***DONALD J TRUMP HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN IMPEACHED***

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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    The award to rush Limbaugh could be the absolute lowest point in this presidency. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mcgruff10 said:
    The award to rush Limbaugh could be the absolute lowest point in this presidency. 
    That, this and putting children in cages.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?469059-1/president-trump-statement-senate-acquittal
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  • OnWis97
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    mcgruff10 said:
    The award to rush Limbaugh could be the absolute lowest point in this presidency. 
    Who's next?  Richard Spencer?  George Zimmerman?  Brian Kilmeade.  Crap...it's probably him.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    mcgruff10 said:
    The award to rush Limbaugh could be the absolute lowest point in this presidency. 
    That, this and putting children in cages.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?469059-1/president-trump-statement-senate-acquittal
    Agreed.  
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  • "Many people were on the call." And not one of them were witnesses during Team Trump Treason's senate trial or allowed to testify before the house committees. Funny that.
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  • mcgruff10
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    @Halifax2TheMax you followed this impeachment closer than anyone I know; did the dems screw this up in any way?  Anything they could have done different?
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  • "99% of the FBI loves me." Mueller is the top scum. Wow. Just wow. That anyone respects Team Trump Treason or "loves" him?
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  • mace1229
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    mcgruff10 said:
    The award to rush Limbaugh could be the absolute lowest point in this presidency. 
    Yeah, I thought that was incredibly stupid.
  • mcgruff10 said:
    @Halifax2TheMax you followed this impeachment closer than anyone I know; did the dems screw this up in any way?  Anything they could have done different?
    mcgruff10 said:
    @Halifax2TheMax you followed this impeachment closer than anyone I know; did the dems screw this up in any way?  Anything they could have done different?
    IMHO, I think the House should have subpoenaed every direct and potential witness and requested a fast track ruling to the SCOTUS, if necessary. They also should have been willing to drag this through the summer campaign season because one way or the other, via court rulings on witnesses testifying, documents and FOIA requests being granted, the damning information would have come out. In addition, they should have included the strongest of the Team Mueller obstruction of justice allegations and made the argument that there's a pattern of "obstructing justice." Team Trump Treason didn't testify before Team Mueller, only answering written questions, stated he didn't recall, when it was convenient, multiple times and appeared to have mislead Team Mueller. Those threads should have been picked up by the House committees and investigated further and all of which should have been included in the articles of impeachment as a third/fourth/fifth charge. By not doing so, they allowed the repub senate to proceed with a cover up. Had the investigation and trial gone through the November election, like Nixon, the evidence would have been overwhelming and you "might" have seen 20 repubs flip. However, I think they've completely sold out their souls and have set a very dangerous and long lasting precedent. They'll rue the day.

    There are continuing SDNY investigations and I wrote to my congressional delegation requesting that they subpoena the witnesses and allow Americans the opportunity to learn the truth. They can continue to hold hearings, call witnesses, issue subpoenas and hope they get the dirt before November. The repubs sold out to a con man. Speaking of which, no shout out to Kelly Ann CONway today and I wonder how those awaiting pardons are feeling. Do you think Team Trump Treason even remembers who Manaforte is? Or Rodger Dodger Stoned? I think we'll be hearing from Les soon too. Could still be a hot, hot summer.
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  • mcgruff10
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    Halifax, awesome perspective, thank you.  You
    mentiimed the president not testifying, does he legally have to or does he get special privileges since he is president?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,039
    hats off to mitt. i believe what he said in his speech. his faith guided him and he applied those principles when he voted. he stated in so many words that he is concerned about his legacy and what history will say about him and this vote. that is a profile in courage and i applaud him. he knew he was going to get blowback. the good thing for him is that coming from utah he is safe in the next election. he will weather any blowback he gets. trump will put him on blast and then go back to tweeting that he is the victim.

    i think he could have been a decent president compared to w and trump. his health care bill was the same thing as the ACA so he would not have worked to gut his own bill. had he not run away from that in the campaign he maybe could have won the presidency. 
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  • mcgruff10 said:
    Halifax, awesome perspective, thank you.  You
    mentiimed the president not testifying, does he legally have to or does he get special privileges since he is president?
    They could have compelled him to give an in person video tapped deposition a la Clinton but they would have fought it. I think Team Mueller should have gotten at least that as in person depositions with skilled litigators results in more thorough investigation. Body language, pauses, blinking eyes give hints as to which answers may be false and require follow up. The written answers were mostly written by his attorneys and where Team Trump Treason gave an answer or partial answer, it was obvious. CYA Barr kaboshed Team Mueller and is an accomplice to the cover up.
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  • The Juggler
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    I am so thankful that Mitt Romney still has a pulse and a spine. Gotta be honest, for a few days there after they voted down witnesses, it seemed like the worst case scenario would play out---a straight partisan vote other than maybe those three "vulnerable" idiotic democrats." Thank god they came to their senses. Had this been bipartisan IN FAVOR of acquittal, it would have been a political disaster. That was avoided and then Mitt showed true courage becoming the first senator in history to vote for removal of a president in his own party. That is a huge. I was beginning to lose hope.....but then the Mitter and Doug Jones, etc all stepped up.

    What minor bump Trump received in polling will surely drop quickly based on how he has acted, what he has said, and what he has done since. This fucking guy just says "no thanks" to any chance of taking the high road and any possibility of bringing in new supporters. 

    The actions of the president over the last week should and hopefully will come back to haunt the Susan Collins' of this world come November. 


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  • ikiT
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    mcgruff10 said:
    The award to rush Limbaugh could be the absolute lowest point in this presidency. 

    Yo it's up there.  The whole thing's been pretty shitty.  The indicator flag popped up EARLY.


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  • mickeyrat
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    and there it is.....

    Bolton denies his impeachment testimony would have changed the outcome
    https://news.yahoo.com/bolton-denies-impeachment-testimony-changed-033637270.html

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  • mickeyrat said:
    and there it is.....

    Bolton denies his impeachment testimony would have changed the outcome
    https://news.yahoo.com/bolton-denies-impeachment-testimony-changed-033637270.html

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    mickeyrat said:
    and there it is.....

    Bolton denies his impeachment testimony would have changed the outcome
    https://news.yahoo.com/bolton-denies-impeachment-testimony-changed-033637270.html

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