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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,802

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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 37,005
    "May" being an operative word. I don't think it gets handed in without furhter investigation and indictments. I'm expecting indictments tomorrow.
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,042
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    So much winning.

    From $22 an hour to $11: GM job cuts in Ohio show a hot economy is still leaving parts of America behind

    The automaker is shutting down production at its Lordstown plant, home of the Chevy Cruze — affecting 5,400 people

    By Heather Long  •  Read more »

     


    This is a problem for Trump.  Lordstown is a big plant in the Youngstown area that is heart of the blue collar Ohio.  While I don't think Ohio is in play for Democrats, it's close enough to the PA border where it affects PA citizens.  It also shows that capital will always gravitate to the lowest cost.  Factory jobs will come back when they are robotic and run by engineers , not blue collar workers. 
    I’m not sure that Ohio isn’t in play as Team Trump Treason’s approval rating is down 20 points from January to January of last year, currently at 51%. If Kasich continues to speak out and tries to primary him, tariffs continue to crush farmers and large item manufacturers or voters start paying attention to the congressional hearings, investigations and realize they’re being conned, I can see Ohio flipping. Depends on the dem nominee but I’d also like to see the strength of the “anybody but Team Trump Treason” crowd. Regardless, too far from the election to be making bets. A lot can and will happen between now and then.
    I've driven by that plant.  It's enormous.

    Johnny K. was on CNN last night and while he may appear on the surface to be anti-Don, he's still acts like an R.  can't truss it.
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,591
    Michael Cohen sues the Trump Organization https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/07/politics/michael-cohen-sues-the-trump-organization/index.html

    President Donald Trump's former lawyer and fixer, Michael Cohen, is suing the Trump Organization, saying it failed to fulfill its contractual obligations to indemnify him or pay his attorneys' fees relating to his work after he began cooperating with federal investigators.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 37,005
    Tiki said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    So much winning.

    From $22 an hour to $11: GM job cuts in Ohio show a hot economy is still leaving parts of America behind

    The automaker is shutting down production at its Lordstown plant, home of the Chevy Cruze — affecting 5,400 people

    By Heather Long  •  Read more »

     


    This is a problem for Trump.  Lordstown is a big plant in the Youngstown area that is heart of the blue collar Ohio.  While I don't think Ohio is in play for Democrats, it's close enough to the PA border where it affects PA citizens.  It also shows that capital will always gravitate to the lowest cost.  Factory jobs will come back when they are robotic and run by engineers , not blue collar workers. 
    I’m not sure that Ohio isn’t in play as Team Trump Treason’s approval rating is down 20 points from January to January of last year, currently at 51%. If Kasich continues to speak out and tries to primary him, tariffs continue to crush farmers and large item manufacturers or voters start paying attention to the congressional hearings, investigations and realize they’re being conned, I can see Ohio flipping. Depends on the dem nominee but I’d also like to see the strength of the “anybody but Team Trump Treason” crowd. Regardless, too far from the election to be making bets. A lot can and will happen between now and then.
    I've driven by that plant.  It's enormous.

    Johnny K. was on CNN last night and while he may appear on the surface to be anti-Don, he's still acts like an R.  can't truss it.
    No, I hear you but I don’t think Kasich is the type of repub to burn the constitution and shred democracy to the degree the current R brand is. I have no illusions regarding his conservative orthodoxy.
     
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 37,005
    Bentleyspop said:
    Michael Cohen sues the Trump Organization https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/07/politics/michael-cohen-sues-the-trump-organization/index.html

    President Donald Trump's former lawyer and fixer, Michael Cohen, is suing the Trump Organization, saying it failed to fulfill its contractual obligations to indemnify him or pay his attorneys' fees relating to his work after he began cooperating with federal investigators.
    Awesome. Another avenue for discovery and depositions.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,831
    Tiki said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    So much winning.

    From $22 an hour to $11: GM job cuts in Ohio show a hot economy is still leaving parts of America behind

    The automaker is shutting down production at its Lordstown plant, home of the Chevy Cruze — affecting 5,400 people

    By Heather Long  •  Read more »

     


    This is a problem for Trump.  Lordstown is a big plant in the Youngstown area that is heart of the blue collar Ohio.  While I don't think Ohio is in play for Democrats, it's close enough to the PA border where it affects PA citizens.  It also shows that capital will always gravitate to the lowest cost.  Factory jobs will come back when they are robotic and run by engineers , not blue collar workers. 
    I’m not sure that Ohio isn’t in play as Team Trump Treason’s approval rating is down 20 points from January to January of last year, currently at 51%. If Kasich continues to speak out and tries to primary him, tariffs continue to crush farmers and large item manufacturers or voters start paying attention to the congressional hearings, investigations and realize they’re being conned, I can see Ohio flipping. Depends on the dem nominee but I’d also like to see the strength of the “anybody but Team Trump Treason” crowd. Regardless, too far from the election to be making bets. A lot can and will happen between now and then.
    I've driven by that plant.  It's enormous.

    Johnny K. was on CNN last night and while he may appear on the surface to be anti-Don, he's still acts like an R.  can't truss it.
    He is a republican.  But he's pragmatic and principled.  You may not agree with those principles, but it is to be respected so long as it respects the dignity of humans and as far as I know, it does.  He is anti-Don too because he lacks morals, principles and ethics.  But don't expect him to be pro-choice, pro union, etc.  
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,802

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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,831
    CM189191 said:

    I hope this is right.. sometimes it's just an echo chamber where people are talking to each other.  
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,845
    mrussel1 said:
    CM189191 said:

    I hope this is right.. sometimes it's just an echo chamber where people are talking to each other.  
    Yeah...this shit is the boy who cried wolf.  "Big day tomorrow!"
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 37,005
    There’s no truth to the rumor that Team Trump Treason was one of the participants, although there could be.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/07/opinion/bolsonaro-tweet-carnival.html
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 37,005
    And if you haven’t read Cohen’s lawsuit against Team Trump Treason it’s hilarious. The amount of malfeasance in the past 2+ years is astonishing. No wonder folks think it’s a nothing burger, there’s so much to eat, you don’t know where to start and you’re full after one bite. I’m sure they’ll move to dismiss but me thinks the suit has merits. Just another bone headed blunder by Team Trump Treason.

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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,474
    I would like the posters who keep harping that the Muller investigations are duds to please present facts as to why they believe that ..Hf2 keeps putting great articles and info all the time at least he backs up what he’s talking about ! Thanks for that 
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,591
    josevolution said:
    I would like the posters who keep harping that the Muller investigations are duds to please present facts as to why they believe that ..Hf2 keeps putting great articles and info all the time at least he backs up what he’s talking about ! Thanks for that 
    I believe it is often referred to as "trolling".
    An homage to the troll-in-chief 
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,474
    Bentleyspop said:
    josevolution said:
    I would like the posters who keep harping that the Muller investigations are duds to please present facts as to why they believe that ..Hf2 keeps putting great articles and info all the time at least he backs up what he’s talking about ! Thanks for that 
    I believe it is often referred to as "trolling".
    An homage to the troll-in-chief 
    I’m not sure but I’d rather believe facts than someone’s stomachs..
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,591
    josevolution said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    josevolution said:
    I would like the posters who keep harping that the Muller investigations are duds to please present facts as to why they believe that ..Hf2 keeps putting great articles and info all the time at least he backs up what he’s talking about ! Thanks for that 
    I believe it is often referred to as "trolling".
    An homage to the troll-in-chief 
    I’m not sure but I’d rather believe facts than someone’s stomachs..
    But everyone knows that facts have a liberal bias
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,442
    CM189191 said:

    CM189191 said:

    Nothing will happen...
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,474
    tempo_n_groove said:
    CM189191 said:

    CM189191 said:

    Nothing will happen...
    lol yeah ok ..
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,442
    josevolution said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    CM189191 said:

    CM189191 said:

    Nothing will happen...
    lol yeah ok ..
    Nothing major is happening tomorrow...
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    SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,523
    edited March 2019
    sources....gut

    Trump told the Post in an interview. "They're making a mistake because I have a gut and my gut tells me more sometimes than anybody else's brain can ever tell me."

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    mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,404
    Smellyman said:
    sources....gut

    Trump told the Post in an interview. "They're making a mistake because I have a gut and my gut tells me more sometimes than anybody else's brain can ever tell me."

    He should really learn to believe in himself more. SAD!
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,304
    Less than 4 years for Manafort? What a joke. White collar crime pays.
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    oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,844
    dignin said:
    Less than 4 years for Manafort? What a joke. White collar crime pays.
    But he’s “humiliated”. Well, good. Though the word should be “ashamed”, but that suggests an acknowledgement of culpability. 
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,304
    oftenreading said:
    dignin said:
    Less than 4 years for Manafort? What a joke. White collar crime pays.
    But he’s “humiliated”. Well, good. Though the word should be “ashamed”, but that suggests an acknowledgement of culpability. 
    Ellis noted Manafort "lived an otherwise blameless life," and was a good friend and generous person to others


    I just don't get it.
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,304
    edited March 2019
    For some perspective.






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    SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,523
    sympathetic Trumpleton judge who expressed disgust with the Special Counsel and prosecutors and sympathy to Manafort
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,831
    dignin said:
    oftenreading said:
    dignin said:
    Less than 4 years for Manafort? What a joke. White collar crime pays.
    But he’s “humiliated”. Well, good. Though the word should be “ashamed”, but that suggests an acknowledgement of culpability. 
    Ellis noted Manafort "lived an otherwise blameless life," and was a good friend and generous person to others


    I just don't get it.
    What are the federal sentencing guidelines?
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,831
    Just saw it was 19 to 24. Definitely got odd very soft.  24 million in restitution will smart bit though.
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,474
    Ellis took it easy on him and it’s a shame this judge was erratic throughout the trial let’s hope the next judge will be different in the sentencing of him , total white collar sentencing a person of color or joe smoe would of gotten 30 fucking years ..
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,304
    mrussel1 said:
    Just saw it was 19 to 24. Definitely got odd very soft.  24 million in restitution will smart bit though.
    I heard 6 to 24 million. Betting it's on the lower end after this sentence.
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