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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    Tiki said:
    what about Hillary is pretty stale.


    Look at his little, orange thumb.

    He has not put his god given gifts to work: this guy could be a nationally ranked thumb wrestler.
    Only if they have a flyweight division.
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    For completeness.....The start of his latest tweet


    A new INTELLIGENCE LEAK from the Amazon Washington Post,this time against A.G. Jeff Sessions.These illegal leaks, like Comey's, must stop!  The Failing New York Times foiled U.S. attempt to kill the single most wanted terrorist,Al-Baghdadi.Their sick agenda over National Security


  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,666
    Okay here's a little theory on the Sessions disclosure from the Post last night.  I said earlier yesterday that Trump was trying to force Sessions out using a "no confidence" type argument.  This could serve to his advantage because then he could install a new AG who would then oversee the Mueller investigation and kill it.
    So then last night the Post reports that intercepts report that Sessions did discuss the campaign with Kislyak who reported that information back to Moscow.  This is in direct contradiction to Sessions's under oath testimony.  If this is true, then these are crimes and certainly cause for removal.  
    I haven't heard anyone say it yet, but why wouldn't we think that Trump's minions would leak this information, to box Sessions in further?  Now he has cause.  He's crazy enough to do such a thing.  Guess we will have to wait and see.

     http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/21/politics/wapo-sessions-discussed-campaign-with-kislyak/index.html

  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    mrussel1 said:
    Okay here's a little theory on the Sessions disclosure from the Post last night.  I said earlier yesterday that Trump was trying to force Sessions out using a "no confidence" type argument.  This could serve to his advantage because then he could install a new AG who would then oversee the Mueller investigation and kill it.
    So then last night the Post reports that intercepts report that Sessions did discuss the campaign with Kislyak who reported that information back to Moscow.  This is in direct contradiction to Sessions's under oath testimony.  If this is true, then these are crimes and certainly cause for removal.  
    I haven't heard anyone say it yet, but why wouldn't we think that Trump's minions would leak this information, to box Sessions in further?  Now he has cause.  He's crazy enough to do such a thing.  Guess we will have to wait and see.

     http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/21/politics/wapo-sessions-discussed-campaign-with-kislyak/index.html

    We need to dispel the myth that Trump plays 3D chess. 

    This theory buys into that. This administration is never ahead and always behind, therefore I don't buy it.
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    It is such a nice breath of fresh air that a person at the highest level can just talk and say what they want.
    President Trump does that.


    That's what I'm afraid of. The things he says are horrifying.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,666
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Okay here's a little theory on the Sessions disclosure from the Post last night.  I said earlier yesterday that Trump was trying to force Sessions out using a "no confidence" type argument.  This could serve to his advantage because then he could install a new AG who would then oversee the Mueller investigation and kill it.
    So then last night the Post reports that intercepts report that Sessions did discuss the campaign with Kislyak who reported that information back to Moscow.  This is in direct contradiction to Sessions's under oath testimony.  If this is true, then these are crimes and certainly cause for removal.  
    I haven't heard anyone say it yet, but why wouldn't we think that Trump's minions would leak this information, to box Sessions in further?  Now he has cause.  He's crazy enough to do such a thing.  Guess we will have to wait and see.

     http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/21/politics/wapo-sessions-discussed-campaign-with-kislyak/index.html

    We need to dispel the myth that Trump plays 3D chess. 

    This theory buys into that. This administration is never ahead and always behind, therefore I don't buy it.
    That's really not 3D chess.  It's not that clever, in fact it's fairly incriminating since he will have to argue that once again he was unaware of what senior aids to his campaign we're doing.  While it's not clever, what it does do is serve a Trump immediate interest regardless of the long term consequence.  That's right in his wheelhouse of thinking.  
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,482
    What normal person starts tweeting @3am let alone the president ! He needs to be drug tested 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Okay here's a little theory on the Sessions disclosure from the Post last night.  I said earlier yesterday that Trump was trying to force Sessions out using a "no confidence" type argument.  This could serve to his advantage because then he could install a new AG who would then oversee the Mueller investigation and kill it.
    So then last night the Post reports that intercepts report that Sessions did discuss the campaign with Kislyak who reported that information back to Moscow.  This is in direct contradiction to Sessions's under oath testimony.  If this is true, then these are crimes and certainly cause for removal.  
    I haven't heard anyone say it yet, but why wouldn't we think that Trump's minions would leak this information, to box Sessions in further?  Now he has cause.  He's crazy enough to do such a thing.  Guess we will have to wait and see.

     http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/21/politics/wapo-sessions-discussed-campaign-with-kislyak/index.html

    We need to dispel the myth that Trump plays 3D chess. 

    This theory buys into that. This administration is never ahead and always behind, therefore I don't buy it.
    That's really not 3D chess.  It's not that clever, in fact it's fairly incriminating since he will have to argue that once again he was unaware of what senior aids to his campaign we're doing.  While it's not clever, what it does do is serve a Trump immediate interest regardless of the long term consequence.  That's right in his wheelhouse of thinking.  
    That is a good point. Especially the part in bold.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,971
    Sessions reminds me of Milburn Drysdale from the Beverly Hillbillies, always trying to do the right thing by the boss Trump (Clampetts). In the end he'll regret ever having been involved.

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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,666
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Sessions reminds me of Milburn Drysdale from the Beverly Hillbillies, always trying to do the right thing by the boss Trump (Clampetts). In the end he'll regret ever having been involved.

    Desperado, you've got the weight on your shoulders...................
    People have a habit of selling their souls when they touch the Trump family.  It's really, really bizarre.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Sessions reminds me of Milburn Drysdale from the Beverly Hillbillies, always trying to do the right thing by the boss Trump (Clampetts). In the end he'll regret ever having been involved.

    Desperado, you've got the weight on your shoulders...................
    He reminds me of Granny
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    So when I read that twitter rant from this morning, I can't help but read that the President confirms that he really is contemplating pardons and that these unnamed sources from the Post aren't wrong. The second thing, the leaks he mentions of wrongdoings only confirm the info in them are true. 
    I would absolutely hate to represent him as an attorney. He literally builds the case against him. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,666
    ledvedderman said:
    So when I read that twitter rant from this morning, I can't help but read that the President confirms that he really is contemplating pardons and that these unnamed sources from the Post aren't wrong. The second thing, the leaks he mentions of wrongdoings only confirm the info in them are true. 
    I would absolutely hate to represent him as an attorney. He literally builds the case against him. 
    Three things on pardons:
    1. Doesn't there have to be a conviction in order to grant a pardon, by definition?
    2. If he pardons his children, Manafort, etc., they can no longer plead the 5th since they can no longer self-incriminate.  They will be compelled to answer in court, opening themselves up to charges of perjury if they say something that conflicts with FBI evidence.
    3. If either 1 or 2 takes place, they don't protect him from impeachment articles.  

    So it's a dangerous road to take, even without considering the political fallout.  
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,971
    Why would you give a rambling incoherent interview to a fake news outlet?
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    ledvedderman said:
    So when I read that twitter rant from this morning, I can't help but read that the President confirms that he really is contemplating pardons and that these unnamed sources from the Post aren't wrong. The second thing, the leaks he mentions of wrongdoings only confirm the info in them are true. 
    I would absolutely hate to represent him as an attorney. He literally builds the case against him. 
    I notice that too, by senselessly reacting against the leaks he essentially confirms them.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,666
    rgambs said:
    ledvedderman said:
    So when I read that twitter rant from this morning, I can't help but read that the President confirms that he really is contemplating pardons and that these unnamed sources from the Post aren't wrong. The second thing, the leaks he mentions of wrongdoings only confirm the info in them are true. 
    I would absolutely hate to represent him as an attorney. He literally builds the case against him. 
    I notice that too, by senselessly reacting against the leaks he essentially confirms them.
    By definition, a leak is true.  
  • mfc2006mfc2006 Posts: 37,435
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Why would you give a rambling incoherent interview to a fake news outlet?
    Because he has the intelligence of a house fly.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,971
    I'm 250th, I'm 250th, I'm 250th!

    MAGA

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,971
    Tired of winning yet?

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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    mrussel1 said:
    ledvedderman said:
    So when I read that twitter rant from this morning, I can't help but read that the President confirms that he really is contemplating pardons and that these unnamed sources from the Post aren't wrong. The second thing, the leaks he mentions of wrongdoings only confirm the info in them are true. 
    I would absolutely hate to represent him as an attorney. He literally builds the case against him. 
    Three things on pardons:
    1. Doesn't there have to be a conviction in order to grant a pardon, by definition?
    2. If he pardons his children, Manafort, etc., they can no longer plead the 5th since they can no longer self-incriminate.  They will be compelled to answer in court, opening themselves up to charges of perjury if they say something that conflicts with FBI evidence.
    3. If either 1 or 2 takes place, they don't protect him from impeachment articles.  

    So it's a dangerous road to take, even without considering the political fallout.  
    I'm not sure if you have to be found guilty first. When Ford pardoned Nixon, it was only a month after he left office. I think it kept him from any future prosecution. It's interesting and will be hammered out by people much smarter than me. 
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Rest assured President Trump is exploring all angles and leaving no stone unturned to find a way to be legally authorized to pardon himself or his family members if the time comes.  He is being upfront w/ his this.  The people hammering this out have just been dealt a thud themselves by the President.  
  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    A blast from the past about the hands since some are still stuck on them.
    http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_3ytl01vr

  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,666
    ledvedderman said:
    mrussel1 said:
    ledvedderman said:
    So when I read that twitter rant from this morning, I can't help but read that the President confirms that he really is contemplating pardons and that these unnamed sources from the Post aren't wrong. The second thing, the leaks he mentions of wrongdoings only confirm the info in them are true. 
    I would absolutely hate to represent him as an attorney. He literally builds the case against him. 
    Three things on pardons:
    1. Doesn't there have to be a conviction in order to grant a pardon, by definition?
    2. If he pardons his children, Manafort, etc., they can no longer plead the 5th since they can no longer self-incriminate.  They will be compelled to answer in court, opening themselves up to charges of perjury if they say something that conflicts with FBI evidence.
    3. If either 1 or 2 takes place, they don't protect him from impeachment articles.  

    So it's a dangerous road to take, even without considering the political fallout.  
    I'm not sure if you have to be found guilty first. When Ford pardoned Nixon, it was only a month after he left office. I think it kept him from any future prosecution. It's interesting and will be hammered out by people much smarter than me. 
    You're right about that, concerning Nixon.  Good call.
  • stuckinlinestuckinline Posts: 3,367

    Trump plans to nominate non-scientist to head science at USDA


    https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/4ad133f0-5d4e-3061-a10c-6637bbcc889b/ss_trump-plans-to-nominate.html
  • SmellymanSmellyman Posts: 4,524
    stuckinline said:

    Trump plans to nominate non-scientist to head science at USDA


    https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/4ad133f0-5d4e-3061-a10c-6637bbcc889b/ss_trump-plans-to-nominate.html
    What more do you need than being a right wing radio talk show host?

    At some point all these nominees have to be illegal at some point, right?
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,074
    josevolution said:
    What normal person starts tweeting @3am let alone the president ! He needs to be drug tested 
    Another coke bender to kick off the weekend resulting in early Saturday twitter rants.
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited July 2017
    DOOLP!!!


    https://youtu.be/X3zpuksJa-I

    someone else made a comment about hate in a closed thread. I chuckled because for the last 9 months there are 5 threads with a barrage a daily hatred, extreme hate. Let's de-escalate the hate!
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,971
    JC29856 said:
    DOOLP!!!


    https://youtu.be/X3zpuksJa-I

    someone else made a comment about hate in a closed thread. I chuckled because for the last 9 months there are 5 threads with a barrage a daily hatred, extreme hate. Let's de-escalate the hate!
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    de-escalate hate!
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,971
    JC29856 said:
    de-escalate hate!
    The rule of law is not hate.
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    Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.

    Brilliantati©
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