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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,591
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    As compromised as they come.

    https://apple.news/ABRHhDAkIQZG0gJwbaZUftA
    The bad thing is that this article also brings to light a 1.5b$ deal that involves Hunter Biden. Leading me to ask is trumps deal worse or better than the Biden deal?
    Hunter Biden isn’t POTUS and if his father was, I’m sure US policy toward China would bend to their will. Absolutely convinced. Hunter was only in for $400K. But yea, both sides. 

    “Brings to light?” It’s been public for a while now and if Team Trump Treason or Moscow Mitchy Baby wanted to, they could sic Ruddy Ghouliani, with his track record of success, on it, open a senate committee investigation or have CYA Barr open an investigation. Why haven’t they done that?

    $400K of personal investment versus $200+ Million of loans coming due. In which case is there leverage and who exercises it?
    Can someone translate this hyperbole for me?
    1. Biden wasn't president
    2. Hunter's deal was worth 400k
    3. Trump, as the head, is in for 200 million plus interest
    4. Hyperbole does not mean what you think it means
  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    edited April 2020
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    As compromised as they come.

    https://apple.news/ABRHhDAkIQZG0gJwbaZUftA
    The bad thing is that this article also brings to light a 1.5b$ deal that involves Hunter Biden. Leading me to ask is trumps deal worse or better than the Biden deal?
    Hunter Biden isn’t POTUS and if his father was, I’m sure US policy toward China would bend to their will. Absolutely convinced. Hunter was only in for $400K. But yea, both sides. 

    “Brings to light?” It’s been public for a while now and if Team Trump Treason or Moscow Mitchy Baby wanted to, they could sic Ruddy Ghouliani, with his track record of success, on it, open a senate committee investigation or have CYA Barr open an investigation. Why haven’t they done that?

    $400K of personal investment versus $200+ Million of loans coming due. In which case is there leverage and who exercises it?
    Can someone translate this hyperbole for me?
    1. Biden wasn't president
    2. Hunter's deal was worth 400k
    3. Trump, as the head, is in for 200 million plus interest
    Thank you.  All this aside, won’t the average reader pickup that Hunter Biden was involved in a 1.5b$ deal. It just doesn’t seem like something that the deflector in Chief would have a problem spinning to make his deal not look as bad. Which is the original point I was trying to make.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,368
    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/24/trump-poll-2020-205722


    Trump's poor poll numbers trigger GOP alarms over November

    Senior Republicans and President Donald Trump’s campaign are wrestling with how to best position him for November as the coronavirus poses a grave threat to his reelection.

    With Trump’s poll figures sagging in key battleground states six months out from the election, the Republican National Committee has launched a massive effort to reach some 20 million swing voters to make an affirmative case for his performance. But Trump campaign officials are taking a different approach: Rather than devoting resources to boost Trump’s numbers, which haven’t moved materially since he was elected, they want to go scorched earth against Joe Biden.

    Over the past few weeks, the Trump campaign has unveiled a digital ad savaging Biden over his relationship with China. It also launched a weekly online program dubbed "War Room" in which presidential advisers take aim at the former vice president on an array of issues. The campaign has also weighed a major TV offensive going after Biden.

    The deliberations illustrate how the highest ranks of the Republican Party are grappling with the uncertainty the coronavirus crisis has injected into the race — and how best to prepare for a general election that looks nothing like what they'd been anticipating.

    There are indications that Trump’s response to the crisis is taking a toll. His campaign’s internal polling shows that the president’s initial bump in managing the virus has dissipated, according to a person familiar with the results. An NBC/Wall Street Journal poll released over the weekend revealed that voters thought Biden would do a better job than Trump in managing the virus by a 9-point margin, and new surveys show Trump trailing Biden in Florida, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

    Alarm about Trump’s standing is trickling to down-ballot races. A Fox News poll released earlier this week showed the GOP candidate trailing 13 percentage points in the Michigan Senate race, a contest the party has been targeting aggressively.

    “Historically, it is important for the president to be competitive in battleground states not just for his own race, but to enable an environment that is strong enough for statewide and down-ballot candidates to have the footing they need to run successful campaigns," said Nick Everhart, a veteran Republican strategist.

    The voter outreach has become a singular focus of the RNC over the past month. Reading from prepared scripts in phone calls, party officials and volunteers have highlighted Trump’s decision to ban travel from China and his work with Democrats on the crisis. They have also left voicemails from Lara Trump, the president’s daughter-in-law. Using the party’s massive data machine, Republicans are targeting the battleground voters seen as most likely to be swayed and likely to decide the election.


    The committee has also begun a seven-figure digital advertising blitz spotlighting praise for the president from Democratic governors Gavin Newsom of California and Andrew Cuomo of New York. Rarely has the committee spent so heavily on ads so early in an election year.

    White House counselor Kellyanne Conway, Trump’s 2016 campaign manager, has also advocated for playing up Trump's accomplishments in responding to the crisis. She opposed the reelection campaign’s idea to wage a TV advertising offensive against Biden on China.

    Others say there’s little public appetite in a slash-and-burn campaign at a time when Americans are suffering. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, a Trump adviser and ally, said the president should wait until the late August convention to begin a full-fledged campaign and instead focus on dealing with the crisis.

    Dealing with it effectively, he contended, would virtually cement Trump's reelection.

    “His best strategy is to follow FDR’s example and be Dr. Defeat the Virus and then Dr. Create Jobs and Prosperity,” Gingrich said.

    Yet campaign officials see reason to begin nuking Biden, especially as the former vice president ramps up his attacks. Liberal outside groups have spent millions of dollars on TV ads in battleground states going after Trump. The former vice president’s campaign, meanwhile, recently released a web video charging that Trump left the country “unprepared and unprotected” — a spot that even some Republicans acknowledged was effective.

    “The most important thing — and the lesson that most successful candidates learn early on — is to define your opponent before they define you,” said former Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski, who is serving as a senior adviser to the reelection campaign. “We’ve got what I think is the greatest counter-puncher in the history of politics in Donald Trump, and when he brands people, it tends to stay with them for a long, long time.”

    The Trump team views China as one of their most effective lines of attack against Biden. The campaign’s digital advertisement accused the former vice president of having a cozy relationship with the country. Days after the commercial was released, the pro-Trump super PAC America First Action issued several ads accusing Biden of trying to advance China’s interests.


    Complicating the anti-China push is that Trump has at times had kind words for President Xi Jinping. But campaign officials are undeterred and say their desire to tie Biden to the country is grounded in data. This week, Trump pollster John McLaughlin commissioned a survey that found that 70 percent of likely voters believed that China knowingly kept coronavirus information from world health officials.

     

    Others see little point in pushing a positive message about Trump: Views of him are baked in, they argue, and winning over a sizable number of those who oppose him is futile. The focus should be on bringing down Biden, they say.

    “Donald Trump’s numbers are harder than diamonds. He can’t budge them with dynamite because he is who he is, and that won’t change until Washington freezes over,” said Alex Castellanos, a longtime Republican strategist who helped to oversee a pro-Trump super PAC in 2016. “Define Biden is the way to go.”

    Ultimately, it is Trump himself who is likely to determine how and when to engage Biden. The president recently chose to delay the proposed TV assault on Biden over China, according to two people familiar with the decision.

    But during a Tuesday briefing, Trump noted that “there's been nobody tougher than me on China,” and pointed out that he made the country a centerpiece of his 2016 campaign. The same could well be true this time.

    “We think we know where [the virus] came from,” he said, “and we'll be talking about that probably a lot.”

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,368
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    As compromised as they come.

    https://apple.news/ABRHhDAkIQZG0gJwbaZUftA
    The bad thing is that this article also brings to light a 1.5b$ deal that involves Hunter Biden. Leading me to ask is trumps deal worse or better than the Biden deal?
    Hunter Biden isn’t POTUS and if his father was, I’m sure US policy toward China would bend to their will. Absolutely convinced. Hunter was only in for $400K. But yea, both sides. 

    “Brings to light?” It’s been public for a while now and if Team Trump Treason or Moscow Mitchy Baby wanted to, they could sic Ruddy Ghouliani, with his track record of success, on it, open a senate committee investigation or have CYA Barr open an investigation. Why haven’t they done that?

    $400K of personal investment versus $200+ Million of loans coming due. In which case is there leverage and who exercises it?
    Can someone translate this hyperbole for me?
    1. Biden wasn't president
    2. Hunter's deal was worth 400k
    3. Trump, as the head, is in for 200 million plus interest
    Thank you.  All this aside, won’t the average reader pickup that Hunter Biden was involved in a 1.5b$ deal. It just doesn’t seem like something that the deflector in Chief would have a problem spinning to make his deal not look as bad. Which is the original point I was trying to make.
    One guy is a regular citizen. The other guy is...the president of the United States. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,096
    edited April 2020
    PJNB said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    As compromised as they come.

    https://apple.news/ABRHhDAkIQZG0gJwbaZUftA
    The bad thing is that this article also brings to light a 1.5b$ deal that involves Hunter Biden. Leading me to ask is trumps deal worse or better than the Biden deal?
    Hunter Biden isn’t POTUS and if his father was, I’m sure US policy toward China would bend to their will. Absolutely convinced. Hunter was only in for $400K. But yea, both sides. 

    “Brings to light?” It’s been public for a while now and if Team Trump Treason or Moscow Mitchy Baby wanted to, they could sic Ruddy Ghouliani, with his track record of success, on it, open a senate committee investigation or have CYA Barr open an investigation. Why haven’t they done that?

    $400K of personal investment versus $200+ Million of loans coming due. In which case is there leverage and who exercises it?
    Can someone translate this hyperbole for me?
    1. Biden wasn't president
    2. Hunter's deal was worth 400k
    3. Trump, as the head, is in for 200 million plus interest
    4. Hyperbole does not mean what you think it means
    I know precisely what hyperbole means.  But I also understood what he was asking using 'context clues'.  So I summarized it. 

    edit - reading again, I'm not sure if you were buttoning onto my list, or taking a shot at me. 
    Post edited by mrussel1 on
  • Vedd HeddVedd Hedd Posts: 4,608
    I dont check this thread often.  Just curious if anyone is still supporting this guy after his recent suggestions of injecting either disenfectants or sunlight into the body to kill the coronavirus?

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,707
    Vedd Hedd said:
    I dont check this thread often.  Just curious if anyone is still supporting this guy after his recent suggestions of injecting either disenfectants or sunlight into the body to kill the coronavirus?

    Newt The Beaut Full of Family Values Gingrich is, apparently.
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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    PJNB said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    As compromised as they come.

    https://apple.news/ABRHhDAkIQZG0gJwbaZUftA
    The bad thing is that this article also brings to light a 1.5b$ deal that involves Hunter Biden. Leading me to ask is trumps deal worse or better than the Biden deal?
    Hunter Biden isn’t POTUS and if his father was, I’m sure US policy toward China would bend to their will. Absolutely convinced. Hunter was only in for $400K. But yea, both sides. 

    “Brings to light?” It’s been public for a while now and if Team Trump Treason or Moscow Mitchy Baby wanted to, they could sic Ruddy Ghouliani, with his track record of success, on it, open a senate committee investigation or have CYA Barr open an investigation. Why haven’t they done that?

    $400K of personal investment versus $200+ Million of loans coming due. In which case is there leverage and who exercises it?
    Can someone translate this hyperbole for me?
    1. Biden wasn't president
    2. Hunter's deal was worth 400k
    3. Trump, as the head, is in for 200 million plus interest
    4. Hyperbole does not mean what you think it means
    Until a strong enough case is made to remove trump from office or get him and Mitch in a jail cell, terms like Team Trump Treason and Moscow Mitch are hyperbole.  As is stating what you think Biden would do if he were in office before he actually has the office and a chance to set his policies.   So yeah I think there were some exaggerated claims in the OPs original response to me that I don’t take seriously. If Halifax intended that or not is not up to me, that’s how I took it.
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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    mrussel1 said:
    PJNB said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    As compromised as they come.

    https://apple.news/ABRHhDAkIQZG0gJwbaZUftA
    The bad thing is that this article also brings to light a 1.5b$ deal that involves Hunter Biden. Leading me to ask is trumps deal worse or better than the Biden deal?
    Hunter Biden isn’t POTUS and if his father was, I’m sure US policy toward China would bend to their will. Absolutely convinced. Hunter was only in for $400K. But yea, both sides. 

    “Brings to light?” It’s been public for a while now and if Team Trump Treason or Moscow Mitchy Baby wanted to, they could sic Ruddy Ghouliani, with his track record of success, on it, open a senate committee investigation or have CYA Barr open an investigation. Why haven’t they done that?

    $400K of personal investment versus $200+ Million of loans coming due. In which case is there leverage and who exercises it?
    Can someone translate this hyperbole for me?
    1. Biden wasn't president
    2. Hunter's deal was worth 400k
    3. Trump, as the head, is in for 200 million plus interest
    4. Hyperbole does not mean what you think it means
    I know precisely what hyperbole means.  But I also understood what he was asking using 'context clues'.  So I summarized it. 

    edit - reading again, I'm not sure if you were buttoning onto my list, or taking a shot at me. 
    Pretty sure he was buttoning on to your list to try to take a well ackshually shot at me.
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  • Vedd HeddVedd Hedd Posts: 4,608
    Vedd Hedd said:
    I dont check this thread often.  Just curious if anyone is still supporting this guy after his recent suggestions of injecting either disenfectants or sunlight into the body to kill the coronavirus?

    Newt The Beaut Full of Family Values Gingrich is, apparently.
    I meant more along the lines of anyone on here. 
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  • Abe FromanAbe Froman Posts: 5,309
    edited April 2020
    Maybe drinking or injecting disinfectants will work?  I think Donald should be the first to try it. 
    Post edited by Abe Froman on
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,707
    I can't control what people think. But I'm sure there are some still waiting for indictments for emails, Uranium1, CF or complain when ex/politicos write books and give speeches earning money. Team Trump Treason was impeached for shaking down a foreign government and stated, "I don't recall," at least 7 times to written questions from Team Mueller (can't indict a sitting president, did you forget?). Moscow Mitchy Baby's wife has her own suspect relationships (look up Elaine Cho and her conflicts of interest) and Kentucky welcomed a massive Russian owned smelter to locate there, in addition to the NRA spending more than 10 times its usual amount in the 2016 election cycle. So yea, hyperbole, and lets worry about Hunter Biden. 

    Until a strong enough case is made to arrest Hunter Biden and charge him with a crime, making the comparison to Team Trump Treason and Moscow Mitchy Baby is hyperbole.
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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    edited April 2020
    I can't control what people think. But I'm sure there are some still waiting for indictments for emails, Uranium1, CF or complain when ex/politicos write books and give speeches earning money. Team Trump Treason was impeached for shaking down a foreign government and stated, "I don't recall," at least 7 times to written questions from Team Mueller (can't indict a sitting president, did you forget?). Moscow Mitchy Baby's wife has her own suspect relationships (look up Elaine Cho and her conflicts of interest) and Kentucky welcomed a massive Russian owned smelter to locate there, in addition to the NRA spending more than 10 times its usual amount in the 2016 election cycle. So yea, hyperbole, and lets worry about Hunter Biden. 

    Until a strong enough case is made to arrest Hunter Biden and charge him with a crime, making the comparison to Team Trump Treason and Moscow Mitchy Baby is hyperbole.
    Obviously you have very strong opinions on the matter.  My point was and still is that the article also brings to light that the dem nominees son is also involved in a 1.5b$ deal.  Point being that that is exactly the kind of thing that the RNC can use against Joe. But I guess it is better to throw your hands up in the air and grandstand the moral high ground than to question how this could be damaging to the Democratic candidate. Because to the uneducated voter at large it is absolutely a blunt force weapon in the hands of your very own triple T.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,040
    Vedd Hedd said:
    I dont check this thread often.  Just curious if anyone is still supporting this guy after his recent suggestions of injecting either disenfectants or sunlight into the body to kill the coronavirus?

    If the normal pattern is followed they will have people at today's conference that will back up what Trump said yesterday.  Pence will probably drink Lysol on stage and test himself for Corona live
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,707
    static111 said:
    I can't control what people think. But I'm sure there are some still waiting for indictments for emails, Uranium1, CF or complain when ex/politicos write books and give speeches earning money. Team Trump Treason was impeached for shaking down a foreign government and stated, "I don't recall," at least 7 times to written questions from Team Mueller (can't indict a sitting president, did you forget?). Moscow Mitchy Baby's wife has her own suspect relationships (look up Elaine Cho and her conflicts of interest) and Kentucky welcomed a massive Russian owned smelter to locate there, in addition to the NRA spending more than 10 times its usual amount in the 2016 election cycle. So yea, hyperbole, and lets worry about Hunter Biden. 

    Until a strong enough case is made to arrest Hunter Biden and charge him with a crime, making the comparison to Team Trump Treason and Moscow Mitchy Baby is hyperbole.
    Obviously you have very strong opinions on the matter.  My point was and still is that the article also brings to light that the dem nominees son is also involved in a 1.5b$ deal.  Point being that that is exactly the kind of thing that the RNC can use against Joe. But I guess it is better to throw your hands up in the air and grandstand the moral high ground than to question how this could be damaging to the Democratic candidate. Because to the uneducated voter at large it is absolutely a blunt force weapon in the hands of your very own triple T.
    That's the real problem, not Hunter Biden's thus far legal business dealings. I would love for Team Trump Treason to bring it up in a debate with Sleepy Woke Joe. You think the Biden camp isn't ready for a response? All that praise of China and Xi and the false narrative of tariffs? Not to mention a quarter of a billion dollar loan?

    The article also states that Hunter's "stake" was $400K and he resigned from the position. I'll ask you, which is a better/worse deal and who is compromised?
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,096
    So how does the president possibly make the 'cleansing' and 'disinfectant' comment even worse?  Well he did it, by claiming he was being sarcastic.  So Mr. POTUS, you thought the right strategy to communicate with the country during a pandemic was to use sarcasm?  Really?

    "I was asking in a very sarcastic question to the reporters in the room about disinfectant on the inside," the president continued. "But it does kill it, and it would kill it on the hands and that would make things much better. That was done in the form of a sarcastic question to the reporters."
  • FiveBelowFiveBelow Posts: 1,304
    CM189191 said:
    Holy shit, I just want to point out I posted this back in March: 

    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/comment/7148311#Comment_7148311


    Look at me, look at me! Not only were you pretending to understand a virus that health professionals almost 2 months later are still trying to wrap their minds around, you also encouraged drinking bleach. You are like the president of this thread, congratulations!
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,304
    mrussel1 said:
    So how does the president possibly make the 'cleansing' and 'disinfectant' comment even worse?  Well he did it, by claiming he was being sarcastic.  So Mr. POTUS, you thought the right strategy to communicate with the country during a pandemic was to use sarcasm?  Really?

    "I was asking in a very sarcastic question to the reporters in the room about disinfectant on the inside," the president continued. "But it does kill it, and it would kill it on the hands and that would make things much better. That was done in the form of a sarcastic question to the reporters."
    he is confusing sarcasm with bombast.

    or sarcasm and stupid.
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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    edited April 2020
    static111 said:
    I can't control what people think. But I'm sure there are some still waiting for indictments for emails, Uranium1, CF or complain when ex/politicos write books and give speeches earning money. Team Trump Treason was impeached for shaking down a foreign government and stated, "I don't recall," at least 7 times to written questions from Team Mueller (can't indict a sitting president, did you forget?). Moscow Mitchy Baby's wife has her own suspect relationships (look up Elaine Cho and her conflicts of interest) and Kentucky welcomed a massive Russian owned smelter to locate there, in addition to the NRA spending more than 10 times its usual amount in the 2016 election cycle. So yea, hyperbole, and lets worry about Hunter Biden. 

    Until a strong enough case is made to arrest Hunter Biden and charge him with a crime, making the comparison to Team Trump Treason and Moscow Mitchy Baby is hyperbole.
    Obviously you have very strong opinions on the matter.  My point was and still is that the article also brings to light that the dem nominees son is also involved in a 1.5b$ deal.  Point being that that is exactly the kind of thing that the RNC can use against Joe. But I guess it is better to throw your hands up in the air and grandstand the moral high ground than to question how this could be damaging to the Democratic candidate. Because to the uneducated voter at large it is absolutely a blunt force weapon in the hands of your very own triple T.
    That's the real problem, not Hunter Biden's thus far legal business dealings. I would love for Team Trump Treason to bring it up in a debate with Sleepy Woke Joe. You think the Biden camp isn't ready for a response? All that praise of China and Xi and the false narrative of tariffs? Not to mention a quarter of a billion dollar loan?

    The article also states that Hunter's "stake" was $400K and he resigned from the position. I'll ask you, which is a better/worse deal and who is compromised?
    This has nothing to do with what you or I think is better or worse and everything to do with how Trump could weaponize it.  I pretty much agree with you.  Whether we have moral high ground or not means absolutely nothing anymore. It is going to come down to who can get the best news bites, memes and zingers.  I’m not even trusting trump will join a debate.  In this thread we are in a bubble of like minded people for the most part. Of course we all agree that the current administration is a disaster, as well that Trumps deal is far worse than the deal that Hunter is involved with. Allowing our belief in what is right can seriously cloud our judgement as to Trumps actual chances to win a reelection and pick apart our candidates weaknesses.  This is the country that re-elected W after he started a groundless occupation in Iraq for gods sake.  You think the public at large is going to cling to the fact that Bidens sons stake is only 400k? 400k is more than the average voter makes in two to 4 years. I don’t believe that the odds are clearly in favor of Trump being a one term president, and believe that it is completely ok to look at my sides candidates weaknesses when it comes to influencing the voters that will decide the upcoming election.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,368
    CM189191 said:
    Holy shit, I just want to point out I posted this back in March: 

    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/comment/7148311#Comment_7148311


    haha...this is great. 

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,707
    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    I can't control what people think. But I'm sure there are some still waiting for indictments for emails, Uranium1, CF or complain when ex/politicos write books and give speeches earning money. Team Trump Treason was impeached for shaking down a foreign government and stated, "I don't recall," at least 7 times to written questions from Team Mueller (can't indict a sitting president, did you forget?). Moscow Mitchy Baby's wife has her own suspect relationships (look up Elaine Cho and her conflicts of interest) and Kentucky welcomed a massive Russian owned smelter to locate there, in addition to the NRA spending more than 10 times its usual amount in the 2016 election cycle. So yea, hyperbole, and lets worry about Hunter Biden. 

    Until a strong enough case is made to arrest Hunter Biden and charge him with a crime, making the comparison to Team Trump Treason and Moscow Mitchy Baby is hyperbole.
    Obviously you have very strong opinions on the matter.  My point was and still is that the article also brings to light that the dem nominees son is also involved in a 1.5b$ deal.  Point being that that is exactly the kind of thing that the RNC can use against Joe. But I guess it is better to throw your hands up in the air and grandstand the moral high ground than to question how this could be damaging to the Democratic candidate. Because to the uneducated voter at large it is absolutely a blunt force weapon in the hands of your very own triple T.
    That's the real problem, not Hunter Biden's thus far legal business dealings. I would love for Team Trump Treason to bring it up in a debate with Sleepy Woke Joe. You think the Biden camp isn't ready for a response? All that praise of China and Xi and the false narrative of tariffs? Not to mention a quarter of a billion dollar loan?

    The article also states that Hunter's "stake" was $400K and he resigned from the position. I'll ask you, which is a better/worse deal and who is compromised?
    This has nothing to do with what you or I think is better or worse and everything to do with how Trump could weaponize it.  I pretty much agree with you.  Whether we have moral high ground or not means absolutely nothing anymore. It is going to come down to who can get the best news bites, memes and zingers.  I’m not even trusting trump will join a debate.  In this thread we are in a bubble of like minded people for the most part. Of course we all agree that the current administration is a disaster, as well that Trumps deal is far worse than the deal that Hunter is involved with. Allowing our belief in what is right can seriously cloud our judgement as to Trumps actual chances to win a reelection and pick apart our candidates weaknesses.  This is the country that re-elected W after he started a groundless occupation in Iraq for gods sake.  You think the public at large is going to cling to the fact that Bidens sons stake is only 400k? 400k is more than the average voter makes in two to 4 years. I don’t believe that the odds are clearly in favor of Trump being a one term president, and believe that it is completely ok to look at my sides candidates weaknesses when it comes to influencing the voters that will decide the upcoming election.
    If the average voter and the uneducated ones at that, vote Team Trump Treason over Sleepy Woke Joe, after the complete and total shit show we've witnessed for the past three years, because of Hunter Biden's so far legal business dealings with China, then this country has way more problems and deserves everything that another four years of Team Trump Treason will bring.

    Funny how you can ask me whether or who had the better/worse deal and yet when you're asked the same, or who is more "compromised," you deflected. I hate to break it to you but there are no pure as the driven snow candidates. None. Its all degrees of who has done less bad shit or more good shit, after policy considerations. Where does Team Trump Treason compare to Sleepy Woke Joe on that metric or continuum? Do you think there is nothing of Team Trump Treason's to weaponize at this point?

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    this guy seems pretty reasonable...


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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,853
    Hi! said:


    That second pic looks like Lifeson soloing in la Villa.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,707
    Hi! said:


    That second pic looks like Lifeson soloing in la Villa.
    How could these not be Sleepy Woke Joe campaign ads? "Put an adult in the White House, vote Biden 2020."
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,373
    I suggested to one of the surgeons I work with to try doing the procedure a different way. He called me a #moron. I then told him I was just being #sarcastic. It was all good after that and he forgot all about it.
    lol I can just picture this scene, surgeons can be so damn blunt at times but specially in their OR suites.
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    edited April 2020
    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    I can't control what people think. But I'm sure there are some still waiting for indictments for emails, Uranium1, CF or complain when ex/politicos write books and give speeches earning money. Team Trump Treason was impeached for shaking down a foreign government and stated, "I don't recall," at least 7 times to written questions from Team Mueller (can't indict a sitting president, did you forget?). Moscow Mitchy Baby's wife has her own suspect relationships (look up Elaine Cho and her conflicts of interest) and Kentucky welcomed a massive Russian owned smelter to locate there, in addition to the NRA spending more than 10 times its usual amount in the 2016 election cycle. So yea, hyperbole, and lets worry about Hunter Biden. 

    Until a strong enough case is made to arrest Hunter Biden and charge him with a crime, making the comparison to Team Trump Treason and Moscow Mitchy Baby is hyperbole.
    Obviously you have very strong opinions on the matter.  My point was and still is that the article also brings to light that the dem nominees son is also involved in a 1.5b$ deal.  Point being that that is exactly the kind of thing that the RNC can use against Joe. But I guess it is better to throw your hands up in the air and grandstand the moral high ground than to question how this could be damaging to the Democratic candidate. Because to the uneducated voter at large it is absolutely a blunt force weapon in the hands of your very own triple T.
    That's the real problem, not Hunter Biden's thus far legal business dealings. I would love for Team Trump Treason to bring it up in a debate with Sleepy Woke Joe. You think the Biden camp isn't ready for a response? All that praise of China and Xi and the false narrative of tariffs? Not to mention a quarter of a billion dollar loan?

    The article also states that Hunter's "stake" was $400K and he resigned from the position. I'll ask you, which is a better/worse deal and who is compromised?
    This has nothing to do with what you or I think is better or worse and everything to do with how Trump could weaponize it.  I pretty much agree with you.  Whether we have moral high ground or not means absolutely nothing anymore. It is going to come down to who can get the best news bites, memes and zingers.  I’m not even trusting trump will join a debate.  In this thread we are in a bubble of like minded people for the most part. Of course we all agree that the current administration is a disaster, as well that Trumps deal is far worse than the deal that Hunter is involved with. Allowing our belief in what is right can seriously cloud our judgement as to Trumps actual chances to win a reelection and pick apart our candidates weaknesses.  This is the country that re-elected W after he started a groundless occupation in Iraq for gods sake.  You think the public at large is going to cling to the fact that Bidens sons stake is only 400k? 400k is more than the average voter makes in two to 4 years. I don’t believe that the odds are clearly in favor of Trump being a one term president, and believe that it is completely ok to look at my sides candidates weaknesses when it comes to influencing the voters that will decide the upcoming election.
    If the average voter and the uneducated ones at that, vote Team Trump Treason over Sleepy Woke Joe, after the complete and total shit show we've witnessed for the past three years, because of Hunter Biden's so far legal business dealings with China, then this country has way more problems and deserves everything that another four years of Team Trump Treason will bring.

    Funny how you can ask me whether or who had the better/worse deal and yet when you're asked the same, or who is more "compromised," you deflected. I hate to break it to you but there are no pure as the driven snow candidates. None. Its all degrees of who has done less bad shit or more good shit, after policy considerations. Where does Team Trump Treason compare to Sleepy Woke Joe on that metric or continuum? Do you think there is nothing of Team Trump Treason's to weaponize at this point?

    PS: Both of Bush's terms were stolen and I expect the same in 2020. All the stops will be pulled, inclusive of Russian interference. And the uneducated voter will fall for it.
    I did not deflect I stated that Trumps deal was worse. I just went back and underlined and bolded it for you. I also said that I agree with you. Nowhere did I say there is a pure candidate.nor do I think there is one.  I also do not believe that the candidate that has done the most good is necessarily the candidate that will win. My point is still that it’s not about who is worse or better it is about who can spin it best. After several years it is very clear that Trump has the edge on spinning the worst news in his favor and coming out on top as far as the view of the average schmo on the street that will be deciding the election.  Another point we agree on is that if Trump gets another term the country gets what it deserves.
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