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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Team Trump Treason is going to get fewer votes from 65+, women, minorities, veterans, LGBQT and active duty military. He might gain in the incel and angry white males 24-44 demographics. 
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Team Trump Treason is going to get fewer votes from 65+, women, minorities, veterans, LGBQT and active duty military. He might gain in the incel and angry white males 24-44 demographics. 

    Is he?  Without looking at the numbers, I don't think he really can get fewer from minorities and LGBQT; he must have been really poor with them last time.  Veterans and military?  His disrespect of them won't matter; that was evident in 2016.  I don't know that I see that changing a lot. The three in play are:
    • 65+.  This might be the biggest wild card.  Old people tend to vote GOP and the GOP tends to be Trump First.  But I know his numbers have been suffer in that group and he doesn't seem to be interested in keeping them alive.
    • Women. Like with the military, it's hard to imagine anyone that was OK with his misogyny in 2016 has somehow been moved by something since. I really don't see him not winning the white woman vote again.
    • Incel/Angry white.  They all voted for him so the percentage doesn't budge.  The question is whether the group's now bigger since Trump has given sad/angry people something to latch on to...so that could be a few for him.
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    edited May 2020

    His silence on the racial problems that are happening now and will happen all summer?  Problematic.  When he starts talking it's going to get worse.

    I see Trumpito getting stomped like in American History X.  He's a douchebag.
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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,956
    Who is #1 at getting the biggest shellacking in Presidential election history? Maybe soul-eater can be #1 and make a new record at that? He's definitely not well-loved.

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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,991
    edited May 2020
    Kat said:
    Who is #1 at getting the biggest shellacking in Presidential election history? Maybe soul-eater can be #1 and make a new record at that? He's definitely not well-loved.

    Probably George McGovern in ‘72. No way Trump loses that badly. It’d be nearly impossible. 

    Edit: Actually it was Montale in ''84 who got beat by Reagan even worse than McGovern did by Nixon. 

    Even if Trump were to get killed, he'll carry a few red states for sure. Montdale and McGovern won only one state each. 
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  • mrussel1
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    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Kat said:
    Who is #1 at getting the biggest shellacking in Presidential election history? Maybe soul-eater can be #1 and make a new record at that? He's definitely not well-loved.

    Probably George McGovern in ‘72. No way Trump loses that badly. It’d be nearly impossible. 

    Edit: Actually it was Montale in ''84 who got beat by Reagan even worse than McGovern did by Nixon. 

    Even if Trump were to get killed, he'll carry a few red states for sure. Montdale and McGovern won only one state each. 
    It's a different time and place.  You won't see those types of shellackings any time soon.  We're too partisan and too few states are in play.  
  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,956
    And, just in case anyone needs to know about the word, shellacking...  :lol:

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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,956
    All of a sudden soul-eater is not happy with Twitter.



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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    edited May 2020
    OnWis97 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Team Trump Treason is going to get fewer votes from 65+, women, minorities, veterans, LGBQT and active duty military. He might gain in the incel and angry white males 24-44 demographics. 

    Is he?  Without looking at the numbers, I don't think he really can get fewer from minorities and LGBQT; he must have been really poor with them last time.  Veterans and military?  His disrespect of them won't matter; that was evident in 2016.  I don't know that I see that changing a lot. The three in play are:
    • 65+.  This might be the biggest wild card.  Old people tend to vote GOP and the GOP tends to be Trump First.  But I know his numbers have been suffer in that group and he doesn't seem to be interested in keeping them alive.
    • Women. Like with the military, it's hard to imagine anyone that was OK with his misogyny in 2016 has somehow been moved by something since. I really don't see him not winning the white woman vote again.
    • Incel/Angry white.  They all voted for him so the percentage doesn't budge.  The question is whether the group's now bigger since Trump has given sad/angry people something to latch on to...so that could be a few for him.
    Hillary got 6% less of black vote than Obama did. Trump's not getting those folks. Biden always does well with minorities. 

    Trump is currently bleeding support from the 65+ crowd right now. He can thank his Covid response to this. 

    Women support Biden over Trump and, along with suburban voters were the reason the GOP lost the house two years ago. Biden is winning this demographic easily. 

    Angry white males---This is the only group Trump has sustained and might build upon.


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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    538 jumped from a 10.5 to an 11.1 gap in Team Trump Treason’s approval/disapproval in the past 3 days. 
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  • The Juggler
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    538 jumped from a 10.5 to an 11.1 gap in Team Trump Treason’s approval/disapproval in the past 3 days. 
    Wow Rasmussen is at 42% right now. Dude's flailing...
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    The Juggler said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    538 jumped from a 10.5 to an 11.1 gap in Team Trump Treason’s approval/disapproval in the past 3 days. 
    Wow Rasmussen is at 42% right now. Dude's flailing...
    But word on the street is that Obama is going to be indicted. Any. Day. Now.
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  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,229
    So, it's GREAT news that %20 lost their Jobs?


  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,153
    cutz said:
    So, it's GREAT news that %20 lost their Jobs?


    well they are the enemy of the people...
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  • mrussel1
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    I enjoy the Atlantic
  • ikiT
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    32%

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    Q
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    ikiT said:
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    LGBTA.
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  • tbergs
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    mrussel1 said:
    I enjoy the Atlantic
    Me too. I think he's got that assessment backwards. Seems the fake news program makes the most money because people love "reality TV" type journalism.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Bentleyspop
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    Her is a true patriotic texas supporter of the so-called president in action.... 

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