I have never liked the Beach Boys...poppy songs about California and surfing just don't do it for me. "But Pet Sounds is amazing." Yeah, if you like poppy songs about California and surfing. So at least I have nothing to be disappointed about.
I do like Mike Love's nephew, Kevin Love. I don't know how he votes but I appreciate his forthrightness in talking about his depression. It's helpful in reducing stigmas around mental health.
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I have never liked the Beach Boys...poppy songs about California and surfing just don't do it for me. "But Pet Sounds is amazing." Yeah, if you like poppy songs about California and surfing. So at least I have nothing to be disappointed about.
I do like Mike Love's nephew, Kevin Love. I don't know how he votes but I appreciate his forthrightness in talking about his depression. It's helpful in reducing stigmas around mental health.
As a Cavs fan, I also like Kevin.
Also agree that Pet Sounds is overrated. It sounds very dated and typical Beach Boys to me. There are lots of classic records that sound fresh to this day. Pet isn't one of them.
I have never liked the Beach Boys...poppy songs about California and surfing just don't do it for me. "But Pet Sounds is amazing." Yeah, if you like poppy songs about California and surfing. So at least I have nothing to be disappointed about.
I do like Mike Love's nephew, Kevin Love. I don't know how he votes but I appreciate his forthrightness in talking about his depression. It's helpful in reducing stigmas around mental health.
As a Cavs fan, I also like Kevin.
Also agree that Pet Sounds is overrated. It sounds very dated and typical Beach Boys to me. There are lots of classic records that sound fresh to this day. Pet isn't one of them.
I'm sure at the time it was a newer type of sound. I don't get anything out of it now. A few songs I like.
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I have to remember that it is the God given duty of kids and grandkids to hate music from their parents and grand parents generation. So before dissing Surfer Girl or Pet Sounds, maybe stop a moment and think about what you kids or grandkids are going to think about Ten.
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Also, before totally dissing post Pet Sounds Beach Boys, consider that Brian Wilson and Al Jardine spoke out against Mike "tRump Lover" Love and check out these marvelous songs:
I have to remember that it is the God given duty of kids and grandkids to hate music from their parents and grand parents generation. So before dissing Surfer Girl or Pet Sounds, maybe stop a moment and think about what you kids or grandkids are going to think about Ten.
I have to remember that it is the God given duty of kids and grandkids to hate music from their parents and grand parents generation. So before dissing Surfer Girl or Pet Sounds, maybe stop a moment and think about what you kids or grandkids are going to think about Ten.
And while you're at it get off Brian's lawn
Assuming lawns, children, grandchildren, or even a future are in the cards for us.
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I have to remember that it is the God given duty of kids and grandkids to hate music from their parents and grand parents generation. So before dissing Surfer Girl or Pet Sounds, maybe stop a moment and think about what you kids or grandkids are going to think about Ten.
I'm not dissing it, but I think it hasn't held up over time like Dark Side, Exile and some other generational records. I'm sure it was very cutting edge when released, but the Beach Boys saturated the culture for so long, it just feels meh for those of us that didn't grow up then.
I have to remember that it is the God given duty of kids and grandkids to hate music from their parents and grand parents generation. So before dissing Surfer Girl or Pet Sounds, maybe stop a moment and think about what you kids or grandkids are going to think about Ten.
I'm not dissing it, but I think it hasn't held up over time like Dark Side, Exile and some other generational records. I'm sure it was very cutting edge when released, but the Beach Boys saturated the culture for so long, it just feels meh for those of us that didn't grow up then.
Simply a matter of taste, my friend. Fore example- I know Exile is revered by many, but personally I'm much more a fan of Sticky Fingers. And I'm not a fan of Dark Side of the Moon- never really have been- but I appreciate it's quality and the fact that many have love it for a long time. As for Pet Sounds, I get it that many people are not into it. But a huge number of people rate it as one of the all-time greatest records ever made.
But, hey, the one thing most of us (here at least) can agree on is a disdain for Mike Love's love of tRump!
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I have to remember that it is the God given duty of kids and grandkids to hate music from their parents and grand parents generation. So before dissing Surfer Girl or Pet Sounds, maybe stop a moment and think about what you kids or grandkids are going to think about Ten.
And while you're at it get off Brian's lawn
Assuming lawns, children, grandchildren, or even a future are in the cards for us.
Oh Ben, it does feel that gloomy at times these days. I'm still clinging to the hope that things turn around in the coming months.
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I have to remember that it is the God given duty of kids and grandkids to hate music from their parents and grand parents generation. So before dissing Surfer Girl or Pet Sounds, maybe stop a moment and think about what you kids or grandkids are going to think about Ten.
I'm not dissing it, but I think it hasn't held up over time like Dark Side, Exile and some other generational records. I'm sure it was very cutting edge when released, but the Beach Boys saturated the culture for so long, it just feels meh for those of us that didn't grow up then.
I'm a millennial and I think Pet Sounds is every bit as good as Dark Side....Exile...well nothing comes close to Exile.
I have to remember that it is the God given duty of kids and grandkids to hate music from their parents and grand parents generation. So before dissing Surfer Girl or Pet Sounds, maybe stop a moment and think about what you kids or grandkids are going to think about Ten.
I'm not dissing it, but I think it hasn't held up over time like Dark Side, Exile and some other generational records. I'm sure it was very cutting edge when released, but the Beach Boys saturated the culture for so long, it just feels meh for those of us that didn't grow up then.
Funny... I almost never listen to Dark Side anymore, and can listen to Pet Sounds practically endlessly. I think it's masterfully produced and pick up new details or intriguing instrumental embellishments in almost every listen that offer tons of unique sounds and properties.
Here's a great anecdote to that effect from Tony Asher about You Still Believe In Me: "We were trying to do something that would sound sort of, I guess, like a harpsichord but a little more ethereal than that. I am plucking the strings by leaning inside the piano and Brian is holding down the notes on the keyboard so they will ring when I pluck them. I plucked the strings with paper clips, hairpins, bobby pins and several other things until Brian got the sound he wanted"
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wow. I don't even know what to say. I think the days between nov 3rd and Jan 20 are going to be the worst that 2020 has on tap.
You say this thinking Trump's going to lose...
...and if he does, it's going to be one of the strangest times in our country's history. There are so many possibilities that none of us would have even been able to make up on our best day.
Does he scream about how he actually won? (Of course, but for how long)?
Does the rest of the party finally reign in the nonsense or do most of them go all-in on the "it was fixed; just give it to Trump" wagon?
Does Barr successfully get the whole thing overturned?
Does he resign? Does Pence do any pardoning (to whatever extent it applies).
Does he just hang around and play out his term getting crazier and crazier by minute, leading to Nancy and Co. bringing out that 25th Amendment move they've been working on?
My guess is that even if Biden wins, this madness won't really be November 3 to January 20. I don't see the election being official in any way in November...with the mail-in votes coming in, Barr's attempts to rig the election after-the-fact, the thread of rogue electors from GOP states going against the vote and going with Trump. I don't see anyone truly knowing that Biden won until the day the electors cast (December 20 or something)? After that, if somehow Biden is still the winner, then it can start to get crazy...
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What is projection? ... Ed, LCSW, projection refers to unconsciously taking unwanted emotions or traits you don't like about yourself and attributing them to someone else.
wow. I don't even know what to say. I think the days between nov 3rd and Jan 20 are going to be the worst that 2020 has on tap.
You say this thinking Trump's going to lose...
...and if he does, it's going to be one of the strangest times in our country's history. There are so many possibilities that none of us would have even been able to make up on our best day.
Does he scream about how he actually won? (Of course, but for how long)?
Does the rest of the party finally reign in the nonsense or do most of them go all-in on the "it was fixed; just give it to Trump" wagon?
Does Barr successfully get the whole thing overturned?
Does he resign? Does Pence do any pardoning (to whatever extent it applies).
Does he just hang around and play out his term getting crazier and crazier by minute, leading to Nancy and Co. bringing out that 25th Amendment move they've been working on?
My guess is that even if Biden wins, this madness won't really be November 3 to January 20. I don't see the election being official in any way in November...with the mail-in votes coming in, Barr's attempts to rig the election after-the-fact, the thread of rogue electors from GOP states going against the vote and going with Trump. I don't see anyone truly knowing that Biden won until the day the electors cast (December 20 or something)? After that, if somehow Biden is still the winner, then it can start to get crazy...
I say this not knowing who is going to win...I think if he wins there will still be loads of crazy shit going on.
wow. I don't even know what to say. I think the days between nov 3rd and Jan 20 are going to be the worst that 2020 has on tap.
You say this thinking Trump's going to lose...
...and if he does, it's going to be one of the strangest times in our country's history. There are so many possibilities that none of us would have even been able to make up on our best day.
Does he scream about how he actually won? (Of course, but for how long)?
Does the rest of the party finally reign in the nonsense or do most of them go all-in on the "it was fixed; just give it to Trump" wagon?
Does Barr successfully get the whole thing overturned?
Does he resign? Does Pence do any pardoning (to whatever extent it applies).
Does he just hang around and play out his term getting crazier and crazier by minute, leading to Nancy and Co. bringing out that 25th Amendment move they've been working on?
My guess is that even if Biden wins, this madness won't really be November 3 to January 20. I don't see the election being official in any way in November...with the mail-in votes coming in, Barr's attempts to rig the election after-the-fact, the thread of rogue electors from GOP states going against the vote and going with Trump. I don't see anyone truly knowing that Biden won until the day the electors cast (December 20 or something)? After that, if somehow Biden is still the winner, then it can start to get crazy...
I say this not knowing who is going to win...I think if he wins there will still be loads of crazy shit going on.
If Trump wins it gets less crazy in a hurry...just the dread that a third of the country has knowing that this is going on for at least four more years. But "lame duck Trump" has the potential for the craziest stretch in US history.
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i think if dump loses he goes off the deep end and gets himself 25th amendmented, pardoned by pence in the lame duck, and gets to go to a country with no extradition.
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wow. I don't even know what to say. I think the days between nov 3rd and Jan 20 are going to be the worst that 2020 has on tap.
You say this thinking Trump's going to lose...
...and if he does, it's going to be one of the strangest times in our country's history. There are so many possibilities that none of us would have even been able to make up on our best day.
Does he scream about how he actually won? (Of course, but for how long)?
Does the rest of the party finally reign in the nonsense or do most of them go all-in on the "it was fixed; just give it to Trump" wagon?
Does Barr successfully get the whole thing overturned?
Does he resign? Does Pence do any pardoning (to whatever extent it applies).
Does he just hang around and play out his term getting crazier and crazier by minute, leading to Nancy and Co. bringing out that 25th Amendment move they've been working on?
My guess is that even if Biden wins, this madness won't really be November 3 to January 20. I don't see the election being official in any way in November...with the mail-in votes coming in, Barr's attempts to rig the election after-the-fact, the thread of rogue electors from GOP states going against the vote and going with Trump. I don't see anyone truly knowing that Biden won until the day the electors cast (December 20 or something)? After that, if somehow Biden is still the winner, then it can start to get crazy...
I think the election will be official the night of the 3rd.
There are always outstanding mail in votes. Once each state gets to the point where there aren't enough outstanding votes to matter they will call the election.
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Also agree that Pet Sounds is overrated. It sounds very dated and typical Beach Boys to me. There are lots of classic records that sound fresh to this day. Pet isn't one of them.
I'm sure at the time it was a newer type of sound. I don't get anything out of it now. A few songs I like.
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2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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What the fuck....
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2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
There are no kings inside the gates of eden
There are no kings inside the gates of eden
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2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
Here's a great anecdote to that effect from Tony Asher about You Still Believe In Me:
"We were trying to do something that would sound sort of, I guess, like a harpsichord but a little more ethereal than that. I am plucking the strings by leaning inside the piano and Brian is holding down the notes on the keyboard so they will ring when I pluck them. I plucked the strings with paper clips, hairpins, bobby pins and several other things until Brian got the sound he wanted"
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- Does he just flee the country Baltimore Colts-style to escape prosecution?
- Does he scream about how he actually won? (Of course, but for how long)?
- Does the rest of the party finally reign in the nonsense or do most of them go all-in on the "it was fixed; just give it to Trump" wagon?
- Does Barr successfully get the whole thing overturned?
- Does he resign? Does Pence do any pardoning (to whatever extent it applies).
- Does he just hang around and play out his term getting crazier and crazier by minute, leading to Nancy and Co. bringing out that 25th Amendment move they've been working on?
My guess is that even if Biden wins, this madness won't really be November 3 to January 20. I don't see the election being official in any way in November...with the mail-in votes coming in, Barr's attempts to rig the election after-the-fact, the thread of rogue electors from GOP states going against the vote and going with Trump. I don't see anyone truly knowing that Biden won until the day the electors cast (December 20 or something)? After that, if somehow Biden is still the winner, then it can start to get crazy...2013 Wrigley 2014 St. Paul 2016 Fenway, Fenway, Wrigley, Wrigley 2018 Missoula, Wrigley, Wrigley 2021 Asbury Park 2022 St Louis 2023 Austin, Austin
There are no kings inside the gates of eden
If Trump wins it gets less crazy in a hurry...just the dread that a third of the country has knowing that this is going on for at least four more years. But "lame duck Trump" has the potential for the craziest stretch in US history.
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"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
There are always outstanding mail in votes. Once each state gets to the point where there aren't enough outstanding votes to matter they will call the election.
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
I can't say that I have ever seen Bill Stepien. That seems odd given how much news I watch.
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2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
There are no kings inside the gates of eden
Trump is such a snowflake.