Donald Trump

mickeyrat · December 2022

Gern Blansten said:

The audit thing bothers me...the IRS is supposed to audit the president's return every year. tRump clearly avoided that until someone questioned it and then an audit started.

And we are to believe that the audits of Comey and McCabe were random? Fuck this...this warrants its own investigation into Mnuchin and the IRS director Rettig.

agree. wont happen before jan 3 though.

Gern Blansten · December 2022

mickeyrat said:

Gern Blansten said:

The audit thing bothers me...the IRS is supposed to audit the president's return every year. tRump clearly avoided that until someone questioned it and then an audit started.

And we are to believe that the audits of Comey and McCabe were random? Fuck this...this warrants its own investigation into Mnuchin and the IRS director Rettig.

agree. wont happen before jan 3 though.

And Rettig owned two properties (condos I assume) in a tRump resort and rents them out, etc.

He supposedly bought the properties years ago but holy shit what a conflict.

gimmesometruth27 · December 2022

i would bet that the person responsible for preparing and filing dump's taxes will go down before trump ever does. trump could just say "he told me to take that deduction!!!!"

Gern Blansten · December 2022

gimmesometruth27 said:

i would bet that the person responsible for preparing and filing dump's taxes will go down before trump ever does. trump could just say "he told me to take that deduction!!!!"

I assume it was Mazar's that prepared them....they are the firm that issued the "we don't have faith that any financial statements we issued are accurate" statement a few years ago.

Halifax2TheMax · December 2022

DJT Aerospace LLC? Are you fucking kidding me? 600 shell companies and they’re all legitimate. 100% legit. Too legit to quit.

Halifax2TheMax · December 2022

mickeyrat said:

Gern Blansten said:

The audit thing bothers me...the IRS is supposed to audit the president's return every year. tRump clearly avoided that until someone questioned it and then an audit started.

And we are to believe that the audits of Comey and McCabe were random? Fuck this...this warrants its own investigation into Mnuchin and the IRS director Rettig.

agree. wont happen before jan 3 though.

Senate Finance Committee should open an investigation in the new term. Sheldon Whitehouse is very capable at following the money.

ikiT · December 2022

How much did income he make off Hydroxychloroquine?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZYiS05FmiQ

Halifax2TheMax · December 2022

ikiT said:

How much did income he make off Hydroxychloroquine?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZYiS05FmiQ

“Good, bad or indifferent.” I can’t believe ‘Murica elected that putz. And a sizeable portion still loves him.

josevolution · December 2022

Halifax2TheMax said:

ikiT said:

How much did income he make off Hydroxychloroquine?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZYiS05FmiQ

“Good, bad or indifferent.” I can’t believe ‘Murica elected that putz. And a sizeable portion still loves him.

It’s actually sickening that we live amongst so many deplorable’s I know I do Long Island is full of them

Lerxst1992 · December 2022

mrussel1 said:

mickeyrat said:

mrussel1 said:

mickeyrat said:

ownership of hotel properties where foreign governments are putting money in your fucking pocket would kinda go against the emoulments clause of the Constitution of the United States. You know, that document elected members of government swear to uphold preserve and or defend , including the president?

maybe I'm reading our founding document wrong.

I think the hotels he owns are public knowledge. Tax returns are not going to show which gov't are staying the night at the hotels.

what you think or what I think is really irrelevant. Is Congress within its purview to release records such as these by law. Seems they can. And should.

I agree that it's up to the Ways and Means committee now, but I'm not sure it is helpful to release the taxes of a private citizen. I'm sure it will be weaponized by the right in some way.

Coming back to this point my old pal Suozzi (on the w and m committee, for at least a few more hours) clued me into a little fact I wasn’t sure about..that all presidents are subject to mandatory tax audits, and despite trump claiming he was, and that was the reason he wasn’t releasing his taxes publicly, never in fact was audited by the irs.

so we have level on top of level of potential crimes. Did Mnuchin forget to perform the audit, or was he coerced not to do so? Secondly, any violations of law such as emoluments clause, should we reward presidents for this behavior, by giving them incentive to run out the clock and say “too bad clock ran out, I am no longer subject to public scrutiny!” Nothing like 700 million eyeballs to keep future presidential candidates honest on their taxes and financial relationships, both domestic and international . Too bad many Americans disagree.

mrussel1 · December 2022

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

mickeyrat said:

mrussel1 said:

mickeyrat said:

ownership of hotel properties where foreign governments are putting money in your fucking pocket would kinda go against the emoulments clause of the Constitution of the United States. You know, that document elected members of government swear to uphold preserve and or defend , including the president?

maybe I'm reading our founding document wrong.

I think the hotels he owns are public knowledge. Tax returns are not going to show which gov't are staying the night at the hotels.

what you think or what I think is really irrelevant. Is Congress within its purview to release records such as these by law. Seems they can. And should.

I agree that it's up to the Ways and Means committee now, but I'm not sure it is helpful to release the taxes of a private citizen. I'm sure it will be weaponized by the right in some way.

Coming back to this point my old pal Suozzi (on the w and m committee, for at least a few more hours) clued me into a little fact I wasn’t sure about..that all presidents are subject to mandatory tax audits, and despite trump claiming he was, and that was the reason he wasn’t releasing his taxes publicly, never in fact was audited by the irs.

so we have level on top of level of potential crimes. Did Mnuchin forget to perform the audit, or was he coerced not to do so? Secondly, any violations of law such as emoluments clause, should we reward presidents for this behavior, by giving them incentive to run out the clock and say “too bad clock ran out, I am no longer subject to public scrutiny!” Nothing like 700 million eyeballs to keep future presidential candidates honest on their taxes and financial relationships, both domestic and international . Too bad many Americans disagree.

Yes, the IRS failed in its obligations. I'm not sure that means the taxes need to be released in order to hammer the IRS.

Lerxst1992 · December 2022

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

mickeyrat said:

mrussel1 said:

mickeyrat said:

ownership of hotel properties where foreign governments are putting money in your fucking pocket would kinda go against the emoulments clause of the Constitution of the United States. You know, that document elected members of government swear to uphold preserve and or defend , including the president?

maybe I'm reading our founding document wrong.

I think the hotels he owns are public knowledge. Tax returns are not going to show which gov't are staying the night at the hotels.

what you think or what I think is really irrelevant. Is Congress within its purview to release records such as these by law. Seems they can. And should.

I agree that it's up to the Ways and Means committee now, but I'm not sure it is helpful to release the taxes of a private citizen. I'm sure it will be weaponized by the right in some way.

Coming back to this point my old pal Suozzi (on the w and m committee, for at least a few more hours) clued me into a little fact I wasn’t sure about..that all presidents are subject to mandatory tax audits, and despite trump claiming he was, and that was the reason he wasn’t releasing his taxes publicly, never in fact was audited by the irs.

so we have level on top of level of potential crimes. Did Mnuchin forget to perform the audit, or was he coerced not to do so? Secondly, any violations of law such as emoluments clause, should we reward presidents for this behavior, by giving them incentive to run out the clock and say “too bad clock ran out, I am no longer subject to public scrutiny!” Nothing like 700 million eyeballs to keep future presidential candidates honest on their taxes and financial relationships, both domestic and international . Too bad many Americans disagree.

Yes, the IRS failed in its obligations. I'm not sure that means the taxes need to be released in order to hammer the IRS.

I don’t care about hammering the IRS. If Trump coerced his minions to not follow law, then yes, laws need to be enforced. But if we let the clock run out on trump releasing taxes, what’s to stop DeSantis from financial irregularities and lying about it publicly? Let’s have Putin help pick the next president. Or maybe MBS. Might as well have a ceremony and burn the emoluments clause. The official one at the national archives, not some fake housed at the now closed ten club warehouse. Let’s destroy it if we ain’t enforcing it.

Let the trumpsters like @lindamarie73 see what their votes are doing to the constitution

Not really sure why we have any laws if some of the most important ones impacting the most important people are not enforced.

mrussel1 · December 2022

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

mickeyrat said:

mrussel1 said:

mickeyrat said:

ownership of hotel properties where foreign governments are putting money in your fucking pocket would kinda go against the emoulments clause of the Constitution of the United States. You know, that document elected members of government swear to uphold preserve and or defend , including the president?

maybe I'm reading our founding document wrong.

I think the hotels he owns are public knowledge. Tax returns are not going to show which gov't are staying the night at the hotels.

what you think or what I think is really irrelevant. Is Congress within its purview to release records such as these by law. Seems they can. And should.

I agree that it's up to the Ways and Means committee now, but I'm not sure it is helpful to release the taxes of a private citizen. I'm sure it will be weaponized by the right in some way.

Coming back to this point my old pal Suozzi (on the w and m committee, for at least a few more hours) clued me into a little fact I wasn’t sure about..that all presidents are subject to mandatory tax audits, and despite trump claiming he was, and that was the reason he wasn’t releasing his taxes publicly, never in fact was audited by the irs.

so we have level on top of level of potential crimes. Did Mnuchin forget to perform the audit, or was he coerced not to do so? Secondly, any violations of law such as emoluments clause, should we reward presidents for this behavior, by giving them incentive to run out the clock and say “too bad clock ran out, I am no longer subject to public scrutiny!” Nothing like 700 million eyeballs to keep future presidential candidates honest on their taxes and financial relationships, both domestic and international . Too bad many Americans disagree.

Yes, the IRS failed in its obligations. I'm not sure that means the taxes need to be released in order to hammer the IRS.

I don’t care about hammering the IRS. If Trump coerced his minions to not follow law, then yes, laws need to be enforced. But if we let the clock run out on trump releasing taxes, what’s to stop DeSantis from financial irregularities and lying about it publicly? Let’s have Putin help pick the next president. Or maybe MBS. Might as well have a ceremony and burn the emoluments clause. The official one at the national archives, not some fake housed at the now closed ten club warehouse. Let’s destroy it if we ain’t enforcing it.

Let the trumpsters like @lindamarie73 see what their votes are doing to the constitution

Not really sure why we have any laws if some of the most important ones impacting the most important people are not enforced.

No laws were broken though. The IRS issue is a policy break, not a law. And releasing them now doesn't change any calculation for Desantis. If you're hiding something, you're not going to release them.

Halifax2TheMax · December 2022

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

mickeyrat said:

mrussel1 said:

mickeyrat said:

ownership of hotel properties where foreign governments are putting money in your fucking pocket would kinda go against the emoulments clause of the Constitution of the United States. You know, that document elected members of government swear to uphold preserve and or defend , including the president?

maybe I'm reading our founding document wrong.

I think the hotels he owns are public knowledge. Tax returns are not going to show which gov't are staying the night at the hotels.

what you think or what I think is really irrelevant. Is Congress within its purview to release records such as these by law. Seems they can. And should.

I agree that it's up to the Ways and Means committee now, but I'm not sure it is helpful to release the taxes of a private citizen. I'm sure it will be weaponized by the right in some way.

Coming back to this point my old pal Suozzi (on the w and m committee, for at least a few more hours) clued me into a little fact I wasn’t sure about..that all presidents are subject to mandatory tax audits, and despite trump claiming he was, and that was the reason he wasn’t releasing his taxes publicly, never in fact was audited by the irs.

so we have level on top of level of potential crimes. Did Mnuchin forget to perform the audit, or was he coerced not to do so? Secondly, any violations of law such as emoluments clause, should we reward presidents for this behavior, by giving them incentive to run out the clock and say “too bad clock ran out, I am no longer subject to public scrutiny!” Nothing like 700 million eyeballs to keep future presidential candidates honest on their taxes and financial relationships, both domestic and international . Too bad many Americans disagree.

Yes, the IRS failed in its obligations. I'm not sure that means the taxes need to be released in order to hammer the IRS.

I don’t care about hammering the IRS. If Trump coerced his minions to not follow law, then yes, laws need to be enforced. But if we let the clock run out on trump releasing taxes, what’s to stop DeSantis from financial irregularities and lying about it publicly? Let’s have Putin help pick the next president. Or maybe MBS. Might as well have a ceremony and burn the emoluments clause. The official one at the national archives, not some fake housed at the now closed ten club warehouse. Let’s destroy it if we ain’t enforcing it.

Let the trumpsters like @lindamarie73 see what their votes are doing to the constitution

Not really sure why we have any laws if some of the most important ones impacting the most important people are not enforced.

No laws were broken though. The IRS issue is a policy break, not a law. And releasing them now doesn't change any calculation for Desantis. If you're hiding something, you're not going to release them.

Has that been definitively determined?

Halifax2TheMax · December 2022

Does anyone remember connecting the dots? Dots are fun, boys and girls! Now, I'm going to go enjoy my Pee Not Nory. Toodles.

80a91be4-ca85-495c-9394-3405a9477cf4.pdf (wapo.pub)

mickeyrat · December 2022

Halifax2TheMax said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

mickeyrat said:

mrussel1 said:

mickeyrat said:

ownership of hotel properties where foreign governments are putting money in your fucking pocket would kinda go against the emoulments clause of the Constitution of the United States. You know, that document elected members of government swear to uphold preserve and or defend , including the president?

maybe I'm reading our founding document wrong.

I think the hotels he owns are public knowledge. Tax returns are not going to show which gov't are staying the night at the hotels.

what you think or what I think is really irrelevant. Is Congress within its purview to release records such as these by law. Seems they can. And should.

I agree that it's up to the Ways and Means committee now, but I'm not sure it is helpful to release the taxes of a private citizen. I'm sure it will be weaponized by the right in some way.

Coming back to this point my old pal Suozzi (on the w and m committee, for at least a few more hours) clued me into a little fact I wasn’t sure about..that all presidents are subject to mandatory tax audits, and despite trump claiming he was, and that was the reason he wasn’t releasing his taxes publicly, never in fact was audited by the irs.

so we have level on top of level of potential crimes. Did Mnuchin forget to perform the audit, or was he coerced not to do so? Secondly, any violations of law such as emoluments clause, should we reward presidents for this behavior, by giving them incentive to run out the clock and say “too bad clock ran out, I am no longer subject to public scrutiny!” Nothing like 700 million eyeballs to keep future presidential candidates honest on their taxes and financial relationships, both domestic and international . Too bad many Americans disagree.

Yes, the IRS failed in its obligations. I'm not sure that means the taxes need to be released in order to hammer the IRS.

I don’t care about hammering the IRS. If Trump coerced his minions to not follow law, then yes, laws need to be enforced. But if we let the clock run out on trump releasing taxes, what’s to stop DeSantis from financial irregularities and lying about it publicly? Let’s have Putin help pick the next president. Or maybe MBS. Might as well have a ceremony and burn the emoluments clause. The official one at the national archives, not some fake housed at the now closed ten club warehouse. Let’s destroy it if we ain’t enforcing it.

Let the trumpsters like @lindamarie73 see what their votes are doing to the constitution

Not really sure why we have any laws if some of the most important ones impacting the most important people are not enforced.

No laws were broken though. The IRS issue is a policy break, not a law. And releasing them now doesn't change any calculation for Desantis. If you're hiding something, you're not going to release them.

Has that been definitively determined?

its an internal rule. so rule broken, yes. law broken , no(at least in this regard) now if the reason for the lack of action was pressure from WH or Sec of Treasury then there is something there, no sure what though. abuse of power?