. Maybe it's a really common phrase for him. Until I have a real reason to think it was a deliberate slur (and come on... why in the hell would he do that??), I'm going to assume it was just a random phrase that he uses.
A really common phrase for a racist. In all of the years I’ve been on this planet, in all different locations and situations, and around a whole slew of different people with all kinds of different backgrounds, including southern racists, not once have I heard the phrase, “monkey up,” used to relate to making a mess of things, and particularly not used in reference to a black man.
#bebetter
I completely disagree, and while it's not a common term, it doesn't strike me as very unusual either. It's just too close to "monkeying around" for it to be that weird. I think you're taking the term and running in wild directions with it... hey, almost like a monkey, lol. At all. In any case, isn't it prudent to err on the side of caution when accusing someone of such an act, when you are going on nothing but pure conjecture and the fact that you happen to think "monkeying up" something is a weird term?? Again, anything's possible, but given the fact that saying such a thing as a racial slur only serves to predictably hurt this guy, I think it makes more sense to give him the benefit of the doubt until there is a real reason not to, i.e. a history of throwing out random, sideways, subtle racial slurs like that. Honestly, what you think happened seems like the most unrealistic possibility. Not impossible, but unlikely...... But hey, if you're right, that is some really sly pathological racism the likes of which I've never actually encountered.
Faux News felt it necessary to qualify his statement. Referencing monkeys or apes to black people has a long sordid history.
Later in the hour, the Fox News anchor read the DeSantis camp statement and felt the need to address his remarks, saying “We do not condone this language and wanted to make our viewers aware that he has since clarified his statement.”
I will have to side with Juggler and Hailifax on this one...
I myself use the phrase little monkey, but I'm referring to my dog...she acts like a little monkey sometimes.
I still don't get it. I have no clue why any of you are just assuming it was a racial slur. 100 people could come and say the same thing, and I still wouldn't get why that's the immediate assumption, all things considered.
Are those 100 people trying to court Trump's 30% deplorable base though?
The only reason that matters is because it gives people a reason to feel more sure about their assumption. I just think it seems a little paranoid to automatically assume it was a racial slur.
My assumption is largely based on who he is and who is trying to appeal to.
I will have to side with Juggler and Hailifax on this one...
I myself use the phrase little monkey, but I'm referring to my dog...she acts like a little monkey sometimes.
I still don't get it. I have no clue why any of you are just assuming it was a racial slur. 100 people could come and say the same thing, and I still wouldn't get why that's the immediate assumption, all things considered.
Juggler pointed out he is a trump lap dog ... not sure he deserves the benefit of the doubt ... for example if the Ohio governor had said the same thing, Id give him the benefit of the doubt...but I could be wrong.
Because when I think of a person or organization fucking things up and I want to express my concern for same, I immediately think of “monkeying up.” Particularly if the one fucking things up is a white guy. The guy wants to be governor of the state for crying out loud. Team Trump Treason’s ethos has really trickled down.
no, it hasn't. I just don't happen to accuse everyone of one political persuasion a racist/misogynist/bigot/etc.
it’s not done in a vacuum. Team Trump Treason and his administration is pretty openly racist. But hey, to each their own. From Team Trump Treason’s tweet regarding “socialists” to the repube governor candidate using “monkey up” with “socialist,” it’s pretty clear to me the comparison being made. He didn’t use any one of the following, “screw this up,” “fuck this up,” “F this up,” “mess this up,” or, “blow this up.” He said, “monkey this up.” Why do you think that was? When referencing the first black democrat candidate for governor of Florida?
I can't claim to know for sure. But you go ahead and assume the worst.
Yeah, but dude, you need to acknowledge he was talking specifically about voting for his opponent, a black dude.
I am making zero assumptions in stating the GOP nominee for FL gov used a racially sensitive word regarding a topic directly related to a black man
I acknowledge that fully and completely. what few others are acknowleding is that the phrase can be used in a different context. he also didn't compare black people to monkeys. he wasn't even speaking directly about his opponent. he was speaking to his platform and how those policies can severely damage the state. believe me, before I commented I made sure to read and re-read the direct quote. maybe others should too.
Except with all the various ways he could have expressed his point, he chose “monkey up.”
That really means nothing. Maybe it's a really common phrase for him. Until I have a real reason to think it was a deliberate slur (and come on... why in the hell would he do that??), I'm going to assume it was just a random phrase that he uses.
A really common phrase for a racist. In all of the years I’ve been on this planet, in all different locations and situations, and around a whole slew of different people with all kinds of different backgrounds, including southern racists, not once have I heard the phrase, “monkey up,” used to relate to making a mess of things, and particularly not used in reference to a black man.
#bebetter
I completely disagree, and while it's not a common term, it doesn't strike me as very unusual either. It's just too close to "monkeying around" for it to be that weird. I think you're taking the term and running in wild directions with it... hey, almost like a monkey, lol. At all. In any case, isn't it prudent to err on the side of caution when accusing someone of such an act, when you are going on nothing but pure conjecture and the fact that you happen to think "monkeying up" something is a weird term?? Again, anything's possible, but given the fact that saying such a thing as a racial slur only serves to predictably hurt this guy, I think it makes more sense to give him the benefit of the doubt until there is a real reason not to, i.e. a history of throwing out random, sideways, subtle racial slurs like that. Honestly, what you think happened seems like the most unrealistic possibility. Not impossible, but unlikely...... But hey, if you're right, that is some really sly pathological racism the likes of which I've never actually encountered.
Faux News felt it necessary to qualify his statement. Referencing monkeys or apes to black people has a long sordid history.
Later in the hour, the Fox News anchor read the DeSantis camp statement and felt the need to address his remarks, saying “We do not condone this language and wanted to make our viewers aware that he has since clarified his statement.”
It's not like I don't understand why you and a bunch of other people think it was a slur. I just am not willing to assume it is, because to me it seems like a potential big leap. We could spend all day finding words and phrases said by people that COULD be dog whistles... Maybe they are. Again, I'm not saying it's not possible. Or maybe people are just constantly waiting with bated breath for someone in the Trump camp to say something racist so they can jump all over it... If people do that long enough, I think it's inevitable that some random comment gets misinterpreted. Hell, if the person who says it actually IS a racist, that will be even more likely to happen.
Surely you're not suggesting that something Fox News said is suddenly a valid source because you happen to agree with their conjecture in this case? ... And Gillium's take on it isn't any more helpful. Obviously the guy running against him is going to take it and run.
You know, the main issue here is that, if people let this go without any "but maybe it wasn't", then the "other side" will do the same thing against some innocent lefty and nobody can say a damn word about it. It's a bad precedent to be setting IMHO. There are all kinds of other blatant examples of what this guy is being accused of with that comment - why not go after those instead?
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What kind of a goober actually says "monkey ____ up" is what I want to know.
I've never heard the phrase monkey up. I have heard little monkey and monkeying around ... but not all were in a racial context...
I have heard monkey around. I can see how someone, even someone eloquent, could accidentally use that phrase in relation to black people...the thing is though, you'd need to be pretty stupid or racist not to realize what you'd done and correct yourself immediately in real time. So this guy is an idiot at the least.
What kind of a goober actually says "monkey ____ up" is what I want to know.
I've never heard the phrase monkey up. I have heard little monkey and monkeying around ... but not all were in a racial context...
Have you ever heard "monkeying around" said in a racial context?? I've personally never heard anyone ever come close to using "monkey" in a that context, period.... To be honest, I've never heard anyone use any racial slur against black people, like in real life, unless they were quoting someone they saw do it or something. I had a great grandmother who reportedly said, "Oh, look at the cute little (P-word)!" about a little black kid in an all white town, but that was back in 1958 or so. (That said, yes, I am still fully aware of the racial problems going on, and have known black Americans who talked to me all about it - they were in Canada specifically to escape it. So I do know people do it).
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What kind of a goober actually says "monkey ____ up" is what I want to know.
I've never heard the phrase monkey up. I have heard little monkey and monkeying around ... but not all were in a racial context...
Have you ever heard "monkeying around" said in a racial context?? I've personally never heard anyone ever come close to using "monkey" in a that context, period.... To be honest, I've never heard anyone use any racial slur against black people, like in real life, unless they were quoting someone they saw do it or something. I had a great grandmother who reportedly said, "Oh, look at the cute little (P-word)!" about a little black kid in an all white town, but that was back in 1958 or so. (That said, yes, I am still fully aware of the racial problems going on, and have known black Americans who talked to me all about it - they were in Canada specifically to escape it. So I do know people do it).
What kind of a goober actually says "monkey ____ up" is what I want to know.
I've never heard the phrase monkey up. I have heard little monkey and monkeying around ... but not all were in a racial context...
Have you ever heard "monkeying around" said in a racial context?? I've personally never heard anyone ever come close to using "monkey" in a that context, period.... To be honest, I've never heard anyone use any racial slur against black people, like in real life, unless they were quoting someone they saw do it or something. I had a great grandmother who reportedly said, "Oh, look at the cute little (P-word)!" about a little black kid in an all white town, but that was back in 1958 or so. (That said, yes, I am still fully aware of the racial problems going on, and have known black Americans who talked to me all about it - they were in Canada specifically to escape it. So I do know people do it).
What’s the P word for black people?
Starts with a pick and ends with a y.
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What kind of a goober actually says "monkey ____ up" is what I want to know.
I've never heard the phrase monkey up. I have heard little monkey and monkeying around ... but not all were in a racial context...
Have you ever heard "monkeying around" said in a racial context?? I've personally never heard anyone ever come close to using "monkey" in a that context, period.... To be honest, I've never heard anyone use any racial slur against black people, like in real life, unless they were quoting someone they saw do it or something. I had a great grandmother who reportedly said, "Oh, look at the cute little (P-word)!" about a little black kid in an all white town, but that was back in 1958 or so. (That said, yes, I am still fully aware of the racial problems going on, and have known black Americans who talked to me all about it - they were in Canada specifically to escape it. So I do know people do it).
I grew up surrounded by every racial slur you can imagine, porch monkeys was a big one. "N***** rig it" was probably the most common. Hell, I heard a middle school teacher say it once! I was recently warned (by a retired home economics lady teacher) not to go to Kennywood Amusement Park because "the blacks have taken it over. They push white people out of line and start fights" Later, when we were gently mocking it's very dubious nature, she doubled down and said it was easy to believe because the same thing happened at Strolling N*****s Mall (Rolling Acres Mall) That lady is someone I love dearly and she's a great person who would never actually mistreat a black person without reason. That's what people don't understand about casual racism in America, it's not like we have tens of millions of evil people. They aren't evil, just ignorant and stubborn.
This is why I laugh my ass off when the professor from Canada, Mr BS claims to know what an average Trump voter is, and better than any of us. What a joke lol
If you haven't ever been told to "n***** rig it" or been accused upon late entry of living on "BPT" (black people time)...you don't know shit about the average Trump voter/supporter.
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Yeah, but dude, you need to acknowledge he was talking specifically about voting for his opponent, a black dude.
I am making zero assumptions in stating the GOP nominee for FL gov used a racially sensitive word regarding a topic directly related to a black man
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-conversation-africa/comparing-black-people-to_b_9345322.html
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Agreed. He called nobody a monkey, and I really think it was just an innocent comment .... We seem to be learning that you can never, ever, ever say the word "monkey" near black people, or in any context that may somehow include a black person, directly or indirectly. God help anyone who actually sees a monkey and mentions it near a black person.
But in this case, I think it's pretty obvious what's going on.
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DeSantis has been a huge Maga Trump lap dog. This kind of thing actually plays well with that 30% deplorable base that Trump stokes every day. It's bizarro world with those people. So, yeah, I would not put this past him..
I myself use the phrase little monkey, but I'm referring to my dog...she acts like a little monkey sometimes.
I just think it seems a little paranoid to automatically assume it was a racial slur.
Later in the hour, the Fox News anchor read the DeSantis camp statement and felt the need to address his remarks, saying “We do not condone this language and wanted to make our viewers aware that he has since clarified his statement.”
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/desantis-floridians-monkey-electing-african-american-democrat-governor/story?id=57476957
And its called a dog whistle.
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Surely you're not suggesting that something Fox News said is suddenly a valid source because you happen to agree with their conjecture in this case? ... And Gillium's take on it isn't any more helpful. Obviously the guy running against him is going to take it and run.
You know, the main issue here is that, if people let this go without any "but maybe it wasn't", then the "other side" will do the same thing against some innocent lefty and nobody can say a damn word about it. It's a bad precedent to be setting IMHO. There are all kinds of other blatant examples of what this guy is being accused of with that comment - why not go after those instead?
So this guy is an idiot at the least.
U.S. is denying passports to Americans along the border, throwing their citizenship into question
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The quote in reference was "monkey things up" but it could easily be "this" "that" "it" or "shit"
I've personally never heard anyone ever come close to using "monkey" in a that context, period.... To be honest, I've never heard anyone use any racial slur against black people, like in real life, unless they were quoting someone they saw do it or something. I had a great grandmother who reportedly said, "Oh, look at the cute little (P-word)!" about a little black kid in an all white town, but that was back in 1958 or so.
(That said, yes, I am still fully aware of the racial problems going on, and have known black Americans who talked to me all about it - they were in Canada specifically to escape it. So I do know people do it).
"N***** rig it" was probably the most common. Hell, I heard a middle school teacher say it once!
I was recently warned (by a retired home economics lady teacher) not to go to Kennywood Amusement Park because "the blacks have taken it over. They push white people out of line and start fights"
Later, when we were gently mocking it's very dubious nature, she doubled down and said it was easy to believe because the same thing happened at Strolling N*****s Mall (Rolling Acres Mall)
That lady is someone I love dearly and she's a great person who would never actually mistreat a black person without reason. That's what people don't understand about casual racism in America, it's not like we have tens of millions of evil people. They aren't evil, just ignorant and stubborn.
This is why I laugh my ass off when the professor from Canada, Mr BS claims to know what an average Trump voter is, and better than any of us. What a joke lol
If you haven't ever been told to "n***** rig it" or been accused upon late entry of living on "BPT" (black people time)...you don't know shit about the average Trump voter/supporter.