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Mark Zuckerberg says social networks should not be fact-checking political speech
“I don’t think that Facebook or internet platforms in general should be arbiters of truth,” Zuckerberg told Sorkin in an interview that aired Thursday morning. “Political speech is one of the most sensitive parts in a democracy, and people should be able to see what politicians say.”
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/28/zuckerberg-facebook-twitter-should-not-fact-check-political-speech.html
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fucking cesspool.ikiT said:Mark Zuckerberg says social networks should not be fact-checking political speech
“I don’t think that Facebook or internet platforms in general should be arbiters of truth,” Zuckerberg told Sorkin in an interview that aired Thursday morning. “Political speech is one of the most sensitive parts in a democracy, and people should be able to see what politicians say.”
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/28/zuckerberg-facebook-twitter-should-not-fact-check-political-speech.html
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Twitter really should suspend the realdonaldtrump account OR they should label EVERYTHING he says. Fact check him in real time.
They got terms of service and he's been violating them for a long time. He don't like it? Find another platform. No one is guaranteed a Twitter account. Fuck that guy.Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 061320180 -
Maybe he should start a facebook group. See what happens.Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 061320180
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I agree. People should just get off social networks. No users no power. “But it’s so easy” “everybody does it today”. “Live in the present” anyone that uses twitter, Facebook, Snapchat, insta etc and complains about the platform not monitoring speech doesn’t have a leg to stand on. Leave the network. It’s easyikiT said:Mark Zuckerberg says social networks should not be fact-checking political speech
“I don’t think that Facebook or internet platforms in general should be arbiters of truth,” Zuckerberg told Sorkin in an interview that aired Thursday morning. “Political speech is one of the most sensitive parts in a democracy, and people should be able to see what politicians say.”
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/28/zuckerberg-facebook-twitter-should-not-fact-check-political-speech.htmlScio me nihil scire
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Zuck is going to go down as an unwitting architect of authoritarianism.
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Drain the swamp? Yea, sure. While everyone is distracted by the twitter and faceturd sewer, the real shizzy is happening here. Nothing like buying the whole federal judiciary with those needed tax cuts. Suckers.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/05/28/trump-retweets-video-saying-only-good-democrat-is-dead-democrat/May 28, 2020 at 10:51 a.m. EDTIf there was ever a tweet tailor-made for promotion by President Trump, it might be this one: A video by an account called “Cowboys for Trump” in which the speaker begins by saying, “The only good Democrat is a dead Democrat.” The speaker quickly qualifies that he’s not speaking literally.
At precisely midnight, the president felt this was the kind of message that people needed to see. “Thank you Cowboys. See you in New Mexico!” he said in a retweet.
Thank you Cowboys. See you in New Mexico! https://twitter.com/ridewithc4t/status/1265797359906091008 …
19.7K people are talking about thisWhat lay ahead was entirely predictable. People are rightly pointing out that a president just promoted the idea of dead Democrats. Trump will have the kind of plausible deniability he craves — the guy even said he wasn’t being literal! — and the world will keep turning.
But the speaker has also made clear he wasn’t being entirely figurative. And Trump’s history with this kind of thing makes clear he knows exactly what he’s injecting into the national dialogue.
The video is actually more than a week old, having caused a stir back then. The speaker, an Otero County, N.M., commissioner named Couy Griffin, has already been disavowed by the New Mexico Republican Party, even if he was just speaking figuratively.
The Republican Party of New Mexico wants to state for the record that any statements, whether in jest or serious about harming another individual are just plain wrong.
99 people are talking about this“The Republican Party of New Mexico wants to state for the record that any statements, whether in jest or serious about harming another individual are just plain wrong,” the party said in a tweet on May 20. The Young Republicans of New Mexico have also called for him to apologize.
Griffin initially declined to back down and claimed persecution, though he eventually said he “could’ve chosen a different verbiage, you know. I guess I need to be more careful when I choose the words that I speak.”
But his other comments indicated he’s not entirely discounting the idea of violence or dead Democrats.
In the same remarks, Griffin said that a “Plan B” after “Plan A” of winning elections would be some kind of uprising. “If we have to get shoulder-to-shoulder and create posses and stand shoulder-to-shoulder with our great sheriffs, we’ll fight you at the county lines, but we’re not letting you have our guns,” he said.
He was later asked by the Daily Beast whether protesters against coronavirus-related restrictions might resort to violence, and responded, “I’ll tell you what, partner, as far as I’m concerned, there’s not an option that’s not on the table.”
In the same interview, Griffin also suggested certain top Democrats might be executed for treason, citing Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D) and Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam (D).
“You get to pick your poison: You either go before a firing squad, or you get the end of the rope,” Griffin said.
It’s exactly the kind of thing Trump does: He’s saying this thing, but he’s also saying that he’s not really saying this thing, and it’s your fault for misinterpreting.
But if there were any doubt that Trump was deliberately injecting this into the national dialogue, you only need to look at how many times he’s done this before.
Early in the 2016 election, Trump downplayed Russian President Vladimir Putin’s killing of journalists by saying the United States kills people, too. He would later repeatedly and conspicuously allude to the idea that he himself would kill journalists — while making sure to dismiss it.
“And then they said, you know, [Putin has] killed reporters, and I don’t like that. I’m totally against that,” Trump said. “By the way, I hate some of these people, but I’d never kill him. I hate them. No, I think — no, these people, honestly — I’ll be honest, I’ll be honest. I would never kill them. I would never do that.”
Trump then jokingly suggested he might reconsider. “Uh, let’s see. Meh?” he said. “No, I wouldn’t. I would never kill them.”
(Trump during a meeting with Putin in 2019 would seemingly return to this idea, saying “Get rid of them” about journalists he didn’t like and saying, “You don’t have this problem in Russia.”)
Trump also bonded with Putin over a scorn for journalists.
“Get rid of them. Fake news is a great term, isn't it? You don’t have this problem in Russia, but we do.”
“We also have,” Putin answered, in English. “It’s the same.”
They shared a chuckle.7,080 people are talking about thisLater in the 2016 campaign, Trump obliquely referred to an armed uprising against Hillary Clinton’s judicial picks, saying there would be nothing you could do about them — “Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is. I don’t know.”
In 2019 at a rally, Trump asked what could be done about immigrants crossing the border illegally, to which one rallygoer responded, “Shoot them.” Trump replied, “That’s only in the Panhandle can you get away with that statement.”
After the tragedy in Charlottesville in 2017, Trump retweeted and then deleted a video depicting a train running over a CNN reporter.
In 2019, Trump also toyed with the idea of the military, police and Bikers for Trump getting violent with Antifa. “I can tell you I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump — I have the tough people, but they don’t play it tough — until they go to a certain point, and then it would be very bad, very bad.” He offered similar comments at a rally in Missouri, saying: “But they’re peaceful people, and Antifa and all — they’d better hope they stay that way. I hope they stay that way. I hope they stay that way.”
He hopes they stay that way, but he’s happy to repeatedly raise the specter of violence against people he dislikes — while clarifying that he’s not advocating it. Plenty of people will believe these musing are being exaggerated and taken out of context, but the thrust of all of them is unmistakable and consistent. It’s like that old, stereotypical mafia expression, “It’d be a shame if something happened to XYZ.”
It’s the same trick Griffin played in the video, and it’s the kind of rhetoric that, however hedged, is clearly purposeful and part of a long-running calculation.
As I wrote after the bikers comment:
The idea that anything like the scenes Trump is describing would ever happen is difficult to believe. But that’s not really the point. Musing about this kind of thing is a great way to plant a seed in certain people’s minds, and the fact that Trump keeps fertilizing that seed shouldn’t escape notice.Post edited by Halifax2TheMax on09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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i got a long twitter jail sentence for quoting samantha bee in relation to tomi lahren. i then had to delete the tweet.
trump can threaten war against north korea and nothing happens to him. they do not even make him delete the tweet
i have reported maybe 50 of his tweets for inciting racism, violence, and spreading outright lies and propaganda and nothing.
clearly 2 sets of rules in effect on that platform."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
gimmesometruth27 said:i got a long twitter jail sentence for quoting samantha bee in relation to tomi lahren. i then had to delete the tweet.
trump can threaten war against north korea and nothing happens to him. they do not even make him delete the tweet
i have reported maybe 50 of his tweets for inciting racism, violence, and spreading outright lies and propaganda and nothing.
clearly 2 sets of rules in effect on that platform.
Trump makes Twitter money. You don't.
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on the contrary, my 60 followers drive all kinds of traffic to that hellhole of a site, hahaOnWis97 said:gimmesometruth27 said:i got a long twitter jail sentence for quoting samantha bee in relation to tomi lahren. i then had to delete the tweet.
trump can threaten war against north korea and nothing happens to him. they do not even make him delete the tweet
i have reported maybe 50 of his tweets for inciting racism, violence, and spreading outright lies and propaganda and nothing.
clearly 2 sets of rules in effect on that platform.
Trump makes Twitter money. You don't."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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LOL....I got banned for calling Jill Stein a "Sea Hag"gimmesometruth27 said:i got a long twitter jail sentence for quoting samantha bee in relation to tomi lahren. i then had to delete the tweet.
trump can threaten war against north korea and nothing happens to him. they do not even make him delete the tweet
i have reported maybe 50 of his tweets for inciting racism, violence, and spreading outright lies and propaganda and nothing.
clearly 2 sets of rules in effect on that platform.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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if you had called her sleepy, or rocket man, or fake you would have been fine.Gern Blansten said:
LOL....I got banned for calling Jill Stein a "Sea Hag"gimmesometruth27 said:i got a long twitter jail sentence for quoting samantha bee in relation to tomi lahren. i then had to delete the tweet.
trump can threaten war against north korea and nothing happens to him. they do not even make him delete the tweet
i have reported maybe 50 of his tweets for inciting racism, violence, and spreading outright lies and propaganda and nothing.
clearly 2 sets of rules in effect on that platform."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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i think trump wants to get banned. that way they can do their own "oppressed conservative' social media app, kind of like a "spite store twitter".
that way they can use the "oppressed conservative" narrative on the campaign trail."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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This whole Trump/Twitter business is a clear reflection of what a total embarrassment this current POTUS is and the fools who continue to support him. True, they are in the minority, but there are so many of them as to create a nation worthy of being ashamed of. Other than maybe the McCarthy era and the age of slavery, I cannot think of any time this country has been more of a cesspool of idiocy. It's completely shameful. How did we breed so many idiots?
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Don't look at me I got snipped years agobrianlux said:This whole Trump/Twitter business is a clear reflection of what a total embarrassment this current POTUS is and the fools who continue to support him. True, they are in the minority, but there are so many of them as to create a nation worthy of being ashamed of. Other than maybe the McCarthy era and the age of slavery, I cannot think of any time this country has been more of a cesspool of idiocy. It's completely shameful. How did we breed so many idiots?0 -
just imagine what the fuck is going to happen if he loses.brianlux said:This whole Trump/Twitter business is a clear reflection of what a total embarrassment this current POTUS is and the fools who continue to support him. True, they are in the minority, but there are so many of them as to create a nation worthy of being ashamed of. Other than maybe the McCarthy era and the age of slavery, I cannot think of any time this country has been more of a cesspool of idiocy. It's completely shameful. How did we breed so many idiots?By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
White people gonna rise up and take back mericaHughFreakingDillon said:
just imagine what the fuck is going to happen if he loses.brianlux said:This whole Trump/Twitter business is a clear reflection of what a total embarrassment this current POTUS is and the fools who continue to support him. True, they are in the minority, but there are so many of them as to create a nation worthy of being ashamed of. Other than maybe the McCarthy era and the age of slavery, I cannot think of any time this country has been more of a cesspool of idiocy. It's completely shameful. How did we breed so many idiots?0
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