Anyone I have met today is laughing about this. Obviously I don't wish that the man was dead, but hopefully he has some kind of "saw the light" moment.
i understand the sentiment. but come on, teachers, there's a time and place. i shouldn't have to sit my daughter down, which i just did, and tell her it's never ok to be happy that someone is ill.
jesus christ.
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Seems an overly dramatic photo op to me. Signs of campaign desperation. Look for the footage of the helicopter lifting off to be used in campaign commercials and fund raising appeals. Its all a joke to own the libs. Disgusting.
How can we take the irresponsibility of Hope's Hickey spreading Covid and our own mismanagement of it and knock all the negative press of this past week off the front page and re-energize our struggling campaign for re-election? "Dramatic trip to Walter Reed, Mr. President." Lets do it. Get make up and hair in here pronto!
Anyone I have met today is laughing about this. Obviously I don't wish that the man was dead, but hopefully he has some kind of "saw the light" moment.
i understand the sentiment. but come on, teachers, there's a time and place. i shouldn't have to sit my daughter down, which i just did, and tell her it's never ok to be happy that someone is ill.
Journalists, beware: This White House can’t be trusted to be truthful about Trump’s health
With President Trump apparently struck by covid-19 a month before a critical election and after 200,000 American deaths from the disease, what we really need right now is an entirely credible, fact-based voice from the White House.
Good luck with that.
The Greek philosopher Diogenes was said to have wandered the streets of Athens with a lantern searching in vain for someone to speak the truth. I don’t think he’d have any better luck at the top level of the executive branch right now, despite our extraordinary need for trustworthy communication.
With the exception of Anthony S. Fauci, and maybe a few other top medical experts, there isn’t a trusted truth-teller in sight.
“Donald Trump’s way of dealing with negative news is consistent: Hide it, spin it, and always lie about it,” said Tim O’Brien, a Trump biographer and now a Bloomberg Opinion columnist who was once sued, unsuccessfully, by the then-developer.
This moment, O’Brien told me, doesn’t promise to be any different despite the incredibly high stakes for national security as our allies and adversaries assess what’s happening and act accordingly, as markets react, and as more lives are threatened by exposure to the disease.
It’s no secret that a culture of lies permeates the White House. There has been a parade of press secretaries with a remarkably consistent record of failing to tell the truth to reporters and the general public. It started on the very first day of the Trump administration, when Sean Spicer lied by insisting falsely, at the president’s behest, that his inaugural crowd was the largest of all time.
That kind of dissembling is still happening on press secretary Kayleigh McEnany’s watch. At a briefing Thursday, Fox News Radio White House correspondent Jon Decker pressed her to provide details about Trump’s public claim that voters’ mail-in ballots had been “dumped in rivers.”
Where’s the river, Decker wanted to know and who is the “they” who found them there?
McEnany responded in her usual cocksure manner: “Local authorities. It was a ditch in Wisconsin.” She provided no other specifics, and let’s be clear: This is a hyperbolic tale meant to further voter mistrust in the integrity of the election.
This is the same press secretary who promised at the start of her tenure last spring that she would never lie to the press — and then immediately began to spread untruths.
The problem, to put it mildly, is widespread among administration officials. But it starts at the top with Trump himself who lies so relentlessly. As The Post’s Glenn Kessler put it in his introduction to the book “Donald Trump and the His Assault on Truth”: “The pace and frequency of Trump’s falsehoods can feel mind-numbing — and many Americans appear to have tuned out.”
In this latest crisis, the predictable cycle of dangerous obfuscation has already begun. It was only after Bloomberg News reported that Trump aide Hope Hicks had tested positive for coronavirus that the White House acknowledged it.
Would we even know about Trump’s diagnosis if it weren’t for that? Maybe not. What about those he has come in contact with in recent days? Would they know they were endangered? The indications aren’t good. Yamiche Alcindor, the PBS White House correspondent, reported Friday that there was “no contact from the Trump campaign or the White House to alert the Biden campaign of possible exposure.” The campaign learned of the situation from news reports.
And when it comes to Trump’s health, he and his minions have a history of dubious statements. His former personal physician, Harold Bornstein, confessed that Trump dictated the doctor’s glowing 2015 letter that “his physical strength and stamina are extraordinary,” and that, if elected, Trump would be “the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency.” More recently, his trip to Walter Reed National Military Medical Center last November remains all too mysterious; reasonable questions were never satisfactorily answered.
What is the press to do?
Obviously, keep up with the kind of aggressive reporting that has revealed what’s happening. But be wary — even more wary than before — of taking any Trump or White House statements at face value and transmitting them to the public.
Reporters should be pressing for documentation, specific timelines, and statements from credible medical experts. If White House officials want to be believed about the president’s “minor symptoms,” for example, they need to “overload the system with truth,” former Clinton press secretary Joe Lockhart told me.
Be completely transparent and willing to document it. To use the ballots-in-river case as an example: Name the local authority in Wisconsin who found the thrown-out ballots in a river (or a creek, or a ditch, as their evolving claim suggested at various points); and tell us exactly where that took place. Give us a map.
Once upon a time, when a president or his press secretary made a statement on an crucially important matter, it was simply considered news. And reported as such.
The time for that is long past. The stakes are higher than ever, and the demand for proof should be, too.
Otherwise, Americans will reasonably come to an unavoidable conclusion: If the statement is from the president’s tweet, or from the press secretary’s mouth, there’s no reason to think it’s true.
BWAHAHAHAHAHA. This is not a laughing matter, its unfortunate he and his staff have ignored all safety measures needed to avoid this virus. I hope they all can recover without longterm complications because this virus is no joke.
Keep in mind I can't stand this president, however he is the president of this country and we still need him to be as healthy as possible till he's completely voted out of office.
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disagree. it's a laughing matter because of the irony alone; of how this shitbag has downplayed it and caused the deaths of literally thousands of people.
i don't wish death on anyone. but i wouldn't mourn him either.
Hugh, I agree with you he brought this on himself with his over the top arrogance. Its amazing to me how we literally have a news change every single day or even hour. The debacle debate is history and I believe there is going to be an even BIGGER story to come b4 the election. Stay safe out there people.
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Anyone I have met today is laughing about this. Obviously I don't wish that the man was dead, but hopefully he has some kind of "saw the light" moment.
i understand the sentiment. but come on, teachers, there's a time and place. i shouldn't have to sit my daughter down, which i just did, and tell her it's never ok to be happy that someone is ill.
jesus christ.
I am not questioning your daughter about the teachers reactions but if it was me I would be 100% certain my daughter explained to me in detail exactly what happened and what was said before I went to the school. Tough spot to be in but if they were openly cheering in front of kids that is sick and I would definitely probably say something.
It’s very possible people on Bidens team were exposed at the debate, as it takes a few days for the infection to generate a positive test result. Will Teflon Don be immune to that political fallout as the trump family did not take the required covid tests in Cleveland nor did they wear masks at the debate.
Anyone I have met today is laughing about this. Obviously I don't wish that the man was dead, but hopefully he has some kind of "saw the light" moment.
i understand the sentiment. but come on, teachers, there's a time and place. i shouldn't have to sit my daughter down, which i just did, and tell her it's never ok to be happy that someone is ill.
jesus christ.
I am not questioning your daughter about the teachers reactions but if it was me I would be 100% certain my daughter explained to me in detail exactly what happened and what was said before I went to the school. Tough spot to be in but if they were openly cheering in front of kids that is sick and I would definitely probably say something.
i did clarify with her afterwards and got the exact details. it wasn't as bad as she initially made it out to be, but still, talking openly within earshot of elementary students about how you're "sort of glad he caught it" because of how reckless he's been, it doesn't matter. kids interpret and spread things in a different way, as my 11 year old did.
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It’s very possible people on Bidens team were exposed at the debate, as it takes a few days for the infection to generate a positive test result. Will Teflon Don be immune to that political fallout as the trump family did not take the required covid tests in Cleveland nor did they wear masks at the debate.
I have always believed that he would never lose favor with his fans. And this would not change that belief.
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i'm going full on cynical here with his taking of that experimental drug. this is his new hydroxychloroquine. he's going to claim it cured him, buy up all the stock, and make millions, before it's proven. calling himself a hero for sacrificing himself for the american people by testing the drug on himself.
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KellyAnn CONway has tested positive and she was hugging and leaning in close with CYA Barr at the White House the other day. How do you like them alternative facts?
I think it means very little that POTUS is hospitalized. It's more like after than a day of quarantine Flotus got sick of POTUS and gave him the boot...and since he pays so much in taxes he is going to get some back in free hospital accommodations...
Donald Trump is being treated with an experimental antibody drug that has shown promising initial early results but has yet to be peer-reviewed. According to statement from his doctor, the president has received a single eight-gram dose of an antibody cocktail called REGN-COV2 – a combination of two human neutralising antibodies against the virus.
The treatment was developed by Regeneron Pharmaceuticals, which previously developed a similar antibody drug against Ebola. He is also taking zinc, vitamin D, melatonin, aspirin and the heartburn drug famotidine – often sold in the US under the brand name Pepcid. Although the drug has not been shown to work against coronavirus, researchers are studying it as a possible treatment.
REGN-COV2 is part of a class of experimental Covid-19 drugs known as monoclonal antibodies: manufactured copies of human antibodies to the virus that are being studied for use in patients with early illness.
Data so far is limited, but the White House coronavirus adviser Anthony Fauci is among those saying it has shown promise.
In a press release earlier this week, Regeneron said the early trial results showed that treatment reduced viral levels and improved symptoms in non-hospitalised Covid-19 patients.
But doctors have said that the president has numerous health factors placing him at risk of complications from Covid-19, including his age and weight.
The White House announced on Friday that the 74-year-old president would be moved to the Walter Reed hospital in Washington DC “out of an abundance of caution, and at the recommendation of his physician and medical experts”.
Both Trump and his wife Melania were earlier described as displaying “mild symptoms” after testing positive.
While doctors expect symptoms such as headache, fever and loss of taste to emerge in the first week of infection, it is in the second week when patients can go dangerously downhill as the virus spreads to the lungs and causes problems with breathing.
As an older man, Trump is already in a high-risk group and being borderline obese raises the risk further.
Figures from around the world suggest the so-called infection fatality rate for someone in their mid-70s is about 4%, but men are nearly twice as likely to die as women and being obese triples the risk of hospital admission.
Trump’s positive test adds to a wealth of evidence that hydroxychloroquine, a drug he said he was taking earlier in the year, does not prevent Covid-19, but over the past nine months clinical trials have found beneficial treatments.
Fever and headache can be helped with paracetamol. Throughout the course of the infection doctors will monitor Trump’s vital signs and blood oxygen saturation, which reveals how the lungs are functioning.
Other treatments are normally reserved for patients in hospital, but remdesivir, an antiviral drug, is thought to be most effective when given early, while the virus is still replicating.
US doctors have raised fresh concerns over Trump’s high levels of “bad cholesterol”, which they claimed put him at risk of a stroke or heart attack.
Given the potential underlying health issues, doctors may be poised to administer antiplatelet or anticoagulant drugs if they fear he is at risk of blood clots.
Dr Barry Dixon, an intensive care doctor at St Vincent’s hospital in Melbourne, said Trump’s risk would increase if he developed pneumonia, which is associated with a high mortality rate, especially in patients over 65 and those with cardiovascular disease or conditions affecting blood vessels of the brain.
“He’s at a much higher risk of dying if he does develop that bad pneumonia,” Dixon said. “There are other risk factors and comorbidities, such as whether you are a heavy smoker, have diabetes, or have heart disease.
Dixon said mild symptoms at the onset did not indicate someone would avoid more severe disease. He said around the one-week mark people either seemed to improve or decline rapidly.
“We tend to see people with very mild symptoms for the first week, that is typical, and in the second week typically people either develop pneumonia or not,” he said.
“If you see someone who just got it, they’ve just tested positive, typically they look well. But we would tell those patients to isolate at home and to come to hospital if they feel short of breath. Because in that second week of the virus, people can go from looking very good to pretty rotten even over just 24 to 48 hours. It’s a quick deterioration, and that’s what we saw with Boris Johnson.”
Prof Peter Collignon, an infectious diseases doctor in Canberra, said: “If he’s well enough to walk and breathe OK, then he’d be fine to go home for a while. But a proportion will deteriorate between five to seven days later, so you’d need to monitor how he is breathing and how he looks.”
Prof Christine Jenkins, head of the respiratory group at the George Institute for Global Health, said while “Trump’s ideas about prophylactic hydroxychloroquine treatment and disinfectants were fake news”, he would probably benefit from the many evidence-based scientific advances made.
It was difficult to estimate his chances of being admitted to intensive care or dying, she said, because these statistics changed frequently as treatment improved.
“Early on we thought if you had Covid, were admitted to intensive care and over 70, you had only a 40-to-50% chance of survival,” Jenkins said.
“Today, those figures are not that bad, and we have had study results come out with promising findings about treatments for people who do become severely unwell, such as the drug dexamethasone.”
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How can we take the irresponsibility of Hope's Hickey spreading Covid and our own mismanagement of it and knock all the negative press of this past week off the front page and re-energize our struggling campaign for re-election? "Dramatic trip to Walter Reed, Mr. President." Lets do it. Get make up and hair in here pronto!
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Journalists, beware: This White House can’t be trusted to be truthful about Trump’s health
With President Trump apparently struck by covid-19 a month before a critical election and after 200,000 American deaths from the disease, what we really need right now is an entirely credible, fact-based voice from the White House.
Good luck with that.
The Greek philosopher Diogenes was said to have wandered the streets of Athens with a lantern searching in vain for someone to speak the truth. I don’t think he’d have any better luck at the top level of the executive branch right now, despite our extraordinary need for trustworthy communication.
With the exception of Anthony S. Fauci, and maybe a few other top medical experts, there isn’t a trusted truth-teller in sight.
“Donald Trump’s way of dealing with negative news is consistent: Hide it, spin it, and always lie about it,” said Tim O’Brien, a Trump biographer and now a Bloomberg Opinion columnist who was once sued, unsuccessfully, by the then-developer.
This moment, O’Brien told me, doesn’t promise to be any different despite the incredibly high stakes for national security as our allies and adversaries assess what’s happening and act accordingly, as markets react, and as more lives are threatened by exposure to the disease.
Biden tests negative for coronavirus; Trump experiencing ‘mild symptoms’ after positive test
It’s no secret that a culture of lies permeates the White House. There has been a parade of press secretaries with a remarkably consistent record of failing to tell the truth to reporters and the general public. It started on the very first day of the Trump administration, when Sean Spicer lied by insisting falsely, at the president’s behest, that his inaugural crowd was the largest of all time.
That kind of dissembling is still happening on press secretary Kayleigh McEnany’s watch. At a briefing Thursday, Fox News Radio White House correspondent Jon Decker pressed her to provide details about Trump’s public claim that voters’ mail-in ballots had been “dumped in rivers.”
Where’s the river, Decker wanted to know and who is the “they” who found them there?
McEnany responded in her usual cocksure manner: “Local authorities. It was a ditch in Wisconsin.” She provided no other specifics, and let’s be clear: This is a hyperbolic tale meant to further voter mistrust in the integrity of the election.
This is the same press secretary who promised at the start of her tenure last spring that she would never lie to the press — and then immediately began to spread untruths.
The problem, to put it mildly, is widespread among administration officials. But it starts at the top with Trump himself who lies so relentlessly. As The Post’s Glenn Kessler put it in his introduction to the book “Donald Trump and the His Assault on Truth”: “The pace and frequency of Trump’s falsehoods can feel mind-numbing — and many Americans appear to have tuned out.”
In this latest crisis, the predictable cycle of dangerous obfuscation has already begun. It was only after Bloomberg News reported that Trump aide Hope Hicks had tested positive for coronavirus that the White House acknowledged it.
Years of the White House obscuring health information add instability at a tricky moment
Would we even know about Trump’s diagnosis if it weren’t for that? Maybe not. What about those he has come in contact with in recent days? Would they know they were endangered? The indications aren’t good. Yamiche Alcindor, the PBS White House correspondent, reported Friday that there was “no contact from the Trump campaign or the White House to alert the Biden campaign of possible exposure.” The campaign learned of the situation from news reports.
And when it comes to Trump’s health, he and his minions have a history of dubious statements. His former personal physician, Harold Bornstein, confessed that Trump dictated the doctor’s glowing 2015 letter that “his physical strength and stamina are extraordinary,” and that, if elected, Trump would be “the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency.” More recently, his trip to Walter Reed National Military Medical Center last November remains all too mysterious; reasonable questions were never satisfactorily answered.
What is the press to do?
Obviously, keep up with the kind of aggressive reporting that has revealed what’s happening. But be wary — even more wary than before — of taking any Trump or White House statements at face value and transmitting them to the public.
Reporters should be pressing for documentation, specific timelines, and statements from credible medical experts. If White House officials want to be believed about the president’s “minor symptoms,” for example, they need to “overload the system with truth,” former Clinton press secretary Joe Lockhart told me.
Be completely transparent and willing to document it. To use the ballots-in-river case as an example: Name the local authority in Wisconsin who found the thrown-out ballots in a river (or a creek, or a ditch, as their evolving claim suggested at various points); and tell us exactly where that took place. Give us a map.
Once upon a time, when a president or his press secretary made a statement on an crucially important matter, it was simply considered news. And reported as such.
The time for that is long past. The stakes are higher than ever, and the demand for proof should be, too.
Otherwise, Americans will reasonably come to an unavoidable conclusion: If the statement is from the president’s tweet, or from the press secretary’s mouth, there’s no reason to think it’s true.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/media/trump-coronavirus-media-lies/2020/10/02/9b0127d6-04ba-11eb-897d-3a6201d6643f_story.html
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/02/donald-trump-receiving-treatment-yet-to-be-peer-reviewed
Donald Trump is being treated with an experimental antibody drug that has shown promising initial early results but has yet to be peer-reviewed. According to statement from his doctor, the president has received a single eight-gram dose of an antibody cocktail called REGN-COV2 – a combination of two human neutralising antibodies against the virus.
The treatment was developed by Regeneron Pharmaceuticals, which previously developed a similar antibody drug against Ebola. He is also taking zinc, vitamin D, melatonin, aspirin and the heartburn drug famotidine – often sold in the US under the brand name Pepcid. Although the drug has not been shown to work against coronavirus, researchers are studying it as a possible treatment.
REGN-COV2 is part of a class of experimental Covid-19 drugs known as monoclonal antibodies: manufactured copies of human antibodies to the virus that are being studied for use in patients with early illness.
Data so far is limited, but the White House coronavirus adviser Anthony Fauci is among those saying it has shown promise.
In a press release earlier this week, Regeneron said the early trial results showed that treatment reduced viral levels and improved symptoms in non-hospitalised Covid-19 patients.
But doctors have said that the president has numerous health factors placing him at risk of complications from Covid-19, including his age and weight.
The White House announced on Friday that the 74-year-old president would be moved to the Walter Reed hospital in Washington DC “out of an abundance of caution, and at the recommendation of his physician and medical experts”.
Both Trump and his wife Melania were earlier described as displaying “mild symptoms” after testing positive.
While doctors expect symptoms such as headache, fever and loss of taste to emerge in the first week of infection, it is in the second week when patients can go dangerously downhill as the virus spreads to the lungs and causes problems with breathing.
As an older man, Trump is already in a high-risk group and being borderline obese raises the risk further.
Figures from around the world suggest the so-called infection fatality rate for someone in their mid-70s is about 4%, but men are nearly twice as likely to die as women and being obese triples the risk of hospital admission.
Trump’s positive test adds to a wealth of evidence that hydroxychloroquine, a drug he said he was taking earlier in the year, does not prevent Covid-19, but over the past nine months clinical trials have found beneficial treatments.
Fever and headache can be helped with paracetamol. Throughout the course of the infection doctors will monitor Trump’s vital signs and blood oxygen saturation, which reveals how the lungs are functioning.
Other treatments are normally reserved for patients in hospital, but remdesivir, an antiviral drug, is thought to be most effective when given early, while the virus is still replicating.
US doctors have raised fresh concerns over Trump’s high levels of “bad cholesterol”, which they claimed put him at risk of a stroke or heart attack.
Given the potential underlying health issues, doctors may be poised to administer antiplatelet or anticoagulant drugs if they fear he is at risk of blood clots.
Dr Barry Dixon, an intensive care doctor at St Vincent’s hospital in Melbourne, said Trump’s risk would increase if he developed pneumonia, which is associated with a high mortality rate, especially in patients over 65 and those with cardiovascular disease or conditions affecting blood vessels of the brain.
“He’s at a much higher risk of dying if he does develop that bad pneumonia,” Dixon said. “There are other risk factors and comorbidities, such as whether you are a heavy smoker, have diabetes, or have heart disease.
Dixon said mild symptoms at the onset did not indicate someone would avoid more severe disease. He said around the one-week mark people either seemed to improve or decline rapidly.
“We tend to see people with very mild symptoms for the first week, that is typical, and in the second week typically people either develop pneumonia or not,” he said.
“If you see someone who just got it, they’ve just tested positive, typically they look well. But we would tell those patients to isolate at home and to come to hospital if they feel short of breath. Because in that second week of the virus, people can go from looking very good to pretty rotten even over just 24 to 48 hours. It’s a quick deterioration, and that’s what we saw with Boris Johnson.”
Prof Peter Collignon, an infectious diseases doctor in Canberra, said: “If he’s well enough to walk and breathe OK, then he’d be fine to go home for a while. But a proportion will deteriorate between five to seven days later, so you’d need to monitor how he is breathing and how he looks.”
Prof Christine Jenkins, head of the respiratory group at the George Institute for Global Health, said while “Trump’s ideas about prophylactic hydroxychloroquine treatment and disinfectants were fake news”, he would probably benefit from the many evidence-based scientific advances made.
It was difficult to estimate his chances of being admitted to intensive care or dying, she said, because these statistics changed frequently as treatment improved.
“Early on we thought if you had Covid, were admitted to intensive care and over 70, you had only a 40-to-50% chance of survival,” Jenkins said.
“Today, those figures are not that bad, and we have had study results come out with promising findings about treatments for people who do become severely unwell, such as the drug dexamethasone.”