Donald Trump

chadwick

it's a shit circus

chadwick

if i were cameron i'd strongly consider wedging my drum kit up someone's fat fucking ass for awhile   

https://youtu.be/UCKKVtzAm2E

CM189191

Tiki said:

you Canadians lost me.

it's that damned metric system of counting votes I think

chadwick

trump is not at all our guy. it's simple mathematics any 2nd grader could understand   

benjs

CM189191 said:

Tiki said:

you Canadians lost me.

it's that damned metric system of counting votes I think

12 inches = 1 foot
3 feet = 1 yard
1760 yards = 1 mile

VS

10 millimetres = 1 centimetre
100 centimetres = 1 metre
1000 metres = 1 kilometre

Oh, that crazy, complicated metric system!

HesCalledDyer

Another way the US is behind the rest of the world.  Imperial measurements.

PJ_Soul

benjs said:

CM189191 said:

Tiki said:

you Canadians lost me.

it's that damned metric system of counting votes I think

12 inches = 1 foot
3 feet = 1 yard
1760 yards = 1 mile

VS

10 millimetres = 1 centimetre
100 centimetres = 1 metre
1000 metres = 1 kilometre

Oh, that crazy, complicated metric system!

Right?!? Why in the hell is the US still not using metric?? It's sooooo much simpler, and it would make so much more sense in so many ways.

benjs

HughFreakingDillon said:

benjs said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

3 divided by 538 is .0056

When you do that, to convert it to a percentage you must move the decimal point two places to the right. For example, 5/10 = 0.5 = 50%.

I shouldn't have quit coffee. Jesus. 

Funny you say that! I switched to tea a few months ago, and feel fantastic. Green and black tea contain a chemical called L-Theanine, which slows the release and consumption of caffeine in your system, waking you up and providing energy without the jolt and crash of coffee. 

HughFreakingDillon

HesCalledDyer said:

Another way the US is behind the rest of the world.  Imperial measurements.

yeah, but full disclosure: no one in canada (except the medical profession) measures their weight in kilograms or their height in meters. 

I'm still 6 feet tall and noneofyourdamnbusiness pounds. 

ikiT

There is no real reason that a primary voter in New Hampshire or South Carolina should have more lasting electoral power than the entire city of San Francisco.

One thing I can count on is power enjoying R's to stand up against the idea of one person one vote. They're too entrenched.

PJ_Soul

HughFreakingDillon said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Another way the US is behind the rest of the world.  Imperial measurements.

yeah, but full disclosure: no one in canada (except the medical profession) measures their weight in kilograms or their height in meters. 

I'm still 6 feet tall and noneofyourdamnbusiness pounds. 

True, and to be honest, I can't even remember how many kg I weight or how tall I am in cm. But the only reason we're still thinking about body measurements and sometimes distance/length in imperial terms is because of how ubiquitous the US's media is here. What's weird is that we mix it up so much. Canadians never ever think of volume in imperial terms, and we all very loyally stick with Celsius. I am not sure how or why we all seem to have naturally and uniformly adopted a weird mishmash of the two systems.

PJPOWER

Tiki said:

There is no real reason that a primary voter in New Hampshire or South Carolina should have more lasting electoral power than the entire city of San Francisco.

One thing I can count on is power enjoying R's to stand up against the idea of one person one vote. They're too entrenched.

So it makes sense for the city of San Francisco to have more voting weight than some states in their entirety?  Issues specific to San Francisco are very different from rural Wyoming and should not guide political pandering...there are local and state elections for that.

HughFreakingDillon

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Another way the US is behind the rest of the world.  Imperial measurements.

yeah, but full disclosure: no one in canada (except the medical profession) measures their weight in kilograms or their height in meters. 

I'm still 6 feet tall and noneofyourdamnbusiness pounds. 

True, and to be honest, I can't even remember how many kg I weight or how tall I am in cm. But the only reason we're still thinking about body measurements and sometimes distance/length in imperial terms is because of how ubiquitous the US's media is here. What's weird is that we mix it up so much. Canadians never ever think of volume in imperial terms, and we all very loyally stick with Celsius. I am not sure how or why we all seem to have naturally and uniformly adopted a weird mishmash of the two systems.

my dad still makes fun of me when he tells me the temperature in Fahrenheit and I have to ask him what the real temperature is. (I realize Fahrenheit is not imperial, but it is only used primarily in the US and everyone else switched to metric). 

CM189191

benjs said:

CM189191 said:

Tiki said:

you Canadians lost me.

it's that damned metric system of counting votes I think

12 inches = 1 foot
3 feet = 1 yard
1760 yards = 1 mile

VS

10 millimetres = 1 centimetre
100 centimetres = 1 metre
1000 metres = 1 kilometre

Oh, that crazy, complicated metric system!

it's way better than that

it takes 1 calorie to heat 1 gram of water by 1 degree Celsius
1 gram of water is also 1 cubic centimeter is also one milliliter

HesCalledDyer

I'm stealing that Stewie graphic.

CM189191

HesCalledDyer said:

I'm stealing that Stewie graphic.

why not, i did

benjs

CM189191 said:

benjs said:

CM189191 said:

Tiki said:

you Canadians lost me.

it's that damned metric system of counting votes I think

12 inches = 1 foot
3 feet = 1 yard
1760 yards = 1 mile

VS

10 millimetres = 1 centimetre
100 centimetres = 1 metre
1000 metres = 1 kilometre

Oh, that crazy, complicated metric system!

it's way better than that

it takes 1 calorie to heat 1 gram of water by 1 degree Celsius
1 gram of water is also 1 cubic centimeter is also one milliliter

I was sticking with basics, but yes, additional amazing features of the metric system.

mickeyrat

Mrs Trump?

Can we get a progress report on your campaign to end cyber bullying?

An anxious nation waits.

pjhawks

benjs said:

HesCalledDyer said:

benjs said:

Kat said:

benjs, I have the greatest respect for math whizzes and you made my eyes glaze over because I'm not one. I don't understand it and if that's the system, I have to agree with Gern that it has a big problem in today's world. Any thoughts on why it wouldn't be ok to just have an election by popular vote? That wouldn't favor one party over another, would it?

The challenge has always been to ensure smaller States don't lose all of their power, even if their population is low compared to others.

Wyoming, for example, has a population under 600,000. California, on the other hand, has over 38,000,000. The total US population is around 320,000,000, which means with a popular vote held today, California would have right to up to 12% of all voting power, while Wyoming would have a right to up to just under 0.2%. As America is urbanized, predominantly rural environments like Wyoming are destined to become an even smaller percentage of American population over time, so the question becomes: how do you break a promise made via the Constitution to Wyoming, that they will perpetually have a voice at the table, and a say in the direction of the country? I honestly don't think it's possible with a purely popular vote, and would love to be proven wrong.

Both states operate under a winner-take-all basis in the EC.  California has 10.23% of electoral votes (55/538) and Wyoming has 0.56% (3/538).  Apples. Oranges.

I'm not sure what point you're making. 

Today is Electoral College, Winner Takes All per State.
My proposal is to proportionally allocate Electoral College Votes to directly mirror how the population votes within the State, so that a maximum of 49.9% of voters who could today be ignored because of Winner Takes All, tomorrow could have a voice.
The Popular Vote, with such a disparity between the highest and lowest populations in the States, is certain to leave LA and NY with high representation in politics, and entire States like Wyoming with next to nil (when they're already only minimally represented). And once again, with the urbanization of America, rural States would be destined to further decrease their representation in politics if there's a direct proportionality to population alone. Not to mention that, as stated above, this is Constitutionally mandated. You thought the fight for abandoning gerrymandering was bad - wait until a vote to pivot to the Popular Vote is brought forward.

This is not apples and oranges, this is a comparison of valid competing ways to run a Presidential election.

Agree. I think the problem is not with the electoral college but the all or none allocation. as i stated before it can deem an area of a certain state unimportant when voting. it's need to be broken down more within each state as you stated.

RiotZact

Yeah as much as I hate what the EC did to us this time I've always been fascinated with how it works and why it's in place. I hope that it stays in place.