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  • ikiTikiT USAPosts: 7,266
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 1,100
    edited June 14
    PJ_Soul said:

    Trump’s company sells California mansion to firm linked to Indonesian billionaire, a business partner




    Billionaire Hary Tanoesoedibjo, founder of MNC Group, poses for a photograph in Jakarta, Indonesia, in January 2017. A company owned by Tanoesoedibjo bought the Beverly Hills mansion the Trump Organization recently sold. (Dimas Ardian/Bloomberg News)

    The Trump Organization did not respond to questions about the property, but Eric Trump, who is managing the company with Donald Trump Jr. while their father is in the White House, told the Real Deal Los Angeles website that “given my father’s presidency and our hectic schedules, our family has not had the chance to enjoy the property in recent years and it has seen minimal use. As such, it simply made sense to sell.” News of the sale was first reported by the Real Deal site.

    Trump bought the property, at 809 North Canon Drive, for $7 million in 2007, according to L.A. County land records. The county assessed the property last year at $8.3 million.

    From before he was president, Trump did not appear to use the house frequently — even when he visited Los Angeles. In those instances, he often stayed at the nearby Beverly Hills Hotel. The house did not appear to be rented out: in his financial disclosures, Trump said he never received income from it. Property taxes were $96,000 per year, L.A. County records show.

    Trump briefly owned a second house on the same block, selling that property for $10.3 million in 2008, according to public records.

    Trump still owns a golf club in nearby Rancho Palos Verdes.

    His business dealings are drawing intense scrutiny from Democratic lawmakers and government ethics experts who say there is no effective check on people who would seek influence with the White House by spending money on Trump’s real estate.

    Trump has sold other properties since entering office, including a warehouse in South Carolina, land in the Dominican Republic and condos in his Las Vegas hotel, according to his government disclosure forms and public records.

    The U.S. Constitution bars the president from receiving gifts or payments from foreign leaders. Trump is fighting two federal lawsuits that claim he is running afoul of that prohibition by accepting business from foreign dignitaries at his hotels.

    The $13.5 million sale price of the Beverly Hills mansion is likely to exacerbate ethics concerns. The property was sold off-market — meaning it was not listed for sale publicly — and Beverly Hills real estate experts said they were surprised at the high price.

    The median home value in Beverly Hills has gone up from $2.3 million in early 2007 to $3.5 million this year, a 52 percent increase, according to analysis from Zillow. Trump sold his home for 93 percent more than he paid for it in 2007.

    Trump “got a really good price,” said Luis Pezzini, the chief executive of Pezzini Luxury Homes in West Hollywood.

    “Seems a little rich, to be perfectly frank,” Pezzini said. “Unless there’s something spectacular about this [house] that I’m missing.”

    Pezzini said he had a listing nearby with a larger home and lot size — as well as a tennis court — and expected to get slightly less than the $13.5 million Trump received.

    Tanoesoedibjo’s main business is media, as his MNC Group in Indonesia owns television stations and broadband businesses, but he also has finance and natural resources companies.

    He and the Trump family know each other well, and beginning in 2015, he signed deals to partner with Trump on the two enormous projects in West Java and Bali, where he owns land.

    Tanoesoedibjo attended Trump’s inauguration, posing for photos with Eric and Lara Trump at Trump’s D.C. hotel the day after the inauguration. He has said he has considered running for president in his country, with Trump as an inspiration.



    He bought it for 7mil in 07 and sold it for 13mil 12 years later?  Oh the horror.

    The property sold without being publicly listed?  You can do that now if you wanted to.  They have web sites that can do that now.

    Homes in Beverly hills have always been expensive.  Here is some listed at well over 13 mil.


    https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Beverly-Hills_CA/sby-2


    I don't see the story here.

    So Trump knew the guy and he bought his house?  I don't get it?



    If "some" people did it, fine

    If you did it "some"times, fine.

    If "some"one other than the president did it, fine.

    But the requirements of the presidency are different. Read the effing constitution. 


     
    Post edited by Lerxst1992 on
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 1,100
    .OnWis97 said:
    Amash is disloyal.  He’s going to get primaried.  He’s done.


    The fight against retribution by primary should be a threat by the victim to run as an independent and split the party vote in the general election 
  • ikiTikiT USAPosts: 7,266
    edited June 14

    The Trump administration is holding migrant kids in a former internment camp for Japanese Americans

    The Trump administration has decided that an Army base in Oklahoma is the perfect place to hold the growing number of immigrant children it is keeping in custody, despite some incredible symbolism that would have others thinking twice. The Army base, Fort Sill, was once used as an internment camp for Japanese Americans during World War II.

    Now Fort Sill will be used “as a temporary emergency influx shelter” for about 1,400 children. They will be detained there until they can be given to an adult relative, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said, as Time reported. The Trump administration recently cut funding for English lessons, soccer games, legal aid, and other forms of entertainment and education for the children being held against their will in these camps, meaning the children will have very little to keep them occupied.


    https://www.fastcompany.com/90363152/migrant-children-held-fort-sill-japanese-american-internment-camp
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 6,388
    PJ_Soul said:

    Trump’s company sells California mansion to firm linked to Indonesian billionaire, a business partner




    Billionaire Hary Tanoesoedibjo, founder of MNC Group, poses for a photograph in Jakarta, Indonesia, in January 2017. A company owned by Tanoesoedibjo bought the Beverly Hills mansion the Trump Organization recently sold. (Dimas Ardian/Bloomberg News)

    The Trump Organization did not respond to questions about the property, but Eric Trump, who is managing the company with Donald Trump Jr. while their father is in the White House, told the Real Deal Los Angeles website that “given my father’s presidency and our hectic schedules, our family has not had the chance to enjoy the property in recent years and it has seen minimal use. As such, it simply made sense to sell.” News of the sale was first reported by the Real Deal site.

    Trump bought the property, at 809 North Canon Drive, for $7 million in 2007, according to L.A. County land records. The county assessed the property last year at $8.3 million.

    From before he was president, Trump did not appear to use the house frequently — even when he visited Los Angeles. In those instances, he often stayed at the nearby Beverly Hills Hotel. The house did not appear to be rented out: in his financial disclosures, Trump said he never received income from it. Property taxes were $96,000 per year, L.A. County records show.

    Trump briefly owned a second house on the same block, selling that property for $10.3 million in 2008, according to public records.

    Trump still owns a golf club in nearby Rancho Palos Verdes.

    His business dealings are drawing intense scrutiny from Democratic lawmakers and government ethics experts who say there is no effective check on people who would seek influence with the White House by spending money on Trump’s real estate.

    Trump has sold other properties since entering office, including a warehouse in South Carolina, land in the Dominican Republic and condos in his Las Vegas hotel, according to his government disclosure forms and public records.

    The U.S. Constitution bars the president from receiving gifts or payments from foreign leaders. Trump is fighting two federal lawsuits that claim he is running afoul of that prohibition by accepting business from foreign dignitaries at his hotels.

    The $13.5 million sale price of the Beverly Hills mansion is likely to exacerbate ethics concerns. The property was sold off-market — meaning it was not listed for sale publicly — and Beverly Hills real estate experts said they were surprised at the high price.

    The median home value in Beverly Hills has gone up from $2.3 million in early 2007 to $3.5 million this year, a 52 percent increase, according to analysis from Zillow. Trump sold his home for 93 percent more than he paid for it in 2007.

    Trump “got a really good price,” said Luis Pezzini, the chief executive of Pezzini Luxury Homes in West Hollywood.

    “Seems a little rich, to be perfectly frank,” Pezzini said. “Unless there’s something spectacular about this [house] that I’m missing.”

    Pezzini said he had a listing nearby with a larger home and lot size — as well as a tennis court — and expected to get slightly less than the $13.5 million Trump received.

    Tanoesoedibjo’s main business is media, as his MNC Group in Indonesia owns television stations and broadband businesses, but he also has finance and natural resources companies.

    He and the Trump family know each other well, and beginning in 2015, he signed deals to partner with Trump on the two enormous projects in West Java and Bali, where he owns land.

    Tanoesoedibjo attended Trump’s inauguration, posing for photos with Eric and Lara Trump at Trump’s D.C. hotel the day after the inauguration. He has said he has considered running for president in his country, with Trump as an inspiration.



    He bought it for 7mil in 07 and sold it for 13mil 12 years later?  Oh the horror.

    The property sold without being publicly listed?  You can do that now if you wanted to.  They have web sites that can do that now.

    Homes in Beverly hills have always been expensive.  Here is some listed at well over 13 mil.


    https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Beverly-Hills_CA/sby-2


    I don't see the story here.

    So Trump knew the guy and he bought his house?  I don't get it?



    If "some" people did it, fine

    If you did it "some"times, fine.

    If "some"one other than the president did it, fine.

    But the requirements of the presidency are different. Read the effing constitution. 


     
    The constitution doesn't  come in to play with the current white house
  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 1,774
    .OnWis97 said:
    Amash is disloyal.  He’s going to get primaried.  He’s done.


    The fight against retribution by primary should be a threat by the victim to run as an independent and split the party vote in the general election 
    Maybe.  But Amash is a legit conservative.  Not sure I see him actively doing something to help get a Dem elected.
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 1,100
    OnWis97 said:
    .OnWis97 said:
    Amash is disloyal.  He’s going to get primaried.  He’s done.


    The fight against retribution by primary should be a threat by the victim to run as an independent and split the party vote in the general election 
    Maybe.  But Amash is a legit conservative.  Not sure I see him actively doing something to help get a Dem elected.

    Unless he is sickened by a lawless president and a party unwilling to uphold its constitutional duty. 
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 18,882
    PJ_Soul said:

    Trump’s company sells California mansion to firm linked to Indonesian billionaire, a business partner




    Billionaire Hary Tanoesoedibjo, founder of MNC Group, poses for a photograph in Jakarta, Indonesia, in January 2017. A company owned by Tanoesoedibjo bought the Beverly Hills mansion the Trump Organization recently sold. (Dimas Ardian/Bloomberg News)

    The Trump Organization did not respond to questions about the property, but Eric Trump, who is managing the company with Donald Trump Jr. while their father is in the White House, told the Real Deal Los Angeles website that “given my father’s presidency and our hectic schedules, our family has not had the chance to enjoy the property in recent years and it has seen minimal use. As such, it simply made sense to sell.” News of the sale was first reported by the Real Deal site.

    Trump bought the property, at 809 North Canon Drive, for $7 million in 2007, according to L.A. County land records. The county assessed the property last year at $8.3 million.

    From before he was president, Trump did not appear to use the house frequently — even when he visited Los Angeles. In those instances, he often stayed at the nearby Beverly Hills Hotel. The house did not appear to be rented out: in his financial disclosures, Trump said he never received income from it. Property taxes were $96,000 per year, L.A. County records show.

    Trump briefly owned a second house on the same block, selling that property for $10.3 million in 2008, according to public records.

    Trump still owns a golf club in nearby Rancho Palos Verdes.

    His business dealings are drawing intense scrutiny from Democratic lawmakers and government ethics experts who say there is no effective check on people who would seek influence with the White House by spending money on Trump’s real estate.

    Trump has sold other properties since entering office, including a warehouse in South Carolina, land in the Dominican Republic and condos in his Las Vegas hotel, according to his government disclosure forms and public records.

    The U.S. Constitution bars the president from receiving gifts or payments from foreign leaders. Trump is fighting two federal lawsuits that claim he is running afoul of that prohibition by accepting business from foreign dignitaries at his hotels.

    The $13.5 million sale price of the Beverly Hills mansion is likely to exacerbate ethics concerns. The property was sold off-market — meaning it was not listed for sale publicly — and Beverly Hills real estate experts said they were surprised at the high price.

    The median home value in Beverly Hills has gone up from $2.3 million in early 2007 to $3.5 million this year, a 52 percent increase, according to analysis from Zillow. Trump sold his home for 93 percent more than he paid for it in 2007.

    Trump “got a really good price,” said Luis Pezzini, the chief executive of Pezzini Luxury Homes in West Hollywood.

    “Seems a little rich, to be perfectly frank,” Pezzini said. “Unless there’s something spectacular about this [house] that I’m missing.”

    Pezzini said he had a listing nearby with a larger home and lot size — as well as a tennis court — and expected to get slightly less than the $13.5 million Trump received.

    Tanoesoedibjo’s main business is media, as his MNC Group in Indonesia owns television stations and broadband businesses, but he also has finance and natural resources companies.

    He and the Trump family know each other well, and beginning in 2015, he signed deals to partner with Trump on the two enormous projects in West Java and Bali, where he owns land.

    Tanoesoedibjo attended Trump’s inauguration, posing for photos with Eric and Lara Trump at Trump’s D.C. hotel the day after the inauguration. He has said he has considered running for president in his country, with Trump as an inspiration.



    He bought it for 7mil in 07 and sold it for 13mil 12 years later?  Oh the horror.

    The property sold without being publicly listed?  You can do that now if you wanted to.  They have web sites that can do that now.

    Homes in Beverly hills have always been expensive.  Here is some listed at well over 13 mil.


    https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Beverly-Hills_CA/sby-2


    I don't see the story here.

    So Trump knew the guy and he bought his house?  I don't get it?



    If "some" people did it, fine

    If you did it "some"times, fine.

    If "some"one other than the president did it, fine.

    But the requirements of the presidency are different. Read the effing constitution. 


     
    Was it Trump or his company that sold it?

    I thought I read in the story that the Trump Organization sold it?  

    Where in the constitution does it say that a company can't sell it's property?

    This is a stretch at trying to find something that isn't.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 12,861
    PJ_Soul said:

    Trump’s company sells California mansion to firm linked to Indonesian billionaire, a business partner




    Billionaire Hary Tanoesoedibjo, founder of MNC Group, poses for a photograph in Jakarta, Indonesia, in January 2017. A company owned by Tanoesoedibjo bought the Beverly Hills mansion the Trump Organization recently sold. (Dimas Ardian/Bloomberg News)

    The Trump Organization did not respond to questions about the property, but Eric Trump, who is managing the company with Donald Trump Jr. while their father is in the White House, told the Real Deal Los Angeles website that “given my father’s presidency and our hectic schedules, our family has not had the chance to enjoy the property in recent years and it has seen minimal use. As such, it simply made sense to sell.” News of the sale was first reported by the Real Deal site.

    Trump bought the property, at 809 North Canon Drive, for $7 million in 2007, according to L.A. County land records. The county assessed the property last year at $8.3 million.

    From before he was president, Trump did not appear to use the house frequently — even when he visited Los Angeles. In those instances, he often stayed at the nearby Beverly Hills Hotel. The house did not appear to be rented out: in his financial disclosures, Trump said he never received income from it. Property taxes were $96,000 per year, L.A. County records show.

    Trump briefly owned a second house on the same block, selling that property for $10.3 million in 2008, according to public records.

    Trump still owns a golf club in nearby Rancho Palos Verdes.

    His business dealings are drawing intense scrutiny from Democratic lawmakers and government ethics experts who say there is no effective check on people who would seek influence with the White House by spending money on Trump’s real estate.

    Trump has sold other properties since entering office, including a warehouse in South Carolina, land in the Dominican Republic and condos in his Las Vegas hotel, according to his government disclosure forms and public records.

    The U.S. Constitution bars the president from receiving gifts or payments from foreign leaders. Trump is fighting two federal lawsuits that claim he is running afoul of that prohibition by accepting business from foreign dignitaries at his hotels.

    The $13.5 million sale price of the Beverly Hills mansion is likely to exacerbate ethics concerns. The property was sold off-market — meaning it was not listed for sale publicly — and Beverly Hills real estate experts said they were surprised at the high price.

    The median home value in Beverly Hills has gone up from $2.3 million in early 2007 to $3.5 million this year, a 52 percent increase, according to analysis from Zillow. Trump sold his home for 93 percent more than he paid for it in 2007.

    Trump “got a really good price,” said Luis Pezzini, the chief executive of Pezzini Luxury Homes in West Hollywood.

    “Seems a little rich, to be perfectly frank,” Pezzini said. “Unless there’s something spectacular about this [house] that I’m missing.”

    Pezzini said he had a listing nearby with a larger home and lot size — as well as a tennis court — and expected to get slightly less than the $13.5 million Trump received.

    Tanoesoedibjo’s main business is media, as his MNC Group in Indonesia owns television stations and broadband businesses, but he also has finance and natural resources companies.

    He and the Trump family know each other well, and beginning in 2015, he signed deals to partner with Trump on the two enormous projects in West Java and Bali, where he owns land.

    Tanoesoedibjo attended Trump’s inauguration, posing for photos with Eric and Lara Trump at Trump’s D.C. hotel the day after the inauguration. He has said he has considered running for president in his country, with Trump as an inspiration.



    He bought it for 7mil in 07 and sold it for 13mil 12 years later?  Oh the horror.

    The property sold without being publicly listed?  You can do that now if you wanted to.  They have web sites that can do that now.

    Homes in Beverly hills have always been expensive.  Here is some listed at well over 13 mil.


    https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Beverly-Hills_CA/sby-2


    I don't see the story here.

    So Trump knew the guy and he bought his house?  I don't get it?



    If "some" people did it, fine

    If you did it "some"times, fine.

    If "some"one other than the president did it, fine.

    But the requirements of the presidency are different. Read the effing constitution. 


     
    Was it Trump or his company that sold it?

    I thought I read in the story that the Trump Organization sold it?  

    Where in the constitution does it say that a company can't sell it's property?

    This is a stretch at trying to find something that isn't.
    I think the implication is the appearance of impropriety that a ranking member of a foreign government pays above market value for something to the organization owned in full, by the family of the president; of which the president was the CEO until the day he took office, and will become CEO again the day he leaves office.  And if anyone truly thinks that Eric Trump is running the Trump company without the hand of his father on it, then that person is a sucker.  

    I didn't read the article, but I've seen this movie before.  If my presumptions are wrong, then flay me. 
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 47,459
    edited June 14
    This aren't going so good with Trump vs Iran at the moment. Of course Trump is lying his stupid face off and/or getting everything wrong, and this is increasing tensions way too much... Obviously the religiously fanatic Iranians are far more reasonable than the President of the United States of America is (for real, and I can't believe I just typed that), so hopefully they are still willing to just blow off Trump's bullshit until he's out of office rather than take the bait. But if Trump starts ramping up further, they may have no choice but to respond for real.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 20,432
    PJ_Soul said:
    This aren't going so good with Trump vs Iran at the moment. Of course Trump is lying his stupid face off and/or getting everything wrong, and this is increasing tensions way too much... Obviously the religiously fanatic Iranians are far more reasonable than the President of the United States of America is (for real, and I can't believe I just typed that), so hopefully they are still willing to just blow off Trump's bullshit until he's out of office rather than take the bait. But if Trump starts ramping up further, they may have no choice but to respond for real.

    Why should Iran trust the US and especially after Team Trump Treason jettisoned the nuclear deal? Jared Dear Boy is "in their pocket." 
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 47,459
    edited June 14
    PJ_Soul said:
    This aren't going so good with Trump vs Iran at the moment. Of course Trump is lying his stupid face off and/or getting everything wrong, and this is increasing tensions way too much... Obviously the religiously fanatic Iranians are far more reasonable than the President of the United States of America is (for real, and I can't believe I just typed that), so hopefully they are still willing to just blow off Trump's bullshit until he's out of office rather than take the bait. But if Trump starts ramping up further, they may have no choice but to respond for real.

    Why should Iran trust the US and especially after Team Trump Treason jettisoned the nuclear deal? Jared Dear Boy is "in their pocket." 
    Nobody should trust the US. At all. Not even a little bit. I'd be more inclined to trust Russia or any rogue nation over the US right now. I'm just hoping that they are willing to sit back and wait until the insane moron is out of the White House, since dealing with the US right now is like dealing with a mental patient. That would show great restraint on Iran's part.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 20,432
    Does anyone here think Team Trump Treason will condemn this hate speech? Ahh, religion, so tolerant. What’s next? Tossing them from rooftops? Or how long before he’s found tapping his feet in an airport men’s room?

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/14/us/tennessee-preacher-cop-lgbtq/index.html
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 6,388
    Does anyone here think Team Trump Treason will condemn this hate speech? Ahh, religion, so tolerant. What’s next? Tossing them from rooftops? Or how long before he’s found tapping his feet in an airport men’s room?

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/14/us/tennessee-preacher-cop-lgbtq/index.html
    Just another so-called " christian" preaching a rhetoric based on fear, hate, ignorance, jealousy, and lies. 
    Special place reserved in hell for people like that.
    Or a job in the current white house. 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 15,044
    Does anyone here think Team Trump Treason will condemn this hate speech? Ahh, religion, so tolerant. What’s next? Tossing them from rooftops? Or how long before he’s found tapping his feet in an airport men’s room?

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/14/us/tennessee-preacher-cop-lgbtq/index.html
    Just another so-called " christian" preaching a rhetoric based on fear, hate, ignorance, jealousy, and lies. 
    Special place reserved in hell for people like that.
    Or a job in the current white house. 
    not a believer, but I dont see Christ anywhere near that douchefucks statement.
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    Concentration Camps.  You know, for the migrants.

    This guy has got to go.
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    ikiT said:
    Concentration Camps.  You know, for the migrants.

    This guy has got to go.
    The greatest country on earth, that has ever existed, doesn’t have money for ESL classes or “futbol” for migrant kids but you know, Air Force One sure would look nice if it were repainted red, white and blue in Team Trump Treason’s color scheme. And nobody bats an eye. Plus, we have Melania T. Kinda like Eva B., I guess. SUCKERS.
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    Whens the first bombing run over Tehran?  Population 8.694 million (2016).  

    Islamic Terrorists, right?
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    She and her psychiatric colleagues are breaking a key ethical guideline of the American Psychiatric Association governing offering diagnostic opinions on public figures that she hasn't directly assessed. 
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    I didn't even know there was a law against doing so.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 15,044
    She and her psychiatric colleagues are breaking a key ethical guideline of the American Psychiatric Association governing offering diagnostic opinions on public figures that she hasn't directly assessed. 
    they were asked to make an assessment based on the publically reported findings and based on the interviews combined into the obstruction portion of the mueller report.

    this might be considered forensic psychology.....
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    He is cray.
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 10,109
    mickeyrat said:
    She and her psychiatric colleagues are breaking a key ethical guideline of the American Psychiatric Association governing offering diagnostic opinions on public figures that she hasn't directly assessed. 
    they were asked to make an assessment based on the publically reported findings and based on the interviews combined into the obstruction portion of the mueller report.

    this might be considered forensic psychology.....
    Asked by whom? 

    From my reading, it looks like she convened the panel and then was asked to present their findings. 

    In any case, it still breaks the ethical guidelines. Forensic psychiatry/psychology operates under these guidelines as well. 
     
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 12,861
    mickeyrat said:
    She and her psychiatric colleagues are breaking a key ethical guideline of the American Psychiatric Association governing offering diagnostic opinions on public figures that she hasn't directly assessed. 
    they were asked to make an assessment based on the publically reported findings and based on the interviews combined into the obstruction portion of the mueller report.

    this might be considered forensic psychology.....
    Asked by whom? 

    From my reading, it looks like she convened the panel and then was asked to present their findings. 

    In any case, it still breaks the ethical guidelines. Forensic psychiatry/psychology operates under these guidelines as well. 
     
    I don't think it advances the dialogue at all, and that any professional should shy away from making such an assessment.  It's inherently uninformed.  
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 15,044
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    mickeyrat said:
    She and her psychiatric colleagues are breaking a key ethical guideline of the American Psychiatric Association governing offering diagnostic opinions on public figures that she hasn't directly assessed. 
    they were asked to make an assessment based on the publically reported findings and based on the interviews combined into the obstruction portion of the mueller report.

    this might be considered forensic psychology.....
    Asked by whom? 

    From my reading, it looks like she convened the panel and then was asked to present their findings. 

    In any case, it still breaks the ethical guidelines. Forensic psychiatry/psychology operates under these guidelines as well. 
     
    my mistake, she convened on her own to make an assessment, which IS different than a clinical diagnosis.
    Congress has since asked her/them to appear......

       
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