Donald Trump

BS44325

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

oftenreading said:

But since you brought up the issue of GOP voters, it’s hard to ignore the statement in the article that 46% of republicans polled were in favour of Little, who is completely open about his anti-Semitic, Holocaust-denying, and yes, Nazi beliefs. 46%. So yes, maybe we can’t say that the majority of republican voters support Nazi policies, but 46% is a pretty sizeable minority. 

Sorry but the percentages just don’t match up with reality of where real anti-semitism comes from these days. The lesson from Auschwitz is that it comes from everywhere...one should always be on guard...it will never go away. In practicality however today’s Jews know that it is far more likely to come from the left then the right. Sure Nazi’s exist on the right but jews have far less to fear from them coming to power compared to a toxic brew of leftist socialist in bed with the Islamists. Around the world today Jews, LGBTQ, christians etc. are under attack from Islamists who get far more support from the political left then the right. It is Islamists in europe and elswhere (with leftist support) that are the worst perpetrators and Jews know that this will come to America too in time. It is the GOP in America who are looking out for this while the Democratic party is moving slowly in the opposite direction. Lastly with specific reference to the Holocaust jews know that it is Iran who is openly declaring to start the next one. They were absolutely against the Iran deal as they believe it bought this regime time and used the money for nefarious purposes. While American jews do mot support Trump they support him on leaving the Iran deal. It today’s GOP that understands Never Again while the democrats want to help sustain the iranian Mullahs who openly call for destruction of the jewish people. So throw your percentages around all you want but the real/effective/dangerous anti-semitism is in bed with the Democratic party right now and not with these one off lunatics who manage to get themselves nominated in heavily democratic districts.

So you’re take away from visiting Auschwitz is to become more bigoted toward Muslims and ramp up your fear related beliefs surrounding liberals? 

Uhh...no. I didn’t even use the word “muslim”. Nor did I use the word “liberal”. 

Oh. My bad. You used the terms “leftist” and “Islamists”. 

It says a lot that your only retort is my word choice. The meaning remains 

Wrong. The “terms” define the “meaning”. You needed to paint me as someone that is targeting muslims and liberals. A tactic like this is very common on here. It’s very common in the media. It’s very common on the left. This is just another textbook example and I thank you for that. Your “retort” requied to change my “terms” in order to distort my “meaning”. It is you that has no response to a very rational argument which is that while hate for jews will always exist on all sides the next Holocaust is far more likely to come from an Islamist enabled left vs a Nazi enabled right. 

“Don’t tell me that words don’t matter!”

Barak Obama

oftenreading

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

oftenreading said:

But since you brought up the issue of GOP voters, it’s hard to ignore the statement in the article that 46% of republicans polled were in favour of Little, who is completely open about his anti-Semitic, Holocaust-denying, and yes, Nazi beliefs. 46%. So yes, maybe we can’t say that the majority of republican voters support Nazi policies, but 46% is a pretty sizeable minority. 

Sorry but the percentages just don’t match up with reality of where real anti-semitism comes from these days. The lesson from Auschwitz is that it comes from everywhere...one should always be on guard...it will never go away. In practicality however today’s Jews know that it is far more likely to come from the left then the right. Sure Nazi’s exist on the right but jews have far less to fear from them coming to power compared to a toxic brew of leftist socialist in bed with the Islamists. Around the world today Jews, LGBTQ, christians etc. are under attack from Islamists who get far more support from the political left then the right. It is Islamists in europe and elswhere (with leftist support) that are the worst perpetrators and Jews know that this will come to America too in time. It is the GOP in America who are looking out for this while the Democratic party is moving slowly in the opposite direction. Lastly with specific reference to the Holocaust jews know that it is Iran who is openly declaring to start the next one. They were absolutely against the Iran deal as they believe it bought this regime time and used the money for nefarious purposes. While American jews do mot support Trump they support him on leaving the Iran deal. It today’s GOP that understands Never Again while the democrats want to help sustain the iranian Mullahs who openly call for destruction of the jewish people. So throw your percentages around all you want but the real/effective/dangerous anti-semitism is in bed with the Democratic party right now and not with these one off lunatics who manage to get themselves nominated in heavily democratic districts.

So you’re take away from visiting Auschwitz is to become more bigoted toward Muslims and ramp up your fear related beliefs surrounding liberals? 

Uhh...no. I didn’t even use the word “muslim”. Nor did I use the word “liberal”. 

Oh. My bad. You used the terms “leftist” and “Islamists”. 

It says a lot that your only retort is my word choice. The meaning remains 

Wrong. The “terms” define the “meaning”. You needed to paint me as someone that is targeting muslims and liberals. A tactic like this is very common on here. It’s very common in the media. It’s very common on the left. This is just another textbook example and I thank you for that. Your “retort” requied to change my “terms” in order to distort my “meaning”. It is you that has no response to a very rational argument which is that while hate for jews will always exist on all sides the next Holocaust is far more likely to come from an Islamist enabled left vs a Nazi enabled right. 

“Don’t tell me that words don’t matter!”

Barak Obama

So, what’s your definition of leftist? When I look it up, it’s defintions include “liberal” 

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.collinsdictionary.com/us/amp/english/leftist

If you want your words to matter, maybe you should define them. 
 

BS44325

Spiritual_Chaos said:

BS44325 said:

The Juggler said:

cincybearcat said:

tbergs said:

Besides being a conservative, what's wrong with the nominee? He's not an extreme view on the court. My issue is with the process and how Garland was blocked. Changing the rules was wrong and has jaded the court moving forward. 

Spot on. 

This is is so true. Obama should have had his nominee for sure and trump should only be now appointing his first. And this guy is certainly qualified. Not sure I’m going to like how he rules all the time, but he’s no Scott Pruitt

This sums up how I feel about it. No matter what happens, I just cannot wrap my head around how the republicans stole a supreme court seat. That didn't generate the outrage it should have.

And, like I said yesterday, I also have a problem with a president being allowed to pick one while under an fbi investigation.

Blame Obama. He gutted his own party leaving a republican Senate. A republican senate that will become even more republican in November.

Where do you get your news/information ?

The balance of power in the senate doesn’t require a special source. We know what the numbers are and we know why they exist. The democrats gamble there supermajority on Obamacare etc. and blew it...big time. The country didn’t want it and the dems have been losing up and down the ballot ever since. Sure they didn’t mind re-electing Obama but they wanted to check him hard ever since. Blame Obama, blame Pelosi, and blame Harry Reid. Numbers determine votes. They are responsible for the numbers.

BS44325

oftenreading said:

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

oftenreading said:

But since you brought up the issue of GOP voters, it’s hard to ignore the statement in the article that 46% of republicans polled were in favour of Little, who is completely open about his anti-Semitic, Holocaust-denying, and yes, Nazi beliefs. 46%. So yes, maybe we can’t say that the majority of republican voters support Nazi policies, but 46% is a pretty sizeable minority. 

Sorry but the percentages just don’t match up with reality of where real anti-semitism comes from these days. The lesson from Auschwitz is that it comes from everywhere...one should always be on guard...it will never go away. In practicality however today’s Jews know that it is far more likely to come from the left then the right. Sure Nazi’s exist on the right but jews have far less to fear from them coming to power compared to a toxic brew of leftist socialist in bed with the Islamists. Around the world today Jews, LGBTQ, christians etc. are under attack from Islamists who get far more support from the political left then the right. It is Islamists in europe and elswhere (with leftist support) that are the worst perpetrators and Jews know that this will come to America too in time. It is the GOP in America who are looking out for this while the Democratic party is moving slowly in the opposite direction. Lastly with specific reference to the Holocaust jews know that it is Iran who is openly declaring to start the next one. They were absolutely against the Iran deal as they believe it bought this regime time and used the money for nefarious purposes. While American jews do mot support Trump they support him on leaving the Iran deal. It today’s GOP that understands Never Again while the democrats want to help sustain the iranian Mullahs who openly call for destruction of the jewish people. So throw your percentages around all you want but the real/effective/dangerous anti-semitism is in bed with the Democratic party right now and not with these one off lunatics who manage to get themselves nominated in heavily democratic districts.

So you’re take away from visiting Auschwitz is to become more bigoted toward Muslims and ramp up your fear related beliefs surrounding liberals? 

Uhh...no. I didn’t even use the word “muslim”. Nor did I use the word “liberal”. 

Oh. My bad. You used the terms “leftist” and “Islamists”. 

It says a lot that your only retort is my word choice. The meaning remains 

Wrong. The “terms” define the “meaning”. You needed to paint me as someone that is targeting muslims and liberals. A tactic like this is very common on here. It’s very common in the media. It’s very common on the left. This is just another textbook example and I thank you for that. Your “retort” requied to change my “terms” in order to distort my “meaning”. It is you that has no response to a very rational argument which is that while hate for jews will always exist on all sides the next Holocaust is far more likely to come from an Islamist enabled left vs a Nazi enabled right. 

“Don’t tell me that words don’t matter!”

Barak Obama

So, what’s your definition of leftist? When I look it up, it’s defintions include “liberal” 

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.collinsdictionary.com/us/amp/english/leftist

If you want your words to matter, maybe you should define them. 
 

It might include “liberal” but there are no classical liberals left in the democratic party. They are the party of Ocasio-Cortez and the Democratic Socialists.

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/396412-new-dem-star-to-rattle-dc-establishment

But don’t take my word for it. Take NY Democratic Congressman Dov Hikind’s word for it...

https://ijr.com/2018/07/1108169-dov-hikind-promises-support-gop/

The Democratic Party is losing it’s sanity

#walkaway

Go Beavers

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

oftenreading said:

But since you brought up the issue of GOP voters, it’s hard to ignore the statement in the article that 46% of republicans polled were in favour of Little, who is completely open about his anti-Semitic, Holocaust-denying, and yes, Nazi beliefs. 46%. So yes, maybe we can’t say that the majority of republican voters support Nazi policies, but 46% is a pretty sizeable minority. 

Sorry but the percentages just don’t match up with reality of where real anti-semitism comes from these days. The lesson from Auschwitz is that it comes from everywhere...one should always be on guard...it will never go away. In practicality however today’s Jews know that it is far more likely to come from the left then the right. Sure Nazi’s exist on the right but jews have far less to fear from them coming to power compared to a toxic brew of leftist socialist in bed with the Islamists. Around the world today Jews, LGBTQ, christians etc. are under attack from Islamists who get far more support from the political left then the right. It is Islamists in europe and elswhere (with leftist support) that are the worst perpetrators and Jews know that this will come to America too in time. It is the GOP in America who are looking out for this while the Democratic party is moving slowly in the opposite direction. Lastly with specific reference to the Holocaust jews know that it is Iran who is openly declaring to start the next one. They were absolutely against the Iran deal as they believe it bought this regime time and used the money for nefarious purposes. While American jews do mot support Trump they support him on leaving the Iran deal. It today’s GOP that understands Never Again while the democrats want to help sustain the iranian Mullahs who openly call for destruction of the jewish people. So throw your percentages around all you want but the real/effective/dangerous anti-semitism is in bed with the Democratic party right now and not with these one off lunatics who manage to get themselves nominated in heavily democratic districts.

So you’re take away from visiting Auschwitz is to become more bigoted toward Muslims and ramp up your fear related beliefs surrounding liberals? 

Uhh...no. I didn’t even use the word “muslim”. Nor did I use the word “liberal”. 

Oh. My bad. You used the terms “leftist” and “Islamists”. 

It says a lot that your only retort is my word choice. The meaning remains 

Wrong. The “terms” define the “meaning”. You needed to paint me as someone that is targeting muslims and liberals. A tactic like this is very common on here. It’s very common in the media. It’s very common on the left. This is just another textbook example and I thank you for that. Your “retort” requied to change my “terms” in order to distort my “meaning”. It is you that has no response to a very rational argument which is that while hate for jews will always exist on all sides the next Holocaust is far more likely to come from an Islamist enabled left vs a Nazi enabled right. 

“Don’t tell me that words don’t matter!”

Barak Obama

You’re free to clarify your “meaning” of “leftist” and “islamist” then and further your point. My response to your reaction to your visit is that rather than gaining enlightenment on the psychology behind what made the Nazi regime occur, you perpetuate the actual dynamic that was at play in the 30s woth fear based statements about people you have labelled leftists and Islamist.   

Halifax2TheMax

BS44325 said:

oftenreading said:

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

oftenreading said:

But since you brought up the issue of GOP voters, it’s hard to ignore the statement in the article that 46% of republicans polled were in favour of Little, who is completely open about his anti-Semitic, Holocaust-denying, and yes, Nazi beliefs. 46%. So yes, maybe we can’t say that the majority of republican voters support Nazi policies, but 46% is a pretty sizeable minority. 

Sorry but the percentages just don’t match up with reality of where real anti-semitism comes from these days. The lesson from Auschwitz is that it comes from everywhere...one should always be on guard...it will never go away. In practicality however today’s Jews know that it is far more likely to come from the left then the right. Sure Nazi’s exist on the right but jews have far less to fear from them coming to power compared to a toxic brew of leftist socialist in bed with the Islamists. Around the world today Jews, LGBTQ, christians etc. are under attack from Islamists who get far more support from the political left then the right. It is Islamists in europe and elswhere (with leftist support) that are the worst perpetrators and Jews know that this will come to America too in time. It is the GOP in America who are looking out for this while the Democratic party is moving slowly in the opposite direction. Lastly with specific reference to the Holocaust jews know that it is Iran who is openly declaring to start the next one. They were absolutely against the Iran deal as they believe it bought this regime time and used the money for nefarious purposes. While American jews do mot support Trump they support him on leaving the Iran deal. It today’s GOP that understands Never Again while the democrats want to help sustain the iranian Mullahs who openly call for destruction of the jewish people. So throw your percentages around all you want but the real/effective/dangerous anti-semitism is in bed with the Democratic party right now and not with these one off lunatics who manage to get themselves nominated in heavily democratic districts.

So you’re take away from visiting Auschwitz is to become more bigoted toward Muslims and ramp up your fear related beliefs surrounding liberals? 

Uhh...no. I didn’t even use the word “muslim”. Nor did I use the word “liberal”. 

Oh. My bad. You used the terms “leftist” and “Islamists”. 

It says a lot that your only retort is my word choice. The meaning remains 

Wrong. The “terms” define the “meaning”. You needed to paint me as someone that is targeting muslims and liberals. A tactic like this is very common on here. It’s very common in the media. It’s very common on the left. This is just another textbook example and I thank you for that. Your “retort” requied to change my “terms” in order to distort my “meaning”. It is you that has no response to a very rational argument which is that while hate for jews will always exist on all sides the next Holocaust is far more likely to come from an Islamist enabled left vs a Nazi enabled right. 

“Don’t tell me that words don’t matter!”

Barak Obama

So, what’s your definition of leftist? When I look it up, it’s defintions include “liberal” 

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.collinsdictionary.com/us/amp/english/leftist

If you want your words to matter, maybe you should define them. 
 

It might include “liberal” but there are no classical liberals left in the democratic party. They are the party of Ocasio-Cortez and the Democratic Socialists.

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/396412-new-dem-star-to-rattle-dc-establishment

But don’t take my word for it. Take NY Democratic Congressman Dov Hikind’s word for it...

https://ijr.com/2018/07/1108169-dov-hikind-promises-support-gop/

The Democratic Party is losing it’s sanity

#walkaway

Well then, there’s still hope for the Dems. Can’t say the same for the repubes. They own Team Trump Treason and all he has wrought. And that includes comparisons to Nazis.
 

my2hands

Spiritual_Chaos said:

BS44325 said:

The Juggler said:

cincybearcat said:

tbergs said:

Besides being a conservative, what's wrong with the nominee? He's not an extreme view on the court. My issue is with the process and how Garland was blocked. Changing the rules was wrong and has jaded the court moving forward. 

Spot on. 

This is is so true. Obama should have had his nominee for sure and trump should only be now appointing his first. And this guy is certainly qualified. Not sure I’m going to like how he rules all the time, but he’s no Scott Pruitt

This sums up how I feel about it. No matter what happens, I just cannot wrap my head around how the republicans stole a supreme court seat. That didn't generate the outrage it should have.

And, like I said yesterday, I also have a problem with a president being allowed to pick one while under an fbi investigation.

Blame Obama. He gutted his own party leaving a republican Senate. A republican senate that will become even more republican in November.

Where do you get your news/information ?

Blogs

my2hands

BS... leftist socialists are in bed with Islamists?

Lol, where do you come up with this garbage?

Halifax2TheMax

Meanwhile, back in reality Team Mueller continues his investigation of Team Trump Treason with a trial set to begin and guilty pleas and cooperative witnesses secured.

Follow the money, from Russia with Love and a PTape, all the way to impeachment.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Halifax2TheMax said:

Meanwhile, back in reality Team Mueller continues his investigation of Team Trump Treason with a trial set to begin and guilty pleas and cooperative witnesses secured.

Follow the money, from Russia with Love and a PTape, all the way to impeachment.

I want to be drinking with you if this day comes to fruition. There won't be anyone filled with more joy. I'm sure of it.

BS44325

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

oftenreading said:

But since you brought up the issue of GOP voters, it’s hard to ignore the statement in the article that 46% of republicans polled were in favour of Little, who is completely open about his anti-Semitic, Holocaust-denying, and yes, Nazi beliefs. 46%. So yes, maybe we can’t say that the majority of republican voters support Nazi policies, but 46% is a pretty sizeable minority. 

Sorry but the percentages just don’t match up with reality of where real anti-semitism comes from these days. The lesson from Auschwitz is that it comes from everywhere...one should always be on guard...it will never go away. In practicality however today’s Jews know that it is far more likely to come from the left then the right. Sure Nazi’s exist on the right but jews have far less to fear from them coming to power compared to a toxic brew of leftist socialist in bed with the Islamists. Around the world today Jews, LGBTQ, christians etc. are under attack from Islamists who get far more support from the political left then the right. It is Islamists in europe and elswhere (with leftist support) that are the worst perpetrators and Jews know that this will come to America too in time. It is the GOP in America who are looking out for this while the Democratic party is moving slowly in the opposite direction. Lastly with specific reference to the Holocaust jews know that it is Iran who is openly declaring to start the next one. They were absolutely against the Iran deal as they believe it bought this regime time and used the money for nefarious purposes. While American jews do mot support Trump they support him on leaving the Iran deal. It today’s GOP that understands Never Again while the democrats want to help sustain the iranian Mullahs who openly call for destruction of the jewish people. So throw your percentages around all you want but the real/effective/dangerous anti-semitism is in bed with the Democratic party right now and not with these one off lunatics who manage to get themselves nominated in heavily democratic districts.

So you’re take away from visiting Auschwitz is to become more bigoted toward Muslims and ramp up your fear related beliefs surrounding liberals? 

Uhh...no. I didn’t even use the word “muslim”. Nor did I use the word “liberal”. 

Oh. My bad. You used the terms “leftist” and “Islamists”. 

It says a lot that your only retort is my word choice. The meaning remains 

Wrong. The “terms” define the “meaning”. You needed to paint me as someone that is targeting muslims and liberals. A tactic like this is very common on here. It’s very common in the media. It’s very common on the left. This is just another textbook example and I thank you for that. Your “retort” requied to change my “terms” in order to distort my “meaning”. It is you that has no response to a very rational argument which is that while hate for jews will always exist on all sides the next Holocaust is far more likely to come from an Islamist enabled left vs a Nazi enabled right. 

“Don’t tell me that words don’t matter!”

Barak Obama

You’re free to clarify your “meaning” of “leftist” and “islamist” then and further your point. My response to your reaction to your visit is that rather than gaining enlightenment on the psychology behind what made the Nazi regime occur, you perpetuate the actual dynamic that was a play in the 30s woth fear based statements about people you have labelled leftists and Islamist.   

I am well enlightened about the psychology but it would be a massive mistake to assume that the next holocaust can only occur in a similar matter. It can occur anywhere that anti-semitism exists. The lesson is how very normal and educated people easily perpetuated such an atrocity. The early anti-semitic rhetoric was the sign that was ignored. That type of anti-semitism exists today. We know who is teaching in their schools and where. We know which houses of worship preach it to their congregations. We know which governments endorse it. To ignore this is to fail to learn the lesson. You have your head in the sand and disgustingly point at today’s GOP when the finger should be pointed elswhere. It is not biggoted to call this type of hate out and you are not a good person if you choose to deflect or label those who call it out. At some point you become an enabler. At some point you become complicit.

This is the lesson. Get enlightened.

BS44325

my2hands said:

BS... leftist socialists are in bed with Islamists?

Lol, where do you come up with this garbage?

Take a tour of any college campus

Halifax2TheMax

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

oftenreading said:

But since you brought up the issue of GOP voters, it’s hard to ignore the statement in the article that 46% of republicans polled were in favour of Little, who is completely open about his anti-Semitic, Holocaust-denying, and yes, Nazi beliefs. 46%. So yes, maybe we can’t say that the majority of republican voters support Nazi policies, but 46% is a pretty sizeable minority. 

Sorry but the percentages just don’t match up with reality of where real anti-semitism comes from these days. The lesson from Auschwitz is that it comes from everywhere...one should always be on guard...it will never go away. In practicality however today’s Jews know that it is far more likely to come from the left then the right. Sure Nazi’s exist on the right but jews have far less to fear from them coming to power compared to a toxic brew of leftist socialist in bed with the Islamists. Around the world today Jews, LGBTQ, christians etc. are under attack from Islamists who get far more support from the political left then the right. It is Islamists in europe and elswhere (with leftist support) that are the worst perpetrators and Jews know that this will come to America too in time. It is the GOP in America who are looking out for this while the Democratic party is moving slowly in the opposite direction. Lastly with specific reference to the Holocaust jews know that it is Iran who is openly declaring to start the next one. They were absolutely against the Iran deal as they believe it bought this regime time and used the money for nefarious purposes. While American jews do mot support Trump they support him on leaving the Iran deal. It today’s GOP that understands Never Again while the democrats want to help sustain the iranian Mullahs who openly call for destruction of the jewish people. So throw your percentages around all you want but the real/effective/dangerous anti-semitism is in bed with the Democratic party right now and not with these one off lunatics who manage to get themselves nominated in heavily democratic districts.

So you’re take away from visiting Auschwitz is to become more bigoted toward Muslims and ramp up your fear related beliefs surrounding liberals? 

Uhh...no. I didn’t even use the word “muslim”. Nor did I use the word “liberal”. 

Oh. My bad. You used the terms “leftist” and “Islamists”. 

It says a lot that your only retort is my word choice. The meaning remains 

Wrong. The “terms” define the “meaning”. You needed to paint me as someone that is targeting muslims and liberals. A tactic like this is very common on here. It’s very common in the media. It’s very common on the left. This is just another textbook example and I thank you for that. Your “retort” requied to change my “terms” in order to distort my “meaning”. It is you that has no response to a very rational argument which is that while hate for jews will always exist on all sides the next Holocaust is far more likely to come from an Islamist enabled left vs a Nazi enabled right. 

“Don’t tell me that words don’t matter!”

Barak Obama

You’re free to clarify your “meaning” of “leftist” and “islamist” then and further your point. My response to your reaction to your visit is that rather than gaining enlightenment on the psychology behind what made the Nazi regime occur, you perpetuate the actual dynamic that was a play in the 30s woth fear based statements about people you have labelled leftists and Islamist.   

I am well enlightened about the psychology but it would be a massive mistake to assume that the next holocaust can only occur in a similar matter. It can occur anywhere that anti-semitism exists. The lesson is how very normal and educated people easily perpetuated such an atrocity. The early anti-semitic rhetoric was the sign that was ignored. That type of anti-semitism exists today. We know who is teaching in their schools and where. We know which houses of worship preach it to their congregations. We know which governments endorse it. To ignore this is to fail to learn the lesson. You have your head in the sand and disgustingly point at today’s GOP when the finger should be pointed elswhere. It is not biggoted to call this type of hate out and you are not a good person if you choose to deflect or label those who call it out. At some point you become an enabler. At some point you become complicit.

This is the lesson. Get enlightened.

“There are good people on both sides.” “The Jews will not replace us.” Not good people. 
 Interesting that you only equate the holocaust with the destruction of Jews when there were Roma, gay and political victims as well. Why is that? More trivia for you, Professor?
 

my2hands

BS44325 said:

my2hands said:

BS... leftist socialists are in bed with Islamists?

Lol, where do you come up with this garbage?

Take a tour of any college campus

Bwahahahahahahaha

Dude, get the fuck out of here with this bullshit.

Why you so paranoid, bro? Side effect of the edibles?

Halifax2TheMax

Guess I forgot to pay for my beer in rubles at Waldbühne. Silly me.

https://www.boston.com/news/politics/2018/07/11/donald-trump-nato-summit-john-kerry
 

tbergs

I'm going to spin some Sex Pistols in honor of BS' resiliency to be the opposition at all costs. There must be some level of weird satisfaction you're getting out of all this. You're really entrenched.

BS44325

Halifax2TheMax said:

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

oftenreading said:

But since you brought up the issue of GOP voters, it’s hard to ignore the statement in the article that 46% of republicans polled were in favour of Little, who is completely open about his anti-Semitic, Holocaust-denying, and yes, Nazi beliefs. 46%. So yes, maybe we can’t say that the majority of republican voters support Nazi policies, but 46% is a pretty sizeable minority. 

Sorry but the percentages just don’t match up with reality of where real anti-semitism comes from these days. The lesson from Auschwitz is that it comes from everywhere...one should always be on guard...it will never go away. In practicality however today’s Jews know that it is far more likely to come from the left then the right. Sure Nazi’s exist on the right but jews have far less to fear from them coming to power compared to a toxic brew of leftist socialist in bed with the Islamists. Around the world today Jews, LGBTQ, christians etc. are under attack from Islamists who get far more support from the political left then the right. It is Islamists in europe and elswhere (with leftist support) that are the worst perpetrators and Jews know that this will come to America too in time. It is the GOP in America who are looking out for this while the Democratic party is moving slowly in the opposite direction. Lastly with specific reference to the Holocaust jews know that it is Iran who is openly declaring to start the next one. They were absolutely against the Iran deal as they believe it bought this regime time and used the money for nefarious purposes. While American jews do mot support Trump they support him on leaving the Iran deal. It today’s GOP that understands Never Again while the democrats want to help sustain the iranian Mullahs who openly call for destruction of the jewish people. So throw your percentages around all you want but the real/effective/dangerous anti-semitism is in bed with the Democratic party right now and not with these one off lunatics who manage to get themselves nominated in heavily democratic districts.

So you’re take away from visiting Auschwitz is to become more bigoted toward Muslims and ramp up your fear related beliefs surrounding liberals? 

Uhh...no. I didn’t even use the word “muslim”. Nor did I use the word “liberal”. 

Oh. My bad. You used the terms “leftist” and “Islamists”. 

It says a lot that your only retort is my word choice. The meaning remains 

Wrong. The “terms” define the “meaning”. You needed to paint me as someone that is targeting muslims and liberals. A tactic like this is very common on here. It’s very common in the media. It’s very common on the left. This is just another textbook example and I thank you for that. Your “retort” requied to change my “terms” in order to distort my “meaning”. It is you that has no response to a very rational argument which is that while hate for jews will always exist on all sides the next Holocaust is far more likely to come from an Islamist enabled left vs a Nazi enabled right. 

“Don’t tell me that words don’t matter!”

Barak Obama

You’re free to clarify your “meaning” of “leftist” and “islamist” then and further your point. My response to your reaction to your visit is that rather than gaining enlightenment on the psychology behind what made the Nazi regime occur, you perpetuate the actual dynamic that was a play in the 30s woth fear based statements about people you have labelled leftists and Islamist.   

I am well enlightened about the psychology but it would be a massive mistake to assume that the next holocaust can only occur in a similar matter. It can occur anywhere that anti-semitism exists. The lesson is how very normal and educated people easily perpetuated such an atrocity. The early anti-semitic rhetoric was the sign that was ignored. That type of anti-semitism exists today. We know who is teaching in their schools and where. We know which houses of worship preach it to their congregations. We know which governments endorse it. To ignore this is to fail to learn the lesson. You have your head in the sand and disgustingly point at today’s GOP when the finger should be pointed elswhere. It is not biggoted to call this type of hate out and you are not a good person if you choose to deflect or label those who call it out. At some point you become an enabler. At some point you become complicit.

This is the lesson. Get enlightened.

“There are good people on both sides.” “The Jews will not replace us.” Not good people. 
 Interesting that you only equate the holocaust with the destruction of Jews when there were Roma, gay and political victims as well. Why is that? More trivia for you, Professor?
 

I actually specifically mentioned LGBTQ above. Read back...if you can. I also mentioned that if you look who is murdering jews, LGBTQ, and christians right now it is quite obvious where the threat is likely to come from. Please read Halifax. I beg you. At least try.

BS44325

Halifax2TheMax said:

Guess I forgot to pay for my beer in rubles at Waldbühne. Silly me.

https://www.boston.com/news/politics/2018/07/11/donald-trump-nato-summit-john-kerry
 

Classic Halifax. Quick to post without even wondering what Kerry’s position was on the Russia-German pipeline only a few short years ago.

https://112.international/ukraine-top-news/kerry-ukraine-for-the-first-time-receives-more-gas-from-europe-than-from-russia-4580.html

Oh right. Kerry was against the pipeline before he was for it.

keep going halifax

Halifax2TheMax

BS44325 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

oftenreading said:

But since you brought up the issue of GOP voters, it’s hard to ignore the statement in the article that 46% of republicans polled were in favour of Little, who is completely open about his anti-Semitic, Holocaust-denying, and yes, Nazi beliefs. 46%. So yes, maybe we can’t say that the majority of republican voters support Nazi policies, but 46% is a pretty sizeable minority. 

Sorry but the percentages just don’t match up with reality of where real anti-semitism comes from these days. The lesson from Auschwitz is that it comes from everywhere...one should always be on guard...it will never go away. In practicality however today’s Jews know that it is far more likely to come from the left then the right. Sure Nazi’s exist on the right but jews have far less to fear from them coming to power compared to a toxic brew of leftist socialist in bed with the Islamists. Around the world today Jews, LGBTQ, christians etc. are under attack from Islamists who get far more support from the political left then the right. It is Islamists in europe and elswhere (with leftist support) that are the worst perpetrators and Jews know that this will come to America too in time. It is the GOP in America who are looking out for this while the Democratic party is moving slowly in the opposite direction. Lastly with specific reference to the Holocaust jews know that it is Iran who is openly declaring to start the next one. They were absolutely against the Iran deal as they believe it bought this regime time and used the money for nefarious purposes. While American jews do mot support Trump they support him on leaving the Iran deal. It today’s GOP that understands Never Again while the democrats want to help sustain the iranian Mullahs who openly call for destruction of the jewish people. So throw your percentages around all you want but the real/effective/dangerous anti-semitism is in bed with the Democratic party right now and not with these one off lunatics who manage to get themselves nominated in heavily democratic districts.

So you’re take away from visiting Auschwitz is to become more bigoted toward Muslims and ramp up your fear related beliefs surrounding liberals? 

Uhh...no. I didn’t even use the word “muslim”. Nor did I use the word “liberal”. 

Oh. My bad. You used the terms “leftist” and “Islamists”. 

It says a lot that your only retort is my word choice. The meaning remains 

Wrong. The “terms” define the “meaning”. You needed to paint me as someone that is targeting muslims and liberals. A tactic like this is very common on here. It’s very common in the media. It’s very common on the left. This is just another textbook example and I thank you for that. Your “retort” requied to change my “terms” in order to distort my “meaning”. It is you that has no response to a very rational argument which is that while hate for jews will always exist on all sides the next Holocaust is far more likely to come from an Islamist enabled left vs a Nazi enabled right. 

“Don’t tell me that words don’t matter!”

Barak Obama

You’re free to clarify your “meaning” of “leftist” and “islamist” then and further your point. My response to your reaction to your visit is that rather than gaining enlightenment on the psychology behind what made the Nazi regime occur, you perpetuate the actual dynamic that was a play in the 30s woth fear based statements about people you have labelled leftists and Islamist.   

I am well enlightened about the psychology but it would be a massive mistake to assume that the next holocaust can only occur in a similar matter. It can occur anywhere that anti-semitism exists. The lesson is how very normal and educated people easily perpetuated such an atrocity. The early anti-semitic rhetoric was the sign that was ignored. That type of anti-semitism exists today. We know who is teaching in their schools and where. We know which houses of worship preach it to their congregations. We know which governments endorse it. To ignore this is to fail to learn the lesson. You have your head in the sand and disgustingly point at today’s GOP when the finger should be pointed elswhere. It is not biggoted to call this type of hate out and you are not a good person if you choose to deflect or label those who call it out. At some point you become an enabler. At some point you become complicit.

This is the lesson. Get enlightened.

“There are good people on both sides.” “The Jews will not replace us.” Not good people. 
 Interesting that you only equate the holocaust with the destruction of Jews when there were Roma, gay and political victims as well. Why is that? More trivia for you, Professor?
 

I actually specifically mentioned LGBTQ above. Read back...if you can. I also mentioned that if you look who is murdering jews, LGBTQ, and christians right now it is quite obvious where the threat is likely to come from. Please read Halifax. I beg you. At least try.

“Quite obvious.” Yea, it’s from those that look the other way and refuse to acknowledge the threat that is Team Trump Treason and continue to believe “there were good people on both sides.” Not good people.
 
Are you referring to ISIS and Iran when you say, “right now?” Or is the Saudis who Israeli is now aligned with? Muslim Brotherhood or Hezbollah? Or every Muslim country?
 

BS44325

tbergs said:

I'm going to spin some Sex Pistols in honor of BS' resiliency to be the opposition at all costs. There must be some level of weird satisfaction you're getting out of all this. You're really entrenched.

I can’t get no...