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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,581
    It’s just so striking how our president seems so much more at ease with brutal dictators than he does with our democratic allies. 
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,284
    It’s just so striking how our president seems so much more at ease with brutal dictators than he does with our democratic allies. 
    Yep he was honored to meet a ruthless dictator he makes Putin look like Barney we don’t even know how many people have died there in the last 30 yrs !
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,251
    It was a photo opp with a brutal dictator:


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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
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    rgambs said:
    I would like to hear @BS44325 take on the quickly escalating "trade war" Trump has provoked with his home nation.
    It’s a brilliant stroke of brilliant trade negotiating in all its brilliancy, why of course.
    The brilliance is on display right now. This is what I have been talking about since he came down the escalator. Using “crazy” as an advantage. Enjoy the show.
    If Team Trump Treason’s cozying up to a brutal, nuclear armed dictator and giving him the prestige he seeks while simultaneously walking away from a hard fought years long negotiated nuclear deal is your idea of brilliance, you’ve sold your soul to the myth. Enjoy the shit show when nothing comes of it.
    Riiiiight...it was only a few months back that you were whining about “Fire and Fury”, “Little Rocket Man”, and “My button is bigger then your’s and it works”. I know I have been away for a while but I’m pretty amazed that you so quickly transitioned from dove to hawk. You were all cool with making empty deals with Cuba and Iran but on NK you are now the AMT John Bolton! He’s in the room by the way so don’t worry that there is nobody in Singapore is there to argue for your position...which is war I assume? Personally I like Trump’s path of engaging china, tightening sanctions, and military threats to coerce Kim Jung Un to the table followed by graciousness and potential for carrots but I suppose your war idea could work too. Also...your precious Iran deal had to be cancelled for the NK strategy to work. Iran gave up nothing and got a ton. It was a farce. North Korea needed to know that an Iran type deal is off the table.
    Geez, I don’t even have to read half way through your post before you’re beating the war drum. Have I ever advocated for war against North Korea? And that empty nuclear deal with Iran? You mean the one they were abiding by? And what exactly has changed in North Korea, Professor? Other than being showered with praise by a US president?
    You are advocating for war because we are at the point of no return. North Korea missle technology is reaching the point of being able to hit the continental United States. Soon after that they will learn how to mount a nuclear warhead onto one of those missles. You know as well as I that no President can in good conscience allow this. Therefore you are left with two choices 1) Do what Trump is doing or 2) Pre-emptively strike North Korea now. The risk of option 2 is millions dead. The risk of option 1 is giving Kim legitimacy while he cheats on a deal which will then lead to a fall back on option 2. There is potential for option 1 to work...there are small signs such as hostage releases, chinese pressures, positive meetings with South Korea, internal North Korean leadership changes. All of these are baby steps for sure but they are in the right direction. You should pray it succeeds otherwise millions of dead will be the only option you will have left.


    That entire post is BS... millions dead will be the only option left? LOL

    You actually think NK is going to preemptively attack anybody? 

    I just don't understand how so many people are fearful of NK? They are NEVER going to attack ANYBODY, especially the USA 
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,251
    The president is the king of frauds:




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    my2hands said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    rgambs said:
    I would like to hear @BS44325 take on the quickly escalating "trade war" Trump has provoked with his home nation.
    It’s a brilliant stroke of brilliant trade negotiating in all its brilliancy, why of course.
    The brilliance is on display right now. This is what I have been talking about since he came down the escalator. Using “crazy” as an advantage. Enjoy the show.
    If Team Trump Treason’s cozying up to a brutal, nuclear armed dictator and giving him the prestige he seeks while simultaneously walking away from a hard fought years long negotiated nuclear deal is your idea of brilliance, you’ve sold your soul to the myth. Enjoy the shit show when nothing comes of it.
    Riiiiight...it was only a few months back that you were whining about “Fire and Fury”, “Little Rocket Man”, and “My button is bigger then your’s and it works”. I know I have been away for a while but I’m pretty amazed that you so quickly transitioned from dove to hawk. You were all cool with making empty deals with Cuba and Iran but on NK you are now the AMT John Bolton! He’s in the room by the way so don’t worry that there is nobody in Singapore is there to argue for your position...which is war I assume? Personally I like Trump’s path of engaging china, tightening sanctions, and military threats to coerce Kim Jung Un to the table followed by graciousness and potential for carrots but I suppose your war idea could work too. Also...your precious Iran deal had to be cancelled for the NK strategy to work. Iran gave up nothing and got a ton. It was a farce. North Korea needed to know that an Iran type deal is off the table.
    Geez, I don’t even have to read half way through your post before you’re beating the war drum. Have I ever advocated for war against North Korea? And that empty nuclear deal with Iran? You mean the one they were abiding by? And what exactly has changed in North Korea, Professor? Other than being showered with praise by a US president?
    You are advocating for war because we are at the point of no return. North Korea missle technology is reaching the point of being able to hit the continental United States. Soon after that they will learn how to mount a nuclear warhead onto one of those missles. You know as well as I that no President can in good conscience allow this. Therefore you are left with two choices 1) Do what Trump is doing or 2) Pre-emptively strike North Korea now. The risk of option 2 is millions dead. The risk of option 1 is giving Kim legitimacy while he cheats on a deal which will then lead to a fall back on option 2. There is potential for option 1 to work...there are small signs such as hostage releases, chinese pressures, positive meetings with South Korea, internal North Korean leadership changes. All of these are baby steps for sure but they are in the right direction. You should pray it succeeds otherwise millions of dead will be the only option you will have left.


    That entire post is BS... millions dead will be the only option left? LOL

    You actually think NK is going to preemptively attack anybody? 

    I just don't understand how so many people are fearful of NK? They are NEVER going to attack ANYBODY, especially the USA 
    Easy...BS is just towing the Trump company line. He either doesn’t want to admit or doesn’t know that this is essentially the same agreement they agreed to in 2005....only this time it comes with the American president legitimizing then on the national stage. Advantage Kim Jong Un. 
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    rgambs said:
    I would like to hear @BS44325 take on the quickly escalating "trade war" Trump has provoked with his home nation.
    It’s a brilliant stroke of brilliant trade negotiating in all its brilliancy, why of course.
    The brilliance is on display right now. This is what I have been talking about since he came down the escalator. Using “crazy” as an advantage. Enjoy the show.
    If Team Trump Treason’s cozying up to a brutal, nuclear armed dictator and giving him the prestige he seeks while simultaneously walking away from a hard fought years long negotiated nuclear deal is your idea of brilliance, you’ve sold your soul to the myth. Enjoy the shit show when nothing comes of it.
     And shits on the G7, so he doesn't speak for the world.  Yeah,  that's genius. 
    Is the G7 the world? 
    The free,  first world. 
    Oh. They’re really doing a bang up job of running things.

    Lol

    Doom. Gloom. Doom. Gloom. Millions dead. Trump is the planets only hope.

    Ontario must be doing horribly? Lol, give me a fucking break 
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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    It’s just so striking how our president seems so much more at ease with brutal dictators than he does with our democratic allies. 
    Maybe because our allies expect that we take care of their needs before our own.
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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    unsung said:
    It’s just so striking how our president seems so much more at ease with brutal dictators than he does with our democratic allies. 
    Maybe because our allies expect that we take care of their needs before our own.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,251
    unsung said:
    It’s just so striking how our president seems so much more at ease with brutal dictators than he does with our democratic allies. 
    Maybe because our allies expect that we take care of their needs before our own.
    You're cute.
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    unsung said:
    It’s just so striking how our president seems so much more at ease with brutal dictators than he does with our democratic allies. 
    Maybe because our allies expect that we take care of their needs before our own.

    Unsung...

    How do you see this 'trade war' Trump initiated play out for the US?
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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Have you seen the tariffs that Canada imposes on the US?
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,581
    How can anyone believe Team Trump Treason is credible?

    Trump says now-famous G7 photo with Merkel and other leaders was just 'an innocent picture' - Business Insider https://apple.news/Ag49TFXkKR0ah8e-ZXnKXEw

    So far, I’ve read, “you can have the ‘best’ hotels,” and that the agreement, and having read it, I agree, lacks any substance. Welcome to the celebrity presidency of diplomacy. Man, are we screwed.
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    qontheboardqontheboard Posts: 773
    unsung said:
    Have you seen the tariffs that Canada imposes on the US?

    Have you? Or are you just swallowing the ridiculous lies of Trump?

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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,251
    unsung said:
    Have you seen the tariffs that Canada imposes on the US?

    Have you? Or are you just swallowing the ridiculous lies of Trump?

    Given that he's never complained about it before, I would assume he's swallowing it up...
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,581
    BS44325 said:
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    mrussel1 said: l.p.
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    rgambs said:
    I would like to hear @BS44325 take on the quickly escalating "trade war" Trump has provoked with his home nation.
    It’s a brilliant stroke of brilliant trade negotiating in all its brilliancy, why of course.
    The brilliance is on display right now. This is what I have been talking about since he came down the escalator. Using “crazy” as an advantage. Enjoy the show.
    If Team Trump Treason’s cozying up to a brutal, nuclear armed dictator and giving him the prestige he seeks while simultaneously walking away from a hard fought years long negotiated nuclear deal is your idea of brilliance, you’ve sold your soul to the myth. Enjoy the shit show when nothing comes of it.
     And shits on the G7, so he doesn't speak for the world.  Yeah,  that's genius. 
    Is the G7 the world? 
    The free,  first world. 
    Oh. They’re really doing a bang up job of running things.

    70 plus years of intercontinental peace.  More people out of poverty than ever in human history.  Longest life expectancy,  etc. Now remind me again of the successes of nationalism is the late 19th through mid 20th century please. 
    Your 70 years are coming to an end and most of the G7 are completely out of ideas other then piling on debt. It’s a train careening off the track. Only boldness has the chance of stopping the collapse. The G7 isn’t bold. It’s tired. It compounds problems with out of date thinking. Boldness is in Singapore. It isn’t in Quebec.
     You're pathetically arguing for a return to the most destructive philosophy since Jacobism. Is the world getting poorer? Are we facing hunger crisis? Are we regressing in health? Obviously not.  Yet you are signing on to Trumpism, a perspective you would have mocked 5 years ago as you extol free trade and laissez faire economics.  I guess the principles and moral centers of all these so called conservatives run pretty shallow.  

    Ps, your debt comment is laughable at best. Tell me again how the republicans balance the budget, after reading last month's deficit numbers. 
    I am not arguing for a return to anything. I am still all in on free trade. That doesn’t mean that the G7 carries some weird level of importance in my mind. They’re not entitled to some special trade deal with the US when most of the time they just bitch about America. Every country tries to cheat on these deals. Every country subsidizes certain domestic industries out of political concerns. Obama jabbed Canada on Keystone and most of the AMT celebrated. Your greatest ally! If Trump wants to try to work out a better deal for his country why should I care...I would expect my leader to do the same for mine. It’s a negotiation. So spare me the “return to nationalism” nonsense. Put your worries on Turkey. Or Syria. Or Venezuela. Or Nicaraugua. Or Iran. Or North Korea. Or insert collapsing country name here. These are the places that are getting poorer, that are facing a hunger crisis, that are regressing in health. The G7, if they continue to stay on the path they’re on, in time will follow.

    Ps, your federal tax revenue is at an all time high even with the tax cuts. You are correct about the deficits though. It is a spending problem you have. Social Security and Medicaide are going insolvent. It will be almost impossible to fix without pain. This is the entire point that I am making...the rest of the G7 is in even worse shape then the US! At least the US is doing something to produce growth. A country needs growth to even attempt to get out of the hole. It is not laughable. It is proof of the collapse to come.

    Because Keystone, running a pipeline of one of the dirtiest types of oil produced through one of the dirtiest extraction procedures through pristine wilderness and native tribal land, contributing to greater overall greenhouse gas emissions is the same as importing poutine, eh Professor? And the G6 are going to go the way of Venezuela and Nicaragua? I’ve missed your LOL humor. No wonder you’re such a staunch Team Trump Treason supporter, it’s where you get your material.
     
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    Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    If anyone thinks Canada can win a trade war with the US ... that's delusional.  

    One of the big NAFTA hang - ups seems to be supply management of our dairy system.  There are a lot of Canadian that wouldn't mind it coming to and end as well...
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    oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,822
    If anyone thinks Canada can win a trade war with the US ... that's delusional.  

    One of the big NAFTA hang - ups seems to be supply management of our dairy system.  There are a lot of Canadian that wouldn't mind it coming to and end as well...
    Canada has supply management, the US subsidizes its dairy industry. Has Trump spoken about his willingness to reduce US subsidies?
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    If anyone thinks Canada can win a trade war with the US ... that's delusional.  

    One of the big NAFTA hang - ups seems to be supply management of our dairy system.  There are a lot of Canadian that wouldn't mind it coming to and end as well...
    I don't think there's many winners in a trade war on either side.
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    unsung said:
    Have you seen the tariffs that Canada imposes on the US?
    You never answered the question.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,581
    This is who Team Trump Treason is in bed with.

    Trump Spends North Korea Debrief Obsessing Over Justin Trudeau - Vanity Fair https://apple.news/AyCShLno9SNunpW5kyKXw3g

    Hey Canada, get yourself some nukes and you’ll be treated with respect and you might even have ‘nice’ hotels someday.
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    If anyone thinks Canada can win a trade war with the US ... that's delusional.  

    One of the big NAFTA hang - ups seems to be supply management of our dairy system.  There are a lot of Canadian that wouldn't mind it coming to and end as well...
    Anyone who thinks this only involves Canada and the US is delusional.
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    This is who Team Trump Treason is in bed with.

    Trump Spends North Korea Debrief Obsessing Over Justin Trudeau - Vanity Fair https://apple.news/AyCShLno9SNunpW5kyKXw3g

    Hey Canada, get yourself some nukes and you’ll be treated with respect and you might even have ‘nice’ hotels someday.
    Trump really wants to be a dictator.

    “His country does love him,” Trump said of Kim in an interview Tuesday morning. “His people, you see the fervor. They have a great fervor.”

    Trump would love Americans to act that way too.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,581
    dignin said:
    This is who Team Trump Treason is in bed with.

    Trump Spends North Korea Debrief Obsessing Over Justin Trudeau - Vanity Fair https://apple.news/AyCShLno9SNunpW5kyKXw3g

    Hey Canada, get yourself some nukes and you’ll be treated with respect and you might even have ‘nice’ hotels someday.
    Trump really wants to be a dictator.

    “His country does love him,” Trump said of Kim in an interview Tuesday morning. “His people, you see the fervor. They have a great fervor.”

    Trump would love Americans to act that way too.
    40% of Team Trump Treason supporters already do.
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,515
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    rgambs said:
    I would like to hear @BS44325 take on the quickly escalating "trade war" Trump has provoked with his home nation.
    It’s a brilliant stroke of brilliant trade negotiating in all its brilliancy, why of course.
    The brilliance is on display right now. This is what I have been talking about since he came down the escalator. Using “crazy” as an advantage. Enjoy the show.
    If Team Trump Treason’s cozying up to a brutal, nuclear armed dictator and giving him the prestige he seeks while simultaneously walking away from a hard fought years long negotiated nuclear deal is your idea of brilliance, you’ve sold your soul to the myth. Enjoy the shit show when nothing comes of it.
     And shits on the G7, so he doesn't speak for the world.  Yeah,  that's genius. 
    I am actually more nervous about Trump and how he could harm the world today that I have ever been before, and that is exactly why. He is very obviously and openly making allies out of totalitarian dictators and making enemies out of all of America's democratic allies. He is obviously completely unconcerned about the whole human rights thing - I think he's come to realize that loves dictatorships. He wants to run one. That, combined with his daily Orwellian attack on the media, is something very, very worrying to me. If he wins in 2020, I'm not so sure it will be a reversible trend.
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    dignin said:
    This is who Team Trump Treason is in bed with.

    Trump Spends North Korea Debrief Obsessing Over Justin Trudeau - Vanity Fair https://apple.news/AyCShLno9SNunpW5kyKXw3g

    Hey Canada, get yourself some nukes and you’ll be treated with respect and you might even have ‘nice’ hotels someday.
    Trump really wants to be a dictator.

    “His country does love him,” Trump said of Kim in an interview Tuesday morning. “His people, you see the fervor. They have a great fervor.”

    Trump would love Americans to act that way too.
    40% of Americans and 99.9% ofTeam Trump Treason supporters already do.
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    my2hands said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    rgambs said:
    I would like to hear @BS44325 take on the quickly escalating "trade war" Trump has provoked with his home nation.
    It’s a brilliant stroke of brilliant trade negotiating in all its brilliancy, why of course.
    The brilliance is on display right now. This is what I have been talking about since he came down the escalator. Using “crazy” as an advantage. Enjoy the show.
    If Team Trump Treason’s cozying up to a brutal, nuclear armed dictator and giving him the prestige he seeks while simultaneously walking away from a hard fought years long negotiated nuclear deal is your idea of brilliance, you’ve sold your soul to the myth. Enjoy the shit show when nothing comes of it.
    Riiiiight...it was only a few months back that you were whining about “Fire and Fury”, “Little Rocket Man”, and “My button is bigger then your’s and it works”. I know I have been away for a while but I’m pretty amazed that you so quickly transitioned from dove to hawk. You were all cool with making empty deals with Cuba and Iran but on NK you are now the AMT John Bolton! He’s in the room by the way so don’t worry that there is nobody in Singapore is there to argue for your position...which is war I assume? Personally I like Trump’s path of engaging china, tightening sanctions, and military threats to coerce Kim Jung Un to the table followed by graciousness and potential for carrots but I suppose your war idea could work too. Also...your precious Iran deal had to be cancelled for the NK strategy to work. Iran gave up nothing and got a ton. It was a farce. North Korea needed to know that an Iran type deal is off the table.
    Geez, I don’t even have to read half way through your post before you’re beating the war drum. Have I ever advocated for war against North Korea? And that empty nuclear deal with Iran? You mean the one they were abiding by? And what exactly has changed in North Korea, Professor? Other than being showered with praise by a US president?
    You are advocating for war because we are at the point of no return. North Korea missle technology is reaching the point of being able to hit the continental United States. Soon after that they will learn how to mount a nuclear warhead onto one of those missles. You know as well as I that no President can in good conscience allow this. Therefore you are left with two choices 1) Do what Trump is doing or 2) Pre-emptively strike North Korea now. The risk of option 2 is millions dead. The risk of option 1 is giving Kim legitimacy while he cheats on a deal which will then lead to a fall back on option 2. There is potential for option 1 to work...there are small signs such as hostage releases, chinese pressures, positive meetings with South Korea, internal North Korean leadership changes. All of these are baby steps for sure but they are in the right direction. You should pray it succeeds otherwise millions of dead will be the only option you will have left.


    That entire post is BS... millions dead will be the only option left? LOL

    You actually think NK is going to preemptively attack anybody? 

    I just don't understand how so many people are fearful of NK? They are NEVER going to attack ANYBODY, especially the USA 
    Easy...BS is just towing the Trump company liecne. He either doesn’t want to admit or doesn’t know that this is essentially the same agreement they agreed to in 2005....only this time it comes with the American president legitimizing then on the national stage. Advantage Kim Jong Un. 
    Dont forget they agreed to denuclearization in 1993... 25 years ago

    But go ahead Trump fans, keep thinking your hero just invented the wheel
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,581
    my2hands said:

    my2hands said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    rgambs said:
    I would like to hear @BS44325 take on the quickly escalating "trade war" Trump has provoked with his home nation.
    It’s a brilliant stroke of brilliant trade negotiating in all its brilliancy, why of course.
    The brilliance is on display right now. This is what I have been talking about since he came down the escalator. Using “crazy” as an advantage. Enjoy the show.
    If Team Trump Treason’s cozying up to a brutal, nuclear armed dictator and giving him the prestige he seeks while simultaneously walking away from a hard fought years long negotiated nuclear deal is your idea of brilliance, you’ve sold your soul to the myth. Enjoy the shit show when nothing comes of it.
    Riiiiight...it was only a few months back that you were whining about “Fire and Fury”, “Little Rocket Man”, and “My button is bigger then your’s and it works”. I know I have been away for a while but I’m pretty amazed that you so quickly transitioned from dove to hawk. You were all cool with making empty deals with Cuba and Iran but on NK you are now the AMT John Bolton! He’s in the room by the way so don’t worry that there is nobody in Singapore is there to argue for your position...which is war I assume? Personally I like Trump’s path of engaging china, tightening sanctions, and military threats to coerce Kim Jung Un to the table followed by graciousness and potential for carrots but I suppose your war idea could work too. Also...your precious Iran deal had to be cancelled for the NK strategy to work. Iran gave up nothing and got a ton. It was a farce. North Korea needed to know that an Iran type deal is off the table.
    Geez, I don’t even have to read half way through your post before you’re beating the war drum. Have I ever advocated for war against North Korea? And that empty nuclear deal with Iran? You mean the one they were abiding by? And what exactly has changed in North Korea, Professor? Other than being showered with praise by a US president?
    You are advocating for war because we are at the point of no return. North Korea missle technology is reaching the point of being able to hit the continental United States. Soon after that they will learn how to mount a nuclear warhead onto one of those missles. You know as well as I that no President can in good conscience allow this. Therefore you are left with two choices 1) Do what Trump is doing or 2) Pre-emptively strike North Korea now. The risk of option 2 is millions dead. The risk of option 1 is giving Kim legitimacy while he cheats on a deal which will then lead to a fall back on option 2. There is potential for option 1 to work...there are small signs such as hostage releases, chinese pressures, positive meetings with South Korea, internal North Korean leadership changes. All of these are baby steps for sure but they are in the right direction. You should pray it succeeds otherwise millions of dead will be the only option you will have left.


    That entire post is BS... millions dead will be the only option left? LOL

    You actually think NK is going to preemptively attack anybody? 

    I just don't understand how so many people are fearful of NK? They are NEVER going to attack ANYBODY, especially the USA 
    Easy...BS is just towing the Trump company liecne. He either doesn’t want to admit or doesn’t know that this is essentially the same agreement they agreed to in 2005....only this time it comes with the American president legitimizing then on the national stage. Advantage Kim Jong Un. 
    Dont forget they agreed to denuclearization in 1993... 25 years ago

    But go ahead Trump fans, keep thinking your hero just invented the wheel
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    dignin said:
    This is who Team Trump Treason is in bed with.

    Trump Spends North Korea Debrief Obsessing Over Justin Trudeau - Vanity Fair https://apple.news/AyCShLno9SNunpW5kyKXw3g

    Hey Canada, get yourself some nukes and you’ll be treated with respect and you might even have ‘nice’ hotels someday.
    Trump really wants to be a dictator.

    “His country does love him,” Trump said of Kim in an interview Tuesday morning. “His people, you see the fervor. They have a great fervor.”

    Trump would love Americans to act that way too.
    40% of Team Trump Treason supporters already do.
    I think you meant to say 40% of the American public... and 100% of Team Trump Treason supporters.

    No?
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,581
    dignin said:
    This is who Team Trump Treason is in bed with.

    Trump Spends North Korea Debrief Obsessing Over Justin Trudeau - Vanity Fair https://apple.news/AyCShLno9SNunpW5kyKXw3g

    Hey Canada, get yourself some nukes and you’ll be treated with respect and you might even have ‘nice’ hotels someday.
    Trump really wants to be a dictator.

    “His country does love him,” Trump said of Kim in an interview Tuesday morning. “His people, you see the fervor. They have a great fervor.”

    Trump would love Americans to act that way too.
    40% of Team Trump Treason supporters already do.
    I think you meant to say 40% of the American public... and 100% of Team Trump Treason supporters.

    No?
    Correct. Not enough sleep or caffeine.
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