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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,277
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    MayDay10 said:
    meh.  I cant piss on the guy for giving a large sum of money to victims... as long as he is genuine about it.
    true. he didn't have to donate anything at all. did W pledge any of his personal wealth to Katrina? Maybe he did and just didn't announce it, but I certainly wouldn't fault anyone for their choice of donation. 

    if obama had pledged that much (or something relatively similar), everyone here would be congratulating him. 

    Obama's charitable giving was "announced" through release of his tax returns.
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    but if obama put up $1m of his own funds, that would be quite different beings obama is very far from a billionaire. for trump putting up $1m to the flood victims is like me putting up whatever is in my wallet 
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    no more forever."
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,837
    MayDay10 said:
    meh.  I cant piss on the guy for giving a large sum of money to victims... as long as he is genuine about it.
    No shit.  If he actually gives the money, it's still a nice sum.  All the asshats complaining about this together won't give as much.  This is the stupid shit that keeps us from moving forward, and how we end up with a Trump and idiots still defending him.  There is probably not anyone out there that only does bad things.... or only does good things.  
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,490
    chadwick said:
    but if obama put up $1m of his own funds, that would be quite different beings obama is very far from a billionaire. for trump putting up $1m to the flood victims is like me putting up whatever is in my wallet 
    that's why I said "relatively similar". 
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    cincybearcat said:
    MayDay10 said:
    meh.  I cant piss on the guy for giving a large sum of money to victims... as long as he is genuine about it.
    No shit.  If he actually gives the money, it's still a nice sum.  All the asshats complaining about this together won't give as much.  This is the stupid shit that keeps us from moving forward, and how we end up with a Trump and idiots still defending him.  There is probably not anyone out there that only does bad things.... or only does good things.  

    Except that no one here is complaining about him donating money. What they're skeptical about is whether he actually will donate it or not, given his track record. The odds look low, except for the fact that the press will hound him on this until he does, and good for them.

    Since when do you get to decide that someone is an asshat for complaining about Trump?
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,490
    oftenreading said:
    cincybearcat said:
    MayDay10 said:
    meh.  I cant piss on the guy for giving a large sum of money to victims... as long as he is genuine about it.
    No shit.  If he actually gives the money, it's still a nice sum.  All the asshats complaining about this together won't give as much.  This is the stupid shit that keeps us from moving forward, and how we end up with a Trump and idiots still defending him.  There is probably not anyone out there that only does bad things.... or only does good things.  

    Except that no one here is complaining about him donating money. What they're skeptical about is whether he actually will donate it or not, given his track record. The odds look low, except for the fact that the press will hound him on this until he does, and good for them.

    Since when do you get to decide that someone is an asshat for complaining about Trump?
    there are folks in this very page criticizing him for the amount he gave. 
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    oftenreading said:
    cincybearcat said:
    MayDay10 said:
    meh.  I cant piss on the guy for giving a large sum of money to victims... as long as he is genuine about it.
    No shit.  If he actually gives the money, it's still a nice sum.  All the asshats complaining about this together won't give as much.  This is the stupid shit that keeps us from moving forward, and how we end up with a Trump and idiots still defending him.  There is probably not anyone out there that only does bad things.... or only does good things.  

    Except that no one here is complaining about him donating money. What they're skeptical about is whether he actually will donate it or not, given his track record. The odds look low, except for the fact that the press will hound him on this until he does, and good for them.

    Since when do you get to decide that someone is an asshat for complaining about Trump?
    there are folks in this very page criticizing him for the amount he gave. 

    Fair enough; I see what you mean, if that's what the post was referring to.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,837
    oftenreading said:
    cincybearcat said:
    MayDay10 said:
    meh.  I cant piss on the guy for giving a large sum of money to victims... as long as he is genuine about it.
    No shit.  If he actually gives the money, it's still a nice sum.  All the asshats complaining about this together won't give as much.  This is the stupid shit that keeps us from moving forward, and how we end up with a Trump and idiots still defending him.  There is probably not anyone out there that only does bad things.... or only does good things.  

    Except that no one here is complaining about him donating money. What they're skeptical about is whether he actually will donate it or not, given his track record. The odds look low, except for the fact that the press will hound him on this until he does, and good for them.

    Since when do you get to decide that someone is an asshat for complaining about Trump?

    chadwick said:
    but if obama put up $1m of his own funds, that would be quite different beings obama is very far from a billionaire. for trump putting up $1m to the flood victims is like me putting up whatever is in my wallet 
    Really?  So why the comments about the stack of $?  Yes people are complaining about how much $.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,837
    oftenreading said:
    cincybearcat said:
    MayDay10 said:
    meh.  I cant piss on the guy for giving a large sum of money to victims... as long as he is genuine about it.
    No shit.  If he actually gives the money, it's still a nice sum.  All the asshats complaining about this together won't give as much.  This is the stupid shit that keeps us from moving forward, and how we end up with a Trump and idiots still defending him.  There is probably not anyone out there that only does bad things.... or only does good things.  

    Except that no one here is complaining about him donating money. What they're skeptical about is whether he actually will donate it or not, given his track record. The odds look low, except for the fact that the press will hound him on this until he does, and good for them.

    Since when do you get to decide that someone is an asshat for complaining about Trump?
    Cause it's a forum and I'm allowed to give my opinion.  Since when do you get to question my ability to share my opinion? .... oh yeah, its a forum and you are allowed to give your opinion.
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    it was a video to realize he isn't giving much at all. it's pennies really
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    edited September 2017
    why not give up $300m? the giving of $1m from a multibillionaire is very low-scale giving. it is a fact. the numbers do not lie.    
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    yeah it sucks
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    but many take the bait like it was the 1800s... oh my god, $1m dollars... i can not even comprehend such a number 
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    it's shit
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,855
    oftenreading said:
    cincybearcat said:
    MayDay10 said:
    meh.  I cant piss on the guy for giving a large sum of money to victims... as long as he is genuine about it.
    No shit.  If he actually gives the money, it's still a nice sum.  All the asshats complaining about this together won't give as much.  This is the stupid shit that keeps us from moving forward, and how we end up with a Trump and idiots still defending him.  There is probably not anyone out there that only does bad things.... or only does good things.  

    Except that no one here is complaining about him donating money. What they're skeptical about is whether he actually will donate it or not, given his track record. The odds look low, except for the fact that the press will hound him on this until he does, and good for them.

    Since when do you get to decide that someone is an asshat for complaining about Trump?
    IMO, widespread complaining about shit like this weakens the 'case' against a mentally unstable and unqualified president.  

    Its like all the garbage unjustly heaved at Obama from all directions.  It was background noise after a short while and people were desensitized if there were actual complaints grounded in the real world.  This is the type of behavior *we (left leaning independents and democrats) abhorred.  Whining about 'how much' Trump donated of his own money to a cause is silly.  Press should follow up and see if he follows through... but no matter how much % of his worth, $1 million can help a lot of people.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    cincybearcat said:
    oftenreading said:
    cincybearcat said:
    MayDay10 said:
    meh.  I cant piss on the guy for giving a large sum of money to victims... as long as he is genuine about it.
    No shit.  If he actually gives the money, it's still a nice sum.  All the asshats complaining about this together won't give as much.  This is the stupid shit that keeps us from moving forward, and how we end up with a Trump and idiots still defending him.  There is probably not anyone out there that only does bad things.... or only does good things.  

    Except that no one here is complaining about him donating money. What they're skeptical about is whether he actually will donate it or not, given his track record. The odds look low, except for the fact that the press will hound him on this until he does, and good for them.

    Since when do you get to decide that someone is an asshat for complaining about Trump?
    Cause it's a forum and I'm allowed to give my opinion.  Since when do you get to question my ability to share my opinion? .... oh yeah, its a forum and you are allowed to give your opinion.

    I'm not calling you an asshat for posting your opinion.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,490
    MayDay10 said:
    oftenreading said:
    cincybearcat said:
    MayDay10 said:
    meh.  I cant piss on the guy for giving a large sum of money to victims... as long as he is genuine about it.
    No shit.  If he actually gives the money, it's still a nice sum.  All the asshats complaining about this together won't give as much.  This is the stupid shit that keeps us from moving forward, and how we end up with a Trump and idiots still defending him.  There is probably not anyone out there that only does bad things.... or only does good things.  

    Except that no one here is complaining about him donating money. What they're skeptical about is whether he actually will donate it or not, given his track record. The odds look low, except for the fact that the press will hound him on this until he does, and good for them.

    Since when do you get to decide that someone is an asshat for complaining about Trump?
    IMO, widespread complaining about shit like this weakens the 'case' against a mentally unstable and unqualified president.  

    Its like all the garbage unjustly heaved at Obama from all directions.  It was background noise after a short while and people were desensitized if there were actual complaints grounded in the real world.  This is the type of behavior *we (left leaning independents and democrats) abhorred.  Whining about 'how much' Trump donated of his own money to a cause is silly.  Press should follow up and see if he follows through... but no matter how much % of his worth, $1 million can help a lot of people.
    this is exactly what I've been saying for months. All of the bitching and moaning about things that don't matter weakens the cause of what does matter. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,490
    chadwick said:
    why not give up $300m? the giving of $1m from a multibillionaire is very low-scale giving. it is a fact. the numbers do not lie.    
    doesn't matter. giving is giving. if he gave $10 I wouldn't say a thing either. 
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Abermarle Estate is definitely not "one of the most prestigious and architecturally significant residences in history."

    Not even close.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    edited September 2017
    A generally crappy human who happens to be outrageously rich donates $1M to the effort.  It's great that he did that.  We can say that and keep our eye on the ball.  HE'S STILL UNFIT TO BE PRESIDENT.  He can't buy his way into being good at the job or not embarrassing himself and his country.  So thank you Donald, for a healthy donation...that it's not a huge percent of your income is neither here nor there.  

    "OK Trump supporter, that was generous.  Good for him.  What's that you say?  You say we should get off his back because he did that and he's great?  Sorry...but he's still unqualified for the job you elected him for.  He still embarrasses himself and his country almost daily.  Chris Paul, JJ Watt, and many other wealthy people have also donated (and/or generated) a lot of money to the effort.  Should they all be President, too?"

    But to question the amount he's donating and telling him he should donate more is just playing right into the hands of his followers..."you always are trying to take him down even when he doesn't deserve it."  Well, I guess they're right...though they are wrong about how often he deserves it (nearly all the time).
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