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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 6,564
    Where are the supporters to defend him on here?


  • LizardLizard So CalPosts: 11,931
    ikiT said:
    I have heard many a person from Jello Biafra to Newt Gingrich complain about status quo in government for years.  So finally, here is someone doing it all differently and no one is happy with that either.

    Do we go to politics as usual and suck it up or do we really want change in things?

    Are we better off with Moderates running the country?
    Reasonable adults in real life and in politics is what I prefer.  Spare me the fascist overlord. 

    Yo He's not even trying to hide that boner he has for Vladdie, Viktor Orban, MBS and KJI. 
    Well...the tie kind of covers it.
    from what I have heard --would not take much to hide it 
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  • Anyone get the opinion of the ranking repub and chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee regarding Team Trump Treason’s foreign policy and national security capabilities? Anyone? Better hope there’s no “incidences” or “accidents.”
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 34,549
    Seems as if Mr. Bolton has some things to get off his chest........

    Tell us, Johnny!
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 13,771
    I have heard many a person from Jello Biafra to Newt Gingrich complain about status quo in government for years.  So finally, here is someone doing it all differently and no one is happy with that either.

    Do we go to politics as usual and suck it up or do we really want change in things?

    Are we better off with Moderates running the country?
    Yes moderates.. you're goddamm right. 
  • cutzcutz Posts: 8,276
    https://nypost.com/2019/09/10/trump-license-plate-rejected-in-sweden-for-being-offensive/

    ‘Trump’ license plate rejected in Sweden for being offensive


    Talk about drunk texting.

    A Swedish man’s application for a vanity license plate reading “TRUMP” has been denied.

    Marcus Saaf told the Aftonbladet newspaper that he recently purchased a new American SUV (model unspecified) and “was drunk and thought it was fun to apply” for the custom registration, but was denied.

    Swedish Transport agency rules explicitly prohibit political messages, along with other potentially “offensive” terms on license plates.

    “In retrospect, I understand that it can be perceived as such. I will keep the registration plate I have,”
  • Where are the supporters to defend him on here?


    Waiting for Hillary to be indicted and the gubmint to come and take their guns. Or at Area 51.
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  • ikiTikiT USAPosts: 7,575
    Trumpito don't care for the blacks yo.  He isn't trying to hide it.

    When he's running his mouth like a goddamned lunatic out on the lawn and he holds his hand up and gets LOUDER to stop any and all interruptions by whoever just asked him something?  Like he actually believes he's the only person in history who ever had a valid point to express? 
    I don't like anything about this guy but that's the thing about him that I hate the most. 

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 34,549
    edited September 10
    Approval numbers continue their downward slide...
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 34,549

    Beyond the topline of Trump's approval rating, CNN also asked how strongly Americans approved or disapproved of Trump's job performance. The percentage who moderately approve (11%) is similar to the percentage who moderately disapprove (10%).

    The real nugget is that the 45% who strongly disapprove is significantly higher than the 28% who strongly approve. That 17-point gap is wider than the 7-point gap we found in April of this year.

    What's so interesting about that is some form of enthusiasm gap on approval exists across age, gender, race and even education levels.

    Now, it's not unusual for there to be an enthusiasm gap in which more people strongly disapprove than strongly approve of a president. We saw it with George W. Bush and Barack Obama at roughly this point in their presidencies.

    The difference is that Trump's is much larger. Obama's strongly disapprove rating in CNN polling was never more than 10 points higher than his strongly approve rating through his first three years in office. The same held true with Bush.

    Coming into 2020, it's easy to imagine that Trump may lack the enthusiastic supporters he will likely need to overcome what looks to be an unpopular standing overall.

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  • Let’s see how Mr Douche Bag makes the 9/11 remembrance about how great he is and how he is just picked on. Oh and let’s see if we get a shout out to himself for being at ground zero. Fuck you Mr. Chump. 
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  • Beyond the topline of Trump's approval rating, CNN also asked how strongly Americans approved or disapproved of Trump's job performance. The percentage who moderately approve (11%) is similar to the percentage who moderately disapprove (10%).

    The real nugget is that the 45% who strongly disapprove is significantly higher than the 28% who strongly approve. That 17-point gap is wider than the 7-point gap we found in April of this year.

    What's so interesting about that is some form of enthusiasm gap on approval exists across age, gender, race and even education levels.

    Now, it's not unusual for there to be an enthusiasm gap in which more people strongly disapprove than strongly approve of a president. We saw it with George W. Bush and Barack Obama at roughly this point in their presidencies.

    The difference is that Trump's is much larger. Obama's strongly disapprove rating in CNN polling was never more than 10 points higher than his strongly approve rating through his first three years in office. The same held true with Bush.

    Coming into 2020, it's easy to imagine that Trump may lack the enthusiastic supporters he will likely need to overcome what looks to be an unpopular standing overall.

    So let me tell you how the other half looks at polls.

    Remember that FOX poll that stated the 37% or whatever said he was "tearing the country apart"?

    I posted that and none of my rep friends could find it and thought I was lying.

    I told them how to find it and still called me a fibber.

    Posted direct link to that very question and it's findings and question the "amount of people whom actually were polled on that question".

    Polls don't matter to them.  It is just mind blowing.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 13,771

    Beyond the topline of Trump's approval rating, CNN also asked how strongly Americans approved or disapproved of Trump's job performance. The percentage who moderately approve (11%) is similar to the percentage who moderately disapprove (10%).

    The real nugget is that the 45% who strongly disapprove is significantly higher than the 28% who strongly approve. That 17-point gap is wider than the 7-point gap we found in April of this year.

    What's so interesting about that is some form of enthusiasm gap on approval exists across age, gender, race and even education levels.

    Now, it's not unusual for there to be an enthusiasm gap in which more people strongly disapprove than strongly approve of a president. We saw it with George W. Bush and Barack Obama at roughly this point in their presidencies.

    The difference is that Trump's is much larger. Obama's strongly disapprove rating in CNN polling was never more than 10 points higher than his strongly approve rating through his first three years in office. The same held true with Bush.

    Coming into 2020, it's easy to imagine that Trump may lack the enthusiastic supporters he will likely need to overcome what looks to be an unpopular standing overall.

    So let me tell you how the other half looks at polls.

    Remember that FOX poll that stated the 37% or whatever said he was "tearing the country apart"?

    I posted that and none of my rep friends could find it and thought I was lying.

    I told them how to find it and still called me a fibber.

    Posted direct link to that very question and it's findings and question the "amount of people whom actually were polled on that question".

    Polls don't matter to them.  It is just mind blowing.
    Your republican friends aren't very familiar with statistics, are they?  "Well, they didn't ask me"....
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon In My PlacePosts: 18,897

    Beyond the topline of Trump's approval rating, CNN also asked how strongly Americans approved or disapproved of Trump's job performance. The percentage who moderately approve (11%) is similar to the percentage who moderately disapprove (10%).

    The real nugget is that the 45% who strongly disapprove is significantly higher than the 28% who strongly approve. That 17-point gap is wider than the 7-point gap we found in April of this year.

    What's so interesting about that is some form of enthusiasm gap on approval exists across age, gender, race and even education levels.

    Now, it's not unusual for there to be an enthusiasm gap in which more people strongly disapprove than strongly approve of a president. We saw it with George W. Bush and Barack Obama at roughly this point in their presidencies.

    The difference is that Trump's is much larger. Obama's strongly disapprove rating in CNN polling was never more than 10 points higher than his strongly approve rating through his first three years in office. The same held true with Bush.

    Coming into 2020, it's easy to imagine that Trump may lack the enthusiastic supporters he will likely need to overcome what looks to be an unpopular standing overall.

    So let me tell you how the other half looks at polls.

    Remember that FOX poll that stated the 37% or whatever said he was "tearing the country apart"?

    I posted that and none of my rep friends could find it and thought I was lying.

    I told them how to find it and still called me a fibber.

    Posted direct link to that very question and it's findings and question the "amount of people whom actually were polled on that question".

    Polls don't matter to them.  It is just mind blowing.
    all polls had Hillary winning by a landslide. this is why trumpsters don't believe polls anymore. regardless of the fact that the 2016 polls were only off in a few keys areas, which led to him winning. they don't understand that or choose to ignore it. 
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  • mrussel1 said:

    Beyond the topline of Trump's approval rating, CNN also asked how strongly Americans approved or disapproved of Trump's job performance. The percentage who moderately approve (11%) is similar to the percentage who moderately disapprove (10%).

    The real nugget is that the 45% who strongly disapprove is significantly higher than the 28% who strongly approve. That 17-point gap is wider than the 7-point gap we found in April of this year.

    What's so interesting about that is some form of enthusiasm gap on approval exists across age, gender, race and even education levels.

    Now, it's not unusual for there to be an enthusiasm gap in which more people strongly disapprove than strongly approve of a president. We saw it with George W. Bush and Barack Obama at roughly this point in their presidencies.

    The difference is that Trump's is much larger. Obama's strongly disapprove rating in CNN polling was never more than 10 points higher than his strongly approve rating through his first three years in office. The same held true with Bush.

    Coming into 2020, it's easy to imagine that Trump may lack the enthusiastic supporters he will likely need to overcome what looks to be an unpopular standing overall.

    So let me tell you how the other half looks at polls.

    Remember that FOX poll that stated the 37% or whatever said he was "tearing the country apart"?

    I posted that and none of my rep friends could find it and thought I was lying.

    I told them how to find it and still called me a fibber.

    Posted direct link to that very question and it's findings and question the "amount of people whom actually were polled on that question".

    Polls don't matter to them.  It is just mind blowing.
    Your republican friends aren't very familiar with statistics, are they?  "Well, they didn't ask me"....

    Beyond the topline of Trump's approval rating, CNN also asked how strongly Americans approved or disapproved of Trump's job performance. The percentage who moderately approve (11%) is similar to the percentage who moderately disapprove (10%).

    The real nugget is that the 45% who strongly disapprove is significantly higher than the 28% who strongly approve. That 17-point gap is wider than the 7-point gap we found in April of this year.

    What's so interesting about that is some form of enthusiasm gap on approval exists across age, gender, race and even education levels.

    Now, it's not unusual for there to be an enthusiasm gap in which more people strongly disapprove than strongly approve of a president. We saw it with George W. Bush and Barack Obama at roughly this point in their presidencies.

    The difference is that Trump's is much larger. Obama's strongly disapprove rating in CNN polling was never more than 10 points higher than his strongly approve rating through his first three years in office. The same held true with Bush.

    Coming into 2020, it's easy to imagine that Trump may lack the enthusiastic supporters he will likely need to overcome what looks to be an unpopular standing overall.

    So let me tell you how the other half looks at polls.

    Remember that FOX poll that stated the 37% or whatever said he was "tearing the country apart"?

    I posted that and none of my rep friends could find it and thought I was lying.

    I told them how to find it and still called me a fibber.

    Posted direct link to that very question and it's findings and question the "amount of people whom actually were polled on that question".

    Polls don't matter to them.  It is just mind blowing.
    all polls had Hillary winning by a landslide. this is why trumpsters don't believe polls anymore. regardless of the fact that the 2016 polls were only off in a few keys areas, which led to him winning. they don't understand that or choose to ignore it. 
    Agreed w the both of you.

    I gave up and flat out said " No matter how many times I answer your questions you will find another thing to question rather than find it for yourself, you'll then give me some reason as to why you don't believe it, so why bother?"

    I wasn't even trying to stir up shit, it came up in conversation(online) so i posted.  I figured a FOX poll would be suffice but nope.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 13,771

    Beyond the topline of Trump's approval rating, CNN also asked how strongly Americans approved or disapproved of Trump's job performance. The percentage who moderately approve (11%) is similar to the percentage who moderately disapprove (10%).

    The real nugget is that the 45% who strongly disapprove is significantly higher than the 28% who strongly approve. That 17-point gap is wider than the 7-point gap we found in April of this year.

    What's so interesting about that is some form of enthusiasm gap on approval exists across age, gender, race and even education levels.

    Now, it's not unusual for there to be an enthusiasm gap in which more people strongly disapprove than strongly approve of a president. We saw it with George W. Bush and Barack Obama at roughly this point in their presidencies.

    The difference is that Trump's is much larger. Obama's strongly disapprove rating in CNN polling was never more than 10 points higher than his strongly approve rating through his first three years in office. The same held true with Bush.

    Coming into 2020, it's easy to imagine that Trump may lack the enthusiastic supporters he will likely need to overcome what looks to be an unpopular standing overall.

    So let me tell you how the other half looks at polls.

    Remember that FOX poll that stated the 37% or whatever said he was "tearing the country apart"?

    I posted that and none of my rep friends could find it and thought I was lying.

    I told them how to find it and still called me a fibber.

    Posted direct link to that very question and it's findings and question the "amount of people whom actually were polled on that question".

    Polls don't matter to them.  It is just mind blowing.
    all polls had Hillary winning by a landslide. this is why trumpsters don't believe polls anymore. regardless of the fact that the 2016 polls were only off in a few keys areas, which led to him winning. they don't understand that or choose to ignore it. 
    No they didn't.  The average of all polls was HRC +2.1, which was quite close to the result and within the MOE.  The polls were remarkably accurate.  The difference is that these are national polls, so they don't achieve statistical significance at the state level.  
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon In My PlacePosts: 18,897
    mrussel1 said:

    Beyond the topline of Trump's approval rating, CNN also asked how strongly Americans approved or disapproved of Trump's job performance. The percentage who moderately approve (11%) is similar to the percentage who moderately disapprove (10%).

    The real nugget is that the 45% who strongly disapprove is significantly higher than the 28% who strongly approve. That 17-point gap is wider than the 7-point gap we found in April of this year.

    What's so interesting about that is some form of enthusiasm gap on approval exists across age, gender, race and even education levels.

    Now, it's not unusual for there to be an enthusiasm gap in which more people strongly disapprove than strongly approve of a president. We saw it with George W. Bush and Barack Obama at roughly this point in their presidencies.

    The difference is that Trump's is much larger. Obama's strongly disapprove rating in CNN polling was never more than 10 points higher than his strongly approve rating through his first three years in office. The same held true with Bush.

    Coming into 2020, it's easy to imagine that Trump may lack the enthusiastic supporters he will likely need to overcome what looks to be an unpopular standing overall.

    So let me tell you how the other half looks at polls.

    Remember that FOX poll that stated the 37% or whatever said he was "tearing the country apart"?

    I posted that and none of my rep friends could find it and thought I was lying.

    I told them how to find it and still called me a fibber.

    Posted direct link to that very question and it's findings and question the "amount of people whom actually were polled on that question".

    Polls don't matter to them.  It is just mind blowing.
    all polls had Hillary winning by a landslide. this is why trumpsters don't believe polls anymore. regardless of the fact that the 2016 polls were only off in a few keys areas, which led to him winning. they don't understand that or choose to ignore it. 
    No they didn't.  The average of all polls was HRC +2.1, which was quite close to the result and within the MOE.  The polls were remarkably accurate.  The difference is that these are national polls, so they don't achieve statistical significance at the state level.  
    sorry, not a landslide, wrong wording, but a 92% chance of winning. from what I recall of watching that night. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 13,771
    mrussel1 said:

    Beyond the topline of Trump's approval rating, CNN also asked how strongly Americans approved or disapproved of Trump's job performance. The percentage who moderately approve (11%) is similar to the percentage who moderately disapprove (10%).

    The real nugget is that the 45% who strongly disapprove is significantly higher than the 28% who strongly approve. That 17-point gap is wider than the 7-point gap we found in April of this year.

    What's so interesting about that is some form of enthusiasm gap on approval exists across age, gender, race and even education levels.

    Now, it's not unusual for there to be an enthusiasm gap in which more people strongly disapprove than strongly approve of a president. We saw it with George W. Bush and Barack Obama at roughly this point in their presidencies.

    The difference is that Trump's is much larger. Obama's strongly disapprove rating in CNN polling was never more than 10 points higher than his strongly approve rating through his first three years in office. The same held true with Bush.

    Coming into 2020, it's easy to imagine that Trump may lack the enthusiastic supporters he will likely need to overcome what looks to be an unpopular standing overall.

    So let me tell you how the other half looks at polls.

    Remember that FOX poll that stated the 37% or whatever said he was "tearing the country apart"?

    I posted that and none of my rep friends could find it and thought I was lying.

    I told them how to find it and still called me a fibber.

    Posted direct link to that very question and it's findings and question the "amount of people whom actually were polled on that question".

    Polls don't matter to them.  It is just mind blowing.
    all polls had Hillary winning by a landslide. this is why trumpsters don't believe polls anymore. regardless of the fact that the 2016 polls were only off in a few keys areas, which led to him winning. they don't understand that or choose to ignore it. 
    No they didn't.  The average of all polls was HRC +2.1, which was quite close to the result and within the MOE.  The polls were remarkably accurate.  The difference is that these are national polls, so they don't achieve statistical significance at the state level.  
    sorry, not a landslide, wrong wording, but a 92% chance of winning. from what I recall of watching that night. 
    Yes, the "inside straight" argument.  And it was true.  He won Michigan and PA by less than a percent each.  Those flip, and the election flips.  The problem is not the polls and the stats, the problem is the conclusions drawn by media analysts, disregarding the margins of error.  
  • LizardLizard So CalPosts: 11,931
    Let’s see how Mr Douche Bag makes the 9/11 remembrance about how great he is and how he is just picked on. Oh and let’s see if we get a shout out to himself for being at ground zero. Fuck you Mr. Chump. 
    Yep...didn't disappoint.  Cringeworthy--i could only take 5 min.
    Is it over yet? #ITMFA
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 34,549
    edited September 11

    Beyond the topline of Trump's approval rating, CNN also asked how strongly Americans approved or disapproved of Trump's job performance. The percentage who moderately approve (11%) is similar to the percentage who moderately disapprove (10%).

    The real nugget is that the 45% who strongly disapprove is significantly higher than the 28% who strongly approve. That 17-point gap is wider than the 7-point gap we found in April of this year.

    What's so interesting about that is some form of enthusiasm gap on approval exists across age, gender, race and even education levels.

    Now, it's not unusual for there to be an enthusiasm gap in which more people strongly disapprove than strongly approve of a president. We saw it with George W. Bush and Barack Obama at roughly this point in their presidencies.

    The difference is that Trump's is much larger. Obama's strongly disapprove rating in CNN polling was never more than 10 points higher than his strongly approve rating through his first three years in office. The same held true with Bush.

    Coming into 2020, it's easy to imagine that Trump may lack the enthusiastic supporters he will likely need to overcome what looks to be an unpopular standing overall.

    So let me tell you how the other half looks at polls.

    Remember that FOX poll that stated the 37% or whatever said he was "tearing the country apart"?

    I posted that and none of my rep friends could find it and thought I was lying.

    I told them how to find it and still called me a fibber.

    Posted direct link to that very question and it's findings and question the "amount of people whom actually were polled on that question".

    Polls don't matter to them.  It is just mind blowing.
    What does it matter if they don't believe them? If they support Trump they would believe the sky is green if Trump said so. 

    Approval polls are a snapshot of what the country is thinking at the moment. Right now his minimal support is dropping right before an election year....


    Edit--plus that was a Fox News poll. If a republican Trump supporter doesn't believe a Fox poll, they're kind of a lost cause anyway.
    Post edited by The Juggler on
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 34,549
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:

    Beyond the topline of Trump's approval rating, CNN also asked how strongly Americans approved or disapproved of Trump's job performance. The percentage who moderately approve (11%) is similar to the percentage who moderately disapprove (10%).

    The real nugget is that the 45% who strongly disapprove is significantly higher than the 28% who strongly approve. That 17-point gap is wider than the 7-point gap we found in April of this year.

    What's so interesting about that is some form of enthusiasm gap on approval exists across age, gender, race and even education levels.

    Now, it's not unusual for there to be an enthusiasm gap in which more people strongly disapprove than strongly approve of a president. We saw it with George W. Bush and Barack Obama at roughly this point in their presidencies.

    The difference is that Trump's is much larger. Obama's strongly disapprove rating in CNN polling was never more than 10 points higher than his strongly approve rating through his first three years in office. The same held true with Bush.

    Coming into 2020, it's easy to imagine that Trump may lack the enthusiastic supporters he will likely need to overcome what looks to be an unpopular standing overall.

    So let me tell you how the other half looks at polls.

    Remember that FOX poll that stated the 37% or whatever said he was "tearing the country apart"?

    I posted that and none of my rep friends could find it and thought I was lying.

    I told them how to find it and still called me a fibber.

    Posted direct link to that very question and it's findings and question the "amount of people whom actually were polled on that question".

    Polls don't matter to them.  It is just mind blowing.
    all polls had Hillary winning by a landslide. this is why trumpsters don't believe polls anymore. regardless of the fact that the 2016 polls were only off in a few keys areas, which led to him winning. they don't understand that or choose to ignore it. 
    No they didn't.  The average of all polls was HRC +2.1, which was quite close to the result and within the MOE.  The polls were remarkably accurate.  The difference is that these are national polls, so they don't achieve statistical significance at the state level.  
    sorry, not a landslide, wrong wording, but a 92% chance of winning. from what I recall of watching that night. 
    Yes, the "inside straight" argument.  And it was true.  He won Michigan and PA by less than a percent each.  Those flip, and the election flips.  The problem is not the polls and the stats, the problem is the conclusions drawn by media analysts, disregarding the margins of error.  
    I think it is incredible that people still do not understand this 3 years later. 
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  • mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:

    Beyond the topline of Trump's approval rating, CNN also asked how strongly Americans approved or disapproved of Trump's job performance. The percentage who moderately approve (11%) is similar to the percentage who moderately disapprove (10%).

    The real nugget is that the 45% who strongly disapprove is significantly higher than the 28% who strongly approve. That 17-point gap is wider than the 7-point gap we found in April of this year.

    What's so interesting about that is some form of enthusiasm gap on approval exists across age, gender, race and even education levels.

    Now, it's not unusual for there to be an enthusiasm gap in which more people strongly disapprove than strongly approve of a president. We saw it with George W. Bush and Barack Obama at roughly this point in their presidencies.

    The difference is that Trump's is much larger. Obama's strongly disapprove rating in CNN polling was never more than 10 points higher than his strongly approve rating through his first three years in office. The same held true with Bush.

    Coming into 2020, it's easy to imagine that Trump may lack the enthusiastic supporters he will likely need to overcome what looks to be an unpopular standing overall.

    So let me tell you how the other half looks at polls.

    Remember that FOX poll that stated the 37% or whatever said he was "tearing the country apart"?

    I posted that and none of my rep friends could find it and thought I was lying.

    I told them how to find it and still called me a fibber.

    Posted direct link to that very question and it's findings and question the "amount of people whom actually were polled on that question".

    Polls don't matter to them.  It is just mind blowing.
    all polls had Hillary winning by a landslide. this is why trumpsters don't believe polls anymore. regardless of the fact that the 2016 polls were only off in a few keys areas, which led to him winning. they don't understand that or choose to ignore it. 
    No they didn't.  The average of all polls was HRC +2.1, which was quite close to the result and within the MOE.  The polls were remarkably accurate.  The difference is that these are national polls, so they don't achieve statistical significance at the state level.  
    sorry, not a landslide, wrong wording, but a 92% chance of winning. from what I recall of watching that night. 
    Yes, the "inside straight" argument.  And it was true.  He won Michigan and PA by less than a percent each.  Those flip, and the election flips.  The problem is not the polls and the stats, the problem is the conclusions drawn by media analysts, disregarding the margins of error.  
    I think it is incredible that people still do not understand this 3 years later. 
    I mentioned that I had not seen 1 single poll with Clinton ahead by much.  55/45 yes but no landslide?
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 34,549
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:

    Beyond the topline of Trump's approval rating, CNN also asked how strongly Americans approved or disapproved of Trump's job performance. The percentage who moderately approve (11%) is similar to the percentage who moderately disapprove (10%).

    The real nugget is that the 45% who strongly disapprove is significantly higher than the 28% who strongly approve. That 17-point gap is wider than the 7-point gap we found in April of this year.

    What's so interesting about that is some form of enthusiasm gap on approval exists across age, gender, race and even education levels.

    Now, it's not unusual for there to be an enthusiasm gap in which more people strongly disapprove than strongly approve of a president. We saw it with George W. Bush and Barack Obama at roughly this point in their presidencies.

    The difference is that Trump's is much larger. Obama's strongly disapprove rating in CNN polling was never more than 10 points higher than his strongly approve rating through his first three years in office. The same held true with Bush.

    Coming into 2020, it's easy to imagine that Trump may lack the enthusiastic supporters he will likely need to overcome what looks to be an unpopular standing overall.

    So let me tell you how the other half looks at polls.

    Remember that FOX poll that stated the 37% or whatever said he was "tearing the country apart"?

    I posted that and none of my rep friends could find it and thought I was lying.

    I told them how to find it and still called me a fibber.

    Posted direct link to that very question and it's findings and question the "amount of people whom actually were polled on that question".

    Polls don't matter to them.  It is just mind blowing.
    all polls had Hillary winning by a landslide. this is why trumpsters don't believe polls anymore. regardless of the fact that the 2016 polls were only off in a few keys areas, which led to him winning. they don't understand that or choose to ignore it. 
    No they didn't.  The average of all polls was HRC +2.1, which was quite close to the result and within the MOE.  The polls were remarkably accurate.  The difference is that these are national polls, so they don't achieve statistical significance at the state level.  
    sorry, not a landslide, wrong wording, but a 92% chance of winning. from what I recall of watching that night. 
    Yes, the "inside straight" argument.  And it was true.  He won Michigan and PA by less than a percent each.  Those flip, and the election flips.  The problem is not the polls and the stats, the problem is the conclusions drawn by media analysts, disregarding the margins of error.  
    I think it is incredible that people still do not understand this 3 years later. 
    I mentioned that I had not seen 1 single poll with Clinton ahead by much.  55/45 yes but no landslide?
    Most polls leading up to Election Day correctly had her up by a few percentage points. 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 8,703
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:

    Beyond the topline of Trump's approval rating, CNN also asked how strongly Americans approved or disapproved of Trump's job performance. The percentage who moderately approve (11%) is similar to the percentage who moderately disapprove (10%).

    The real nugget is that the 45% who strongly disapprove is significantly higher than the 28% who strongly approve. That 17-point gap is wider than the 7-point gap we found in April of this year.

    What's so interesting about that is some form of enthusiasm gap on approval exists across age, gender, race and even education levels.

    Now, it's not unusual for there to be an enthusiasm gap in which more people strongly disapprove than strongly approve of a president. We saw it with George W. Bush and Barack Obama at roughly this point in their presidencies.

    The difference is that Trump's is much larger. Obama's strongly disapprove rating in CNN polling was never more than 10 points higher than his strongly approve rating through his first three years in office. The same held true with Bush.

    Coming into 2020, it's easy to imagine that Trump may lack the enthusiastic supporters he will likely need to overcome what looks to be an unpopular standing overall.

    So let me tell you how the other half looks at polls.

    Remember that FOX poll that stated the 37% or whatever said he was "tearing the country apart"?

    I posted that and none of my rep friends could find it and thought I was lying.

    I told them how to find it and still called me a fibber.

    Posted direct link to that very question and it's findings and question the "amount of people whom actually were polled on that question".

    Polls don't matter to them.  It is just mind blowing.
    all polls had Hillary winning by a landslide. this is why trumpsters don't believe polls anymore. regardless of the fact that the 2016 polls were only off in a few keys areas, which led to him winning. they don't understand that or choose to ignore it. 
    No they didn't.  The average of all polls was HRC +2.1, which was quite close to the result and within the MOE.  The polls were remarkably accurate.  The difference is that these are national polls, so they don't achieve statistical significance at the state level.  
    sorry, not a landslide, wrong wording, but a 92% chance of winning. from what I recall of watching that night. 
    Yes, the "inside straight" argument.  And it was true.  He won Michigan and PA by less than a percent each.  Those flip, and the election flips.  The problem is not the polls and the stats, the problem is the conclusions drawn by media analysts, disregarding the margins of error.  
    I think it is incredible that people still do not understand this 3 years later. 
    I mentioned that I had not seen 1 single poll with Clinton ahead by much.  55/45 yes but no landslide?
    Most polls leading up to Election Day correctly had her up by a few percentage points. 
    correct....they had her by 3% nationally and she ended up at 2.1%

    The only outliers were MI, PA and WI where tRump won by a combined 77,000 votes.  That's what got him elected.
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  • mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:

    Beyond the topline of Trump's approval rating, CNN also asked how strongly Americans approved or disapproved of Trump's job performance. The percentage who moderately approve (11%) is similar to the percentage who moderately disapprove (10%).

    The real nugget is that the 45% who strongly disapprove is significantly higher than the 28% who strongly approve. That 17-point gap is wider than the 7-point gap we found in April of this year.

    What's so interesting about that is some form of enthusiasm gap on approval exists across age, gender, race and even education levels.

    Now, it's not unusual for there to be an enthusiasm gap in which more people strongly disapprove than strongly approve of a president. We saw it with George W. Bush and Barack Obama at roughly this point in their presidencies.

    The difference is that Trump's is much larger. Obama's strongly disapprove rating in CNN polling was never more than 10 points higher than his strongly approve rating through his first three years in office. The same held true with Bush.

    Coming into 2020, it's easy to imagine that Trump may lack the enthusiastic supporters he will likely need to overcome what looks to be an unpopular standing overall.

    So let me tell you how the other half looks at polls.

    Remember that FOX poll that stated the 37% or whatever said he was "tearing the country apart"?

    I posted that and none of my rep friends could find it and thought I was lying.

    I told them how to find it and still called me a fibber.

    Posted direct link to that very question and it's findings and question the "amount of people whom actually were polled on that question".

    Polls don't matter to them.  It is just mind blowing.
    all polls had Hillary winning by a landslide. this is why trumpsters don't believe polls anymore. regardless of the fact that the 2016 polls were only off in a few keys areas, which led to him winning. they don't understand that or choose to ignore it. 
    No they didn't.  The average of all polls was HRC +2.1, which was quite close to the result and within the MOE.  The polls were remarkably accurate.  The difference is that these are national polls, so they don't achieve statistical significance at the state level.  
    sorry, not a landslide, wrong wording, but a 92% chance of winning. from what I recall of watching that night. 
    Yes, the "inside straight" argument.  And it was true.  He won Michigan and PA by less than a percent each.  Those flip, and the election flips.  The problem is not the polls and the stats, the problem is the conclusions drawn by media analysts, disregarding the margins of error.  
    I think it is incredible that people still do not understand this 3 years later. 
    I mentioned that I had not seen 1 single poll with Clinton ahead by much.  55/45 yes but no landslide?
    Most polls leading up to Election Day correctly had her up by a few percentage points. 
    correct....they had her by 3% nationally and she ended up at 2.1%

    The only outliers were MI, PA and WI where tRump won by a combined 77,000 votes.  That's what got him elected.
    That and Putin on the ritz’s social media campaign that Team Trump Treason’s campaign knew about and “colluded” with.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 8,703
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:

    Beyond the topline of Trump's approval rating, CNN also asked how strongly Americans approved or disapproved of Trump's job performance. The percentage who moderately approve (11%) is similar to the percentage who moderately disapprove (10%).

    The real nugget is that the 45% who strongly disapprove is significantly higher than the 28% who strongly approve. That 17-point gap is wider than the 7-point gap we found in April of this year.

    What's so interesting about that is some form of enthusiasm gap on approval exists across age, gender, race and even education levels.

    Now, it's not unusual for there to be an enthusiasm gap in which more people strongly disapprove than strongly approve of a president. We saw it with George W. Bush and Barack Obama at roughly this point in their presidencies.

    The difference is that Trump's is much larger. Obama's strongly disapprove rating in CNN polling was never more than 10 points higher than his strongly approve rating through his first three years in office. The same held true with Bush.

    Coming into 2020, it's easy to imagine that Trump may lack the enthusiastic supporters he will likely need to overcome what looks to be an unpopular standing overall.

    So let me tell you how the other half looks at polls.

    Remember that FOX poll that stated the 37% or whatever said he was "tearing the country apart"?

    I posted that and none of my rep friends could find it and thought I was lying.

    I told them how to find it and still called me a fibber.

    Posted direct link to that very question and it's findings and question the "amount of people whom actually were polled on that question".

    Polls don't matter to them.  It is just mind blowing.
    all polls had Hillary winning by a landslide. this is why trumpsters don't believe polls anymore. regardless of the fact that the 2016 polls were only off in a few keys areas, which led to him winning. they don't understand that or choose to ignore it. 
    No they didn't.  The average of all polls was HRC +2.1, which was quite close to the result and within the MOE.  The polls were remarkably accurate.  The difference is that these are national polls, so they don't achieve statistical significance at the state level.  
    sorry, not a landslide, wrong wording, but a 92% chance of winning. from what I recall of watching that night. 
    Yes, the "inside straight" argument.  And it was true.  He won Michigan and PA by less than a percent each.  Those flip, and the election flips.  The problem is not the polls and the stats, the problem is the conclusions drawn by media analysts, disregarding the margins of error.  
    I think it is incredible that people still do not understand this 3 years later. 
    I mentioned that I had not seen 1 single poll with Clinton ahead by much.  55/45 yes but no landslide?
    Most polls leading up to Election Day correctly had her up by a few percentage points. 
    correct....they had her by 3% nationally and she ended up at 2.1%

    The only outliers were MI, PA and WI where tRump won by a combined 77,000 votes.  That's what got him elected.
    That and Putin on the ritz’s social media campaign that Team Trump Treason’s campaign knew about and “colluded” with.
    and dumbfuck Comey's letter
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 6,564
    mrussel1 said:

    Beyond the topline of Trump's approval rating, CNN also asked how strongly Americans approved or disapproved of Trump's job performance. The percentage who moderately approve (11%) is similar to the percentage who moderately disapprove (10%).

    The real nugget is that the 45% who strongly disapprove is significantly higher than the 28% who strongly approve. That 17-point gap is wider than the 7-point gap we found in April of this year.

    What's so interesting about that is some form of enthusiasm gap on approval exists across age, gender, race and even education levels.

    Now, it's not unusual for there to be an enthusiasm gap in which more people strongly disapprove than strongly approve of a president. We saw it with George W. Bush and Barack Obama at roughly this point in their presidencies.

    The difference is that Trump's is much larger. Obama's strongly disapprove rating in CNN polling was never more than 10 points higher than his strongly approve rating through his first three years in office. The same held true with Bush.

    Coming into 2020, it's easy to imagine that Trump may lack the enthusiastic supporters he will likely need to overcome what looks to be an unpopular standing overall.

    So let me tell you how the other half looks at polls.

    Remember that FOX poll that stated the 37% or whatever said he was "tearing the country apart"?

    I posted that and none of my rep friends could find it and thought I was lying.

    I told them how to find it and still called me a fibber.

    Posted direct link to that very question and it's findings and question the "amount of people whom actually were polled on that question".

    Polls don't matter to them.  It is just mind blowing.
    Your republican friends aren't very familiar with statistics, are they?  "Well, they didn't ask me"....
    Everyone knows that numbers in general, and statistics  in particular,  have a liberal bias.
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