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  • GlowGirlGlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 10,718
    dankind said:
    GlowGirl said:
    OnWis97 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    republicans have been historically awful at choosing political rally songs. they always pick the ones pointing the finger at themselves. so incredibly self unaware. 
    They also tend to upset the artists who don't want to be associated with them.  Brian Adams asked Louisiana to stop playing a song that David Duke was using way back in the day.

    A little slideshow: Almost all GOP. I'm sure part of the reason is that musicians tend to be left of center but I wonder whether the GOP is also worse at doing their homework and/or getting permission.
    i think they are just plain worse at having the EQ to understand the meaning of a good song. 

    That, too.  The poster-child example is Reagan using "Born in the USA."  Sure the chorus is rock-anthemy and could be construed as patriotic/jingoistic/nationalistic/whatever without the context of the rest of the lyrics. But you'd think someone running a presidential campaign taking in millions of dollars would do a little homework on song lyrics.

    I recall seeing "Fortunate Son" on a Wrangler Jeans commercial.  They only played "Some folks are born made to wave the flag; oh the red, white, and blue."  I just thought it was funny because in the song, he's ripping those people and the marketing firm had to have known that. And so do some people but I guess they decided it would not cost them sales (I am sure they were right but it's still funny).  I'm sure John Fogerty (who I think has no ownership of CCR songs) was thrilled.
    Whenever I saw that Carnival Cruise commercial using Lust for Life I always wondered why they didn't include more of the lyrics:

    Here comes Johnny Yen again
    With the liquor and drugs
    And a flesh machine
    He's gonna do another striptease

    I wonder who decided "Let's use a song about drug addiction to sell cruise packages."




    “53rd and 3rd” is way more apropos for cruising. 
    :lol:

  • GlowGirlGlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 10,718
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    GlowGirl said:
    OnWis97 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    republicans have been historically awful at choosing political rally songs. they always pick the ones pointing the finger at themselves. so incredibly self unaware. 
    They also tend to upset the artists who don't want to be associated with them.  Brian Adams asked Louisiana to stop playing a song that David Duke was using way back in the day.

    A little slideshow: Almost all GOP. I'm sure part of the reason is that musicians tend to be left of center but I wonder whether the GOP is also worse at doing their homework and/or getting permission.
    i think they are just plain worse at having the EQ to understand the meaning of a good song. 

    That, too.  The poster-child example is Reagan using "Born in the USA."  Sure the chorus is rock-anthemy and could be construed as patriotic/jingoistic/nationalistic/whatever without the context of the rest of the lyrics. But you'd think someone running a presidential campaign taking in millions of dollars would do a little homework on song lyrics.

    I recall seeing "Fortunate Son" on a Wrangler Jeans commercial.  They only played "Some folks are born made to wave the flag; oh the red, white, and blue."  I just thought it was funny because in the song, he's ripping those people and the marketing firm had to have known that. And so do some people but I guess they decided it would not cost them sales (I am sure they were right but it's still funny).  I'm sure John Fogerty (who I think has no ownership of CCR songs) was thrilled.
    Whenever I saw that Carnival Cruise commercial using Lust for Life I always wondered why they didn't include more of the lyrics:

    Here comes Johnny Yen again
    With the liquor and drugs
    And a flesh machine
    He's gonna do another striptease

    I wonder who decided "Let's use a song about drug addiction to sell cruise packages."


    I don't recall that one. But I'm not a fan of Iggy Pop and I did not know those lyrics.  And I suppose most don't, which is why they use songs the way they do.  But it's still funny to me.

    I do.  That's a good call, Glow Girl. 
    Another one that made me go hmmm? was the IPhone ad with the Pixies song Gigantic.

  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,680
    dankind said:
    GlowGirl said:
    OnWis97 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    republicans have been historically awful at choosing political rally songs. they always pick the ones pointing the finger at themselves. so incredibly self unaware. 
    They also tend to upset the artists who don't want to be associated with them.  Brian Adams asked Louisiana to stop playing a song that David Duke was using way back in the day.

    A little slideshow: Almost all GOP. I'm sure part of the reason is that musicians tend to be left of center but I wonder whether the GOP is also worse at doing their homework and/or getting permission.
    i think they are just plain worse at having the EQ to understand the meaning of a good song. 

    That, too.  The poster-child example is Reagan using "Born in the USA."  Sure the chorus is rock-anthemy and could be construed as patriotic/jingoistic/nationalistic/whatever without the context of the rest of the lyrics. But you'd think someone running a presidential campaign taking in millions of dollars would do a little homework on song lyrics.

    I recall seeing "Fortunate Son" on a Wrangler Jeans commercial.  They only played "Some folks are born made to wave the flag; oh the red, white, and blue."  I just thought it was funny because in the song, he's ripping those people and the marketing firm had to have known that. And so do some people but I guess they decided it would not cost them sales (I am sure they were right but it's still funny).  I'm sure John Fogerty (who I think has no ownership of CCR songs) was thrilled.
    Whenever I saw that Carnival Cruise commercial using Lust for Life I always wondered why they didn't include more of the lyrics:

    Here comes Johnny Yen again
    With the liquor and drugs
    And a flesh machine
    He's gonna do another striptease

    I wonder who decided "Let's use a song about drug addiction to sell cruise packages."




    “53rd and 3rd” is way more apropos for cruising. 

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,527
    "Without Covid, Trump beats Biden."

    Give me a break, people. Biden led Trump in polling for well over a year prior to Covid happening. Trump had a historically low approval rating for his entire time in office. Trump losing reelection, was not difficult for rational people to predict.

    Also, the Trump administration screwing up something like the Covid response was only a matter of time. He's an incompetent boob. Rational people assumed it was only a matter of time before they screwed the pooch on something like that since day 1, as well. Just so happens it took a few years longer to happen. 
    ....and he cost the republicans the senate. 

    What a “movement!”


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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 16,972
    He definitely cost them the Senate, but I still stick by if he handled Covid like 5% better he would've won.
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  • SmellymanSmellyman Posts: 4,524
    He definitely cost them the Senate, but I still stick by if he handled Covid like 5% better he would've won.
    He didn't even have to handle it well just had to pretend to care.

    Sociopaths are usually better at mimicking empathy, but coming from a privileged life he has never needed to mimic to get by.

  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 16,972
    Smellyman said:
    He definitely cost them the Senate, but I still stick by if he handled Covid like 5% better he would've won.
    He didn't even have to handle it well just had to pretend to care.

    Sociopaths are usually better at mimicking empathy, but coming from a privileged life he has never needed to mimic to get by.

    Absolutely. There's a lot of people that voted for Biden that were pleading for a reason not to. Oh well, fuck him and fuck the Republican Party with a rusty nail studded trombone. Sweeeeeeeep.

  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,527
    It’s really amazing to me that so many cowardly republicans are afraid of a guy who lost them the house, senate and White House over the last few years. 

    Trump is an historically unpopular, impeached, one term president who never once had the majority of this country support him. Lol
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    It’s really amazing to me that so many cowardly republicans are afraid of a guy who lost them the house, senate and White House over the last few years. 

    Trump is an historically unpopular, impeached, one term president who never once had the majority of this country support him. Lol
    And today should be a circus like PA's house was a circus yesterday. But watch - a lot of these dipshits that were calling for an investigation or not certifying the elector votes all of a sudden are singing a different tune now. The Dems need to not be idiots and get all that shit on record and attack every fucking single one of these assholes until they lose their seats.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,527
    It’s really amazing to me that so many cowardly republicans are afraid of a guy who lost them the house, senate and White House over the last few years. 

    Trump is an historically unpopular, impeached, one term president who never once had the majority of this country support him. Lol
    And today should be a circus like PA's house was a circus yesterday. But watch - a lot of these dipshits that were calling for an investigation or not certifying the elector votes all of a sudden are singing a different tune now. The Dems need to not be idiots and get all that shit on record and attack every fucking single one of these assholes until they lose their seats.
    I think I’m just gonna ignore the news for the next day or so. Today shouldn’t matter. It’s just math. I’m not giving their dog and pony show my attention. 


    ....at least that is the plan. Ha

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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,672
    It’s really amazing to me that so many cowardly republicans are afraid of a guy who lost them the house, senate and White House over the last few years. 

    Trump is an historically unpopular, impeached, one term president who never once had the majority of this country support him. Lol

    I dont think it is being afraid of Trump so much as it is the swollen amount of the Republican base who will blindly follow everything he says.  

    As we always say in terms of extremists in the middle east... the key to counter radicalization is education.

    It isnt a sustainable model for Republicans though.  They cant keep all these balls in the air and allow the Trumps to have taken over the party.  
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 16,972
    It’s really amazing to me that so many cowardly republicans are afraid of a guy who lost them the house, senate and White House over the last few years. 

    Trump is an historically unpopular, impeached, one term president who never once had the majority of this country support him. Lol
    And today should be a circus like PA's house was a circus yesterday. But watch - a lot of these dipshits that were calling for an investigation or not certifying the elector votes all of a sudden are singing a different tune now. The Dems need to not be idiots and get all that shit on record and attack every fucking single one of these assholes until they lose their seats.
    I think I’m just gonna ignore the news for the next day or so. Today shouldn’t matter. It’s just math. I’m not giving their dog and pony show my attention. 


    ....at least that is the plan. Ha

    Same here. But somebody needs to be recording those who all of a sudden are singing a new tune due to yesterday's election. Hold their feet to the fire.
  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,054
    if Mike Pence does something illegal (like say try to stage a bloodless oup d'état) on the floor of a joint session of congress, isn't the Sgt at Arms going to arrest his fat ass?
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  • ikiT said:
    if Mike Pence does something illegal (like say try to stage a bloodless oup d'état) on the floor of a joint session of congress, isn't the Sgt at Arms going to arrest his fat ass?
    After the Sgt. at Arms summons his wife to help escort him off the capitol grounds.
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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 16,972
    It's also a good time for the R's to also become supporters of a popular vote when it comes to elections, and possibly get behind Rank Choice Voting. Republicans essentially won the Senate popular vote by ~2M votes but are going to lose control of the chamber.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,527
    MayDay10 said:
    It’s really amazing to me that so many cowardly republicans are afraid of a guy who lost them the house, senate and White House over the last few years. 

    Trump is an historically unpopular, impeached, one term president who never once had the majority of this country support him. Lol

    I dont think it is being afraid of Trump so much as it is the swollen amount of the Republican base who will blindly follow everything he says.  

    As we always say in terms of extremists in the middle east... the key to counter radicalization is education.

    It isnt a sustainable model for Republicans though.  They cant keep all these balls in the air and allow the Trumps to have taken over the party.  
    That is basically what I meant. They want his supporter's support and, thus, his approval. 

    I agree it is not sustainable. I think it is fair to say now that a large portion of Trump supporters care a lot more about Trump than they do republican ideals. Will be interesting to see how that plays out when Trump is not on the ballot in four years. Seems like a good opportunity for the dems....though, we sure know how they love screwing up good opportunities. lol
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,078
    MayDay10 said:
    It’s really amazing to me that so many cowardly republicans are afraid of a guy who lost them the house, senate and White House over the last few years. 

    Trump is an historically unpopular, impeached, one term president who never once had the majority of this country support him. Lol

    I dont think it is being afraid of Trump so much as it is the swollen amount of the Republican base who will blindly follow everything he says.  

    As we always say in terms of extremists in the middle east... the key to counter radicalization is education.

    It isnt a sustainable model for Republicans though.  They cant keep all these balls in the air and allow the Trumps to have taken over the party.  
    That is basically what I meant. They want his supporter's support and, thus, his approval. 

    I agree it is not sustainable. I think it is fair to say now that a large portion of Trump supporters care a lot more about Trump than they do republican ideals. Will be interesting to see how that plays out when Trump is not on the ballot in four years. Seems like a good opportunity for the dems....though, we sure know how they love screwing up good opportunities. lol
    This is more or less what I was getting at yesterday when I asked what Cruz & the others' end game is in undermining the election / constitution... I don't think any of these current clowns have the 'charisma' or whatever you want to call the thing that endears people to Trump. (at least I hope...) 
  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 4,979
    edited January 2021
    MayDay10 said:
    It’s really amazing to me that so many cowardly republicans are afraid of a guy who lost them the house, senate and White House over the last few years. 

    Trump is an historically unpopular, impeached, one term president who never once had the majority of this country support him. Lol

    I dont think it is being afraid of Trump so much as it is the swollen amount of the Republican base who will blindly follow everything he says.  

    As we always say in terms of extremists in the middle east... the key to counter radicalization is education.

    It isnt a sustainable model for Republicans though.  They cant keep all these balls in the air and allow the Trumps to have taken over the party.  
    This is absolutely right.  The GOP base is so devoted to Trump that these people are scared they'll be primaried if they don't back Trump every time.  And they're probably right.

    MayDay10 said:

    That is basically what I meant. They want his supporter's support and, thus, his approval. 

    I agree it is not sustainable. I think it is fair to say now that a large portion of Trump supporters care a lot more about Trump than they do republican ideals. Will be interesting to see how that plays out when Trump is not on the ballot in four years. Seems like a good opportunity for the dems....though, we sure know how they love screwing up good opportunities. lol
    That's the cult.  They are so obsessed with Trump that I think they've forgotten what they even care about.  It's really amazing what a third or so of the country has become.  I never appreciated how successful someone could be simply by making people feel like "others" are at fault for their disappointments.

    At this point, I'd say they care more about Trump than they do about America, their communities, the party, and even themsevles.
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,078
    OnWis97 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    It’s really amazing to me that so many cowardly republicans are afraid of a guy who lost them the house, senate and White House over the last few years. 

    Trump is an historically unpopular, impeached, one term president who never once had the majority of this country support him. Lol

    I dont think it is being afraid of Trump so much as it is the swollen amount of the Republican base who will blindly follow everything he says.  

    As we always say in terms of extremists in the middle east... the key to counter radicalization is education.

    It isnt a sustainable model for Republicans though.  They cant keep all these balls in the air and allow the Trumps to have taken over the party.  
    This is absolutely right.  The GOP base is so devoted to Trump that these people are scared they'll be primaried if they don't back Trump every time.  And they're probably right.

    MayDay10 said:

    That is basically what I meant. They want his supporter's support and, thus, his approval. 

    I agree it is not sustainable. I think it is fair to say now that a large portion of Trump supporters care a lot more about Trump than they do republican ideals. Will be interesting to see how that plays out when Trump is not on the ballot in four years. Seems like a good opportunity for the dems....though, we sure know how they love screwing up good opportunities. lol
    That's the cult.  They are so obsessed with Trump that I think they've forgotten what they even care about.  It's really amazing what a third or so of the country has become.  I never appreciated how successful someone could be simply by making people feel like "others" are at fault for their disappointments.

    At this point, I'd say they care more about Trump than they do about America, their communities, the party, and even themsevles.
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 4,979
    OnWis97 said:

    This is absolutely right.  The GOP base is so devoted to Trump that these people are scared they'll be primaried if they don't back Trump every time.  And they're probably right.


    That's the cult.  They are so obsessed with Trump that I think they've forgotten what they even care about.  It's really amazing what a third or so of the country has become.  I never appreciated how successful someone could be simply by making people feel like "others" are at fault for their disappointments.

    At this point, I'd say they care more about Trump than they do about America, their communities, the party, and even themsevles.
    President Lyndon B. Johnson once said, "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,527
    edited January 2021
    OnWis97 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    It’s really amazing to me that so many cowardly republicans are afraid of a guy who lost them the house, senate and White House over the last few years. 

    Trump is an historically unpopular, impeached, one term president who never once had the majority of this country support him. Lol

    I dont think it is being afraid of Trump so much as it is the swollen amount of the Republican base who will blindly follow everything he says.  

    As we always say in terms of extremists in the middle east... the key to counter radicalization is education.

    It isnt a sustainable model for Republicans though.  They cant keep all these balls in the air and allow the Trumps to have taken over the party.  
    This is absolutely right.  The GOP base is so devoted to Trump that these people are scared they'll be primaried if they don't back Trump every time.  And they're probably right.

    MayDay10 said:

    That is basically what I meant. They want his supporter's support and, thus, his approval. 

    I agree it is not sustainable. I think it is fair to say now that a large portion of Trump supporters care a lot more about Trump than they do republican ideals. Will be interesting to see how that plays out when Trump is not on the ballot in four years. Seems like a good opportunity for the dems....though, we sure know how they love screwing up good opportunities. lol
    That's the cult.  They are so obsessed with Trump that I think they've forgotten what they even care about.  It's really amazing what a third or so of the country has become.  I never appreciated how successful someone could be simply by making people feel like "others" are at fault for their disappointments.

    At this point, I'd say they care more about Trump than they do about America, their communities, the party, and even themsevles.
    Yeah so it is a good opportunity for democrats to take advantage of a fractured republican party. 

    Also, I am not sure losing the house, senate, and the white house while never having the majority of the country support him is considered successful. It might be successful in destroying the republican party though. 
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,398
    LBJ = highly underrated.
    Excellent domestic policies however he will always be remembered for Vietnam.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • LBJ = highly underrated.
    LBJ on tape talking about his nutsack is underrated.
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    LBJ = highly underrated.
    LBJ on tape talking about his nutsack is underrated.
    Haha, I know this is a complete partisan Dem hack thing to say but this is what I know about LBJ mostly: 1) civil rights 2) balls and pants phone calls 3) Vietnam.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,406
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    LBJ = highly underrated.
    LBJ on tape talking about his nutsack is underrated.
    Haha, I know this is a complete partisan Dem hack thing to say but this is what I know about LBJ mostly: 1) civil rights 2) balls and pants phone calls 3) Vietnam.
    Those tapes are fascinating shit. No shame in hearing the POTUS be human, particularly back then. Imagine if that had leaked and been broadcast all over radio? He might have had to resign well before not running for re-election.

    Now, grabbing them by the pussy is a “qualification.”
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 4,979
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    MayDay10 said:
    It’s really amazing to me that so many cowardly republicans are afraid of a guy who lost them the house, senate and White House over the last few years. 

    Trump is an historically unpopular, impeached, one term president who never once had the majority of this country support him. Lol

    I dont think it is being afraid of Trump so much as it is the swollen amount of the Republican base who will blindly follow everything he says.  

    As we always say in terms of extremists in the middle east... the key to counter radicalization is education.

    It isnt a sustainable model for Republicans though.  They cant keep all these balls in the air and allow the Trumps to have taken over the party.  
    This is absolutely right.  The GOP base is so devoted to Trump that these people are scared they'll be primaried if they don't back Trump every time.  And they're probably right.

    MayDay10 said:

    That is basically what I meant. They want his supporter's support and, thus, his approval. 

    I agree it is not sustainable. I think it is fair to say now that a large portion of Trump supporters care a lot more about Trump than they do republican ideals. Will be interesting to see how that plays out when Trump is not on the ballot in four years. Seems like a good opportunity for the dems....though, we sure know how they love screwing up good opportunities. lol
    That's the cult.  They are so obsessed with Trump that I think they've forgotten what they even care about.  It's really amazing what a third or so of the country has become.  I never appreciated how successful someone could be simply by making people feel like "others" are at fault for their disappointments.

    At this point, I'd say they care more about Trump than they do about America, their communities, the party, and even themsevles.
    Yeah so it is a good opportunity for democrats to take advantage of a fractured republican party. 

    Also, I am not sure losing the house, senate, and the white house while never having the majority of the country support him is considered successful. It might be successful in destroying the republican party though. 

    Yeah, I should have said "how effective it can be."  It was effective in the degree of devotion generated but hopefully not in the numbers going ahead...
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,398
    Haven’t been near a tv all day: did a lot of people show up in dc to support trump?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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