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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,030
    Completely disagree.  I don't know that voting efficiency should be an objective.  And I sure don't think there should be backup congressmen and senators.  Should we have a cross training initiative? Voting redundancies? 

    Btw, everyone has staff to support them full time,  even during recess. 
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,571
    pearljammr78 said:
    I totally understand that. That’s why a full month plus off does more harm than good. No one can do the job. Take a week every two months. That’s six weeks a year. Rotating schedules so people are still in Washington. Make a way for these people to vote on legislation if they are home in their district. Come on. It’s almost 2020. This isn’t 1776. Things can be easily changed to make things more efficient. It’s just the assholes that vote on it are the ones effected. 
    i actually think everyone being off at the same time period makes sense. as log jammed as things get, i think it would get worse with so many people in office on vacation when they are supposed to be working with their colleagues. 
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  • KatKat Posts: 4,911
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Kat said:
    All-ages forum....please...be careful. 
    You took down my Chrissy Tiegen tweet!
    Here...I thought you might like this one. :)



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    Kat said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Kat said:
    All-ages forum....please...be careful. 
    You took down my Chrissy Tiegen tweet!
    Here...I thought you might like this one. :)



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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,057
    edited September 2019
    12 more days of being "in session" this month and then 2 weeks off.  Then 13 "in session" days next month.  That gets us to November.

    https://www.house.gov/legislative-activity 

    They got effing work to do. 
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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,057
    We have secure phones now.  Electronic devices.  We're not traveling by locomotive.  Modernize already.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,592
    Hi! said:

    Why so forelorn looking, Donny? Incoming indictments got you down?
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,030
    ikiT said:
    We have secure phones now.  Electronic devices.  We're not traveling by locomotive.  Modernize already.
    Because there's so many bills waiting to be passed and no one to vote on them.  

    Of all the problems,  a quorum is hardly one of them. 


  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,592
    The dem house passed a shit ton of bills. Moscow Mitchy Baby won’t bring them to vote in the senate. Prior to that, while Obama was in office, the repub congress wouldn’t pass anything lest they make Obama look like he accomplished something. Vote anything but repub.
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,492
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    The dem house passed a shit ton of bills. Moscow Mitchy Baby won’t bring them to vote in the senate. Prior to that, while Obama was in office, the repub congress wouldn’t pass anything lest they make Obama look like he accomplished something. Vote anything but repub.
    Party first, country second politics drive me nuts.

    Vote out incumbents on both sides.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,294
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    pearljammr78 said:
    I totally understand that. That’s why a full month plus off does more harm than good. No one can do the job. Take a week every two months. That’s six weeks a year. Rotating schedules so people are still in Washington. Make a way for these people to vote on legislation if they are home in their district. Come on. It’s almost 2020. This isn’t 1776. Things can be easily changed to make things more efficient. It’s just the assholes that vote on it are the ones effected. 
    i actually think everyone being off at the same time period makes sense. as log jammed as things get, i think it would get worse with so many people in office on vacation when they are supposed to be working with their colleagues. 
    It is weird that it’s for such a long time. What are they, third graders? I get that they need to be in their districts and stuff. But even when they are in session it’s only a few days a week. I heard they have another week off in October. 

    Plus you also hear stories about a lot of them not even having town halls and stuff. Most of them use this time to raise money. 

    Maybe require them to work a full five day work week if they’re going to all this recess time?
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,905
    The Juggler said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    pearljammr78 said:
    I totally understand that. That’s why a full month plus off does more harm than good. No one can do the job. Take a week every two months. That’s six weeks a year. Rotating schedules so people are still in Washington. Make a way for these people to vote on legislation if they are home in their district. Come on. It’s almost 2020. This isn’t 1776. Things can be easily changed to make things more efficient. It’s just the assholes that vote on it are the ones effected. 
    i actually think everyone being off at the same time period makes sense. as log jammed as things get, i think it would get worse with so many people in office on vacation when they are supposed to be working with their colleagues. 
    It is weird that it’s for such a long time. What are they, third graders? I get that they need to be in their districts and stuff. But even when they are in session it’s only a few days a week. I heard they have another week off in October. 

    Plus you also hear stories about a lot of them not even having town halls and stuff. Most of them use this time to raise money. 

    Maybe require them to work a full five day work week if they’re going to all this recess time?
    They don't spend all that "recess time" at the beach.
    Many of them are back in their home districts working.

  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,294
    Bentleyspop said:
    The Juggler said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    pearljammr78 said:
    I totally understand that. That’s why a full month plus off does more harm than good. No one can do the job. Take a week every two months. That’s six weeks a year. Rotating schedules so people are still in Washington. Make a way for these people to vote on legislation if they are home in their district. Come on. It’s almost 2020. This isn’t 1776. Things can be easily changed to make things more efficient. It’s just the assholes that vote on it are the ones effected. 
    i actually think everyone being off at the same time period makes sense. as log jammed as things get, i think it would get worse with so many people in office on vacation when they are supposed to be working with their colleagues. 
    It is weird that it’s for such a long time. What are they, third graders? I get that they need to be in their districts and stuff. But even when they are in session it’s only a few days a week. I heard they have another week off in October. 

    Plus you also hear stories about a lot of them not even having town halls and stuff. Most of them use this time to raise money. 

    Maybe require them to work a full five day work week if they’re going to all this recess time?
    They don't spend all that "recess time" at the beach.
    Many of them are back in their home districts working.

    Clearly. I'd be interested in knowing how much time is spent fundraising verses actually working on things to benefit their constituents though. 
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,217
    https://apnews.com/bb8c30ee6b0b4d579f1a915871b1fa80

    Given the devotion that a third of the country has for him and the loss of election legitimacy, I think this guy is right.  The next president not named Trump hasn't even been born yet.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,571
    OnWis97 said:
    https://apnews.com/bb8c30ee6b0b4d579f1a915871b1fa80

    Given the devotion that a third of the country has for him and the loss of election legitimacy, I think this guy is right.  The next president not named Trump hasn't even been born yet.
    the swing back from trump will be bigger than the swing to him. the only other trump that may have some chance is ivanka. there will be no trump "dynasty", however. 
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  • KatKat Posts: 4,911

    Here's Every Military Construction Project in the U.S. Being Pushed Back to Fund Trump's Border Wall

    9.5.19





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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,057
    edited September 2019
    Hi! said:

    I like the drool at the neckline.  Or is it hair product?  Attention to detail is not a Trump strong suit.

    WTactualF
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 40,498
    BOLTON OUT!!!!!
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,905
    mickeyrat said:
    BOLTON OUT!!!!!
    Buh bye Bolton...



  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,217
    Kat said:

    Here's Every Military Construction Project in the U.S. Being Pushed Back to Fund Trump's Border Wall

    9.5.19





    The GOP (in power and voters) care more about making Trump happy than they do about their country.  That's frightening.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,571
    Bentleyspop said:
    mickeyrat said:
    BOLTON OUT!!!!!
    Buh bye Bolton...



    wow. 

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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,492
    Bentleyspop said:
    mickeyrat said:
    BOLTON OUT!!!!!
    Buh bye Bolton...



    I have heard many a person from Jello Biafra to Newt Gingrich complain about status quo in government for years.  So finally, here is someone doing it all differently and no one is happy with that either.

    Do we go to politics as usual and suck it up or do we really want change in things?

    Are we better off with Moderates running the country?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,592
    POS John Boy Bolton fired. Or did he quit?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,592
    And why would anyone with half an ounce of self respect work for Team Trump Treason?

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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,571
    edited September 2019
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    mickeyrat said:
    BOLTON OUT!!!!!
    Buh bye Bolton...



    I have heard many a person from Jello Biafra to Newt Gingrich complain about status quo in government for years.  So finally, here is someone doing it all differently and no one is happy with that either.

    Do we go to politics as usual and suck it up or do we really want change in things?

    Are we better off with Moderates running the country?
    it's because he keeps hiring "all the best people" and the majority of the time it ends up in him firing them or them quitting, mainly because it seems they don't tow the trump line. it's laughable. 
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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,057
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    mickeyrat said:
    BOLTON OUT!!!!!
    Buh bye Bolton...



    I have heard many a person from Jello Biafra to Newt Gingrich complain about status quo in government for years.  So finally, here is someone doing it all differently and no one is happy with that either.

    Do we go to politics as usual and suck it up or do we really want change in things?

    Are we better off with Moderates running the country?
    Reasonable adults in real life and in politics is what I prefer.  Spare me the fascist overlord. 

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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,057
    OnWis97 said:
    https://apnews.com/bb8c30ee6b0b4d579f1a915871b1fa80

    Given the devotion that a third of the country has for him and the loss of election legitimacy, I think this guy is right.  The next president not named Trump hasn't even been born yet.
    I don't know if that's the word...
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,592
    Team Trump Treason doesn’t fire anyone, c’mon. He ain’t got sack yo.
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