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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761


    Accepting of pardon is an admission of guilt and can be used in civil suits.
    Yup. I'm surprised this hasn't been a bigger angle in the news. 
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,663
    edited August 2017


    Accepting of pardon is an admission of guilt and can be used in civil suits.
    Yup. I'm surprised this hasn't been a bigger angle in the news. 
    People are hopefully going to sue the crap out of that racist xenophobic white nationalist. 
    In this instance I'm referring to Arpaio
    Not tRump
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,331
    How often do presidents pardon people this early into their term? I thought it was normally done at the end of their term.
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    dignin said:
    How often do presidents pardon people this early into their term? I thought it was normally done at the end of their term.
    8 months in, rarely
  • dignin said:
    How often do presidents pardon people this early into their term? I thought it was normally done at the end of their term.
    Maybe Trump likes golfin' more than presidentin' and this early into the term is also near the end?

  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited August 2017
    I can't wait until President Trump will discontinue the Pardoning of a turkey at Thanksgiving.  He has no time for that nonsense.

  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    Trump capitalizes "pardon", so now you follow suit, huh? Eh, I guess we should all capitalize "Impeachment" or "Resignation", because they're going to be an event before too long. 
  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,405
    Trump capitalizes "pardon", so now you follow suit, huh? Eh, I guess we should all capitalize "Impeachment" or "Resignation", because they're going to be an event before too long. 
    No one will be able to Pardon him from Impeachment, Resignation or for being an Idiot.
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    You forgot Nazi on your list.

  • benjs said:
    How can anyone here dispute this latest tweet?  Seriously

    At the request of the Governor of Texas, I have signed the Disaster Proclamation, which unleashes the full force of government help!


    How can anyone here dispute the tweet that I just made (below in bold)? Seriously

    I went to the washroom earlier today, which unleashed the full force of my bowels!

    Why does a benign factual statement amidst a sea of lies/half-truths somehow gain your propagandist-in-chief any clout? 44 out of 45 POTUS' would not have wasted their time; reserving communications with the public for challenges requiring true leadership - rather than no-brainer decisions like this which the populace should simply expect from a leader. 
    I suppose you can't even respect this tweet.  Cmon man he is your President give him some credit when due.




  • Accepting of pardon is an admission of guilt and can be used in civil suits.
    Yup. I'm surprised this hasn't been a bigger angle in the news. 
    People are hopefully going to sue the crap out of that racist xenophobic white nationalist. 
    In this instance I'm referring to Arpaio
    Not tRump

    It is because nobody cares.  If even the msm who demonizes President Trump everyday can't even make this story stick it's because no one cares.
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    benjs said:
    How can anyone here dispute this latest tweet?  Seriously

    At the request of the Governor of Texas, I have signed the Disaster Proclamation, which unleashes the full force of government help!


    How can anyone here dispute the tweet that I just made (below in bold)? Seriously

    I went to the washroom earlier today, which unleashed the full force of my bowels!

    Why does a benign factual statement amidst a sea of lies/half-truths somehow gain your propagandist-in-chief any clout? 44 out of 45 POTUS' would not have wasted their time; reserving communications with the public for challenges requiring true leadership - rather than no-brainer decisions like this which the populace should simply expect from a leader. 
    I suppose you can't even respect this tweet.  Cmon man he is your President give him some credit when due.


    I respect that tweet just fine. Why? BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT A PRESIDENT IS SUPPOSED TO SAY! 
    Christ. If he proclaimed that he shit and then wiped, it'd be the same as that tweet you mentioned. People of a certain age and capability wipe their own ass. Just as elected leaders state comments like the one above when crisis hits. Isn't the right big on making fun of participation trophies- yet any time this guy does something on a 101 level of human decency, we are supposed to show massive respect. Talk like that every day in every tweet or speech, and you'll gain some respect. 

  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,301
    Isn't Texas a red state? Don't red state governments espouse small government, much lower federal tax rates and state's rights? Also, an aversion to a large meddling federal government? Then why are they relying on federal government welfare when a storm strikes? Posers.
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617


    Accepting of pardon is an admission of guilt and can be used in civil suits.
    Yup. I'm surprised this hasn't been a bigger angle in the news. 
    People are hopefully going to sue the crap out of that racist xenophobic white nationalist. 
    In this instance I'm referring to Arpaio
    Not tRump
    http://statelaws.findlaw.com/arizona-law/arizona-civil-statute-of-limitations-laws.html

    most of the terrible things sheriff Joe did were years ago, maybe there is still time for some
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,301
    JC29856 said:


    Accepting of pardon is an admission of guilt and can be used in civil suits.
    Yup. I'm surprised this hasn't been a bigger angle in the news. 
    People are hopefully going to sue the crap out of that racist xenophobic white nationalist. 
    In this instance I'm referring to Arpaio
    Not tRump
    http://statelaws.findlaw.com/arizona-law/arizona-civil-statute-of-limitations-laws.html

    most of the terrible things sheriff Joe did were years ago, maybe there is still time for some
    Once a white supremacist, always a white supremacist. It's in the genes.
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    he once handcuffed a women inmate in labor to the bed, cuffed giving birth!
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,301
    JC29856 said:
    he once handcuffed a women inmate in labor to the bed, cuffed giving birth!
    Kinky, huh?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,301
    JC29856 said:
    he once handcuffed a women inmate in labor to the bed, cuffed giving birth!
    Kinky, huh?
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  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,052
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,668
    Trump should just go all in.  Start pardoning the worst of the worst so he can create a villian league
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,466
    Millions of people are in danger and big boy president is tweeting about the next person he will pardon's book this morning (of course we all know he has not read it). 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,466
    benjs said:
    How can anyone here dispute this latest tweet?  Seriously

    At the request of the Governor of Texas, I have signed the Disaster Proclamation, which unleashes the full force of government help!


    How can anyone here dispute the tweet that I just made (below in bold)? Seriously

    I went to the washroom earlier today, which unleashed the full force of my bowels!

    Why does a benign factual statement amidst a sea of lies/half-truths somehow gain your propagandist-in-chief any clout? 44 out of 45 POTUS' would not have wasted their time; reserving communications with the public for challenges requiring true leadership - rather than no-brainer decisions like this which the populace should simply expect from a leader. 
    I suppose you can't even respect this tweet.  Cmon man he is your President give him some credit when due.


    I respect that tweet just fine. Why? BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT A PRESIDENT IS SUPPOSED TO SAY! 
    Christ. If he proclaimed that he shit and then wiped, it'd be the same as that tweet you mentioned. People of a certain age and capability wipe their own ass. Just as elected leaders state comments like the one above when crisis hits. Isn't the right big on making fun of participation trophies- yet any time this guy does something on a 101 level of human decency, we are supposed to show massive respect. Talk like that every day in every tweet or speech, and you'll gain some respect. 

    The only reason he (or whomever controlled his account during the storm) tweeted like that was to distract from him pardoning a racist sheriff. 
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    remember the hate group post and illustrations a few pages back, the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) may apply hate too liberally.

    https://pjmedia.com/faith/2017/08/23/d-james-kennedy-ministries-sues-splc-guidestar-and-amazon-for-defamation/amp/

    The lawsuit laid out charges against the SPLC, GuideStar, and Amazon. "SPLC acted knowingly, intentionally, and with actual malice in publishing the Hate Map that included the Ministry and in publishing the SPLC Transmissions to GuideStar that included the ministry," the suit alleged. "SPLC's conduct in making these publications was beyond the reckless disregard for the truth standard required by Alabama law for punitive damages."
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,466
    JC29856 said:
    remember the hate group post and illustrations a few pages back, the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) may apply hate too liberally.

    https://pjmedia.com/faith/2017/08/23/d-james-kennedy-ministries-sues-splc-guidestar-and-amazon-for-defamation/amp/

    The lawsuit laid out charges against the SPLC, GuideStar, and Amazon. "SPLC acted knowingly, intentionally, and with actual malice in publishing the Hate Map that included the Ministry and in publishing the SPLC Transmissions to GuideStar that included the ministry," the suit alleged. "SPLC's conduct in making these publications was beyond the reckless disregard for the truth standard required by Alabama law for punitive damages."
    IT'S ON! TUCKER'S ON THE CASE! WOOO!
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  • I want Donald in the ring with Obama.

    He talks like he's super tough. Let's see those orange fists of fury walk the walk.

    Vroom vroom.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,466

    I want Donald in the ring with Obama.

    He talks like he's super tough. Let's see those orange fists of fury walk the walk.

    Vroom vroom.
    TKO first round. Big boy would be winded 30 seconds in
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    JC29856 said:
    remember the hate group post and illustrations a few pages back, the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) may apply hate too liberally.

    https://pjmedia.com/faith/2017/08/23/d-james-kennedy-ministries-sues-splc-guidestar-and-amazon-for-defamation/amp/

    The lawsuit laid out charges against the SPLC, GuideStar, and Amazon. "SPLC acted knowingly, intentionally, and with actual malice in publishing the Hate Map that included the Ministry and in publishing the SPLC Transmissions to GuideStar that included the ministry," the suit alleged. "SPLC's conduct in making these publications was beyond the reckless disregard for the truth standard required by Alabama law for punitive damages."
    IT'S ON! TUCKER'S ON THE CASE! WOOO!
    https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/08/25/king-of-the-hate-business-inside-the-southern-poverty-law-center/

    As of October 2008 the net assets of the SPLC were $170,240,129, The merchant of hate himself, Mr. Dees, was paid an annual $273,132 as chief trial counsel, and the SPLC’s president and CEO, Richard Cohen, $290,193. Total revenue in 2007 was $44,727,257 and program expenses $20,804,536. In other words, the Southern Poverty Law Center was raising twice as much as it was spending on its proclaimed mission. Fund-raising and administrative expenses accounted for $9 million, leaving $14 million to be put in the center’s vast asset portfolio.
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