Donald Trump

PJfanwillneverleave1

I'm too busy watching him drive his golfcart all over the green.

Kev - Coat and Keys

Before this changes into a thread about people feeling sorry for the Nazis as they are being picked on, I'll make a Trump comment.

In a week when the Russia story keeps building after the Manafort home raid story and then Trump getting all aroused with hopes he gets the chance to drop some Nukes, hard to believe the big story is a US President who can't say Nazis are bad because they make up most of his support and his WH advisers. Talk about MAGA.
And poor old Mooch is long forgotten too.

The Juggler

Driver of car is a Nazi sympathizer and obsessed with Hitler:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/local/one-dead-as-car-strikes-crowds-amid-protests-of-white-nationalist-gathering-in-charlottesville-two-police-die-in-helicopter-crash/2017/08/13/3590b3ce-8021-11e7-902a-2a9f2d808496_story.html

PJfanwillneverleave1

If this doesn't lighten the mood nothing will.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKFWp-Nd3JM&spfreload=9

Thirty Bills Unpaid

The Juggler said:

Driver of car is a Nazi sympathizer and obsessed with Hitler:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/local/one-dead-as-car-strikes-crowds-amid-protests-of-white-nationalist-gathering-in-charlottesville-two-police-die-in-helicopter-crash/2017/08/13/3590b3ce-8021-11e7-902a-2a9f2d808496_story.html

Not to mention a goofy looking bastard.

What an idiot.

HesCalledDyer

PJPOWER said:

HesCalledDyer said:

PJPOWER said:

HesCalledDyer said:

PJPOWER said:

dignin said:

PJPOWER said:

dignin said:

PJPOWER said:

JC29856 said:

oftenreading said:

JC29856 said:

I'll help from the permit..“seeks to unify the right-wing against a totalitarian Communist crackdown, to speak out against displacement level immigration policies in the United States and Europe and to affirm the right of Southerners and white people to organize for their interests just like any other group is able to do, free of persecution.”

ignoring the incidents at the unite the right rally the form and purpose of it doesn't seem to break any laws to me or the aclu. 

Perhaps it didn't occur to you that if they stated their full goals on the permit application, they would not have been provided said permit?

that's certainly possible I would even say likely but then if the goals and purpose of the rally were super secret how can they be explicitly condemned? should we guess alterior motives of all rallys or just some rallys?

and what about the organized counter protestors? have they been identified? what was their purpose?

I know there have been plenty of accounts of the Antifa shit fucks along with the kkk shit fucks.  Both are plenty worthy of blame for escalated violence at otherwise peaceful protests.  Both are guilty of punching women and pepper spraying people in the face and a no tolerance type of mentality.  Fuck them all.

Only one side murdered someone yesterday, but hey, same difference.

Only one person murdered someone.  Both "sides" are guilty of perpetuating the violence that has come forth at protests across the country.  Far lefties and far righties are both far dumbasses.

Oh really? So I bet you feel the same way when "one Muslim" blows himself up in a crowd of people.

The far left is not spewing the hate. The far left was out there marching against the hate when they were run down in the street by someone on the far right.

False equivalency, and any sane person can see it.

Keep defending the Antifa hoodlums.  Are you one of them?  They have perpetuated the violence at a number of protests lately.  I have seen plenty of hate spewed by both sides lately, and any sane person sees that.  Like the Antifa member and Berkeley CA professor that was bashing people over the head with a bike lock that could have easily killed someone.  The far left is intolerant of anyone moderately conservative and vise versa.   

This is not about fucking Antifa. 

It partly is...They had a large presence at this protest, throwing piss balloons and pepper spraying at will.  Violence begets violence, right? 

Did an antifa activist run over people with a fucking car and murder someone?!

No, they just threw acid/piss, pepper spraying everyone in sight and beat on cars with baseball bats, threw bags of shit, and turn an otherwise peaceful gathering (regardless of the rhetoric) into a brawl.  They are completely innocent.

Ok so it's all their fault. You're fucking ridiculous.

THE ONLY PERSON COMMITTING A FUCKING MURDER YESTERDAY WAS A MOTHERFUCKING NAZI.

Stop deflecting bullshit.

HesCalledDyer

I honestly don't know why I or anyone else tries to engage with you three. Whataboutism is your only defense, ever.

PJfanwillneverleave1

I'm wondering if anyone here thinks that pipsqueak 20yr old that did this should get the death penalty.  Or should the American justice system change and reintegrate him back into society eventually.

Go Beavers

PJPOWER said:

JC29856 said:

oftenreading said:

JC29856 said:

I'll help from the permit..“seeks to unify the right-wing against a totalitarian Communist crackdown, to speak out against displacement level immigration policies in the United States and Europe and to affirm the right of Southerners and white people to organize for their interests just like any other group is able to do, free of persecution.”

ignoring the incidents at the unite the right rally the form and purpose of it doesn't seem to break any laws to me or the aclu. 

Perhaps it didn't occur to you that if they stated their full goals on the permit application, they would not have been provided said permit?

that's certainly possible I would even say likely but then if the goals and purpose of the rally were super secret how can they be explicitly condemned? should we guess alterior motives of all rallys or just some rallys?

and what about the organized counter protestors? have they been identified? what was their purpose?

I know there have been plenty of accounts of the Antifa shit fucks along with the kkk shit fucks.  Both are plenty worthy of blame for escalated violence at otherwise peaceful protests.  Both are guilty of punching women and pepper spraying people in the face and a no tolerance type of mentality.  Fuck them all.

I understand the sentiment, but it's different when the president is in one of those groups 

PJfanwillneverleave1

Go Beavers said:

PJPOWER said:

JC29856 said:

oftenreading said:

JC29856 said:

I'll help from the permit..“seeks to unify the right-wing against a totalitarian Communist crackdown, to speak out against displacement level immigration policies in the United States and Europe and to affirm the right of Southerners and white people to organize for their interests just like any other group is able to do, free of persecution.”

ignoring the incidents at the unite the right rally the form and purpose of it doesn't seem to break any laws to me or the aclu. 

Perhaps it didn't occur to you that if they stated their full goals on the permit application, they would not have been provided said permit?

that's certainly possible I would even say likely but then if the goals and purpose of the rally were super secret how can they be explicitly condemned? should we guess alterior motives of all rallys or just some rallys?

and what about the organized counter protestors? have they been identified? what was their purpose?

I know there have been plenty of accounts of the Antifa shit fucks along with the kkk shit fucks.  Both are plenty worthy of blame for escalated violence at otherwise peaceful protests.  Both are guilty of punching women and pepper spraying people in the face and a no tolerance type of mentality.  Fuck them all.

I understand the sentiment, but it's different when the president is in one of those groups 

Yowzers.  Which group beavers,  right, far right or alt right?

rgambs

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Go Beavers said:

PJPOWER said:

JC29856 said:

oftenreading said:

JC29856 said:

I'll help from the permit..“seeks to unify the right-wing against a totalitarian Communist crackdown, to speak out against displacement level immigration policies in the United States and Europe and to affirm the right of Southerners and white people to organize for their interests just like any other group is able to do, free of persecution.”

ignoring the incidents at the unite the right rally the form and purpose of it doesn't seem to break any laws to me or the aclu. 

Perhaps it didn't occur to you that if they stated their full goals on the permit application, they would not have been provided said permit?

that's certainly possible I would even say likely but then if the goals and purpose of the rally were super secret how can they be explicitly condemned? should we guess alterior motives of all rallys or just some rallys?

and what about the organized counter protestors? have they been identified? what was their purpose?

I know there have been plenty of accounts of the Antifa shit fucks along with the kkk shit fucks.  Both are plenty worthy of blame for escalated violence at otherwise peaceful protests.  Both are guilty of punching women and pepper spraying people in the face and a no tolerance type of mentality.  Fuck them all.

I understand the sentiment, but it's different when the president is in one of those groups 

Yowzers.  Which group beavers,  right, far right or alt right?

He hired the de facto leader of the alt-right into his cabinet, so...yeah.

PJPOWER

HesCalledDyer said:

PJPOWER said:

HesCalledDyer said:

PJPOWER said:

HesCalledDyer said:

PJPOWER said:

dignin said:

PJPOWER said:

dignin said:

PJPOWER said:

JC29856 said:

oftenreading said:

JC29856 said:

I'll help from the permit..“seeks to unify the right-wing against a totalitarian Communist crackdown, to speak out against displacement level immigration policies in the United States and Europe and to affirm the right of Southerners and white people to organize for their interests just like any other group is able to do, free of persecution.”

ignoring the incidents at the unite the right rally the form and purpose of it doesn't seem to break any laws to me or the aclu. 

Perhaps it didn't occur to you that if they stated their full goals on the permit application, they would not have been provided said permit?

that's certainly possible I would even say likely but then if the goals and purpose of the rally were super secret how can they be explicitly condemned? should we guess alterior motives of all rallys or just some rallys?

and what about the organized counter protestors? have they been identified? what was their purpose?

I know there have been plenty of accounts of the Antifa shit fucks along with the kkk shit fucks.  Both are plenty worthy of blame for escalated violence at otherwise peaceful protests.  Both are guilty of punching women and pepper spraying people in the face and a no tolerance type of mentality.  Fuck them all.

Only one side murdered someone yesterday, but hey, same difference.

Only one person murdered someone.  Both "sides" are guilty of perpetuating the violence that has come forth at protests across the country.  Far lefties and far righties are both far dumbasses.

Oh really? So I bet you feel the same way when "one Muslim" blows himself up in a crowd of people.

The far left is not spewing the hate. The far left was out there marching against the hate when they were run down in the street by someone on the far right.

False equivalency, and any sane person can see it.

Keep defending the Antifa hoodlums.  Are you one of them?  They have perpetuated the violence at a number of protests lately.  I have seen plenty of hate spewed by both sides lately, and any sane person sees that.  Like the Antifa member and Berkeley CA professor that was bashing people over the head with a bike lock that could have easily killed someone.  The far left is intolerant of anyone moderately conservative and vise versa.   

This is not about fucking Antifa. 

It partly is...They had a large presence at this protest, throwing piss balloons and pepper spraying at will.  Violence begets violence, right? 

Did an antifa activist run over people with a fucking car and murder someone?!

No, they just threw acid/piss, pepper spraying everyone in sight and beat on cars with baseball bats, threw bags of shit, and turn an otherwise peaceful gathering (regardless of the rhetoric) into a brawl.  They are completely innocent.

Ok so it's all their fault. You're fucking ridiculous.

THE ONLY PERSON COMMITTING A FUCKING MURDER YESTERDAY WAS A MOTHERFUCKING NAZI.

Stop deflecting bullshit.

I disagree and you are the one being ridiculous.  Nowhere did I say it was "all their fault"...Just mentioning that the dumbasses beating on his car with a baseball bat were not innocent in bringing about these types of scenarios.  I agree, he was a shithead nazi sympathizer, but I would be willing to bet that when this goes to court, one of the defense's arguments is going to be provocation.  Stop jumping to conclusions...you are sounding like an Antifa sympathizer...along with many others in this forum.  I'm not defending the douchbag, but the violent counterprotest were begging for this kind of reaction.  

PJfanwillneverleave1

rgambs said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Go Beavers said:

PJPOWER said:

JC29856 said:

oftenreading said:

JC29856 said:

I'll help from the permit..“seeks to unify the right-wing against a totalitarian Communist crackdown, to speak out against displacement level immigration policies in the United States and Europe and to affirm the right of Southerners and white people to organize for their interests just like any other group is able to do, free of persecution.”

ignoring the incidents at the unite the right rally the form and purpose of it doesn't seem to break any laws to me or the aclu. 

Perhaps it didn't occur to you that if they stated their full goals on the permit application, they would not have been provided said permit?

that's certainly possible I would even say likely but then if the goals and purpose of the rally were super secret how can they be explicitly condemned? should we guess alterior motives of all rallys or just some rallys?

and what about the organized counter protestors? have they been identified? what was their purpose?

I know there have been plenty of accounts of the Antifa shit fucks along with the kkk shit fucks.  Both are plenty worthy of blame for escalated violence at otherwise peaceful protests.  Both are guilty of punching women and pepper spraying people in the face and a no tolerance type of mentality.  Fuck them all.

I understand the sentiment, but it's different when the president is in one of those groups 

Yowzers.  Which group beavers,  right, far right or alt right?

He hired the de facto leader of the alt-right into his cabinet, so...yeah.

Fair enough.  Do you openly state your position that President Trump belongs to and supports the alt right?

PJfanwillneverleave1

America is going crazy.  Now there are riots and protests in Seattle.  Can anyone explain why?
http://www.tmz.com/

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Far right.., alt right...

Who f**king cares? The guy inspired idiots who's belief system was- albeit slowly- being dismantled by a more empathetic society.

I mean even in the KKK's heyday... they covered their faces to avoid public scrutiny. These tools brazenly walk down Main Street prouder than peacocks.

More damage has been done than you think, PJFan... with your 'he's only one man' garbage.

PJfanwillneverleave1

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Far right.., alt right...

Who f**king cares? The guy inspired idiots who's belief system was- albeit slowly- being dismantled by a more empathetic society.

I mean even in the KKK's heyday... they covered their faces to avoid public scrutiny. These tools brazenly walk down Main Street prouder than peacocks.

More damage has been done than you think, PJFan... with your 'he's only one man' garbage.

So which group is he in TB.

Smellyman

Defending Trump, racists,neo nazis and white supremacists. 

I guess we know who we are dealing with now. 

Before it was just under the surface.

Now confirmed.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Far right.., alt right...

Who f**king cares? The guy inspired idiots who's belief system was- albeit slowly- being dismantled by a more empathetic society.

I mean even in the KKK's heyday... they covered their faces to avoid public scrutiny. These tools brazenly walk down Main Street prouder than peacocks.

More damage has been done than you think, PJFan... with your 'he's only one man' garbage.

So which group is he in TB.

Who f**king cares?

If you are planning on pressing me... he's soon to be enshrined in the Fletcher Memorial Home. That is the best I can do for you.

PJfanwillneverleave1

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Far right.., alt right...

Who f**king cares? The guy inspired idiots who's belief system was- albeit slowly- being dismantled by a more empathetic society.

I mean even in the KKK's heyday... they covered their faces to avoid public scrutiny. These tools brazenly walk down Main Street prouder than peacocks.

More damage has been done than you think, PJFan... with your 'he's only one man' garbage.

So which group is he in TB.

Who f**king cares?

If you are planning on pressing me... he's soon to be enshrined in the Fletcher Memorial Home. That is the best I can do for you.

Not sure what you mean about me planning to press you. All these labels are given to people that don't think like the libs or radlibs in particular (not that you are one in any way whatsoever, unless it's a compliment)  - Nazis, right, alt right, blah blah blah.  Yet you ask anyone to place someone in these categories and they can't.  What group does President Trump belong in?

JC29856

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

I'm wondering if anyone here thinks that pipsqueak 20yr old that did this should get the death penalty.  Or should the American justice system change and reintegrate him back into society eventually.

he is a youngster, only 20. I think he may be stuck in the learning hate phase, eventually with hope and change he will learn to love